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SSHZ does Captain RedBeard's "Biscotti Blonde" and Lit Farms "All Starz"..........

SSHZ said:
Lit Farms........I'm willing to give them high credit for the last strain (Rainbow Marker) and this strain looks equally good. The last one sold right out and that says a lot to me, as multiple people came right back for more. I'm actually still smoking it, the last 6-7 grams or so. The pheno issue just means they don't work the strain for years to get to a uniform point. But, the cuttings or mothers they use are very good I'm assuming. If this new strain works out like I expect it to, i'll probably drop the All Gas Og I was going to do next and substitute another Lit Farms strain- they deserve a constant place in my garden. But let's hold off until this crop is done.

Captain RedBeards- I am not super happy with this side of the room, but it's all my fault and not fair to blame the Biscotti Blonde. It did not handle my pH probe issues well, but the Lit Farms strain did. There was also some probable light burn on this side that also did not happen with the All Starz. I've already mentally committed to doing this strain again, as I have extra seeds of this one, but want to reserve my final opinion until I have a chance to smoke it. I can tell you it's sticky, and a great smell right now- but let's see how it finishes off and how long it takes.

i am putting a large sign up in my room- led's no lower than 22-24 inches & ppm no higher than 450. Not sure why I'm having a mental block on these issues, as I know my grows always turn out better when I don't push the room too far.........Honestly, I am not spending as much time in the room as I'm redoing my 1200 sq. ft basement, starting with sanding the popcorn off the ceiling which is no walk in the park.
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I have something similar on the walls and ceiling of my basement recreation room. And it was last painted in semigloss white by the looks of it.

Ripping it down is what I’d like to do but that’s another can of worms.

I feel your pain. Good luck with the sanding and back pain.
 
SSHZ said:
Nope. I don't add extra perlite anymore. I just buy the HP Pro-mix, which includes a higher % mix of larger size perlite. And, no, I stopped adding the lime too. I think it was Aqua Man a couple of years ago who convinced me it was not necessary and the extra dose tends to reduce availability of Nitrogen, if I'm not mistaken.

Both things have worked out fine, no need to make any changes.
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Thnx sshz So you do no soil prep before placing sprouts into large pots. Is it necessary to water in your promix a week or so before placing in seedlings to activate lime and nutrients or something? I have early cm deficiency consistently even after starting them out at 5ml/g botanicare cm
 
Correct.......Promix does it all for you. I just thoroughly water the pots before placing the seedlings in. And spray the tops a couple of times a day, until they all pop thru the soil. In a week or so, I just water as normal with my watering can. Promix has a nutrient base that should last 10 days or so no nutes are necessarily. If you are using r.o. water, I would add 5ml per gallon cal/mag. If your using reg water and/or you ppm is 20-30 or above, you'll be fine. I sincerely doubt you are seeing any cal/mag deficiencies from a week old sprout. More likely it's a pH or nutrient level issue.
 
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When i bought the house and finished the basement, I was in my 40's and physically capable of doing it all. The ceiling is turning out to be a bear, and it's slow going. I'm trying to get that part done since I have an appt. with a surgeon on the 17th to schedule surgery for a hernia I've had since high school (50 years). At my age now and the hernia is quite bad, so my recovery will easily be 2+ months so I'll be shut down from doing that work thru Feb and March.

The plan is to clean up and paint the ceiling, while recessing some more lighting. Then paint the wood paneling with a whitewash, pull up the carpet and lay down some waterproof flooring. The paneling is outdated now, popcorn ceilings are frowned upon, and since we'll sell the house in 3-5 years, I don't want that to be an issue.
 
I use ro water.
SSHZ said:
Correct.......Promix does it all for you. I just thoroughly water the pots before placing the seedlings in. And spray the tops a couple of times a day, until they all pop thru the soil. In a week or so, I just water as normal with my watering can. Promix has a nutrient base that should last 10 days or so no nutes are necessarily. If you are using r.o. water, I would add 5ml per gallon cal/mag. If your using reg water and/or you ppm is 20-30 or above, you'll be fine. I sincerely doubt you are seeing any cal/mag deficiencies from a week old sprout. More likely it's a pH or nutrient level issue.
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I use ro water.
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Everything going in is adjusted to 6.3. I start them with 5ml/gal cm only just sparingly. I have consistent problems for first weeks I will try thoroughly watering pot with 5ml/g 6.3 and see . I thought it was ph too but promix should have it correct.
 
