Kuwl's Deja Vue All Over Again

[Kuwl]

I really hate starting over again but it is what it is.
Not that I have to or anything but help is getting thin so we'll give it a go here @ Budbuilders.
No time to post stuff now but will tomorrow.

In a nutshell:
I am using a Auto Pot System with a 4x4 Vivosun roof tent.
MarsHydro FC4800 light and Spider-Farmer 6" controller exhaust and 4" controller intake fans.
Growing a QC Blue, Fruity OG, Sour Diesel-(SD went to seed so now it a Cookie Monster) and
2 plants that were thrown in there late, 2-3 weeks late, Wedding Cake and Durban Poison
One is in with the 4 Pot Auto Pots (2.2 gal.) and the other is a stand alone in a 3 gal cloth pot.
The 3 in AP's (SD, F OG, QC B) are 8 weeks into flower.
One Plant Dos Si Dos was a Male and was destroyed, that's when I put the WC in it's place.

 

[Rootsruler]

Yo Kuwl!!! Good to see you Brother!

I assume you got the block like the rest of us!! LOL!!

 

[steamroller]

I don't think Kuwl got banned.
He followed some friends, and I am glad to have him here.
He will be banned now though.

 

[Rootsruler]

I don't think Kuwl got banned.
He followed some friends, and I am glad to have him here.
He will be banned now though.

That sucks but then again maybe it was for the best for all of us.

 

[steamroller]

Nobody who got banned today deserved it.
Hopefully we can make this as good or better for you all.
Kuwl just joined today so I think he knew what is going on.

 

[Rootsruler]

Nobody who got banned today deserved it.
Hopefully we can make this as good or better for you all.
Kuwl just joined today so I think he knew what is going on.

Honestly, its kind of a relief not having to wade through the newb requests. Not that I'm not down to help out but it gets old when you have to tell them to stop overwatering their plants.

I can say, unequivocally, that this site is already a vast improvement.

 

[Kuwl]

Have a prob with burn, could not figure it out, at first, I thought it was the light.
100% @ 16" is where I had it so figured it was light burn.
Naaah cause the other plants did not, just Sour Diesel did and only the top buds no leaves.
So that eliminated high nute burn too.
The next day I seen the same symptoms happening on the Fruity OG but only on a couple of the lower buds, at the tips of the branches.

Puzzling, so cleaned out the tank and found some sludge in the bottom.
Cleaned out the whole Auto Pot system, trays an all, what a pain!

After smoking one I realized this is new and never happened before the way the burn is showing up on the cola's only.
What's new in my system?, I thought, darn, maybe just maybe it's the UV lights I am using for the 1st time.
They hang about 4" below the main light and are on 2 hrs a day starting at noon.
I unplugged them.
Now it the burn continues I will be really stumped. I hope I am right.
Front and center is SD back of that is QC B and far left is F OG, bottom right is either Wedding Cake or Durban Poison.

Burn tips down in the center of Fruity OG

 

[Kuwl]

Some pic's I took the other day.
QC Blue

Fruity OG

Tent

 

[steamroller]

Good first step with the UV.
1 thing at a time.

 

[OLDCRO]

Still some nice colas

 

[Kuwl]

Hey All,
I cut Sour D down this morning, it was torture looking at it.
She is a cripsy critter and might make me some cookies or brownies.
Not sure it will be good for that even.
Now I got more space in the flower tent for the 4 remaining plants,
QB Blue (Nice and fat and has nice tri's with a really good smell, sticky), 8wks
Fruity OG (Beautiful plant, very thick colas ) 8wks
Wedding Cake (Doing ok but lacking volume) 5 wks
Durban Poison (Doing good a little better than WC but still skimpy) 6 wks

Put SD in the veg tent for now to dial in the drying temp/hummi.
Not sure it will work in the cellar cause there is nowhere to exhaust
the damp air from the tent except back into the cellar.
Well I do have a window that opens to a crawl space that is under an addition
and blow it out there, maybe or could save it to hide a body, lol.
Temp is right at about 68 degrees but hummi is high at 52.
If it don't work out I will put the tent in the upstairs spare room
which is hot in this warm weather but I got window fans!
I still have to trim the leaves and cut up the branches so no pic's
and it's so ugly not sure I want a pic of it.

