Zen Garden 2025

[Zen_seeker]

awesome!!!!!! i mean that why we do all the scale stuff to make it look real!!!

To be fair I didn’t have my glasses on. I didn’t see a plate so put them on. That’s when I had the duh moment. The trailer hitch looks wrong so gave it away.

Change that a bit and put a plate on and it’s good to go.

 

[Zen_seeker]

While I had a minute to think about it I noticed that the test tube stand looked about the same size as a Kleenex tissue box.

When I placed it on top it looks like it would fit inside. If I remember correctly some people buy display boxes or cases to hide them. Dollar store might have something.

Pretty sure a lunch box, especially a soft one, would fit as well. That would give room to put packaged seeds as well.

 

[Zen_seeker]

20250112: Seedling Day 10 & 04

Got tired of waiting for the remaining seeds. Opened up the VG. Nothing wrong or off but no tails either. Nothing was soft and only one cracked under my thumb. Tossed and picked new seeds.

Just to make a change I’m doing shot glasses with half water half H2O2. Then onto the heat pad with a box cover.

Took some fun pics before switching to the box.








Small seedling is trying to get out its first set of real leaves. Bigger ones a bit fugly. I misted both a couple days ago with H2O2.


Wife and son decided we need two Dummy 13 for each tent. I’ve agreed only if that’s it. No more. Stop animating is a pita. Lol
But I have a few ideas for when the plants get big.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Still waiting…

 

[Pipecarver]

Hey, seeds should be in the dark while in the water. At least that's something I read years ago and have stuck with it, same as in the sealed container, I have mine in a sealed box in my veg tent to keep warm but in the dark.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Hey, seeds should be in the dark while in the water. At least that's something I read years ago and have stuck with it, same as in the sealed container, I have mine in a sealed box in my veg tent to keep warm but in the dark.

No worries. I put a box over them with the far corner up a few millimeters. I just take it off to check or take a pic. That’s why they are tight together. Box is a few pics up.

Temperature is around 78f at 9am.

Edit: This is at lights out ATM but the box stays on unless I’m checking for tails.

 

[steamroller]

Had not noticed there will be women in the trees also.
Nice~!

 

[Zen_seeker]

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Had not noticed there will be women in the trees also.
Nice~!

That was part of my wife’s contribution. She liked my idea so had my son print her a pair and me the two ladies.

She almost took them away from me after I posed them on the coffee table after dinner.

 

[Zen_seeker]

My wife’s Dummy 13’s.



Still waiting on the seeds. All sunk when I added a bit more water with a syringe but only one stayed down. We’ll look at planting tonight after lights on.


The newest seedling is looking good. Out of danger I think. Older ones fine other than peroxide stains.

It’s time to feed them tonight. The heat pad really adds to the trays evaporation.

Feed Mix:
.30ml 4:0:0
.70ml 2:2:4
500ml water
Which is a little less than the chart notes.

Never shared nutes with seedlings at different stages. Debating if it’s better to syringe feed the bigger one and water the tray or just use the feed mix to water the tray?

Any advice or opinions welcome.

 

[Pipecarver]

My wife’s Dummy 13’s.
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Still waiting on the seeds. All sunk when I added a bit more water with a syringe but only one stayed down. We’ll look at planting tonight after lights on. View attachment 86632


The newest seedling is looking good. Out of danger I think. Older ones fine other than peroxide stains. View attachment 86633

It’s time to feed them tonight. The heat pad really adds to the trays evaporation.

Feed Mix:
.30ml 4:0:0
.70ml 2:2:4
500ml water
Which is a little less than the chart notes.

Never shared nutes with seedlings at different stages. Debating if it’s better to syringe feed the bigger one and water the tray or just use the feed mix to water the tray?

Any advice or opinions welcome.

Hey, What soil are you in? In Promix/peat based mixes I don't feed for almost 1 month. I transplant after 10 days -2 weeks into 1 gal pots they get a fresh wash of a starter charge in the soil when I saturate during transplant. The day of this pic was my first feed at 28 days old with the fkin

When I do start feeding I'm at 3/3/3/3/5/ 1/2tsp ml/gal Micro/Grow/Bloom/Diamond Nectar/Peroxide/Epsom salts
cabbage patch hermi front right

 

[Zen_seeker]

Hey, What soil are you in?

