Ebbnflowr grows breeder cuts in an 8x8 😎

[ebbnflowr]

My 2 outdoor plants idk if they have even stretched yet I put them out there were about 4 feet tall they are 5.5 now...never free outdoor so idk wtf is going on. Like they in a holding pattern getting ready to go....
half of the 11x11 room I've been working on

 

[MysticEpipedon]

There's no stretch outdoors -- or if there is, it's too slight for me to notice. Stretch seems to come from the abruptness of the change in light period.

 

[ebbnflowr]

There's no stretch outdoors -- or if there is, it's too slight for me to notice. Stretch seems to come from the abruptness of the change in light period.

Oh shoot makes sense first time I've ever done anything outdoors thank you for responding!

 

[ebbnflowr]

Ok my room is done, need to take cuttings, throw another trellis up and I'm letting them rip. These are all cuts.

Dantes #6 and #8
Halle Berry
Blue Zushi
Sherb Cream Pie
Mac v2
Violet Fog
Watermelon Rush
Black Milk
Perm Marker x Lemon cherry Sherb (Mr stinky cut)

Think that's it this will be kinda my last hurrah for awhile. I'm expecting my second daughter beg of December and I won't have time for all this then. My side hustle/hobby has turned into a full time job that doesn't pay enough

 

[MiGrampa]

@ebbnflowr - Very interesting read on the "reds" effect on your plants. What is the timer schedule you've settled on when utilizing these reds to introduce the "Emmerson Effect"? @Pipecarver - Same question on timer schedule. What have you settled on as being best for your "Reds"?

I dug out 2 sets of this: https://growdaddyleds.com/products/...mmable-meanwell-driver?variant=32506879606839 from my garage earlier this week. I am about to start running the lights in my 4' x 8' that is lit with a pair of Grower's choice ROI-E720's. Both these lights also have the UV/IR bars but I'll be using the "Grow Daddy" lights on a separate timer to induce the Emmerson Effect. I'm curious as to what each of you feel worked best for your grows.

 

[ebbnflowr]

@ebbnflowr - Very interesting read on the "reds" effect on your plants. What is the timer schedule you've settled on when utilizing these reds to introduce the "Emmerson Effect"? @Pipecarver - Same question on timer schedule. What have you settled on as being best for your "Reds"?

I dug out 2 sets of this: https://growdaddyleds.com/products/...mmable-meanwell-driver?variant=32506879606839 from my garage earlier this week. I am about to start running the lights in my 4' x 8' that is lit with a pair of Grower's choice ROI-E720's. Both these lights also have the UV/IR bars but I'll be using the "Grow Daddy" lights on a separate timer to induce the Emmerson Effect. I'm curious as to what each of you feel worked best for your grows.

Main lights go off 8 min before whenever your putting your plants to sleep. So for example I go from 6am to 6pm...I'll cut channel 1 off at 552, and channel 2 is the 730nm, I'll turn that up to 100 from 552 to 600...throughout the day, channel 1 And 2 are at equal percantages. and that's it. I started doing it in my big room I'm about to flip and everything including petioles turned green within a few days ( a lot were purple and red which I read is common under led).... I'm no pro, but I got this info from a podcast I heard mobile j on and he was swearing by it. I know he's a facility grower but there is not reason it to try to implement it if you can. I think it def makes a difference. Give it a shot homie

 

[brettdawg]

Ok my room is done, need to take cuttings, throw another trellis up and I'm letting them rip. These are all cuts.

Dantes #6 and #8
Halle Berry
Blue Zushi
Sherb Cream Pie
Mac v2
Violet Fog
Watermelon Rush
Black Milk
Perm Marker x Lemon cherry Sherb (Mr stinky cut)

Think that's it this will be kinda my last hurrah for awhile. I'm expecting my second daughter beg of December and I won't have time for all this then. My side hustle/hobby has turned into a full time job that doesn't pay enoughView attachment 63628View attachment 63629View attachment 63630View attachment 63631

Sherbcream pie got eye on this.
Dantes inferno tiki cut fire.

