Zen Garden 2025

[Zen_seeker]

Hey, I've never had much success using the tops for clones. That's one reason I started topping early to get side shoots that I could clone from.

Clones I have good luck with. I take the tops because I cut it off anyway. Basically if I have to cut something off anyway I’ll see if it will grow roots. Whenever I lollipop, clear air paths or just thin out the foliage I see if anything is good enough to keep.

Years ago with 1 precious seed I'd top it then take cuts at about 6 weeks old and grow them out with the mom, took me 6 months but I'd get 6-7-8 plants off the 1 seed to harvest and a large ugly mom flowering I didn't know how to look after.

After my first set of seeds I grew to flower I started practicing cloning. In water, in soil, then with rooting powder and finally rooting gel.

It was so easy I would toss branches in the water coffee can I use for adding humidity and in a week it would have nice roots.

Then a buddy told me we have a four plant limit.

So now I mostly grow clones as I only had the one strain until last year or so.

I knew nothing of RH, PH or PPM and after 6 months mom was pretty sad looking and grew pretty crappy airy buds. Kids were okay but still airy & nothing like today's weed I grow. I really didn't have a clue. I had 1 light, a 1000w hps, I vegged, cloned and flowered under it, in a 5ft high room, cramped, hiding in a cave, banging my head on ducting, cold with lights out and no air movement...lol....

I never really had a mother plant. More perpetual grow type style.

Prior I started with seeds from a buddy. Grew them like window plants. Then took them in/out each day as they got bigger. Then saw a great deal on grow lights just before the first plant started flowering. (To be honest I think I made it reveg taking it in and out each day.) So I put them in a corner and hung the light above.

Little by little I get better. Buy stuff as we can, if it’s needed. Now I just hope it all lasts long enough to make the purchases worth it.

I knew about some gardening things from helping family over the years but never cared much about it. Some of it stuck. Some of it was new. PPM or EC never mattered. But at times I check it now. Same for PH. I use the same stuff over and over so when I checked originally it was okay. Now I just repeat until I have an issue. That’s usually because I changed something thinking it would improve the harvest.

Things really took off when a few years later I got maybe 100 seeds off a friend, some hermied or went on me as I knew nothing of light leaks, some were males that contaminated my crops before I knew what the fk was going on. Were talking 35 odd years ago, I wouldn't dare look online for fear the man would track me to my home and raid me in the middle of the night.

I started because a buddy gave me over 100 seeds. My wife wanted to learn how to grow vegetables at home so I set her up. He saw that and just gave me the seeds. I remember saying; “Don’t expect me to get a light or tent or anything. I’m not into gardening.”

It was already legal here and I figured it couldn’t be to much harder than tomatoes, right?
The internet helped and hurt by the time I was ready to look for help in the middle of a grow.

Some grows I do okay, others I do great. Once in a while I get a dud or screw things up. In the end I just want it to be simple and grow good weed at a reasonable cost of time, effort and money.

I found my best success with clones was just to cut scrape, dip in clonex and stick in the ground in a dome in a solo cup in saturated Promix, spray dome and clones twice a day at 78 ish F.

That’s pretty much the way I do the soil clones in my red cups. Even the scrape about an inch above the cut down. I also add powder after the gel because I already have it. This is when I’m really trying to get clones.

If I’m mucking around or testing things and don’t need a clone I’ll try in water. I seem to have good luck. Our water is around 155ppm and they use chloramine. I change out the tap water weekly and don’t add anything else.

The two reasons I made this clone was to test the neoprene puck and to see if I could grow one in a shot glass. Just need a light blocker for the roots.

I’m sure I’ve stolen a few ideas from you in the past as well as others. Heck the paper towel trick I learned in school with tomato seeds. But it’s how I first popped seeds my first year.

Here’s hoping my shotglass clone works out. Otherwise only my son will have plants this grow.

 

[Pipecarver]

Clones I have good luck with. I take the tops because I cut it off anyway. Basically if I have to cut something off anyway I’ll see if it will grow roots. Whenever I lollipop, clear air paths or just thin out the foliage I see if anything is good enough to keep.