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When i bought the house and finished the basement, I was in my 40's and physically capable of doing it all. The ceiling is turning out to be a bear, and it's slow going. I'm trying to get that part done since I have an appt. with a surgeon on the 17th to schedule surgery for a hernia I've had since high school (50 years). At my age now and the hernia is quite bad, so my recovery will easily be 2+ months so I'll be shut down from doing that work thru Feb and March.

The plan is to clean up and paint the ceiling, while recessing some more lighting. Then paint the wood paneling with a whitewash, pull up the carpet and lay down some waterproof flooring. The paneling is outdated now, popcorn ceilings are frowned upon, and since we'll sell the house in 3-5 years, I don't want that to be an issue.
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I hear what your saying Removing popcorn is alot of work and huge mess. And thats only the beginning. Good luck man Steady as she goes
 
Not necessarily........... lime works SLOWLY, it's not an instant correct. What is your r.o. water ppm? Mine is usually between 20-40 ppm, depending on the time of year. Before the r.o., it's about 300 ppm. Pic's as it's happening would be great, and would surely help with a correct diagnosis.

I help a number of people, working with them thru their issues until they get straightened out. One guy was consistently having problems. After working with him for weeks, I noticed he did not give the pH correction enough time. So, he would add his pH up, and when it hit 6.3, he'd start watering. 10 minutes later, his pH rose to 6.5 in the resevoir. He was not giving it enough time to fully adjust. Simple things like this often are the issues.

Two new things:

1. I'm going to run a test this next crop, run it at 6.2 pH, instead of 6.3..........let's see how it goes.

2. All Gas OG......I really wanted to run these, but I don't want the heat from the wife. Remember, she's the boss, I'm just a worker bee. Most of the grows I've seen on these is outside. I was reading with one of the grows, the smell got him busted. But I may throw a few of these outside this spring........ People will just think it's a dead skunk somewhere (hopefully). They stay short, produce really well, finish nicely and the end product is worthy.
 
"I hear what your saying Removing popcorn is alot of work and huge mess. And thats only the beginning. Good luck man Steady as she goes".....

I bought a sander that attaches to my shop vac, and the sand paper it uses has holes so about 80-90% of the dust is caught and sucked up. If my basement wasn't rather large, it would have been a piece of cake. I'm doing 8x8 patches, normally one a day. I've had to partition sections with plastic to keep whatever dust happens close by. I'll be chopping the grow room in 12 days or so, and hanging everything as normal, so no dust can be floating around.
 
Lime....... there are multiple types. Hydrated is quick acting, dolomitic is slower. You are NOT supposed to use hydrated lime in marijuana grows, only dolomitic.

  • Types of lime:
    • Agricultural limestone or "Ag lime" is a finely granulated calcitic limestone. The finer the grind or mesh size, the more readily it will act to raise soil pH. Powdered lime is faster acting but messier to apply than pelletized lime.
    • Pelletized lime is very similar to ground ag lime but easier to apply in this pellet form.
    • Dolomitic lime also contains calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Recommended for raising pH on low magnesium soils.
    • Burnt or hydrated lime should not be used on lawns or most gardens. They are too caustic.
 
SSHZ said:
Not necessarily........... lime works SLOWLY, it's not an instant correct. What is your r.o. water ppm? Mine is usually between 20-40 ppm, depending on the time of year. Before the r.o., it's about 300 ppm. Pic's as it's happening would be great, and would surely help with a correct diagnosis.

I help a number of people, working with them thru their issues until they get straightened out. One guy was consistently having problems. After working with him for weeks, I noticed he did not give the pH correction enough time. So, he would add his pH up, and when it hit 6.3, he'd start watering. 10 minutes later, his pH rose to 6.5 in the resevoir. He was not giving it enough time to fully adjust. Simple things like this often are the issues.