Older version of Sunshine Mix #4. It’s just peat, perlite and Dolomite lime iirc.

In Promix/peat based mixes I don't feed for almost 1 month. I transplant after 10 days -2 weeks into 1 gal pots they get a fresh wash of a starter charge in the soil when I saturate during transplant. The day of this pic was my first feed at 28 days old with the fkin

I wait until I get a second set of true leaves then start watching for any yellow or deficiencies. I used to use water bottles and then red cups with clear inside to germinate but these new containers are much smaller so I’m learning again.

I can’t see the roots this way and it’s really made it hard to know when to feed. But I should be able to read the plants by now, you’d think.

When I do start feeding I'm at 3/3/3/3/5/ 1/2tsp ml/gal Micro/Grow/Bloom/Diamond Nectar/Peroxide/Epsom salts
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I’m still using the chart for the KIND Trio nutrients. I just cut them back when I can. They were discontinued here so I’ll have to change once I run out. I bought enough on sale to get threw at least this year.

You use GH don’t you? I almost went with them until I saw mine on sale for $25 for three one litre bottles, regular was $75+.

It sounds like you think we should wait a bit longer before feeding the bigger plant. It’s about two weeks old. It’s a little fugly but no yellow yet so we’ll go water again and save the feeding for later.

I’ll talk it over with my son tonight and see how he wants to proceed. I want him thinking about things and making the choices, not just following orders/directions.

Thanks PC.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Just an update on the Lobo vape that replaced our Utillian.

It’s been over a year, more like 18 months, and we still like it. It’s draw with the included glass is okay but with the longer straw or the bubbler it’s much nicer.

It’s used daily at 390* for 4 minutes including 30 second warmups. It’s our go to device as we don’t smoke flower in the house.

We get at least 5 sessions out of each usb-c charge. But I have other 18650 batteries I can swap in. I use the capsules so clean up is easy. ISO wipe for the oven, some times for real sticky capsules, then a cloth which cleans the rest. Capsules I usually do with a pick over a container to dump later. In true slacker form I usually clean them in a group and just keep changing them out. We have 13. lol

I’ve read about and experienced a charging issue. In my experience when the device is colder than 19* it fails to switch over to charge mode unless you push it in and pull it out a few times. If warm it’s never a issue. I don’t recall when this started.

Cleaning the glass, screen and bubbler is all done in a Mason jar of ISO over night. A cheat I do for cleaning the screen each session is to push a paper towel against it which absorbs most of the resin while things are still hot and runny. A lot collects at the bottom of the straw over time as well. Just pull it out and wipe it off. Running it under hot water will extend its use as well. Obviously how often it needs to be deep cleaned will depend on use.

For the money we all agree it’s been a good purchase and still performs well, has good taste, is easy to clean and has been reliable up to this point.

 

[Zen_seeker]

20250115: Seedling Day 13 & 7

Shot glasses all had swollen seeds. Two had cracked with one having a hair coming out. Two sunk but came back up later. So we transplanted.

So just the germination tray with two plants and three seeds. Hoping we get two more seedlings by next week.

Watered the tray today after leaving it dry a few days.

Water bowl is changed daily and damp rag resoaked two to three times daily. So far this has kept things between 50-70RH depending on outside environment.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Son and I used our pipes today. He uses his often but I’m vaping inside most days until April.

I was about to clean them when I thought this filter idea might be useful to someone else.

I didn’t have a screen handy after losing my last one outside so I tried something else. I used a Raw thin filter. Really doesn’t filter so much as stop bits from going into your mouth with a joint so I figured why not try it. Funny, fits perfectly. Works so well son uses one too now. Not sure if he’s still got the screen in as well. I just leave the end out slightly to make it easier to remove later.



Only tried it a few times this winter but no issues so far. I’ll change the filter if I ever pass it around, this is my pipe, but I expect it will get off tasting after a few uses and need to be changed anyway.

Reminds me of an old in-line filter used for some tobacco pipes. Man they would get gross.

Edit: Son confirmed he’s not using a screen now. No need.

 

[Pipecarver]

Son and I used our pipes today. He uses his often but I’m vaping inside most days until April.

I was about to clean them when I thought this filter idea might be useful to someone else.

