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The Fuckin' Bruce Bugbee Thread.

the "cannabis grow lighting myths and faq" video


"you can even push a cutting with high light, as long as the other inputs are not limiting"
coinciding with "DLI" of course.

i was literally just contemplating this last night or today, ii must have glanced over this detail when i first watched it.
those infinitesimally obvious details......


you can supply them water and nutrients through the canopy if no root system, so why not?

and here this legend is saying its possible.
 
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Professor @Utah State, inventor of Apogee instruments, I believe. PAR & ePAR, DLI, spectrum studies galore. I have given a seedling recently 300 par after transplant. The reason growing is fun, research. We all do it. Cheers Observer SSgrower
 
en.wikipedia.org

Bruce Bugbee - Wikipedia

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Bruce Bugbee has studied recirculating hydroponics since the 1980s and has used the principles to create self-sustaining ecosystems. He has focused his study of hydroponics partially on use for long-term space missions.
In his work on developing crop sustainability for long-term space missions, Bugbee additionally focuses on nutritional needs for space explorers, determining how many different crops would be needed to sustain life. He also states that gravity is needed in order for plants to grow properly.

Bugbee has worked with NASA in his research on regenerative systems and the effects of microgravity on plants. He first began working with NASA upon his arrival at Utah State University in 1981. He was a part of the team to first grow crops on the International Space Station. This work has expanded to include lettuce and radishes. Bugbee’s work with NASA also includes the development of crop growing systems for future life on the Moon and Mars in addition to in orbit or in space shuttles.

When the film The Martian was released in 2015, Bugbee supported the idea that crops could be grown on Mars using similar methods to those used in the book and movie so long as proper composting methods were utilized. He has worked on projects for Mars farming including the use of fiber optics for indoor lighting. As a part of this research, Bugbee was involved in the 2017 creation of the $15 million Space Technology Research Institute "Center for the Utilization of Biological Engineering in Space."
 
I gotta say, prior to about 12 months ago, I'd never heard of this guy, that I can recall.
Prior to about a week ago, I didn't realize what a tremendous resource this guy has been.
I'm totally impressed with this guy.
I've been going through these vids for a few days now and every now and then, he mentions something almost as a tangent to his point, those really open up a lot of answers for me.

Thank you for gathering this resource together!
 
Try Harley Smith also, this Bugbee I have watched for 1 1/2 years only myself. As led tech advanced he was front and center as he made the Epar&par test equipment Appogee. I research daily as being indoors is new to me, now almost 3 years indoors. VPD,par,pH, EC. Lot to assimilate. SSgrower
 
TomH said:
I gotta say, prior to about 12 months ago, I'd never heard of this guy, that I can recall.
Prior to about a week ago, I didn't realize what a tremendous resource this guy has been.
I'm totally impressed with this guy.
I've been going through these vids for a few days now and every now and then, he mentions something almost as a tangent to his point, those really open up a lot of answers for me.

Thank you for gathering this resource together!
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thank you, no problem, my pleasure.


Heres Bruce Bugbees' cannalab tour

 
Pipecarver said:
Nice, thanks for organizing these, I haven't gone through them all yet and some are out of my league but I will. I've watch a few of his on YT and with Mr grow it and he's the reason I don't run UV.
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The uv is one of the places I disagree with him. I'm convinced it adds a little something.....plenty of conflicting views on it.
 
Driver77 said:
The uv is one of the places I disagree with him. I'm convinced it adds a little something.....plenty of conflicting views on it.
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Yes as in everything his test might not be conducted as you use your lights. I can't find info on 15 min at lights out, did he or anyone ever test what I'm doing? I think not I don't know where I read or picked it up but I see results. You as well your use maybe different than his testing giving you different results.
 
Pipecarver said:
Yes as in everything his test might not be conducted as you use your lights. I can't find info on 15 min at lights out, did he or anyone ever test what I'm doing? I think not I don't know where I read or picked it up but I see results. You as well your use maybe different than his testing giving you different results.
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I've been running the far reds the last 3 nights at lights out, I unplugged them this am. I got the extra height I wanted now I want them to stop. I hope I haven't set off a growth spurt more than I wanted.
 
Pipecarver said:
Nice, thanks for organizing these, I haven't gone through them all yet and some are out of my league but I will. I've watch a few of his on YT and with Mr grow it and he's the reason I don't run UV.
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Driver77 said:
The uv is one of the places I disagree with him. I'm convinced it adds a little something.....plenty of conflicting views on it.
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I take his UV talk with a grain of salt and far from absolute fact or gospel.
UV is very tricky. Not all sources are equal. He didn't show what he used and how he used it leaving me with questions. It's one thing to introduce 395 to 420 nm to a grow, it's a whole other issue between sourcing and power of it.
For example, floro and LED might both 400nm but they're two totally different animals in regards to height over target, coverage, and power used to deploy it.
I could use a 40 watt reptile light and conclude it doesn't do anything. I could also use a 70 watt LED array and conclude it works every time all the time. The more people use it the more we'll find what's the best source and how to best apply it to get benefit from it.
Already, aside from xtra resin claims, I've found one of it's benefits is making a garden less desirable to pests. I'm about 60/40 on it increasing potency but around 95% on it's effectiveness to deter pests.
 
Bandit420 said:
I take his UV talk with a grain of salt and far from absolute fact or gospel.
UV is very tricky. Not all sources are equal. He didn't show what he used and how he used it leaving me with questions. It's one thing to introduce 395 to 420 nm to a grow, it's a whole other issue between sourcing and power of it.
For example, floro and LED might both 400nm but they're two totally different animals in regards to height over target, coverage, and power used to deploy it.
I could use a 40 watt reptile light and conclude it doesn't do anything. I could also use a 70 watt LED array and conclude it works every time all the time. The more people use it the more we'll find what's the best source and how to best apply it to get benefit from it.
Already, aside from xtra resin claims, I've found one of it's benefits is making a garden less desirable to pests. I'm about 60/40 on it increasing potency but around 95% on it's effectiveness to deter pests.
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A grain of salt yes but when an expert of his caliber speaks its best to listen. The UV learning curve also scares me a bit so with his influence and my hesitation to use them I let the expert make the decision for me so I could back away gracefully.
 
Bandit420 said:
I take his UV talk with a grain of salt and far from absolute fact or gospel.
UV is very tricky. Not all sources are equal. He didn't show what he used and how he used it leaving me with questions. It's one thing to introduce 395 to 420 nm to a grow, it's a whole other issue between sourcing and power of it.
For example, floro and LED might both 400nm but they're two totally different animals in regards to height over target, coverage, and power used to deploy it.
I could use a 40 watt reptile light and conclude it doesn't do anything. I could also use a 70 watt LED array and conclude it works every time all the time. The more people use it the more we'll find what's the best source and how to best apply it to get benefit from it.
Already, aside from xtra resin claims, I've found one of it's benefits is making a garden less desirable to pests. I'm about 60/40 on it increasing potency but around 95% on it's effectiveness to deter pests.
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i agree

i really dont think the studies have been done that encompass all the possible variables, genetics being the main one.



regardless with cannabinoid benefits hard data, we still have 'hard data" that UV is effective against microbes for example.

sterility sake
 
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