Stoney grows Honey Fried Bananas in RDWC SCROG

[doublej]

Alright.....mine are about 30ich from the base. I don't have my net set at ...just topped bushes... afraid I've got to many for that space, well just seeing what I have for stretch after upcan....

 

[BlueCollarBob]

Alright.....mine are about 30ich from the base. I don't have my net set at ...just topped bushes... afraid I've got to many for that space, well just seeing what I have for stretch after upcan....

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Is that the stretchy bungee cord type on net?

 

[doublej]

Is that the stretchy bungee cord type on net?

I'm yeah it is but I've got a new set.... It doesn't stretch....
. I'll be using that if I do, I'll be using it regardless if it's a trellis or not or a scrog.....

 

[BlueCollarBob]

I'm yeah it is but I've got a new set.... It doesn't stretch....
. I'll be using that if I do, I'll be using it regardless if it's a trellis or not or a scrog.....

I had the bungee net in my little Gorilla 2X4. I sorta liked it, except where it pulled away from the tent walls. Didn't let me use all of the space like I wanted to. I think smaller squares might have been handy for spacing buds out. I had 2-3 in the same square, in a few places. I'm curious about the polypropylene stuff. I've seen others using it and it looks like something I might want to try, unless someone tells me something bad about it that I'm missing.

Example Polypropylene Netting

 

[BlueCollarBob]

I'm yeah it is but I've got a new set.... It doesn't stretch....
. I'll be using that if I do, I'll be using it regardless if it's a trellis or not or a scrog.....

Something like the trellis clips at the 9:50 mark in this video might be handy. There might be better options. I've only started thinking about it.

 

[doublej]

Something like the trellis clips at the 9:50 mark in this video might be handy. There might be better options. I've only started thinking about it.

Yeah the look handy...for a minute I thought you were talking about the trainers...

 

[GrumpAzz]

I'm curious about the polypropylene stuff. I've seen others using it and it looks like something I might want to try, unless someone tells me something bad about it that I'm missing.

That's the netting my buddy uses in their commercial rooms. Not sure if they use it because they like it or because it's cheap...

 

[Stoneyluv]

Is it a couple main branches one is looking for, to net tuck?

luckily mine are fairly even so it makes it easy for me to go with an average above.. but i think a perfect world would be not till the lowest branches reach the bottom of the screen. (i think)

You are right on! On all accounts.

@CannaGranny , i'm flipping and lowering the cage next weekend. i assume i shouldn't FIM mine? i mean what would i even fim.. there's so many tops... as you know i didn't start these for the perfect scrog, they were shoved in place!!! just working with what i got right now..

should i just lollipop and drop the screen? or should i FIM all the tops now?

 

[Zen_seeker]

Hey @Stoneyluv i find these help with maintenance and cleanup when under SCROG. Great for picking up the leaves or dropped items at the back.

 

[CannaGranny]

luckily mine are fairly even so it makes it easy for me to go with an average above.. but i think a perfect world would be not till the lowest branches reach the bottom of the screen. (i think)



@CannaGranny , i'm flipping and lowering the cage next weekend. i assume i shouldn't FIM mine? i mean what would i even fim.. there's so many tops... as you know i didn't start these for the perfect scrog, they were shoved in place!!! just working with what i got right now..

should i just lollipop and drop the screen? or should i FIM all the tops now?

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I’m not too staunch on the Fimming, I do mine as it turns one cola into three.
Im having probs with my video, but, yes, lollipop them, drop your screen atop of them. Push every branch below the table. Don’t weave them in and out of the screen, makes for a nightmare when it’s time to come off.

 

[CannaGranny]

I'm yeah it is but I've got a new set.... It doesn't stretch....
. I'll be using that if I do, I'll be using it regardless if it's a trellis or not or a scrog.....

If it stretches it’s for sure not a scrog. But, I see you know that so carry on! I do trellis my scrog tho. Once my buds hit 9” tall, I trellis.

 

[Bandit420]

Am I the only who believes it's only a matter of time before my guy here hooks up an iron lung to a ganja plant?
Like if he sees one sitting out with a For Sale sign on it, fugetaboutit.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

That's the netting my buddy uses in their commercial rooms. Not sure if they use it because they like it or because it's cheap...