PPM was 1000 then 800 and now 650 (Last 10 days)
I been dropping it down a little at a time to where it is now.
Right now I am just adding plain PH'ed water to the res tank, a gal at a time,
that is cutting down the PPM to where I want it. (Adding HyClean also)

Tri's are cloudy but no amber and will be checking for that often.
It's looking good but with small pots, 2.2gal., I expect a smaller harvest.
It all seems to be going very well and I guess my mistake was letting the
UV lights get to low and maybe on for too long.
Lux is at 45-55k @ 22" @ 75% not sure if I want to lower % or not.
I've not had the best of luck at stearing the conditions.

Back Left = QC Blue
Back Right = Fruity OG
Front Left = Wedding Cake 3wks behind
Front Right = Durban Poison 2wks behind

 

[Rootsruler]

Looking good my Brother!!!!

 

[Pipecarver]

Hey All,
I cut Sour D down this morning, it was torture looking at it.
She is a cripsy critter and might make me some cookies or brownies.
Not sure it will be good for that even.
Now I got more space in the flower tent for the 4 remaining plants,
QB Blue (Nice and fat and has nice tri's with a really good smell, sticky), 8wks
Fruity OG (Beautiful plant, very thick colas ) 8wks
Wedding Cake (Doing ok but lacking volume) 5 wks
Durban Poison (Doing good a little better than WC but still skimpy) 6 wks

Put SD in the veg tent for now to dial in the drying temp/hummi.
Not sure it will work in the cellar cause there is nowhere to exhaust
the damp air from the tent except back into the cellar.
Well I do have a window that opens to a crawl space that is under an addition
and blow it out there, maybe or could save it to hide a body, lol.
Temp is right at about 68 degrees but hummi is high at 52.
If it don't work out I will put the tent in the upstairs spare room
which is hot in this warm weather but I got window fans!
I still have to trim the leaves and cut up the branches so no pic's
and it's so ugly not sure I want a pic of it.

PPM was 1000 then 800 and now 650 (Last 10 days)
I been dropping it down a little at a time to where it is now.
Right now I am just adding plain PH'ed water to the res tank, a gal at a time,
that is cutting down the PPM to where I want it. (Adding HyClean also)

Tri's are cloudy but no amber and will be checking for that often.
It's looking good but with small pots, 2.2gal., I expect a smaller harvest.
It all seems to be going very well and I guess my mistake was letting the
UV lights get to low and maybe on for too long.
Lux is at 45-55k @ 22" @ 75% not sure if I want to lower % or not.
I've not had the best of luck at stearing the conditions.

Back Left = QC Blue
Back Right = Fruity OG
Front Left = Wedding Cake 3wks behind
Front Right = Durban Poison 2wks behind

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Did you take any cuts off the girls in the tent? I think you'll like the taste of the QBlue, I guess its a blueberry kinda taste. I have to stay away from it my bags getting low already and I'd smoke it all if I pull it out....I find the Qblue and the Alaska Thunderfuck kept their flavor the best for me in the Grove bags. I don't have any cuts of the ATF for some reason but I've 3 healthy Qblue clones growing I've already topped. Somewhere down the line I want my 3x3 full of them....but that will be 2 grows away

 

[Kuwl]

Did you take any cuts off the girls in the tent? I think you'll like the taste of the QBlue, I guess its a blueberry kinda taste. I have to stay away from it my bags getting low already and I'd smoke it all if I pull it out....I find the Qblue and the Alaska Thunderfuck kept their flavor the best for me in the Grove bags. I don't have any cuts of the ATF for some reason but I've 3 healthy Qblue clones growing I've already topped. Somewhere down the line I want my 3x3 full of them....but that will be 2 grows away

I might have but if I did they didn't make it.
I was having some problems cloning and they all died except 2 that I put in the green house and are now planted in the garden area but
I don't think they will make it either and not sure what plant I took them from.
But I just ordered some seeds from the QCS place, Fruity Pebbles, Fat Bastard and Quebec Blue
I think I should not smoke one before ordering lol.
The QC B plant is very nice n sticky/smelly with lots of tri's love it.

 

[Pipecarver]

I might have but if I did they didn't make it.
I was having some problems cloning and they all died except 2 that I put in the green house and are now planted in the garden area but
I don't think they will make it either and not sure what plant I took them from.
But I just ordered some seeds from the QCS place, Fruity Pebbles, Fat Bastard and Quebec Blue
I think I should not smoke one before ordering lol.
The QC B plant is very nice n sticky/smelly with lots of tri's love it.

They'll send you a freebie too....I got mine within a week but I'm in the same country ....still you are closer to the source

 

[Kuwl]

Love those freebies Let ya know what I get.