After my first set of seeds I grew to flower I started practicing cloning. In water, in soil, then with rooting powder and finally rooting gel.

It was so easy I would toss branches in the water coffee can I use for adding humidity and in a week it would have nice roots.

Then a buddy told me we have a four plant limit.

So now I mostly grow clones as I only had the one strain until last year or so.


I never really had a mother plant. More perpetual grow type style.

Prior I started with seeds from a buddy. Grew them like window plants. Then took them in/out each day as they got bigger. Then saw a great deal on grow lights just before the first plant started flowering. (To be honest I think I made it reveg taking it in and out each day.) So I put them in a corner and hung the light above.

Little by little I get better. Buy stuff as we can, if it’s needed. Now I just hope it all lasts long enough to make the purchases worth it.

I knew about some gardening things from helping family over the years but never cared much about it. Some of it stuck. Some of it was new. PPM or EC never mattered. But at times I check it now. Same for PH. I use the same stuff over and over so when I checked originally it was okay. Now I just repeat until I have an issue. That’s usually because I changed something thinking it would improve the harvest.


I started because a buddy gave me over 100 seeds. My wife wanted to learn how to grow vegetables at home so I set her up. He saw that and just gave me the seeds. I remember saying; “Don’t expect me to get a light or tent or anything. I’m not into gardening.”

It was already legal here and I figured it couldn’t be to much harder than tomatoes, right?
The internet helped and hurt by the time I was ready to look for help in the middle of a grow.

Some grows I do okay, others I do great. Once in a while I get a dud or screw things up. In the end I just want it to be simple and grow good weed at a reasonable cost of time, effort and money.


That’s pretty much the way I do the soil clones in my red cups. Even the scrape about an inch above the cut down. I also add powder after the gel because I already have it. This is when I’m really trying to get clones.

If I’m mucking around or testing things and don’t need a clone I’ll try in water. I seem to have good luck. Our water is around 155ppm and they use chloramine. I change out the tap water weekly and don’t add anything else.

The two reasons I made this clone was to test the neoprene puck and to see if I could grow one in a shot glass. Just need a light blocker for the roots.

I’m sure I’ve stolen a few ideas from you in the past as well as others. Heck the paper towel trick I learned in school with tomato seeds. But it’s how I first popped seeds my first year.

Here’s hoping my shotglass clone works out. Otherwise only my son will have plants this grow.

Its -12c here atm and it's supposed to go down as low as -20c with wind chill tonight....That's fkin snappy and I'm not a big fan of this winter sht to begin with. If it wasn't for weed 3 happy cats and a warm wife.....I'd be living down south somewhere....lol..

 

[OLDCRO]

Got up this morning and it was -27. Didnt take long for my two dogs to do there business and start rapping on the door.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Plants are still trying. Clone looks good and keeping its colour. Lights are out until 1pm but humidity and temp are good until then.

Looks like both seeds popped at dinner time yesterday. Had to spin the right one 180*.

Today the right ones great but the left has stalled.

I just hope the warmer temps last until I can put them in the pots. Only -2*c this morning.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Going to try mailing weed to a friend this weekend. Not sure how it works past buying the weed bag for $17. I assume weight or location is added on top of that?

Four strains at 7g each. Some got vacuumed tighter than others.

If it’s cheap enough I’ll do this for two other buddies who live more than 2-3 hours away. They can’t drive any more and only make it to the city for doctors appointments and stuff like that.

Coffee time! ️

 

[Zen_seeker]

Got lucky. The 9 cell seed propagation tray with pots fit a shot glass perfectly.

Lights on the small section is holding in the mid 80’s for RH and mid 70f/20c for temperature. 23.5c currently.



The clone drank a third of the glass so far. I’ll have to watch that. If things go well I should see roots in a week or so. Faster if it stays warm.

This will be a nice way to start small clones going forward. I’ll still use red cups for larger ones and more mature branches. Just nice to try new things with what I already have.