Two new things:

1. I'm going to run a test this next crop, run it at 6.2 pH, instead of 6.3..........let's see how it goes.

2. All Gas OG......I really wanted to run these, but I don't want the heat from the wife. Remember, she's the boss, I'm just a worker bee. Most of the grows I've seen on these is outside. I was reading with one of the grows, the smell got him busted. But I may throw a few of these outside this spring........ People will just think it's a dead skunk somewhere (hopefully). They stay short, produce really well, finish nicely and the end product is worthy.
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My tap water measures 200ish My ro coming off at around 10 on the 500 scale. I have been following you for a couple years. Read lots of your posts. You have given me fair bit of advice. Thank you. I consistently struggle first few weeks. Wrinkled leaves, some deformaties and reduced growth. Feels like cm def right from the start. But starting at 5ml/g it shouldn’t be. I wonder about ph. I foliar cal/mg and epsom alot to get them snapped out of it and by third week they take off. Will be starting some more godfather og in a week or so. Gonna water promix in pots thoroughly and let pots stand for a week or so. Maybe thier precharged lime needs to to get going? I dunno
 
Nope............IMO, no need to water that far out. Something else is going on. Things off the top of my head-

1. temperature- is the medium too cold or hot. Is it sitting on a concrete floor?
2. wind- are you blowing straight onto these babies?
3. watering temps- 68-72 degrees going in?
4. how close are your lights/leds?
5. Any buildup of salts on your pots or containers?

That's a start.

Here's not the place, as you should get opinions from others on here too. Start a thread, when you start the Godfather OG, and let's get you straightened out. The beginning phase should be the easiest......

Or message me and we'll figure it out. And pics early on of your issues!
 
I have a general feeling it's your starting medium? Are you using promix and if so, which one exactly.......
 
Purple Caper "Grand Fire" appears to be a limited yielder, as the company states you need to top multiple times to increase yield.....that means a longer veg period, probably 6-8 weeks to produce what I need. So, I'll do these another time. Hunting thru my stock for another strain now.........
 
Looks like I'm getting 8-11 inches tomorrow night and Monday..........hopefully no ice or loss of power. We haven't had snow in over 2 years but the last big storm, I lost power for almost 3 days and would go into the grow room with a flashlight at lights on and leave it on for 12 hours, then let it stay dark for 12 hours.
 
Up to 14 inches expected now....lol Most snow here in quite a few years. Hoping for NO ice

Regarding the Grand Fire strain- yes, it will require a longer veg period (6+ weeks instead of 4) so I'll match that with another strain that needs it too, down the road.

So, I'll pick 2 of the B2ACG strains this next crop. 8-9 days left before the chop, I'm using UV these last 10 days too........
 
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Tough to read......

Florida GasPack
Marshmellow OG
Oracle Octane
Tropicana Cherry
Frozen Black Cherry✅

Definitely doing the Frozen B.C., not sure of the other one yet.
 
Damn......if it wasn't for Shantibaba, I'd probably have chopped by now. He always said (as I've repeated 100X), "when you think the plants are ready, wait another week"...........this guy was breeding back in the beginning with Nevil in Amsterdam and knows his shit. And he's still selling seeds. Notice he still has the NL#5, among other interesting strains. I would grow any of these over Todd's (AG Seeds) in a second.

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I mean I dont even give them a look in if there isnt photos or discription on the strains..I guess I can look them up but im lazy 😆
 
European so you need to search the Euro pot threads......most are available. Shantibaba I believe is associated with Mr. Nice seed bank too, and there should be plenty of pic's from them, as they are a large bank that's been around a long time. I used to order things from there....but not sure they send to USA anymore. Try Overgrow, ICMag to start.......

Point is though, I can guarantee you are getting true old time 80's genetics, not the mish-mash others are selling.
 
Under the weather with a cold and cough but the chopping will go on- starting Saturday, I'll chop the All Starz. Then do the Biscotti on Monday, as I have my daughters birthday on Sunday.

A side note- can't help but think I have to do another Lit Farms strain this next grow- it deserves to be in the room, after 2 solid grows with their strains. This one actually looks a bit better then the Rainbow Marker last grow, but who knows how the high will be. Add in how tolerant they have been, as they breezed thru the pH issues I had- I own 8 or 9 of them so I'll have to decide shortly.
 
And something to think about....

"Japanese physicist Dr. Kei Mori exposed plant life to two of the conditions of the original world ecology -before the Great Flood.

He grew tomato plants under a plastic dome which filtered the ultraviolet rays; and he increased the carbon-dioxide.

After two years, a cherry tomato plant was 16 feet tall, with 903 tomatoes on it. After six years, the same tomato plant was over 30 feet tall and had produced over 5,000 tomatoes."
 
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