I set up the veg tent as a drying tent.
Put a stand up oc 4" fan on the floor.
Exhaust booster fan is up top with duct going to cellar window to hidden crawl space
that is directly under my bedroom, I've never really explored that creepy part of the house.
(Ignor heater in pic, it's not on.)
SD doesn't look so bad hanging there.
She is tho I could hear seeds hitting the floor as I was plucking of some of the leaves.
tic....tic....tic,tic,tic lol

This might be good enough to keep it in the cellar.
Tent Temp = 65 Hummi in tent 57
Not perfect but might hook up the de-hummi set at 50% in the cellar, outside the tent.

Flower Tent Temp = 82 / Hummi = 41%
Light @ 75% Might start to turn down to 70% not sure.
PPM = 670 with 3/4th of the res tank full.
They slowed down drinking to about 1 gal a day.

Found a light leak coming from where the furnace pipes go out the back of the tent room wall.
A small crack but it's close enought to where electric cords coming out of the tent are.
Filled it with caulk and tightened the strings of the tent opening.
That must be how I was getting those tri-leaves on the plant closest to the heater and the opening.
No other plants had this. Kept seeing them and was so confused on how it was happening,
I thought at the time it was over feeding.

I will prob change this to my 4" exhaust with controller, then use my spare 4" to provide for the flower tent.
Cellar window is creepy haha


SD Plant

 

[OLDCRO]

Slowed down on the drinking they will be ready soon.

 

[Kuwl]

Last night as I smoked one and I thought about some of the problems
and how to avoid any more.
So this morning I read the note I left for myself cause I have no memory left ha!
Check water temp and I did, it's 69 degrees, I don't think that is good, borderline bad if you ask me.
Not sure what I can do about that, Stumped on that one.
Next, I checked the Res Tank Filter, last time I checked it was plugged and feed was slow.
Yep plugged again (So soon) with some kinda slime.
I felt the bottom of the tank and no slime of nothin' cept a little bit in the one bottom corner felt a little greasy.
Cleaned the filter and rubbed the bottom to see if any particles show up.
Nothing but clear and clean water, so that's a relief.
Checked the pans and they had an inch of water in them and float was working fine.

Cellar temp is soaring to 70 degrees and that's unusual because it's always about 64-66.
Outside it's 71 today but 65-70 the rest of the week, it's warming up here and that's not good.
Hummi is up too, rain today.

PPM 600 down from 680, PH 5.8, Temp 82, Hummi 40, Light @ 70% down from 75
QC Blue

Fruity OG

 

[OLDCRO]

With the problems you have had lately you got some fine looking colas.

 

[Kuwl]

With the problems you have had lately you got some fine looking colas.

Must be the strain lol
They are nice maybe one of the best for me.

 

[Pipecarver]

Must be the strain lol
They are nice maybe one of the best for me.

Looking good man, those are some better pics, I was wondering how the Qblue was, you'll like its taste too

 

[OLDCRO]

IM gonna have to grow some of that Quebec blue

 

[Kuwl]

Had to wash out the res tank today.
Again, it seems to accumilate stuff.
Not that bad but felt it near the water line edges and some at the bottom corners of the tank.
Decided to clean it out and put in some fresh nutes before something happens.
PPM = 600 PH = 5.8 Water felt cold
1 small spoon, 1 tsp? of KB Per Gal. (The bag come with a 2 size spoons attached but no reference to what size they are)
1/2 tsp Zyme Per Gal.
2 tsp H202 Per Gal.
1 ml HyClean Per Gal
Going to start to use Flawless Finish @ 1tsp per gal.
Then added 2 gallons of PH water = 8 gallons in the tank.
Took out the pump and washed it also the bubbler was wiped off too.
Checked the pot trays and were 6.0 PH and 600 PPM.
two trays in the back, the QC B and F OG were a bit low it seemed to me.
I lifted the pot a bit and let the water flow in till it looked good enough.
Now I will have to check daily.

Since I took out the UV I've had no burn problems.
I guess I should have hung them from the top of the tent and on for only an hour per day.
Maybe I will try again but I'm a little gun shy about that.
I have a habit of trying out new things that go wrong lol.
Then get problems cause of it.
I have to cut it out and do a basic back to the roots grow, except in AP's as I think they are a proven method.
I was going to go soil less next time but tired of loosing plants to my experiments haha.