I've seen more than one comment about it being cheap.so, no big loss if you have to cut it out. I've also seen a few comments about it not leaving fibers stuck to your buds like some of the nylon nets

 

[Zen_seeker]

Am I the only who believes it's only a matter of time before my guy here hooks up an iron lung to a ganja plant?
Like if he sees one sitting out with a For Sale sign on it, fugetaboutit.

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Hmm, dryer…maybe moisture extraction?

 

[Zen_seeker]

I've seen more than one comment about it being cheap.so, no big loss if you have to cut it out. I've also seen a few comments about it not leaving fibers stuck to your buds like some of the nylon nets

I used the big 6” square one to hold my outdoor grow together. Part trellis part SCROG. Worked great even in high winds and storms. Plant moved like a single unit.

 

[Max]

man i have long said i want some homing pigeons.. send buds and doob's back n forth from all over!!!!!! that would be so much fun!!!

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i think i'm still looking good to flip next weekend.....

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i cut a couple lower branches off that were never going to reach the screen so that opened the bottoms up a little.. helped with my RH a bunch!!!

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getting close though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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thanks for lookin in everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck!!!…. Now that’s a bush.youll love going down on that bush Stoney ..I bet she smells just dandy

 

[Zen_seeker]

Fuck!!!…. Now that’s a bush.youll love going down on that bush Stoney ..I bet she smells just dandy

Gardeners do like to get their fingers wet.

 

[Max]

Haha.soo true..i got so much I can add to that but cannagrannys watchin .

 

[CannaGranny]

Haha.soo true..i got so much I can add to that but cannagrannys watchin .

oh bahahahaha!

 

[Stoneyluv]

I’m not too staunch on the Fimming, I do mine as it turns one cola into three.

i understand, i might get frisky later and try a few to see. it's been many moons since i fim'd a plant. be cool to watch a few branches for future thoughts..

Im having probs with my video,

no worries at all. i've watched your others and i have kinda an idea what i need to do. my real only concern at this point is getting all the branches horizontal. i'm picturing me lowering the screen and all the tops just pop through. i assume i need to sweep them out in each direction as the screen falls to keep them horizontal?

but, yes, lollipop them, drop your screen atop of them. Push every branch below the table. Don’t weave them in and out of the screen, makes for a nightmare when it’s time to come off.

i understand, so how long do i continue to keep pushing the branches under? like how do i know when to let the plant go vertical again?

Once my buds hit 9” tall, I trellis.

thanks.. this was going to be a future question of mine!!!!

Am I the only who believes it's only a matter of time before my guy here hooks up an iron lung to a ganja plant?
Like if he sees one sitting out with a For Sale sign on it, fugetaboutit.

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ah man that would make an awesome bud trimmer!!!!!!!!!!! put the whole pant in one side and trimmed buds come out the other!!!!!!

I've seen more than one comment about it being cheap.so, no big loss if you have to cut it out. I've also seen a few comments about it not leaving fibers stuck to your buds like some of the nylon nets

i have a few of those stretchy nets too, they've always worked great for me!!!

Fuck!!!…. Now that’s a bush.youll love going down on that bush Stoney ..I bet she smells just dandy

she does Max!!! i really like sticking my face down between them both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlueCollarBob]

I used the big 6” square one to hold my outdoor grow together. Part trellis part SCROG. Worked great even in high winds and storms. Plant moved like a single unit.

I like that idea. I added some support for the outdoors plants, this year. I still need to do more. I was gone all day yesterday. So, today will be my first real assessment, but I know I took some damage during a storm we had Saturday evening.

i have a few of those stretchy nets too, they've always worked great for me!!!

My first tent grow, so who knows where I'll end up. My initial thoughts were that I would like to try smaller and I like to be able to make use of space closer to the tent walls. The bungee net I used stretched away from the walls a good bit. Maybe those cross braces like @doublej uses in his tents would give me something to secure the net to around the edges.

I have some heavy monofilament (550lb and 1,000lb) that I use for building shark leaders. I've toyed with the idea of building a frame or two and lacing it with the leader material. That might be good when I try the CG smash technique that you're going for in your grow. I want to try another round with the training clips, before I experiment with a different technique. I'm sorta drawn to the high stress training. Along the lines of what @stonemason and @GrumpAzz have been doing.

