Stoney grows Honey Fried Bananas in RDWC SCROG

[GrumpAzz]

What are you guys using the heat your water in the winter?

I haven't had to but I think Stoney uses an aquarium heater, or plans to.

Keeping my tent around 80 keeps my water temps while up allowing my chiller to run much less.

My basement stays roughly the same temps throughout the year.

 

[Max]

crazy how just a few weeks ago i couldn't grow a plant past two weeks... i think these plants are going to be great for scrog, i can't wait!!!

https://imgur.com/a/O59W9uD

nice growth stoney…Edward scissor hands would love those…

 

[Bandit420]

Well look who just got into your rear view mirror in the pool!!!
You got a comfy lead out front and I'm back here fender fighting with the top 5 but I'm coming!
This is about to get nuts man. I've got Bell at Bristol and Briscoe at Loudon. But gawd damn it then I've got fucking Gibbs at Nashville, Dinger at Roval, Busch at Vegas and Haley at 'Dega so I might get to your bumper then you'll see this in the rear view

 

[Stoneyluv]

Yeah in a pinch.

This was when I used Lotus nutes. They were much more of a pain to mix. I haven't had to with Athena's. Now it only takes maybe 10 or 20 minutes to mix a batch after it's filled. So really, if I have the time to top it up, I probably have the time to mix a batch.

My work schedule isn't nearly as chaotic as it was last summer, also. So maybe it had nothing to do with the Nutes.

i got ya now, i understand. i almost forgot about the lotus nutes.. were those the nutes that were all stinky when you first mixed them?

What are you guys using the heat your water in the winter?

i have an aquarium heater in there.. my system holds 25 gallons and i used a heater spec'd for 200 gal.

it's in there now but not plugged in. my water will get in the low 60's without it. maybe even lower now that ii've insulated the buckets.

nice growth stoney…Edward scissor hands would love those…

i can't wait to get in there and shave their legs!!! when i lower the cage down i'll trim everything back.. it's gonna be a lot!!!!

Well look who just got into your rear view mirror in the pool!!!
You got a comfy lead out front and I'm back here fender fighting with the top 5 but I'm coming!
This is about to get nuts man. I've got Bell at Bristol and Briscoe at Loudon. But gawd damn it then I've got fucking Gibbs at Nashville, Dinger at Roval, Busch at Vegas and Haley at 'Dega so I might get to your bumper then you'll see this in the rear view

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oh shit!! i didn't even realize you were right there!!!! damn, thats freakin awesome man!!!! i hope we can duke it out door to door for the rest of the year!!!!

this saturday i got the douche nozzle... next week i got the douche lagano, then byron, SVG for the roval, Larson at vegas, bowman next, and then Blaney and Reddick to bring it all home...

i have no idea whats gonna happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cool as hell being one an two though!!! can't wait to see how it plays out... i can hear my spotter in my ear, he's about 50 back.. keep up your pace.. all out front, hit your marks!! hahahaha

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took it out in the sun today... all shiny new!!!!! i ended up putting all the window decals on for now,,

https://imgur.com/a/wvsyvI6

 

[GrumpAzz]

i got ya now, i understand. i almost forgot about the lotus nutes.. were those the nutes that were all stinky when you first mixed them?

Haha yep. The plants LOVED them. Me... not so much. They stunk and didn't dissolve worth a damn.

That video cracked my shit up

 

[Stoneyluv]

Haha yep. The plants LOVED them. Me... not so much. They stunk and didn't dissolve worth a damn.

That video cracked my shit up

yea, thanks for trying those out and letting us all know!!! hehe

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that video was all funny till i realized i put a freakin hole in the water jug the camera was on.. that was my favorite water jug for the chickens!!! dammit!! haha still a little funny...

 

[Observer]

crazy how just a few weeks ago i couldn't grow a plant past two weeks... i think these plants are going to be great for scrog, i can't wait!!!

https://imgur.com/a/O59W9uD

Did you figure out the issue?

Plants look good

I'd trim em up for flower , use a screen or net

 

[Observer]

I'd personally have fun trimming the fuck out of them bitches, flipping and watch them monster out.

God I miss my plants

 

[Stoneyluv]

Did you figure out the issue?

Plants look good

not 100% just yet, it was one of four things... could be my homemade ph up and down, at one point i did in fact have something in my water so maybe when i made the gallons worth i used that bad water?? TBD...

so up is #1 down is #2, almost the same was the buffer agsil16 that i also pre mixed in that same water.. could be #3..

