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[Stoneyluv]

Captainsfamily for 15% off. It’s working now. Remember to write CannaGranny in the comments.
CreekWalker is great! I love the Cement Shoes, but would chose The Shine Or Biscotti Blond over that. Also hearing that the Gassy Cream Cake is fire.
I’ve got the Silly Billy Pear going this round.

yea you got the shine on my radar for sure now. i have some time to shop so i'm gonna look over his site a few more times before i order anything.

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and BTW Granny those other two Gassy Cream cake seeds sprouted too so i put hose in soil and they will join the race and be mainlined like the others in soil. so between last round and now i have gone 10/10 with the Captain's seeds. he made good on his side of the bargain, so now it's time for me to make it happin,, captain!!!!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Mr. Sour Pantz

Damn I hadn't seen this one. GrumpAzz grows Mr. Sour Pantz... can you imagine?

Either way... grabbed a pack of those and some Lemon Lava Lime. WOOT

 

[CannaGranny]

Damn I hadn't seen this one. GrumpAzz grows Mr. Sour Pantz... can you imagine?

Either way... grabbed a pack of those and some Lemon Lava Lime. WOOT

Lmao at GrumpAzz Grows Mr Sour Pants!

 

[Stoneyluv]

Mr. Grumpy's Mr. sour pants!!! now thats a title!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

i had a slight issue tonight, i noticed that my waterfalls were in fact too strong and eroding some of the coco mix from the bottom of the netcups. to fix this i put my elbows back on, only this time i drilled a small weep hole in the elbow so it lets a little water stream hit the netcups but not enough to cause erosion.. ..i hope!!

left bucket shows before the elbow and right side shows the fix..



i did the best i could to repack some coco back in the corner without disturbing any small roots...


but yeah, we got small roots on both... game on now!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

 

[Stoneyluv]

the end of week one and they're both still alive!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

so my weep holes i drilled in the waterfall elbows still eroded the coco a little so i turned the elbows around and just let the waterfall go down. it turns out there is plenty of splashing at the level it's at so it keeps the coco damp, and thats all i really wanted in the first place.

yesterday was the left side, here's the right..




so i was recently informed by OLDCRO that the newer gh flouralicious does not contain any fulvic acid anymore, and since i stopped using it anyway because i think thats what was messing with my ph before i bought a bottle of mr fulvic based on hearing a few of you guys talk about it and well here i messed up and bought mr humic instead but it turns out they're the same product so i lucked out!!!

i have no idea what it will do to ppm or ph so i snapped a photo.. adding 1ml/gallon ratio.



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they're gonna need a little extra help because right now the soil plants are looking bigger...

 

[Stoneyluv]

I have been having trouble keeping up my humidity with my dinky mister..



it's been keeping it up to like 45% and when i open the door it's right down in the 20's. i've been trying to keep the entire lung room up but it's been tough this winter for some reason.

so i upgraded to a mars hydro humidifier.



it's a lot more convenient to fill and holds five times more and has it's own built in controller and probe. it's now part of command central...



i mounted the probe in between the plants for now, i'll move this as needed..



hopefully i can get the numbers where i need them... came with accessories...



soil growing doesn't have nearly the issue with all the moisture coming from underneath the plants. close to a 40% rh difference between the soil cabinet and the hydro one.

i'll check it in a few hours and see whats up.

C'Mon #5!!!!!

 

[doublej]

Is that glow off tha cali light?

That's a nice hummffer

I may have to finally break out my drand nue dehummffer with this setup I'm working on

 

[Stoneyluv]

Is that glow off tha cali light?

yeah, it's at 20% r-w-b equal but i use my camera flash to show some natural close up color. i can set it to white but i'm lazy!! haha

That's a nice hummffer

so far i like it!!! if it works for what i need i'll really like it!!! it was a toss up between this one and the ACI cloud but according to the specs ths one is more than twice the vapor at 560ml/hour. according to the specs anyway...

may have to finally break out my drand nue dehummffer with this setup I'm working on

in a couple months i should be good to go till December again. might put the dinky one in the soil cabinet.

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fired up and ready to go green... lets go racin!!!!!!