I'm excited to see what you do with that thick and shaggy canopy. It looks super healthy. So healthy that it makes me want to reach through the screen and defoliate. They've been living to easy. Time for them to grow up and learn how to adjust to a little stress, lol.

 

[CannaGranny]

i understand, i might get frisky later and try a few to see. it's been many moons since i fim'd a plant. be cool to watch a few branches for future thoughts..



no worries at all. i've watched your others and i have kinda an idea what i need to do. my real only concern at this point is getting all the branches horizontal. i'm picturing me lowering the screen and all the tops just pop through. i assume i need to sweep them out in each direction as the screen falls to keep them horizontal?

If your plant is at least six inches taller than your table when you table it they should be pushed under the screen laying longwise beneath it with nothing pulled through. By the next morning, the magic starts. The main colas will have turned up.
I open my plant up as I manipulate it to get it safely under the table, so as you say, sweep them out in each direction, like a circle.

i understand, so how long do i continue to keep pushing the branches under? like how do i know when to let the plant go vertical again?

You should not have to push your branches back under. Soon as the stretch begins they will assume a big vertical reach on their own. Sometimes prior to the stretch ending I may move a cola to another open place, but, I just push it under. It rights itself.

Look at the pics below, you will see the limbs are completely under my table top, spread out. Everything you see standing up, has done that itself.
Second pic shows you the ugly duckling turning into a swan!

thanks.. this was going to be a future question of mine!!!!



ah man that would make an awesome bud trimmer!!!!!!!!!!! put the whole pant in one side and trimmed buds come out the other!!!!!!



i have a few of those stretchy nets too, they've always worked great for me!!!



she does Max!!! i really like sticking my face down between them both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TomH]

My Fing outdoor SCrOg is 7 feet tall.

I took a wrong toin at albuquerque!

 

[GrumpAzz]

I'm sorta drawn to the high stress training. Along the lines of what @stonemason and @GrumpAzz have been doing.

Not quite sure if I'm in the High Stress category. I feel like that's more along the lines of super/monster cropping, breaking limbs to form knuckle or something... I couldn't even do the smash Granny suggests. I wimped out, choosing to tuck and weave instead.

Those clips are considered low stress I'm pretty sure. They're sweet but I start training too early for them to really work so I massage them sensually and get them to bend over. Tie them down BDSM style.

I'm more in the realm of mainlining but I just go for 4 colas instead of the usual 6 or 8. @Jonnyboi84 has a couple threads that I tried to follow. I did 8, then I did 6 and landed on 4 because I don't really like them growing into each other's space. I'm weird like that. My moniker says it all... Wingin' It.

 

[Observer]

I've seen more than one comment about it being cheap.so, no big loss if you have to cut it out. I've also seen a few comments about it not leaving fibers stuck to your buds like some of the nylon nets

Yea, prevents that contamination.

 

[doublej]

If your plant is at least six inches taller than your table when you table it they should be pushed under the screen laying longwise beneath it with nothing pulled through. By the next morning, the magic starts. The main colas will have turned up.
I open my plant up as I manipulate it to get it safely under the table, so as you say, sweep them out in each direction, like a circle.

You should not have to push your branches back under. Soon as the stretch begins they will assume a big vertical reach on their own. Sometimes prior to the stretch ending I may move a cola to another open place, but, I just push it under. It rights itself.

Look at the pics below, you will see the limbs are completely under my table top, spread out. Everything you see standing up, has done that itself.
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The second one is 24 in or more¿.....humm.....

 

[Habosabin]

What are you guys using the heat your water in the winter?

I used an aquarium heater when I was using a reservoir.

 

[CannaGranny]

The second one is 24 in or more¿.....humm.....

More than likely taller as my tables that I do sativa/hybrids on is 24” and I like the limbs six to nine taller than my table prior to tabling.

 

[doublej]

More than likely taller as my tables that I do sativa/hybrids on is 24” and I like the limbs six to nine taller than my table prior to tabling.

