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So...I kinda think that its odd that the trichomes are ahead of the pistils
I feel like I should jump in on this one, it's actually more common than you'd think. Im a huge Chemdog 91 fan, and it/it's crosses almost all do that same thing. Ive ran 91 S1s past 80 days and 100% amber, but they still kick white pistils like its early flower. I see it pretty regularly of chems, and a lot old Nevil/Sensi stuff. Theres some really interesting theories on how it effects the high, but I do find it to usually be on real nice bud. Hope this helps shed a lil light on it!IMG_3901.jpg
 
Thanks for the nice words. I was always led to believe that pistols turn color and also turn in on themselves or hug the calyx and not pray to the Sun, when harvest is ready. This along with trichomes color, is the information I use to determine harvest readiness.

Here is the rub on this plant. The pistils are not darkened to the extent I would imagine they should be, at this point in the grow. The trichomes are as follows...

Clear = 10 - 20 percent of total
Cloudy = 60 - 70 percent of total
Amber = 5 - 10 percent of total

So...I kinda think that its odd that the trichomes are ahead of the pistils. I am still a newbie and learning and understanding variations of cultivars and the unlimited variables that impact the final product, so this is why I said in the original post, that I am always learning something new.

So, thanks again and feel free to share your thoughts on my comments about the harvest readiness indicators etc.

I will now check this plant daily for signs its time to cut, and keep in mind that its not all a simple little box of rules that apply to all things...lol.
Well, I’m with you thinking that they look immature. I think they still got some ripening and fattening to do. On what part of the plant are you viewing these trichs?
I grew a plant one time that was all purple pistols and the trich heads were purple! Like, um, what now?
 
Haha, good one CG. Thanks BB.

I check the entire plant in random spots up and down the top to bottom. I check calyx specifically.

Oh, and its my first time with Sativas. I primarily grow Indica or hybrids. So, that could be something to consider too.

I agree with you both. Couple more days or maybe a week.
 
Thanks for the nice words. I was always led to believe that pistols turn color and also turn in on themselves or hug the calyx and not pray to the Sun, when harvest is ready. This along with trichomes color, is the information I use to determine harvest readiness.

Here is the rub on this plant. The pistils are not darkened to the extent I would imagine they should be, at this point in the grow. The trichomes are as follows...

Clear = 10 - 20 percent of total
Cloudy = 60 - 70 percent of total
Amber = 5 - 10 percent of total

So...I kinda think that its odd that the trichomes are ahead of the pistils. I am still a newbie and learning and understanding variations of cultivars and the unlimited variables that impact the final product, so this is why I said in the original post, that I am always learning something new.

So, thanks again and feel free to share your thoughts on my comments about the harvest readiness indicators etc.

I will now check this plant daily for signs its time to cut, and keep in mind that its not all a simple little box of rules that apply to all things...lol.
I don't bother with that any more. I go 77 days from flip. Fk it, looking for just the right percentage of amber is over blown imho.

I've seen a week by week analysis of thc % and week 6-7 had the highest percentage of THC after that it slowly degrades but what we gain is mass. The degradation is minimal and the weight gained is well worth the wait.

11 days ish = 1 million seconds.77 days = 7,000,000 seconds just sounds right

8 weeks they are not done bulking up, 10 weeks looks better but they're still taking water so wtf 11 weeks is my magic number

Then there's the Couch lock fear or should I say expectation of too much amber. Pshaw, I say on that. If I don't get the buzz its sht weed and after 11 weeks I get the buzz. I've no patients to wait longer, done or not theys getting chopped
 
Hey, what are your thoughts on harvest predictions based off of the pistols "alone". I will share trichomes information after I get the your opinions. Strain is unknown and most definitely Sativa or Sativa leaning. I will say this...I learn something new every grow, lol.

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I’m thinking, based upon what I believe my plants have left, that 3 weeks ok, 4 weeks good, 5 weeks superstar!
ATLEAST 4 weeks imo
 
Thanks for the nice words. I was always led to believe that pistols turn color and also turn in on themselves or hug the calyx and not pray to the Sun, when harvest is ready. This along with trichomes color, is the information I use to determine harvest readiness.

Here is the rub on this plant. The pistils are not darkened to the extent I would imagine they should be, at this point in the grow. The trichomes are as follows...

