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Supa Freak, Fryday, and First Lady

Salutations all u beautiful ppl! The ladies r cruising into the finish line soon I hope, maybe another week or two? The fryday has been WAY to close to the lights for awhile now and I believe there is foxtailing going on :|

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My question for u all, should I try to bend the tallest colas or just leave as is? There's like 6-8 of em anywhere from 12" to 3" from the light :| On Monday I did turn the light down to 50% from 60%

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Was having ph problems as well for weeks, I think i got that solved though. Dunno if it was from turning up the air pump or introducing h2O2, but it's no longer dropping .5 in 12 hrs anymore.
Thanks for looking!! Criticism greatly appreciated :)
 
Salutations all u beautiful ppl! The ladies r cruising into the finish line soon I hope, maybe another week or two? The fryday has been WAY to close to the lights for awhile now and I believe there is foxtailing going on :|

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My question for u all, should I try to bend the tallest colas or just leave as is? There's like 6-8 of em anywhere from 12" to 3" from the light :| On Monday I did turn the light down to 50% from 60%

Oldest supafreak top bud
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Was having ph problems as well for weeks, I think i got that solved though. Dunno if it was from turning up the air pump or introducing h2O2, but it's no longer dropping .5 in 12 hrs anymore.
Thanks for looking!! Criticism greatly appreciated :)
Hey can you elaborate on adding peroxide? Was that to battle bacteria bloom? The ph dropping can be an indicator of that if it's dropping fast that's almost always the case. If it's a slow drop, usually just time for water change.

I don't remember if you were running live or you run "sterile" (in the hydro sense).

I tried sterile, using peroxide, but ultimately love running live now. But it did require having rodi water as you can almost never trust the water from any other source not to bring something bad eventually.
 
@ninjadip yeah, it was dropping hard for some weeks. I'm guessing it's from what you said. I was using live for most of this grow, king crab. Stopped using it probably around the time of the ph drop, maybe didn't help the ph then? My water source(tap water,) is running through an isprings stage 5 filtration system so it is RO water I'm using. I'll have to look up rodi, is that reverse osmosis distilled or something? I do use calmag for the ro water, than add gh trio. Even after last weeks water change the ph was dropping hard, no king crab added though. Maybe that's been my problem then? Not adding the king crab? But yeah, I'm a week or 2 from axing so maybe from bacteria bloom? I'll have to look that term up lol

Speaking of the almighty 🪓, u r swinging urs around now?! Love this stage of the grow!! lol Excited and watching ur grow, what strain r u doing?
 
DI is just the last container you can add to a RO system that De Ionizes the water.
For my tap it removed the last 20ppm of minerals and such that were left from RO without it.
It is the quickest exhausted and most expensive part of RO/DI systems.
You can simply add one more cartridge to your set up and you will be complete. It is placed last in the filter line.
They sell color changing DI resin so without using a TDS meter you can see when it needs replacement.

When I made RO/DI for my fish the set up was two canisters in series and you would just move the second to the #1 spot when #1 expired and then replace the new media and place it as number 2.
That was to be sure none ever passed as the first canister became exhausted.
Not sure that type of redundancy is needed for the plants.
 
@ninjadip yeah, it was dropping hard for some weeks. I'm guessing it's from what you said. I was using live for most of this grow, king crab. Stopped using it probably around the time of the ph drop, maybe didn't help the ph then? My water source(tap water,) is running through an isprings stage 5 filtration system so it is RO water I'm using. I'll have to look up rodi, is that reverse osmosis distilled or something? I do use calmag for the ro water, than add gh trio. Even after last weeks water change the ph was dropping hard, no king crab added though. Maybe that's been my problem then? Not adding the king crab? But yeah, I'm a week or 2 from axing so maybe from bacteria bloom? I'll have to look that term up lol

Speaking of the almighty 🪓, u r swinging urs around now?! Love this stage of the grow!! lol Excited and watching ur grow, what strain r u doing?
You might not need the DI part, just used to putting it all together, just a little extra. I got my setup from a saltwater fish guy so maybe that part is overkill. Hopefully, i didn't confuse you, RO should be fine.


Did you stop the king crab for a reason? In my experience it's best to add the bennies at every change or water addition. The reason i asked about why peroxide, is because usually if doing live you never add peroxide because that kills the good and bad and usually only used to help fight off a bacteria bloom.