Right on....I might can make something work

I gotta get this system running, and I'll gain a little headroom when I remove the pallet and tray that I'm using now, the grow buckets are going on the floor...

 

[Zen_seeker]

I like that idea. I added some support for the outdoors plants, this year. I still need to do more. I was gone all day yesterday. So, today will be my first real assessment,

I used two 1”x1”x6’ as weight and to keep it stretched out. I rolled in around the 1x1 once and used a staple gun to keep it in place. It’s like a huge hair net I can roll up and store until needed again.

 

[doublej]

your clones are already looking great, they're gonna take off real soon!! they grow so much faster than seedlings as you already can see!!



oooh i got some of that maybe i should add some of that too!!! hahaha nah i didn't plan on putting all those things in but it just happened...

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i gotta say guys it's much nicer posting photos when they look good!!!!!

hoping they get even better because now we're chillin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no leaks and it seems to be working.. its humming and lights up anyway!!! hahaha

@doublej I know this isn't the same model you got but i thought i'd mention the delta on temp was defaulted to five degrees. so i needs to go 5 degrees above set point to turn on.. i turned my delta setting down to one degree.

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This........I couldn't find it earlier......it's good to go back and find answers to your questions......idk...I got it now,,,!

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your clones are already looking great, they're gonna take off real soon!! they grow so much faster than seedlings as you already can see!!



oooh i got some of that maybe i should add some of that too!!! hahaha nah i didn't plan on putting all those things in but it just happened...

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i gotta say guys it's much nicer posting photos when they look good!!!!!

hoping they get even better because now we're chillin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no leaks and it seems to be working.. its humming and lights up anyway!!! hahaha

@doublej I know this isn't the same model you got but i thought i'd mention the delta on temp was defaulted to five degrees. so i needs to go 5 degrees above set point to turn on.. i turned my delta setting down to one degree.

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Found it!......answer to my queries.....nice to have the info here,,,,I looked for awhile before I found it........

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[Stoneyluv]

I like that idea. I added some support for the outdoors plants, this year. I still need to do more. I was gone all day yesterday. So, today will be my first real assessment, but I know I took some damage during a storm we had Saturday evening.


My first tent grow, so who knows where I'll end up. My initial thoughts were that I would like to try smaller and I like to be able to make use of space closer to the tent walls. The bungee net I used stretched away from the walls a good bit. Maybe those cross braces like @doublej uses in his tents would give me something to secure the net to around the edges.

I have some heavy monofilament (550lb and 1,000lb) that I use for building shark leaders. I've toyed with the idea of building a frame or two and lacing it with the leader material. That might be good when I try the CG smash technique that you're going for in your grow. I want to try another round with the training clips, before I experiment with a different technique. I'm sorta drawn to the high stress training. Along the lines of what @stonemason and @GrumpAzz have been doing.

I'm excited to see what you do with that thick and shaggy canopy. It looks super healthy. So healthy that it makes me want to reach through the screen and defoliate. They've been living to easy. Time for them to grow up and learn how to adjust to a little stress, lol.

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i'm excited too man, starting to countdown the days!!!! not only the excitement for the scrog but also the hydro side of mixing bloom nutes and a changeout... hell i have a whole quart of koolbloom and haven't gotten to use it yet!!!!

with these last few changes of the automation with auto top off and auto ph i haven't done a single thing.. just kinda look at them once a day and peek in the top off barrel. i feel like my work here is done!! hahaha

all the action is set for saturday night!! most people go out to a bar on their bday.. i'm staying in and scrog'n -n- flip'n!!!!!!!!! haha

If your plant is at least six inches taller than your table when you table it they should be pushed under the screen laying longwise beneath it with nothing pulled through. By the next morning, the magic starts. The main colas will have turned up.
I open my plant up as I manipulate it to get it safely under the table, so as you say, sweep them out in each direction, like a circle.

ahhh i get ya.. i was over complicating it in my head thinking i would smash and then continue to tuck for another week or so. i didn't realize everything was all done at once and didn't have to be done again... i'm liking this choice more and more every time i ask you a question!!!

You should not have to push your branches back under. Soon as the stretch begins they will assume a big vertical reach on their own. Sometimes prior to the stretch ending I may move a cola to another open place, but, I just push it under. It rights itself.

i understand, that makes sense.. some branches may need a little adjustment here and there in the beginning.. i'll keep this in mind!!!