#4 is easy to determine, it was possible that is was my heater... i just put it back in about a week ago so if everything goes to shit in the next week or two than it's possible its something in there. i know i'm splitting hairs here and really reaching for the answer but man those are THE only four things i changed between the horror and now.. i mean wtf?! right?

I'd personally have fun trimming the fuck out of them bitches, flipping and watch them monster out.

God I miss my plants

i will enjoy it!!! i have a plan too... i'm gonna put some of the solution in a spare bucket and set it on a low table right in front of a comphy chair and lollipop away!!!!

i think that moment might be the very last time i get to see the roots. once the cage is on i'm not sure i'll be able to lift the lid anymore!! i have a tiny snake camera i could weasel i there though!!! haha

 

[doublej]

Hey man, how tall are you letting your plants grow up, before you scrog?

 

[Zen_seeker]

not 100% just yet, it was one of four things... could be my homemade ph up and down, at one point i did in fact have something in my water so maybe when i made the gallons worth i used that bad water?? TBD...

so up is #1 down is #2, almost the same was the buffer agsil16 that i also pre mixed in that same water.. could be #3..

#4 is easy to determine, it was possible that is was my heater... i just put it back in about a week ago so if everything goes to shit in the next week or two than it's possible its something in there. i know i'm splitting hairs here and really reaching for the answer but man those are THE only four things i changed between the horror and now.. i mean wtf?! right?



i will enjoy it!!! i have a plan too... i'm gonna put some of the solution in a spare bucket and set it on a low table right in front of a comphy chair and lollipop away!!!!

i think that moment might be the very last time i get to see the roots. once the cage is on i'm not sure i'll be able to lift the lid anymore!! i have a tiny snake camera i could weasel i there though!!! haha

Besides that garden stool I have a large exercise ball. The type they use for rehab or physio.

It’s good as a stool too but takes up more space. But if I lie down on it I can super man the back of the tent under the net/table. Easier than getting up off the floor.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Hey man, how tall are you letting your plants grow up, before you scrog?

aiming for at least 25" from the base. my screen is 19" above the base of the plant. i won't lower the cage till they 6" above that...

got about another foot to go yet.... hehe

Besides that garden stool I have a large exercise ball. The type they use for rehab or physio.

It’s good as a stool too but takes up more space. But if I lie down on it I can super man the back of the tent under the net/table. Easier than getting up off the floor.

oh man we need a video of that one!!!!! haha i was thinking maybe a creeper from the garage but i like your idea better!!!! i could see me getting stuck under there!!!! hahaha

it's gonna be almost a meter from the floor, seems like enough room to get under but still low enough to reach over top.

i kept trying to find a reason why i wouldn't like doing this scrog and just can't find one yet... i'm rolling with it!!! -- ball chair-- rolling with it.. C'mon!!!!

 

[Zen_seeker]

aiming for at least 25" from the base. my screen is 19" above the base of the plant. i won't lower the cage till they 6" above that...

got about another foot to go yet.... hehe

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oh man we need a video of that one!!!!! haha i was thinking maybe a creeper from the garage but i like your idea better!!!! i could see me getting stuck under there!!!! hahaha

it's gonna be almost a meter from the floor, seems like enough room to get under but still low enough to reach over top.

i kept trying to find a reason why i wouldn't like doing this scrog and just can't find one yet... i'm rolling with it!!! -- ball chair-- rolling with it.. C'mon!!!!

It’s nice because I leave it a little low so it’s softer. Let’s me lean sideways more and not try to tip me. I do it upside down as well. Feels good on the bad back. But I have the small table or a cane to use to sit back up when doing it upside down.

Tip: put on sunglasses before doing this! PITA if you forget.

 

[doublej]

aiming for at least 25" from the base. my screen is 19" above the base of the plant. i won't lower the cage till they 6" above that...

got about another foot to go yet.... hehe

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oh man we need a video of that one!!!!! haha i was thinking maybe a creeper from the garage but i like your idea better!!!! i could see me getting stuck under there!!!! hahaha

it's gonna be almost a meter from the floor, seems like enough room to get under but still low enough to reach over top.

i kept trying to find a reason why i wouldn't like doing this scrog and just can't find one yet... i'm rolling with it!!! -- ball chair-- rolling with it.. C'mon!!!!

K ...soo I'm going to guess that it doesn't matter the the distance from the base to the screen? Length above the screen is the important part?
Or is there another factor that dictates here?

I was wondering if it's worth my time doing or if it's just a trestle show like last time it's super crap time? Hum?

 

[Zen_seeker]

K ...soo I'm going to guess that it doesn't matter the the distance from the base to the screen? Length above the screen is the important part?
Or is there another factor that dictates here?

