Grump clones the Kitchen Sink

Never take a cutting shorter than inches.

no such rule, not about height, more about quantity of nodes. i like to have three full nodes exposed and a fourth starting, not counting what is below the collar/plug.

What kind of time frame am I looking at here?

depends on how you clone, i assume you're going in plugs and using your seed started rig right? about ten days..

aero is faster and can see smaller root quicker so as soon as five days till root.

Take the cuttings at a minimum of inches and then how long before I should expect to see some rooting?

i've taken every kind and size of cutting there is over the years and never found a consistent one that wouldn't root, even hard stem will root with the right conditions.

and yes a two or three node cutting will survive. you just have a better chance at over four.

a cutting from a mature plant will also have better success than one from a teenager.

and i like to have a node below the collar/plug, right at the spot i want roots to develop from.
 
It is nodes to me also.
I like to take the first top to clone when I top.
After that I take branches with at least 4 nodes.
1 to bury and 3 to the light.
 
Awesome dudes. That's a load of good info there. Thanks @Stoneyluv and @steam

I'm seeing the third node showing up so I've got a few more days, at least. They really greened up with the shot of grow nutes. I'll take 6 in total, hoping at least 4 root.

Like you said... I'll be using Rapid Rooter plugs and CloneX. I've read about putting a dab on the hole of the plug before stabbing in the clone. Do you do more than just snip the first node? Like do you strip any of the outer layers off like grafting?
 
Last clones I did not remove any of the leaves that were to the light.
Had no issues at all.
I dipped my clones base in BigFoot mycorrhizae.
 
Like you said... I'll be using Rapid Rooter plugs and CloneX. I've read about putting a dab on the hole of the plug before stabbing in the clone. Do you do more than just snip the first node? Like do you strip any of the outer layers off like grafting?

for me cloning is as much of an art as is it a science.. so i have a ritual sort of with using rooter plugs..

i start by shaking up the gel and opening the bottle. i know everybody says to pour it out and not use from the bottle but fuck that, i've dipped the bottles every time for years, don't listen to them, they just want you to buy more because one small bottle is enough for years and they want you to use it up...

then i snip all the cuttings, usually one or two nodes longer than i want and set them all in a pile next to the bottle. then one by one i take a cutting and trim the bottom at a 45° angle and cut off that bottom node or two to expose the flesh of the stem, cut clean! do not cut half assed and then pull a string of meat off when cuttings! clean scissors.. blah blah blah.. more BS!! same crudy nasty snips i always use! some like a razor blade, both good IMO..

once trimmed to satisfaction i set the cutting in the gel bottle, like a clock formation like as if you were cooking scallops, so you know which one was first in.. once all the cuttings are in the gel i let them soak while i concentrate on prepping the rooter plugs..

I ALWAYS pre poke the hole and never stab the cutting in... you'll end up kinking one!!! pre pole a thin hole smaller diameter than the stem, fat stem/fat hole.. skinny stem/skinny hole.. you already have the cuttings prepped you know how many of what to poke. and pre moisten the cube.. i like to squeeze them in the opening of a small gatorade bottle and let the water go in and out like a sponge to ensure full saturation of fresh water.

last i pull the cutting from the gel leaving a glob on the stem and pause over the hole in the rooter and lit a drop or two of gel fall right in and then gently place the cutting in the rooter until you feel it "seat" at the bottom... no stabbing!!!!! hahaha

and thats it, thats my method over and over... put the cap back on the bottle and i gather up all the rooters with cuttings inside sideways, carry them over to the grow cabinet and set them in place with a label... done!

i still keep everything in a bucket to this day!!

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and heres what i meant about the gatorade bottle.. you can put in GW or rapid start or enzymes and then easily saturate the rooter with it. turn the bottle over and give it a slight squeeze and ready for action!

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Alright, somebody with some cloning experience fill in the blank here...

Never take a cutting shorter than inches.