Look at the pics below, you will see the limbs are completely under my table top, spread out. Everything you see standing up, has done that itself.
Second pic shows you the ugly duckling turning into a swan!

i assumed it wasn't going to look very nice at first once everything is horizontal.. leaves matted and held flat.. i'm not trying to win a beauty contest here.. i wanna win a sticky bud contest!!! hehehe

Granny, i got a little frisky the other night and FIM'd the tops on the smaller plant on the right. they took to it rather nicely and responded with some praying the next day!!!



Thanks so much for your help Granny, i feel comfortable with the next step and can't wait to see how it turns out!!

My Fing outdoor SCrOg is 7 feet tall.

I took a wrong toin at albuquerque!

thats just mind blowing to me!!!! scaffolding to maintain buds!!!

This........I couldn't find it earlier......it's good to go back and find answers to your questions......idk...I got it now,,,!







Found it!......answer to my queries.....nice to have the info here,,,,I looked for awhile before I found it........

i didn't know you lookin for it!!! hehehe...

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so since the plants are growing and i don't have those problems anymore i have been playing around with ppms. i've learned when they're healthy they're also very flexible with food. it's not like they eat from the plate in front of them but more like from the buffet and just keeping enough of what they want available to them and they're happy.

so right now heading into flower i'm at 450 ppm. i'd like to stay between 450 and 480 but with the bloom recipe, i;m about half of what GH says i should be.

 

[doublej]

Sorry my new tablet is pain

 

[BlueCollarBob]

Do you still have Privileged Baddies going? I've been curious. That[s probably my next indoor effort. Seems like someone else here (tomh, maybe) mentioned having these seeds, too.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Sorry my new tablet is pain

uhhh.. i see.. so you got drug along to the phone store for your wife to get a phone and you got a new tablet?

Do you still have Privileged Baddies going? I've been curious. That[s probably my next indoor effort. Seems like someone else here (tomh, maybe) mentioned having these seeds, too.

they're hanging now... they stink pretty good, thats about all the report i can give for now!! haha

my woman old me she could smell them from the front porch today so one of the latest ones must be extra stinky!! hehehe

 

[doublej]

uhhh.. i see.. so you got drug along to the phone store for your wife to get a phone and you got a new tablet?

Yup.... Only now all the extra that kid said we're almost free... hahaha,, now she's pissed off ...she doesn't read this ..hehe so she's taking that tablet and other crap she bought for the kid back...lmao... And I'm the prick for not wanting to go...... She's ruining hydroponic day Stoney.......can you ban her for a couple weeks buddy?.........

Happy to report the ppm stayed the same after 5-6 hours still stuck on 65

they're hanging now... they stink pretty good, thats about all the report i can give for now!! haha

my woman old me she could smell them from the front porch today so one of the latest ones must be extra stinky!! hehehe

 

[BlueCollarBob]

uhhh.. i see.. so you got drug along to the phone store for your wife to get a phone and you got a new tablet?



they're hanging now... they stink pretty good, thats about all the report i can give for now!! haha

my woman old me she could smell them from the front porch today so one of the latest ones must be extra stinky!! hehehe

I better get to work on running my exhaust outside, lol.

A buddy gave me a some purple kush regs that I'm tempted to try. It would be good experience for me to grow some regs and sex the plants. Purple Kush isn't my favorite weed, but I might have a use for it in nighttime gummies.

 

[Stoneyluv]

he's ruining hydroponic day Stoney.......can you ban her for a couple weeks buddy?.........

better get to work on running my exhaust outside, lol.

i've been thinking i should put a dedicated exhaust on this hydro cabinet.. right now i just draw air through both cabinets, they share a wall and i have vents in the wall. thats the only way i get air.

A buddy gave me a some purple kush regs that I'm tempted to try. It would be good experience for me to grow some regs and sex the plants.

sexing plants is like shoveling snow.. only fun the very first time!!! haha

 

[Stoneyluv]

got a head start....

 

[Zen_seeker]

got a head start....

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Make sure you get it all set before the net drops. Will you be able to reach everything you need to once it’s down?