I didn’t have a screen handy after losing my last one outside so I tried something else. I used a Raw thin filter. Really doesn’t filter so much as stop bits from going into your mouth with a joint so I figured why not try it. Funny, fits perfectly. Works so well son uses one too now. Not sure if he’s still got the screen in as well. I just leave the end out slightly to make it easier to remove later.

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Only tried it a few times this winter but no issues so far. I’ll change the filter if I ever pass it around, this is my pipe, but I expect it will get off tasting after a few uses and need to be changed anyway.

Reminds me of an old in-line filter used for some tobacco pipes. Man they would get gross.

I did make some with the first hole the same size as a cigarette filter. I used them that way for a bit too but gave that up for some reason. I'm glad to see you're still getting use out of them.

I have all but 1 up and growing. One had a small tail and I planted it but its not moving. Looks like 10 so far. I should have enough fems to fill the tent.

My wife has gone deaf, 100% in one ear and about 90% in the other since Christmas. We've been in and out of the hospital and getting hearing tests this week. Not sure why, we see a specialist next week and she's on steroids now to see if they can clear what may be a blockage behind her canals. Plus she has a cough at night & today but they don't want to relate the ear problem to the cough.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I did make some with the first hole the same size as a cigarette filter. I used them that way for a bit too but gave that up for some reason. I'm glad to see you're still getting use out of them.

Absolutely. My sons already told me I have to look after “his” pipe so it’s in good condition for him when I die.

It’s his go to for hash. He smokes weed out of mine when I invite him but on his own it’s always his bong.

Wife’s big on joints. But she still smokes cigarettes. I prefer vape unless I want a harder hit. Then it’s a joint or pipe depending.

I have all but 1 up and growing. One had a small tail and I planted it but its not moving. Looks like 10 so far. I should have enough fems to fill the tent.

Nice. You’re doing better than we are at the moment but I have hope for at least two of the seeds.

My wife has gone deaf, 100% in one ear and about 90% in the other since Christmas. We've been in and out of the hospital and getting hearing tests this week. Not sure why, we see a specialist next week and she's on steroids now to see if they can clear what may be a blockage behind her canals. Plus she has a cough at night & today but they don't want to relate the ear problem to the cough.

Shit. Sorry to hear that man. It’s becoming more common these days. My one buddy had to retire early because of it. Mother and stepfather both deaf in one ear at least. (They used to sleep good ear down so as not to hear each other snore. )

I hope it’s an easy fix, flushing or antibiotics, once they figure it out.

I’m glad they are looking at both issues as separate. Should mean faster results. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Too many new and old bugs floating around these days. I fear visiting a friend or family only to learn I passed on something I caught from the hospital. Look after yourself and the Mrs.

 

[Pipecarver]

Absolutely. My sons already told me I have to look after “his” pipe so it’s in good condition for him when I die.

It’s his go to for hash. He smokes weed out of mine when I invite him but on his own it’s always his bong.

Wife’s big on joints. But she still smokes cigarettes. I prefer vape unless I want a harder hit. Then it’s a joint or pipe depending.


Nice. You’re doing better than we are at the moment but I have hope for at least two of the seeds.


Shit. Sorry to hear that man. It’s becoming more common these days. My one buddy had to retire early because of it. Mother and stepfather both deaf in one ear at least. (They used to sleep good ear down so as not to hear each other snore. )

I hope it’s an easy fix, flushing or antibiotics, once they figure it out.

I’m glad they are looking at both issues as separate. Should mean faster results. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Too many new and old bugs floating around these days. I fear visiting a friend or family only to learn I passed on something I caught from the hospital. Look after yourself and the Mrs.

lights out.............and if I shut my new door the humidity gets to high in my lung room at 6 weeks in flower I gotta keep the RH down. gotta go. later

 

[Zen_seeker]

20250117: Seedling Day 15 & 9

My ghetto humidifier still working great. Used to do this as a kid when we had window fans. Of course the windows were wood and single pane.

I’ll update when lights are on this afternoon.

 

[Pipecarver]

20250117: Seedling Day 15 & 9

My ghetto humidifier still working great. Used to do this as a kid when we had window fans. Of course the windows were wood and single pane. View attachment 87000

I’ll update when lights are on this afternoon.