Yeah i just finished chopping today. Double dose from irie genetics. First time growing, buds aren't as big as previous strains I've grown, but looks good and the finish matches the genetic suppliers pictures. Never had one finish this fast, interesting plant.

They took a bunch of blood from me at the doctor today, hopefully they can figure out what is going on with me.

Got a Bush concert next week i don't want to miss lol

Best of luck buddy, i think you got that spark and curiosity with growing that is just awesome.

I would add to this chart if ph is falling fast after a change, it is likely there is a root rot issue from bad bacteria. If your roots look brown, slimy, and smelly that's a very clear indicator you got an issue with bad bacteria, if white and bright you are good to go. This chart helped me understand how to read the patterns between your two readings, EC and pH, likely you've already seen it, but if not here you go
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@ninjadip yeah my ro comes out 0 ppms, have better things to throw money at i think. I really appreciate ur responses though, Nice
Did you stop the king crab for a reason?
Just a newb fuck up, should've kept the crab going. my next grow I imagine, shall be more dialed in. I was a bit too complacent on this grow.
 
Glycerine... among others r sweet songs. Sounds like a good time! My next concert will b motionless in white w bring me the horizon as the headliner in may. stoked for that . I hope u r doing well @ninjadip sounds like u have some health issues:( Will keep watching ur grows to help me expand my knowledge on such.

Yeah, the peroxide was just a hail Mary, i should have not stopped the crab doses, which is probably why my ph started fluctuating. I have no good excuse why I quit using the crab besides stupidity 😒
 
Glycerine... among others r sweet songs. Sounds like a good time! My next concert will b motionless in white w bring me the horizon as the headliner in may. stoked for that . I hope u r doing well @ninjadip sounds like u have some health issues:( Will keep watching ur grows to help me expand my knowledge on such.

Yeah, the peroxide was just a hail Mary, i should have not stopped the crab doses, which is probably why my ph started fluctuating. I have no good excuse why I quit using the crab besides stupidity 😒
Sorry man, i wasn't trying to give you the third degree lol, just asking questions to make sure i understand and don't say shit that doesn't apply.

We've all been there lol


Yeah, health is funny lately. I'd like to think I'm getting better, just very slowly. Thank you for the love, i appreciate it brother.

Speaking of hail Mary, i want to see that movie once i can get a good 4k torrent available
 
Got a Bush concert next week i don't want to miss
Fuck yes 🤘

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With your dropping pH, what's happening to your ppm? Staying steady or is there a rise?

I really like that chart that Ninja shared. It really only works if you're topping off with the same mix as what's in your plant-sites, though. That's the only way to keep everything static unless you're doing add-backs every day like @smoke does. Add-backs were too labor intensive for me. I'm doing hydro so I can go days without having anything to do.

I ask about your PPMs because they can cause the pH to drift, depending on the concentration. Think about your plants.. they'll be drinking no matter what. Ideally, they'll uptake all of what you're giving them. If not, the PPMs will rise as they drink more than they eat. A rise in PPM will cause your pH to drop and vise-versa.

You're towards the end of the run, so they may just be eating less and may have even stopped eating altogether. I'm leaning more towards this, than a bacterial bloom. Does your res smell funny or does it smell like soil or earth, like a good dirt?

The ratios are a more likely culprit if it's happening early on, but can be an issue late in flower as well. Same sort of deal, except they're hungry but can't uptake what they need because the nutrients aren't in the proper ratio. They'll slowly stop uptaking certain salts which, in turn, should show up with a rise in PPMs and a drop in pH.

Failed ratios are not always the grower's fault. Some strains are just hungry for more of something in particular. That's where experience spotting little deficiencies will come in handy.

I had a lot of trouble keeping the GH Trio in line. I think it's an easy one to get out of wack. I used it for 2 grows before switching to Lotus powdered nutes. My plants LOVED that stuff and the resevoir was easy to keep stable, but I hated mixing it. It just didn't seem to fully dissolve. I luckily got a promotional set of bottles from Athena and haven't looked back. Rock solid res for weeks at a time. I've replaced a few bottles in the years since. It's pricey stuff but it's really allowed me the freedom that I wanted out of hydro. I gots kids, man, and I can't be down there dinking with my mixes every day.
 
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