 

[doublej]

yeah, it's at 20% r-w-b equal but i use my camera flash to show some natural close up color. i can set it to white but i'm lazy!! haha



so far i like it!!! if it works for what i need i'll really like it!!! it was a toss up between this one and the ACI cloud but according to the specs ths one is more than twice the vapor at 560ml/hour. according to the specs anyway...



in a couple months i should be good to go till December again. might put the dinky one in the soil cabinet.

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fired up and ready to go green... lets go racin!!!!!!

I've got it on...

 

[Stoneyluv]

i pulled a YOLO and bought an aci controller for the hydro cabinet..



there was nothing wrong with the digital controller i had in there but it's nice to be able to see and control both cabinets from one screen..



the new humidifier is kicking ass!! pumped a full gallon of water into there the first 24hrs!! now that everything is saturated better it should be able to maintain with ease. but damn a gallon!!!

 

[midwestcannaman]

i pulled a YOLO and bought an aci controller for the hydro cabinet..

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there was nothing wrong with the digital controller i had in there but it's nice to be able to see and control both cabinets from one screen..

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the new humidifier is kicking ass!! pumped a full gallon of water into there the first 24hrs!! now that everything is saturated better it should be able to maintain with ease. but damn a gallon!!!

That humidifier sounds pretty decent, im in the market for one so I'll check back in with you to see how you like it still in a week or two.

 

[Skinnypuppy80]

i pulled a YOLO and bought an aci controller for the hydro cabinet..

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there was nothing wrong with the digital controller i had in there but it's nice to be able to see and control both cabinets from one screen..

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the new humidifier is kicking ass!! pumped a full gallon of water into there the first 24hrs!! now that everything is saturated better it should be able to maintain with ease. but damn a gallon!!!

Star wars fan huh..

 

[Skinnypuppy80]

I recently(2 weeks ago?) got a t-7 aci which holds about 2+ gal. Initially I had to fill it every 40 hrs or so to keep rh at 60%. My apartment though is normally like 12%, so it was constantly going. I believe you bought a vivosun product if I remember correctly? I went aci just for ease of tying it into my controller. I will b watching ur grow for sure!

edit: marshydro, not vivosun...

 

[Stoneyluv]

That humidifier sounds pretty decent, im in the market for one so I'll check back in with you to see how you like it still in a week or two.

if anything comes up i'll raise a red flag for sure!!

Star wars fan huh..

hell yeah!!!!

I recently(2 weeks ago?) got a t-7 aci which holds about 2+ gal. Initially I had to fill it every 40 hrs or so to keep rh at 60%. My apartment though is normally like 12%, so it was constantly going. I believe you bought a vivosun product if I remember correctly? I went aci just for ease of tying it into my controller. I will b watching ur grow for sure!

edit: marshydro, not vivosun...

the T7 was just out of my impulse buy price range and i didn't think the T3 was enough horsepower for what i needed. i've grown to like ACI a lot and they were my first choice but the T3 listed as 240ml/hour max and the mars hydro is 580ml/hour max. the T7 is more than twice that at a whopping 1300 ml/hour max!!

this is the worst time of the year for me so if it can keep up now i should be fine with it.

i will say though this is the first time ever where i get to say exactly what my environment is and not just settle for the best i can get. i'm hoping it translates into better growth and bigger yields.

 

[Zen_seeker]

“i will say though this is the first time ever where i get to say exactly what my environment is and not just settle for the best i can get. i'm hoping it translates into better growth and bigger yields.”

 

[Stoneyluv]

“i will say though this is the first time ever where i get to say exactly what my environment is and not just settle for the best i can get. i'm hoping it translates into better growth and bigger yields.”

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i yell this to my chickens most days when i let them out of the cage!! hahaha

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ya know man the pressure is all on me now, i have nothing i can blame anything on now!!! cool thing is i can see on a graph already how much more steady the vpd had been since i hooked it all up over the weekend..

 

[Stoneyluv]

I could use some help please..

i thought my leaf edges were curling because of low/unsteady humidity but last week i fixed that issue but i'm still seeing the curling and it seems to be getting worse.

the pics.. left side-left plant..









the stats...

just starting week four since seed.
water temp 70°F
air temp 74°F
RH 61%
100watts led about 18" above.
70ppm K buffer
80ppm cal/mag
130ppm floranova grow
20ppm mr humic

anyone have any ideas what i'm doing wrong?

 

[moe.red]

Shit man that is dialed in on paper.

I hate to say this I mean really…. How’s that mite situation going?