I only got another day or two before the tent is opened up and ready for the next grow. Couple more days on the dry, couple days of running bleach through the system, then it's ready when the clones are.

What kind of time frame am I looking at here? Take the cuttings at a minimum of inches and then how long before I should expect to see some rooting?

@GoodShit97 @Bandit420 @moe.red @Zen_seeker @steamroller @Stoneyluv @Observer

I'm sure I've missed some experienced cloners...
If all is perfect I see roots in 7-14 days. Usually it’s 14-21 days I see roots.

I take my cuts and dip them in the rooting gel and sometimes add some powder too. But honestly if the environment and lighting is good they root on their own in just a coffee can of tap water.

As an experiment last year I grew a clone in a shot glass. With just tap water and rooting gel. Still took 14-21 days iirc.

Size of my clone cut is usually 4”-6” and I put it into water right away until ready to use.
 
Awesome dudes. That's a load of good info there. Thanks @Stoneyluv and @steam

I'm seeing the third node showing up so I've got a few more days, at least. They really greened up with the shot of grow nutes. I'll take 6 in total, hoping at least 4 root.

Like you said... I'll be using Rapid Rooter plugs and CloneX. I've read about putting a dab on the hole of the plug before stabbing in the clone. Do you do more than just snip the first node? Like do you strip any of the outer layers off like grafting?
I scrape one side before dipping into the gel. (I also just dip into the bottle.)

If a node needs to be buried I strip it clean then dip. Roots have come out of the nodes in the past.
 
Figured this gal could use a bit more light so I busted out the ol' SE5000.. got it at 50% right now.
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Is there any reason I shouldn't be giving this thing 24 hours of light? I'm just lazy and don't want to find the controller.

I know G$ mentioned not giving his clones enough light. This guy will be plenty of light, eh @GoodShit97?
 
Is there any reason I shouldn't be giving this thing 24 hours
Yes, like us, plants need a "rest" period.
It's all about DLI, the total photosynthetic light a plant receives in a 24-hour period.
If you want to run 24 hrs you need to make sure dli is perfect.
But imo you get better results from 18 on 6 off, plus your equipment gets a break too
 
I haven't used my SpiderFarmer light in a long time so I couldn't figure out how to set up a schedule.... it took me WAY too long to input 23:59 instead of 24:00. Apparently 24:00 isn't a real time so the controller wasn't taking it. I fought that fucker for at least an hour, unplugging shit and turning dials and flipping switches.... just had to be smarter than the controller.
 
Harvest got bagged up... damn near a pound from my 3 plants. 13 grams shy.

That means the tent is freed up and summer mode is back on. The Kitchen Sink cloner has been moved inside while the hydro system runs a bleach cycle.

3rd node is starting to show but pulling off the dome for more lighting and headroom really kinda threw her in a funk. She'll bounce right back now that she can get the heat and humidity she's been craving.

Light spectrum is on the veg ratio with half the reds and full on whites and blues.

Can't wait for these little sprouts to give me another node or two... time to get my next grow on!
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Is this too much light? I've turned it down just in case...
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OR...

Could this have anything to do with the bleach running through the system off-gassing into the plant's bubble?

VPD is fine at 81 degrees and 65% rH.

Should I turn down the heat?

The bleach is getting taken care of shortly as I'll be draining the system and running it with a peroxide solution to neutralize bleach left in any lines.
 
Looks like too much light besides top leaves are unaffected. I can't imagine exposure to bleach evaporating is a good thing for the plant to be around.
 
Looks like too much light besides top leaves are unaffected. I can't imagine exposure to bleach evaporating is a good thing for the plant to be around.
Yeah the way the lower leaves were hit the hardest made me wonder about the bleach. I'll leave the light dimmed and get the bleach out of there.
 