 

[MiGrampa]

Main lights go off 8 min before whenever your putting your plants to sleep. So for example I go from 6am to 6pm...I'll cut channel 1 off at 552, and channel 2 is the 730nm, I'll turn that up to 100 from 552 to 600...throughout the day, channel 1 And 2 are at equal percantages. and that's it. I started doing it in my big room I'm about to flip and everything including petioles turned green within a few days ( a lot were purple and red which I read is common under led).... I'm no pro, but I got this info from a podcast I heard mobile j on and he was swearing by it. I know he's a facility grower but there is not reason it to try to implement it if you can. I think it def makes a difference. Give it a shot homie

I'm using the Grower's Choice master controller and it has a day break and sunset setting where in the morning, the main lights come on gradually over a half hour and then fade over a half hour at the end of the lights on cycle. I figured I would run the reds (8 minutes prior to that and then 8 minutes after lights out) but leave them on all day in between. I want to verify that I understood that correctly from your post and this is how you're running them.

 

[ebbnflowr]

I'm using the Grower's Choice master controller and it has a day break and sunset setting where in the morning, the main lights come on gradually over a half hour and then fade over a half hour at the end of the lights on cycle. I figured I would run the reds (8 minutes prior to that and then 8 minutes after lights out) but leave them on all day in between. I want to verify that I understood that correctly from your post and this is how you're running them.

I have a controller with all that stuff, I just haven't set it up yet. Id just have it start the sunset 8 min early, have the main ligjts go out, and program the far red to go 100% the last 8 min of the day....I don't add 8 min to the end of the day of just far red. I cut the main ligjts out 8 min early and just the red goes the last 8 min. Hope that helps.

 

[MiGrampa]

I have a controller with all that stuff, I just haven't set it up yet. Id just have it start the sunset 8 min early, have the main ligjts go out, and program the far red to go 100% the last 8 min of the day....I don't add 8 min to the end of the day of just far red. I cut the main ligjts out 8 min early and just the red goes the last 8 min. Hope that helps.

Yes, that helps.

Was there any particular reason you settled on "8 minutes" as opposed to 10 or 15 minutes? Anything you've read or experienced that helped you determine that "8 minutes" is the sweet spot?

I was going to post these questions in a brand new thread but when I did a topic search, your thread popped up. I figured my questions fit right in with what you're already doing.

 

[ebbnflowr]

Yes, that helps.

Was there any particular reason you settled on "8 minutes" as opposed to 10 or 15 minutes? Anything you've read or experienced that helped you determine that "8 minutes" is the sweet spot?

I was going to post these questions in a brand new thread but when I did a topic search, your thread popped up. I figured my questions fit right in with what you're already doing.

It's the time mobile j gave on the podcast where he was raving about how when they started doing this at their facility, everything started turning green and praying and that's what happened when I started also. It's the we the growers podcast on Spotify it came out like a month ago.

I can't remember if they gave a reason why they do 8.

 

[ebbnflowr]

Sherbcream pie got eye on this.
Dantes inferno tiki cut fire.

Hell yeah bro we will see first time flowering that cut ! Or Dantes for that matter

 

[ebbnflowr]

Day 41

 

[Pipecarver]

@ebbnflowr - Very interesting read on the "reds" effect on your plants. What is the timer schedule you've settled on when utilizing these reds to introduce the "Emmerson Effect"? @Pipecarver - Same question on timer schedule. What have you settled on as being best for your "Reds"?

I dug out 2 sets of this: https://growdaddyleds.com/products/...mmable-meanwell-driver?variant=32506879606839 from my garage earlier this week. I am about to start running the lights in my 4' x 8' that is lit with a pair of Grower's choice ROI-E720's. Both these lights also have the UV/IR bars but I'll be using the "Grow Daddy" lights on a separate timer to induce the Emmerson Effect. I'm curious as to what each of you feel worked best for your grows.

I run mine for 15 min at lights out. I started flowering at 12/12 - 1 week later I went 12.5/11.5 now I'm at 13/11. The stretch is increased and the size of my leaves increased . and the overall look of the plants is better but that stretch grows me out of space.

 

[ebbnflowr]

I run mine for 15 min at lights out. I started flowering at 12/12 - 1 week later I went 12.5/11.5 now I'm at 13/11. The stretch is increased and the size of my leaves increased . and the overall look of the plants is better but that stretch grows me out of space.

I've found that if you can get some 450nm on them during the first 3 weeks, it really helps control the stretch.

 

[ebbnflowr]

Day 43

 

[Observer]

Y

Yes exactly but I use coco....