My only mite infection ^^^

 

[moe.red]

Look where the petioles meet the stalk with magnification

 

[Stoneyluv]

Shit man that is dialed in on paper.

I hate to say this I mean really…. How’s that mite situation going?

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My only mite infection ^^^

Look where the petioles meet the stalk with magnification

i looked pretty good and i don't see a sign of a single insect of any kind. i need a make a bucket or something that holds the plant with the roots in water while i inspect. i'l look thorough tonight but i really don't see any signs at all. i'll probably cut a burned leaf off so i can lay it lat and look at it but just from bending and looking i saw nothing. nothing crawling or moving on the stems at all. no leaf chew marks either.

this seemed to happen just after i added the mr humic but it very well could just be a coincidence. i have enough top off solution mixed up without the mr humic that i could swap out the rez... i don't what else to do.

and then to add insult to injury i forgot to turn my humidifier back on after filling last night and it was back down to 40% today! dammit!!!

i know this sounds silly but could the dna be sensitive? i was looking at the same cultivar i have in soil and also has slight signs at the leaf edge, but not tacoing as much.

 

[steamroller]

Really looks like a nutrient issue to me. Which is why I stayed quiet.
N or K or both?
It certainly could be a fickle strain also IMO.

 

[Stoneyluv]

N or K or both?

like not enough of it right?

i've been running the exact same solution since birth, the only add was the mr humic. 300ppm at week four seems low but they're not getting better left alone.

and with everything frozen right now i don't really have enough rain water so if i need to do a change out it will have to be with my well water.

 

[steamroller]

Not enough IMO.
For what it is worth I have been installing the Mr. Humic almost every or every other feeding pretty liberally this grow of mine.
I know only a little is needed but I just pour a little....
I don't think the Mr.H is causing the issue.

 

[moe.red]

I e never seen a deficiency or imbalance present like this but always learning




Those are not taco even. The tips are folding over. Very weird.

 

[steamroller]

I e never seen a deficiency or imbalance present like this but always learning

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Those are not taco even. The tips are folding over. Very weird.

That is not what my guess is on.
I am guessing by leaf dis coloration.
The curl could be lighting?

 

[moe.red]

Yeah there is more than one symptom here and we are looking at different parts on different plants.

Roots look fine.

Numbers look good.

I do not believe humic will do this but fulvic is better between the 2

Is there a lot of wind?

 

[moe.red]

like not enough of it right?

i've been running the exact same solution since birth, the only add was the mr humic. 300ppm at week four seems low but they're not getting better left alone.

and with everything frozen right now i don't really have enough rain water so if i need to do a change out it will have to be with my well water.

Let’s not change water yet. How is the ph trend? Stable or are you adjusting?

 

[moe.red]

Hmmmmm



Hope those white dots aren’t moving.

 

[moe.red]

Dude if you have any micronized sulfur put some on one plant at least at lights out. Done correctly it won’t hurt the plant at all but the bugs if there are any will fuck right off.

 

[Observer]

74f is lower temp side for me, slowing metabolism and nutrient uptake.

i think that K buffer is causing an issue as well.

the slight "taco" is from low rh

 

[Observer]

130ppm of floragrow with an added 70ppm of K?

did any area of the rootzone dry up?

 

[Stoneyluv]

Not enough IMO.
For what it is worth I have been installing the Mr. Humic almost every or every other feeding pretty liberally this grow of mine.
I know only a little is needed but I just pour a little....
I don't think the Mr.H is causing the issue.

i don't think it's the mr fulvic either.

they're light green and pale for sure. could the burn just be the leaves eating themselves? if all the minerals and nutes and balanced properly i would think they might not ever show a deficiency and just start taking from lower leaves. stoner thinking anyway..

That is not what my guess is on.
I am guessing by leaf dis coloration.
The curl could be lighting?

could be a combo, too much lighting and not enough food. GHG chart says this much for week one seedlings.

Yeah there is more than one symptom here and we are looking at different parts on different plants.

Roots look fine.

Numbers look good.

I do not believe humic will do this but fulvic is better between the 2

Is there a lot of wind?

the mr humic and mr fulvic are the same product. just labeled different for location...

and not much wind, just a little jiggle..

https://imgur.com/a/lkpHZ7Y

Let’s not change water yet. How is the ph trend? Stable or are you adjusting?