I haven't used my SpiderFarmer light in a long time so I couldn't figure out how to set up a schedule.... it took me WAY too long to input 23:59 instead of 24:00. Apparently 24:00 isn't a real time so the controller wasn't taking it. I fought that fucker for at least an hour, unplugging shit and turning dials and flipping switches.... just had to be smarter than the controller.
Sometimes it’s worth the fight to do it your way. Other times it’s just the principle.

It’s your wall, you bang your head against it as much as you want bro! 👍🤣

One of the downsides to having small electronics is you have to remember how they work or keep the instructions with them. In this case I try to practice what I preach but still try to do it from memory…even if it does take MUCH longer than need be. 😝
 
Well I got the bleach drained and out of there. Hopefully that was the culprit.

Cleaned and scrubbed the tubs beforehand, now running it half full of RO with 3 bottles of peroxide. Once my RO resevoir is filled back up, I'll mix a light batch of nutes and throw this girl into the system for now.

Look at her... waiting so patiently
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Pretty much all the growth you see is from the 6 stems she's grown. I took the crispified fans while I was in there.

What we have here is less of a mother plant and more of a "host."

Can't wait to clone these britches and get my next thread going. There's a few more days before I give 'em the snip and then maybe 2 weeks to root. I'm getting antsy.
 
Could the issue be lack of O2 in the cup being sealed up tight?
Can you drill air holes in it or pump little air?
 
Could the issue be lack of O2 in the cup being sealed up tight?
Can you drill air holes in it or pump little air?
I just filled the cup last night. Is that long enough to deplete the O2?

I could probably bubble some air in there...

It happened so fast... looked OK last night when it went into the cup and straight crispy in the morning. Crispy AND still green...
 
Yeah I'm gonna blame the bleach...

It's looking a lot better today and I'd expect the opposite if it was something else. Almost asking for more light, from the looks of it.
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Alright.. I'm the only one in the house that can't sleep and I got antsy while I was hanging out in the basement.

Got 7 clones out of her. There was a rando stem at the base. Figured what the hell, might as well try it too.
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I'm gonna try to see if I can keep 85% humidity in the tent. If not, I'll throw on the dome.

The light is set at CLW's recommended spectrum for seedlings and clones. 69 inches above green... nice.
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Nothing in the tray but GH RapidStart and some Orca. Nothing measured, only dribbled.

Wish me luck folks... THIS IS IT
 
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you'll want to watch for the newest growth to get lighter in green color, this is a sign of rooting!!! maybe in lke four or five days you'll see them lightening up a little.

don't be tugging on them or anything... let them be!!! just whisper sweet nothings to them and they'll be fine!!!
 
you'll want to watch for the newest growth to get lighter in green color, this is a sign of rooting!!! maybe in lke four or five days you'll see them lightening up a little.

don't be tugging on them or anything... let them be!!! just whisper sweet nothings to them and they'll be fine!!!
Awesome. I won't tug. I promise.

Cuts look good, just check for wilting on stems or leafs, if it's too humid.
My tent held 85/85 all night. That a good cloning environment?

Nothing wilted! That's gotta be a good thing right?
 
Awesome. I won't tug. I promise.


My tent held 85/85 all night. That a good cloning environment?

Nothing wilted! That's gotta be a good thing right?
You’ll see some roots coming out the sides of the jiffy plugs 14-21 days if not sooner.

If humidity becomes an issue a fine spray water bottle will fix that quick.
 
You saying if I can't keep it up?

Right now, no issues with that. This ACI T7 humidifier will pump out like 8 gallons a day. It's a beast.
A humidifier is one thing I rarely need. On the rare occasion I use open water containers like the red coffee cans. I toss nice branches in them when trimming. If they get roots later I consider keeping them.

I do use a spray bottle on occasion as it’s not always easy to keep it above 70%.

Yours look great, excellent start. 👍
 
Still looking good, eh?
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That probe reads 85/85

Lights went out right after taking the cuts and came on at 4:30 this morning. That's an expected amount of droop, right? Color still looks great.
 
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