It's not too bad! Just gotta lower the res pH and add some water once a day and it's good to go! Don't need to water but once every other day during stretch then once day as they are swelling. I know hydroton is used a lot in these but I like the added benefit of being able to amend the coco. View attachment 42993
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God damn such a nice canopy


I suck

 

[Observer]

Ok my room is done, need to take cuttings, throw another trellis up and I'm letting them rip. These are all cuts.

Dantes #6 and #8
Halle Berry
Blue Zushi
Sherb Cream Pie
Mac v2
Violet Fog
Watermelon Rush
Black Milk
Perm Marker x Lemon cherry Sherb (Mr stinky cut)

Think that's it this will be kinda my last hurrah for awhile. I'm expecting my second daughter beg of December and I won't have time for all this then. My side hustle/hobby has turned into a full time job that doesn't pay enoughView attachment 63628View attachment 63629View attachment 63630View attachment 63631

Jelly of the grow space


Just don't have room like that ATM.

 

[ebbnflowr]

Jelly of the grow space


Just don't have room like that ATM.

God damn such a nice canopy


I suck

Thank you man yeah cleared out my storage room and rented a storage unit for all that shit and went crazy over the past year. Started growing last March and it's become an obsession. Still haven't had a run I'm 100% happy with.

 

[steamroller]

Thank you man yeah cleared out my storage room and rented a storage unit for all that shit and went crazy over the past year. Started growing last March and it's become an obsession. Still haven't had a run I'm 100% happy with.

And that is what drives so many of us.
I have NO complaints but you know, just a little better maybe.

 

[ebbnflowr]

And that is what drives so many of us.
I have NO complaints but you know, just a little better maybe.

No doubt brother

 

[ebbnflowr]

Just got back from a little vacation. Things don't seem too worst for wear. Day 47 here and these are a couple phenos of lemon fire Runtz from relentless which Is lemon fire OG x Runtz...all 5 look incredible and I'm gonna have to keep all of them till the smoke test.

Number 2


#5

 

[ebbnflowr]

#4 structure on point literally haha

 

[ebbnflowr]

Lemon Fire Runtz #2 day 49...gonna start cake or tps signal tomorrow....not sure which one yet. I've used signal before and it's dope kinda want to give cake a shot. This is gonna be the one I end up keeping probably. Unless one of the other 4 have some crazy terps.

 

[ebbnflowr]

Finally got everything good to go in my flower room.... Took me about 2 months maybe longer of doing shit to this room to get to this point.

Day 1F... Dis all hemp btw lots of different hemp cuts.

 

[brettdawg]

Whats ur training methods in veg.
Suppose dependa on plant count i see lot of ppl now doing 9-12 light and no topping

 

[ebbnflowr]

Whats ur training methods in veg.
Suppose dependa on plant count i see lot of ppl now doing 9-12 light and no topping

I've seen that as well! Really just depends on the plant and where I'm at... But when they are young I try to just bend them over with a clip. I will top if I want other plants to catch up to even out a canopy...And I usually take clones from the top, wait a few days then flip. But 12 2 gallons in a 4x4 fit easily with topping. If you didn't I imagine you could fit 16.

When you too top late you do end up with some uneven branches that you eventually have to chop. And you get those huge main colas when you don't top obviously so I understand the appeal. If plant count isn't an issue, I think that's prob the way. But if your limited, you gotta fill out your canopy somehow. Really depends on what your trying to accomplish. You will prob yield more topping, but you will get bigger bud maybe if you don't? I'm just theorizing.

Id say the no topping or training is for like facilities, I feel like you have to train in a smaller home grow.

 

[brettdawg]

Yh agree. Big facility can put more plant numbers in there .
I do that with the tops aswell use them as clones. .

 

[ebbnflowr]

Here the end of day 1 and Emerson effect in action...no purple or red stems or petioles...all green. I guarantee they will all be praying hard in the morning. Only way I can upload videos no matter the size or file type is if I post on IG, then download, then upload here. Idk what I'm doing wrong lol I've tried every file type and size it always says video to large unless I do it this way. All good tho not a big deal haha.
View attachment VID_23290112_073346_354.mp4

 

[TomH]

Man, I’m using stone tools and still hanging from trees compared to some of you guys and girls!

I have a thermometer and a TSD meter.