Moe this has been my most stable batch ever. in the three weeks plus it has crept from 5.5 to 6.0 i added 0.5ml of 20% down and accidentally overshot and had to put a ml of up in. this was a couple weeks ago before i connected to good humidifier. leaves have burned and continued to look bad since then so i figured my oops was recovered. i fixed it in the rez before it got to the plant sites so i assumed i was okay.

i assume a lot!!!!

i'm getting to the point where i could use a top off, i'm about a gallon low right now, it could be a good time to add some extra food if it is needed.

Hmmmmm

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Hope those white dots aren’t moving.

me too man!!!!! we just got home so i'm gonna give them a very close inspection here in a bit... if i see anything at all i'll post it!!!

Dude if you have any micronized sulfur put some on one plant at least at lights out. Done correctly it won’t hurt the plant at all but the bugs if there are any will fuck right off.

i do... i think it's the right stuff, not sure if it's micronized but its a powder that i use on my soil plants in flowering for terps....



just sprinkle it right on the leaves? then wash it off before lights on?

74f is too low, slowing metabolism and nutrient uptake.

i think that K buffer is causing an issue as well.

the slight "taco" is from low rh

the rh sunk low up until a week ago, it was unstable and at most only 45% and at it's lowest was in the teens. it's ben a week now since it's been low, except for my fuck up last night.

i think i'm gonna raise the light up a bit more.

130ppm of floragrow with an added 70ppm of K?

did any area of the rootzone dry up?

no, not once been moist since day one. little droplets all around the inside.

 

[Observer]

i don't think it's the mr fulvic either.

they're light green and pale for sure. could the burn just be the leaves eating themselves? if all the minerals and nutes and balanced properly i would think they might not ever show a deficiency and just start taking from lower leaves. stoner thinking anyway..



could be a combo, too much lighting and not enough food. GHG chart says this much for week one seedlings.

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the mr humic and mr fulvic are the same product. just labeled different for location...

and not much wind, just a little jiggle..

https://imgur.com/a/lkpHZ7Y

Moe this has been my most stable batch ever. in the three weeks plus it has crept from 5.5 to 6.0 i added 0.5ml of 20% down and accidentally overshot and had to put a ml of up in. this was a couple weeks ago before i connected to good humidifier. leaves have burned and continued to look bad since then so i figured my oops was recovered. i fixed it in the rez before it got to the plant sites so i assumed i was okay.

i assume a lot!!!!

i'm getting to the point where i could use a top off, i'm about a gallon low right now, it could be a good time to add some extra food if it is needed.



me too man!!!!! we just got home so i'm gonna give them a very close inspection here in a bit... if i see anything at all i'll post it!!!



i do... i think it's the right stuff, not sure if it's micronized but its a powder that i use on my soil plants in flowering for terps....

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just sprinkle it right on the leaves? then wash it off before lights on?



the rh sunk low up until a week ago, it was unstable and at most only 45% and at it's lowest was in the teens. it's ben a week now since it's been low, except for my fuck up last night.

i think i'm gonna raise the light up a bit more.



no, not once been moist since day one. little droplets all around the inside.

raising the light wont hurt, see how it continues to develop.

 

[Observer]

any way to measure the ppfd?

 

[Stoneyluv]

any way to measure the ppfd?

yeah i have a modified ukrain surplus PAR meter!!!! .. funny but also true!!!

comin in a little hot!!! hahaha not terrible though.


raise the roof!!!!!!!

https://imgur.com/a/2GdYNX1

thats a little better... i'll monitor from here.

 

[Stoneyluv]

74f is lower temp side for me, slowing metabolism and nutrient uptake.

you're right about this, actually it's setpoint is 74 so it really runs at 75°, still low i understand... i was trying to balance out a perfect temp for an affordable electricity bill.

i just bumped both cabinets up 3° they should run around 78° air temp now.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Hmmmmm

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Hope those white dots aren’t moving.

turns out it was just debris.. i think maybe sawdust from cutting the hole in the wall for the humidifier hose.



either way i did a very thorough inspection and i am proud to say i have zero bugs!!

i'm leaving another close up of each of the roots just in case something looks odd there.... they each have a brown spot in the middle, probably my nutes stain, it's not slimy and washes off but i wanted to post just in case..





i raised the temp a few degrees and also raised the light a few inches. i gave the smaller plant on the right some foliar spray to see if it makes a change..