Peat

[Rootsruler]

Is Peat considered to be soil? When I google the word it says that it is partially decomposed vegetative material but it also says it is the surface organic layer of soil.

I realize that soil is actual dirt but could Peat be classified as a dirt component?

I ask because there is a discussion on another site about how "soils" that are cannabis centric are not actual soil. Peat, Coir and Perlite among other things. My opinion is that Peat is not dirt and that those "soils" aren't actually soil.

 

[GoodShit97]

As far as I know, peat is considered "soilless"

 

[Observer]

Is Peat considered to be soil? When I google the word it says that it is partially decomposed vegetative material but it also says it is the surface organic layer of soil.

I realize that soil is actual dirt but could Peat be classified as a dirt component?

I ask because there is a discussion on another site about how "soils" that are cannabis centric are not actual soil. Peat, Coir and Perlite among other things. My opinion is that Peat is not dirt and that those "soils" aren't actually soil.

From a Google search, soil is a living breathing layer of minerals and organic matter.

Coco, Peat and Perlite do not contain such unless amended/added (?).

 

[Bandit420]

Is Peat considered to be soil? When I google the word it says that it is partially decomposed vegetative material but it also says it is the surface organic layer of soil.

I realize that soil is actual dirt but could Peat be classified as a dirt component?

I ask because there is a discussion on another site about how "soils" that are cannabis centric are not actual soil. Peat, Coir and Perlite among other things. My opinion is that Peat is not dirt and that those "soils" aren't actually soil.

It's a base of a super soil. I consider it a warm or hot weather base because it holds water well and can hold up to heat/drought.
Like Happy Frog is peat based with amendments added and by nature we call it soil but by true definition it's a potting mix.

Same thing applies to coco as a base which I consider a cool weather base as it drains faster not retaining water as long or as much as peat.
So for Summer I like a peat base especially outdoors and indoors during cool months, a coco based potting mix (super soil)

One or the only mixes I consider to be true soil would be Ocean Forest since it has sand in it but I think actual real soil would be Earth or clay based and be very heavy

 

[Rootsruler]

From a Google search, soil is a living breathing layer of minerals and organic matter.

Coco, Peat and Perlite do not contain such unless amended/added (?).

Peat contains NPK, not alot and those ions are mostly locked up in other complex organic molecules. By definition it could be considered a soil component as it contains minerals and organic matter. Granted, the ions aren't readily available but they do have them.

This is the argument I am reading from the " Peat is soil" crowd.

 

[Observer]

Peat contains NPK, not alot and those ions are mostly locked up in other complex organic molecules. By definition it could be considered a soil component as it contains minerals and organic matter. Granted, the ions aren't readily available but they do have them.

This is the argument I am reading from the " Peat is soil" crowd.

That leads to my next question, how long can a plant sustain off, let's say 5gal of Peat, to 5gal of some other "soil", without adding anything.

 

[GoodShit97]

That leads to my next question, how long can a plant sustain off, let's say 5gal of Peat, to 5gal of some other "soil", without adding anything.

About 3, maybe 4 weeks if it's a light feeding plant. All i run is promix, which is just peat, perlite, and mycorrhizae.
I usually don't feed the first 3 weeks

 

[TomH]

Of no use at all, I once knew a man named Pete Maas!
Sorry, I might have dane brammage.

 

[Pipecarver]

That leads to my next question, how long can a plant sustain off, let's say 5gal of Peat, to 5gal of some other "soil", without adding anything.

I transplant up as needed and each transplant they get a full saturation and that gives the plants a fresh wash of a starter charge in the mixes. If you keep the plants in one pot and just water the plants don't go as far without a feed. I start feeding lightly at about 4 weeks or if I see a need earlier.

 

[steamroller]

Is this really more a question of mis labeling things?
Many probably think their grow mediums to be soil when in fact they are not.
By definition it would appear the simple addition of manure [ you pick the type] to peat turns it into soil.

 

[Observer]

Of no use at all, I once knew a man named Pete Maas!
Sorry, I might have dane brammage.

lmao

dane brammage

i had dane urgery tu

 

[GoodShit97]

i had dane urgery tu

Well fuck! That explains a lot!
Lmfao