Buzzking is trying again - 4 site RDWC Apollo XX, Mac Dragon bx1

[moe.red]

Love your granite smoke.

Hope you are not drinking that water lol

 

[smoke]

Love your granite smoke.

Hope you are not drinking that water lol

Just had a guy change out the house ro system but no were not drinking it straight from the well

 

[Buzzking]

Thanks all for the replies and Moe for checking out the water report. I went online and the according to the most recent 2022 report they are using chloramines.


I started adding ascorbic acid after filling my batch water and letting aerate for about 12 hours to try and rid the water of that. I suppose I should just buck up and get a RO system just seems like such a huge waste of water so resisted thus far thinking I could work around the city water issues.

I’ve been using the GH Trio nute schedule as a guideline but at 1/2 the suggested amount. It seems to get me at about the right levels.

Also picked up some Cal Mag on the way back from KS so here’s what I added to the 30 gallon batch of water along with 60ml Orca
I pulled each plant and dunked each of the plants roots in a 5 gallon bucket of treated water with extra dose of Orca. Trimmed off 2 large fan leaves from the bottom of each plant but wondering if I should take a couple more of the bigger ones from the bottom to open things up??


Root pic during water change…

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Trimmed off 2 large fan leaves from the bottom of each plant but wondering if I should take a couple more of the bigger ones from the bottom to open things up??

I would say you could go either way on removing those fans bro. They will all be coming off eventually but you want your solar panels as long as you can get them at this stage I would imagine.

One concern is the fans that are actually sitting on the lids. I generally don't like to have that because it can be a point for mold an other pathogens to get a foothold on your plants. If it were me, I would leave them and just monitor closely to see if they are transpiring on each other or the lid until they get a bit more growth. If they are transpiring on each other, I generally will take at least one of the offending parties out, you definitely don't want that.

Do you have plenty of air movement? Fans going?

These short squatty plants have a learning curve for sure.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Also picked up some Cal Mag on the way back from KS so here’s what I added to the 30 gallon batch of water along with 60ml Orca

Whereabouts and whythehellabouts are you runnin' around in Kansas.

 

[Buzzking]

Whereabouts and whythehellabouts are you runnin' around in Kansas.

Wichita mostly but last week went from there up to Beloit over to KC then back to StL. Usually travel around 4k miles per month via car within So IL, MO, and KS

 

[GrumpAzz]

Wichita mostly but last week went from there up to Beloit over to KC then back to StL. Usually travel around 4k miles per month via car within So IL, MO, and KS

This is badass. I went to the technical college there in Beloit.

 

[Buzzking]

I would say you could go either way on removing those fans bro. They will all be coming off eventually but you want your solar panels as long as you can get them at this stage I would imagine.

One concern is the fans that are actually sitting on the lids. I generally don't like to have that because it can be a point for mold an other pathogens to get a foothold on your plants. If it were me, I would leave them and just monitor closely to see if they are transpiring on each other or the lid until they get a bit more growth. If they are transpiring on each other, I generally will take at least one of the offending parties out, you definitely don't want that.

Do you have plenty of air movement? Fans going?

These short squatty plants have a learning curve for sure.

Thanks for the quick reply. Normally I would have no problem clipping large fans but you’re right these plants seem to be abnormally short and squatty. I’m assuming this is because I planted a little to low into the hydroton this time. Leaning towards trimming them in a day or two…

Yes have 3 fans blowing down from the top of tent and keep the 6” exhaust going 24/7 pulli g fresh air from 2 of 4 of the vents at the bottom of the GG tent. Think they are getting good circulation in my opinion but do want to upgrade to some oscillating fans at some point, maybe this grow during flower

 

[Buzzking]

This is badass. I went to the technical college there in Beloit.

My first time in Beloit but been to Hays a couple times

 

[GrumpAzz]

My first time in Beloit but been to Hays a couple times

Hell yeah! Smallish world. I've wired some shit in Hays. We actually have a few projects going there now.

We might need to link up.

 

[Buzzking]

Hell yeah! Smallish world. I've wired some shit in Hays. We actually have a few projects going there now.

We might need to link up.

Yeah seems like this community continues to bring people together in strange ways. DM me anytime would be more than willing to share more info on my exploits in KS

 

[moe.red]

Buzz, I would hold off on clipping those big fans. You will get there eventually, but right now they are a store of mobile nutrients for your new growth, and it looks in a few places where you might have an imbalance.