Humidifiers are inexpensive, I bought 3 of these at $49 -2 for my grow and 1 for upstairs. I've had a bunch of shitty ones and these are the only ones I can easily clean with a large opening through the lid. With it on full I can get 1 day out of it before I need to refill in the am

 

[Zen_seeker]

Humidifiers are inexpensive, I bought 3 of these at $49 -2 for my grow and 1 for upstairs. I've had a bunch of shitty ones and these are the only ones I can easily clean with a large opening through the lid. With it on full I can get 1 day out of it before I need to refill in the am
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The only time I worry about it is for seedlings. Occasionally I’ll need a second plant when in veg but mostly I have high RH in the basement.

The fan I need on anyway. When a bowl of water isn’t enough in front of the fan I’ll put a cloth in it. The cloth wicks the water and the fan circulates it. It really works and keeps things in the 60-70 zone. Just need to add water twice a day.

I have one of those desk AC things someone gave me for Christmas years ago. Does the same thing but you can freeze two ice packs to swap in and out.

I just find this easier and quick to setup or remove. Fan stays while the bowl and cloth get put away.

Now for the bedroom…if wife complains about it being dry this year I’ll keep it in mind.

 

[Pipecarver]

The only time I worry about it is for seedlings. Occasionally I’ll need a second plant when in veg but mostly I have high RH in the basement.

The fan I need on anyway. When a bowl of water isn’t enough in front of the fan I’ll put a cloth in it. The cloth wicks the water and the fan circulates it. It really works and keeps things in the 60-70 zone. Just need to add water twice a day.

I have one of those desk AC things someone gave me for Christmas years ago. Does the same thing but you can freeze two ice packs to swap in and out.

I just find this easier and quick to setup or remove. Fan stays while the bowl and cloth get put away.

Now for the bedroom…if wife complains about it being dry this year I’ll keep it in mind.

I need it through veg in the winter. I like them @ 65%, warm and humid specially on seedlings and the young. I don't need to worry about them in the Autopots when I put them into flower, I get ample humidity with them. More of an issue getting my RH down with the doors closed up on my tents. I have to open the doors through the day to get the RH down, it was at 59% this am 40% with doors open 35% at my desk.

 

[Zen_seeker]

The setup is working. This is the large tent section.


This is the small seedling section.

It goes low when we leave the door open to feed and check but bounces right back up in minutes.

Roots coming out of two pot holes on the biggest seedling.

Nothing on the seeds planted 3 days ago.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I made the mistake of showing my son a cool pipe G$ had told me about. It was based on a conversation we had over dropping glass accessories or paraphernalia.

Well he ordered me one for Christmas. He knows I like pipes and I don’t share my wooden ones. I just use a metal spoon style for hash and my wooden one for weed or weed and hash mix. I have a 9” bong I don’t like the taste of either. So this was his answer. Pyptek Bubbler.







It’s a great smoke with nice hits. But not the fastest or easiest to clean. Not a fan of all the ash and solid matter that gets stuck in the top neck of the bowl.

So, not to be outdone he had to go out and buy himself a new glass bong today.



This was my wife’s favourite I brought back from Amsterdam 17 years ago. I dropped the martini glass bowl a few years ago but can’t find a replacement yet. Still hopeful though.



It’s so small the glass straw from the vape is almost a perfect fit.

 

[steamroller]

I love my Grav beaker bong.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I love my Grav beaker bong.

My wife broke his GRAV Helix mouthpiece. She has to order a new one. She’s why I have the Pyptek.

Only one I’ve broken…hers…the one above. I picked it up, while it was still hot, and let go.

 

[GoodShit97]

Oooh he's gonna like that Grav bong. They make really nice stuff. I love my grav bongs the most lol.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Oooh he's gonna like that Grav bong. They make really nice stuff. I love my grav bongs the most lol.

So far so good. I haven’t tried it yet but he’s hit it a few times with his mom.

 

[GoodShit97]

So far so good. I haven’t tried it yet but he’s hit it a few times with his mom.

It inspired me to clean my hash bong last night. Not a Grav, but its my next favorite glass company, Glasslab 303 out of Colorado. I have 5 bongs from them lol.

 

[Zen_seeker]

It inspired me to clean my hash bong last night. Not a Grav, but its my next favorite glass company, Glasslab 303 out of Colorado. I have 5 bongs from them lol. View attachment 87215

Stop showing us pictures. Now he’s saying he could use a good hash bubbler!

 

[GoodShit97]

Stop showing us pictures. Now he’s saying he could use a good hash bubbler!

Lol I was about 20 when I started my collection too