I was wondering if it's worth my time doing or if it's just a trestle show like last time it's super crap time? Hum?

If you mean what’s the distance from the bar of the plant to the top of the table/net yes it does matter.

CG noted it earlier and iirc Stony echoed it. It’s lower for Indica.

Regardless which strain you need to have the plant about 6” taller than the net height so it pushes/crushes down the plant. If you let it grow into the plant that’s trellising.

This is just a quick reply. Not an exact statement.

 

[doublej]

If you mean what’s the distance from the bar of the plant to the top of the table/net yes it does matter.

CG noted it earlier and iirc Stony echoed it. It’s lower for Indica.

Regardless which strain you need to have the plant about 6” taller than the net height so it pushes/crushes down the plant. If you let it grow into the plant that’s trellising.

This is just a quick reply. Not an exact statement

I I think I remember was it like 9 10 inches or something I can't remember where I saw

 

[Stoneyluv]

yea what he said ^^^^

K ...soo I'm going to guess that it doesn't matter the the distance from the base to the screen? Length above the screen is the important part?
Or is there another factor that dictates here?

I was wondering if it's worth my time doing or if it's just a trestle show like last time it's super crap time? Hum?

that overall height comes from Granny's experience of how tall the plant should be so that when stretch it over it fills out the screen. the extra growth is to put pressure and a little stress on the plant to redirect it's efforts in growth.

i'm new to it so i'll learn as well.. back when i started all this i asked Granny to help me, then i had all those issues and i've had her on retainer ever since!! haha now that things are back on track she's gonna guide me through the rest. she's flipping her's very soon and will shoot a video of it..

so i lower the screen, trim the bottom leaves, do a change out to flowering nutes, and flip the lights all on the same day.

right now i'm only at 25R -50W- 50B on the lights.. these are the Gen1 one you have. one one hahaha!! so on that day i'll also pump up the red!!

It’s nice because I leave it a little low so it’s softer. Let’s me lean sideways more and not try to tip me. I do it upside down as well. Feels good on the bad back. But I have the small table or a cane to use to sit back up when doing it upside down.

Tip: put on sunglasses before doing this! PITA if you forget.

i'm down for it... sound like fun!!!! i actually have one of those balls somewhere around... i bought it years ago when i was gonna make a cement pizza oven... don't ask!!! i need to find that ball and blow it up!!!! kabooom!!!! haha

 

[Stoneyluv]

being a little ballsy here.. unproven float being left unattended for twenty minutes or so.. i ran a real screw into the drum to hold that bracket on though!!



making my uppers high test is working out really good for increasing my EC... with top off's it's been going up 10 ppm every day. i'm now up to 750. this is what GH chart shows bare minimum for the age on the "light feed" chart. this is the most ppm i've thrown at them to date. once i get to where i think enough is enough i'm going to top off the upper with water till it matches and let that top off holding steady.

but i hope i didn't fuck that mix up, @GrumpAzz i been meaning to ask you man, when i mixed this ten gallons up i forgot to add the cal/mag.. i had the recipe writen down and everything and forgot to write in the cal/mag.. i realized it after i was totally done and went and added it anyway like ten minutes later.. is this a huge no no? i just now remembered to ask you when i peeked in on the uppers and saw some schmeg along along the solution level.. you think thats from the cal/mag not blended properly?



i can't believe i screwed that up to, right when everything is going good.. it's only that small amount so it's no biggie if you think i should toss it? plants aren't upset... with switching vessels and that i can't really eye ball the volume being used.

one thing i know i'll be doing in that white top off is making gallon graduation marks on the inside so i can tell exactly how many gallons or in it and was in it.

 

[doublej]

So does it work? Hey man my plants are already over your target, sooooooo...I'll probably SC=TRELLIS...
On one side, and figure out the cuttings in that cube......

OH SHIT.... dammit just remembered I've got a hundred of those benders trainers things, I'll do that & double trellis

I'll follow you along here, and maybe get something going with your clones...

 

[Stoneyluv]

So does it work? Hey man my plants are already over your target, sooooooo...I'll probably SC=TRELLIS...
On one side, and figure out the cuttings in that cube......

OH SHIT.... dammit just remembered I've got a hundred of those benders trainers things, I'll do that & double trellis

I'll follow you along here, and maybe get something going with your clones...

Granny said even more the better on that distance!! she runs two different height screens. short plants get the 19" and the tall ones get a 24" tall screen (from the base of the plant)

she followed with 25" tall before the screen but more was even better, i'm sure thats within reason but not out of possibility for you.

i've never done this so all new to me.. the scrog or the hydro for the most part..