I'm not sure which is old vs new, but I'm seeing some spots on a few leaves.

And bottom right

Let's talk that thru before you give a haircut. Are those all old issues, or still going thru it?

 

[dragonsflamegenetics]

subbed up for the ride!! I would agree - looking to me hungry for some Calcium.

 

[Buzzking]

Buzz, I would hold off on clipping those big fans. You will get there eventually, but right now they are a store of mobile nutrients for your new growth, and it looks in a few places where you might have an imbalance.

I'm not sure which is old vs new, but I'm seeing some spots on a few leaves.

And bottom right

Let's talk that thru before you give a haircut. Are those all old issues, or still going thru it?

Hey Moe! Yes the plant on the right is the one that started showing those symptoms Tuesday when I was heading out of town so for sure old growth. Didn’t get a chance to do the water change until yesterday morning but added 60ml of cal mag to the 30 gallon batch along with the GH trio. Water tested at 600ppm and at 5.8 ph

Agreed will leave the large fans for now and continue to monitor new growth for any signs of stress or nute imbalance.

 

[Buzzking]

So once again letting the work thing take too much of my time and get in the way of growing ….

Plants responded well to the cal mag treatment and have gone through 2 water changes so far and 3 of the 4 still looking healthy.


The Apollo in the back left is by far the most vigorous, here’s a pic of root ball
All that being said I still have a runt in the front left and they are all short and stocky. I did trim back a few of the really big fan leaves last week and again today to ensure air flow and get the bud sites some light. Going to wait one more week then flip to flower and give them a heavy trimming. Will keep you all posted as time permits. Thanks for looking

 

[smoke]

Just wanting to comment. Note the fibrous roots or lack thereof compared to @Moe.Red sample from his fogponics run.
Nothing wrong with buzzking roots imo as i have had similar healthy roots and wanted to point that out. Take it or leave it.

Zoomed in buzzking root pic

These roots are from a plant where i intentionally let the ph fall to 4.3, zoom in and notice the lack of fibrous roots

 

[Buzzking]

Update - week 4 of flower in the books.
Just got back from Jamaica and did a water change and trim. Things were out of control so tried my best to clear away the lower stuff and get some air circulating. The Apollo in the back left continues to thrive and the runt on the front left is finally coming around. Still surprised the 2 Mac Dragon on the right aren’t any bigger when compared to SLG’s recent grow but still looking healthy so that’s all I can hope for at this point.

Keeping my fingers crossed the pests are a thing of the past. I’ve scoured the cuttings for signs of infestations and haven’t found any signs of life thus far.

Thanks for reading and any input or comments are always appreciated!

Before trim…


After trim…



Roots during water change…

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Amazing work brother, you are killin it!

 

[Buzzking]

So just a quick update…did an early water change as the wife and I are heading up to the IL river to hang at our cabin and hopefully get the boat out for the first time this year. Things are looking good, had to do another major defoliation and a little knuckling on the Apollo in the back left to get things under control. All are getting frosty especially the Mac Dragon (also seeing first signs of purple). Thanks again to all for the support, here’s to building buds!

 

[MDK]

Nice looking plants buzzking! You from the Illinois area? I remember someone is but can't remember who...anyway my midwest brethren grows looking good!

Guessing from your title you had a rough last grow? This one looks on point

 

[dragonsflamegenetics]

awesome! the mac dragon bx look like the orange dreams side alot to me. Stocky af.

 

[moe.red]

Nice looking plants buzzking! You from the Illinois area? I remember someone is but can't remember who...anyway my midwest brethren grows looking good!

Guessing from your title you had a rough last grow? This one looks on point

He’s on the other side of the river. Last grow he got mites on his clones. Tore it up.

 

[Buzzking]

Nice looking plants buzzking! You from the Illinois area? I remember someone is but can't remember who...anyway my midwest brethren grows looking good!

Guessing from your title you had a rough last grow? This one looks on point

Hey MDK! Thanks! Yes from the IL side of StL but only 15 miles south of downtown.

Yes had some rough grows thus far. My first was last year about this time and turned out I had a hermie in the mix and all 4 plants went to seed. My last grow I had to cut short (literally cut them down) in the 4th week of flower due to Broad Mites. Both of those were documented on that other site.

 

[moe.red]

Hey MDK! Thanks! Yes from the IL side of StL but only 15 miles south of downtown.