 

[OLDCRO]

Heh Kuwl ,Pipe Carver was having the same problem with sludge he is trying something different that Moe.Red said that it could have something to do with PH and iron. If you check PC 3x3 grow journal you would get a better understanding .

 

[Pipecarver]

Had to wash out the res tank today.
Again, it seems to accumilate stuff.
Not that bad but felt it near the water line edges and some at the bottom corners of the tank.
Decided to clean it out and put in some fresh nutes before something happens.
PPM = 600 PH = 5.8 Water felt cold
1 small spoon, 1 tsp? of KB Per Gal. (The bag come with a 2 size spoons attached but no reference to what size they are)
1/2 tsp Zyme Per Gal.
2 tsp H202 Per Gal.
1 ml HyClean Per Gal
Going to start to use Flawless Finish @ 1tsp per gal.
Then added 2 gallons of PH water = 8 gallons in the tank.
Took out the pump and washed it also the bubbler was wiped off too.
Checked the pot trays and were 6.0 PH and 600 PPM.
two trays in the back, the QC B and F OG were a bit low it seemed to me.
I lifted the pot a bit and let the water flow in till it looked good enough.
Now I will have to check daily.

Since I took out the UV I've had no burn problems.
I guess I should have hung them from the top of the tent and on for only an hour per day.
Maybe I will try again but I'm a little gun shy about that.
I have a habit of trying out new things that go wrong lol.
Then get problems cause of it.
I have to cut it out and do a basic back to the roots grow, except in AP's as I think they are a proven method.
I was going to go soil less next time but tired of loosing plants to my experiments haha.

I was getting separation of ( what Moe Red said ) metals in particular Iron and maybe copper from a high ph when I add micro. So I lowered the ph before adding nutes to see if that stops the separation. I had a gritty film covering the pumps and wires.

So I did that yesterday cleaned my res and added new nutes, today my res is still a bit cloudy and I see a few floaters and I can't see the bottom of the res....something is still amiss ... My plants look good though so its not effecting them too much that I can see........yet

 

[Pipecarver]

Heh Kuwl ,Pipe Carver was having the same problem with sludge he is trying something different that Moe.Red said that it could have something to do with PH and iron. If you check PC 3x3 grow journal you would get a better understanding .

A bit different type of stuff forming I think.....maybe same reason though...I think Kuwl's is a soft slime and mines a grit

 

[Kuwl]

I was getting separation of ( what Moe Red said ) metals in particular Iron and maybe copper from a high ph when I add micro. So I lowered the ph before adding nutes to see if that stops the separation. I had a gritty film covering the pumps and wires.

So I did that yesterday cleaned my res and added new nutes, today my res is still a bit cloudy and I see a few floaters and I can't see the bottom of the res....something is still amiss ... My plants look good though so its not effecting them too much that I can see........yet

Ya puzzeling, I used a paper towel to wipe out the tank at the water line and it looked brownish,
none of my res is colored except FP is light green, the rest are clear.
I didn't have a problem with this the last grow and wonder if the pump has something to do with it.
Mine is slimy like a creamy light greyish gunk.

 

[Kuwl]

Ya puzzeling, I used a paper towel to wipe out the tank at the water line and it looked brownish,
none of my res is colored except FP is light green, the rest are clear.
I didn't have a problem with this the last grow and wonder if the pump has something to do with it.
Mine is slimy like a creamy light greyish gunk.

Since we use different nutes it is a puzzle for sure.

 

[Kuwl]

This is the stuff that coming out of the tank.
Feels fiberous, I thought I seen brown but now it's gone lol.
Next time I see that slime I will take a pic.
It rolls up in your finger like lint.

 

[Pipecarver]

Ya puzzeling, I used a paper towel to wipe out the tank at the water line and it looked brownish,
none of my res is colored except FP is light green, the rest are clear.
I didn't have a problem with this the last grow and wonder if the pump has something to do with it.
Mine is slimy like a creamy light greyish gunk.

What Moe said yesterday was that when I first start adding the micro to the water my waters ph was too high and the minerals were separating out....So I lowered the ph to 6.96 below 7 was the goal before I added the micro...I'm not sure yet as I said but what I see now is more cloudy than it was. After I lowered my water to 6.96 I added the nutes in order then after all the nutes were in the ph was 5.86 and I though that was too low for me so I added 2ml/gal ph up after diluting it first in my well water.

I'm not sure lowering it then raising it with acids and alkali 's work well in conjunction with all my nutes and well water. It maybe tricky to get it all balanced......gee's its a good thing I got nothing better to do...lol