Yes had some rough grows thus far. My first was last year about this time and turned out I had a hermie in the mix and all 4 plants went to seed. My last grow I had to cut short (literally cut them down) in the 4th week of flower due to Broad Mites. Both of those were documented on that other site.

It was a shame you had a great start on those plants. This time you are making up for it.

 

[MDK]

Good you stuck with it, I definitely feel your pain. Eyes are way worse than last time so I have a rough time seeing those hermie sacks. My first indoor grow I consider a complete disaster hah, had to throw away alot of plants 5 out of 6. Now I got one plant in there holding up progress.

Cheers on your current grow!

 

[Buzzking]

It was a shame you had a great start on those plants. This time you are making up for it.

Thanks Moe! All part of the growing pains forced me to try seeds again which pose their own challenges/learning lessons.

 

[smoke]

Hey MDK! Thanks! Yes from the IL side of StL but only 15 miles south of downtown.

Yes had some rough grows thus far. My first was last year about this time and turned out I had a hermie in the mix and all 4 plants went to seed. My last grow I had to cut short (literally cut them down) in the 4th week of flower due to Broad Mites. Both of those were documented on that other site.

Coming back to me, you got clones from your friend that assured you he had his mite problem cleaned up.

Pulling up a chair, to a successful finish

 

[dragonsflamegenetics]

farming is never easy for long stretches. Nature always has a way to teach us more.

 

[Buzzking]

Finally getting back to posting an update apologize for being so late. Things cruised along into week 8 of flower and trichomes were still clear. Switched them to straight tap to flush and assumed they would turn amber in the next week or so. Into week 10 1/2 as of today and decided to pull them tonight. I really wish I could have left them for a bit longer as I think I need a bit more amber to be at peek. However my schedule forced me to harvest today. The plant in the front left never caught up so had to sacrifice her as my tent is also my drying space. I think I’m going to cut things back next time and stick with one plant and scrog her to make a sea of green. Then I don't have to worry about things finishing at different times and have a bit more space to work with.

Thanks to all for the advice and a special thanks to @SweetLeafGrow for providing the beans!

 

[MDK]

Dude nice! I think you will be pleased in the end good job!

Edit: my bad which one is the black lookin plant she Purdy

 

[Buzzking]

Dude nice! I think you will be pleased in the end good job!

Edit: my bad which one is the black lookin plant she Purdy

The 2 on the right are the Mac Dragon bx1 from @dragonsflamegenetics. I agree super sticky and dense can’t wait to try it!

The 2 on the left are the Apollo 11 from Brothers Grim. Jury is out on it but from the research I’ve done turns out the fox tailing is part of the genetics.(https://www.hytiva.com/strains/hybrid/apollo-11) Buds are huge so will likely take a while to dry. Have the tent down to 64F at 52% RH trying to take it slow and preserve those terps.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

You absolutely killed it bro, stellar work, hell yea!

 

[Cool_Beans]

Nice grow dude, congrats!

 

[Buzzking]

Connected a 6” flex vent to a register have the tent down to 63F evening and through the night max 70F during the day. Humidity has been between 53-57%, looking good so far

 

[GrumpAzz]

Connected a 6” flex vent to a register have the tent down to 63F evening and through the night max 70F during the day. Humidity has been between 53-57%, looking good so far View attachment 14097View attachment 14098View attachment 14099

Man I love duct tape

 

[dragonsflamegenetics]

The 2 on the right are the Mac Dragon bx1 from @dragonsflamegenetics. I agree super sticky and dense can’t wait to try it!

The 2 on the left are the Apollo 11 from Brothers Grim. Jury is out on it but from the research I’ve done turns out the fox tailing is part of the genetics.(https://www.hytiva.com/strains/hybrid/apollo-11) Buds are huge so will likely take a while to dry. Have the tent down to 64F at 52% RH trying to take it slow and preserve those terps.

awesome job bud! looks like will be some killer smoke.

 

[Buzzking]

awesome job bud! looks like will be some killer smoke.

Thanks dude! Compliments to you and the genetics. Can’t say enough about the quality I have seen from those that have grown using your seeds.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

From the looks, the strain is very stable too. Your plants look just like mine from the same pack of seeds. Be interesting to see how Moe does with his run of this Mac Dragon.

 

[SSgrower]

Moe too? I gotta get on board, congrats on your success and learning. SS