Clear = 10 - 20 percent of total
Cloudy = 60 - 70 percent of total
Amber = 5 - 10 percent of total

So...I kinda think that its odd that the trichomes are ahead of the pistils. I am still a newbie and learning and understanding variations of cultivars and the unlimited variables that impact the final product, so this is why I said in the original post, that I am always learning something new.

So, thanks again and feel free to share your thoughts on my comments about the harvest readiness indicators etc.

I will now check this plant daily for signs its time to cut, and keep in mind that its not all a simple little box of rules that apply to all things...lol.
Ignore the pistils

I like to go when the plant reaches senescence, that's the best harvest window imo, so many harvest early, unless going for a more sativa like high.
 
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GM all. Yeah, funny you should mention senescence. I have none of that going on. Before this last defoliation it was beautiful and praying and no signs of senescence. So ehhh...just gonna keep a close eye on her. Here are some pics before last defoliation, which was a couple days ago.

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She is pretty much lollypopped and looked like fire.

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Ignore the pistils

I like to go when the plant reaches senescence, that's the best harvest window imo, so many harvest early, unless going for a more sativa like high.
I have a bit of an issue with senescence setting in. That starts happening when I cut back on feed, I can have it start at 6 weeks in flower if I cut too far back. I've had plants 10 weeks old that show no signs of senescence if I've kept the feed up. I think senescence is often used to describe poorly fed plants. I've seen folks say that at 4-5 week old plants because they haven't fed properly imho.....

What say you all on that? Is that just one of my senior brain farts and too much weed in my brain or has anyone else noticed the same???
 
I have missed feeding needs around week 6 that made some plants look like they were finishing up right then.
Sometimes the lack of feed can't really be overcome and getting 2-3 more weeks is watching the plant die.
I am getting better though.
 
I have missed feeding needs around week 6 that made some plants look like they were finishing up right then.
Sometimes the lack of feed can't really be overcome and getting 2-3 more weeks is watching the plant die.
I am getting better though.
I've harvested plant at 11 weeks with healthy leaves top to bottom from over feeding. I use GH products Cal/mag,Micro,Grow,Bloom. If I cut back Micro and Grow lower than 4ml/gal I get leaf fading almost immediately in flower, if I keep at 4ml they stay healthy
 
Morning all~!
Adirondack Balloon festival is this weekend along with Saratoga Auto Museum car auction [ a big deal] and a car show on main street in Tannersville/ Hunter Mountain tomorrow.
A pic from last years balloon fest.
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Ah that's why I didn't see you yesterday lol 😂
Only about 40 cars showed up
 
I don't bother with that any more. I go 77 days from flip. Fk it, looking for just the right percentage of amber is over blown imho.

I've seen a week by week analysis of thc % and week 6-7 had the highest percentage of THC after that it slowly degrades but what we gain is mass. The degradation is minimal and the weight gained is well worth the wait.

11 days ish = 1 million seconds.77 days = 7,000,000 seconds just sounds right

8 weeks they are not done bulking up, 10 weeks looks better but they're still taking water so wtf 11 weeks is my magic number

Then there's the Couch lock fear or should I say expectation of too much amber. Pshaw, I say on that. If I don't get the buzz its sht weed and after 11 weeks I get the buzz. I've no patients to wait longer, done or not theys getting chopped
Don’t hold back on us!! ;)

I gotta say, I do like the 7 million seconds thing! I’m going to create my own strain called 7 million seconds! If I’m successful I’ll cut you in on my massive profits!
 
Knowing what day of flower or even the week your in when growing outdoors is a ridiculous proposition. Cracks me up every time I see someone say where they are in terms of the flowering cycle of an outdoor plant.
 
Knowing what day of flower or even the week your in when growing outdoors is a ridiculous proposition. Cracks me up every time I see someone say where they are in terms of the flowering cycle of an outdoor plant.
Mine are somewhere in the flowering stage, but tf if I know where.
Going as long as I can. I know how long these plants like to run, so ive got a general idea but theres no way to know where youre at outside unless you run a light depo operation
 
Knowing what day of flower or even the week your in when growing outdoors is a ridiculous proposition. Cracks me up every time I see someone say where they are in terms of the flowering cycle of an outdoor plant.
I have honestly drifted some 12 days in my estimate of where my outdoor plants are thoughout the flowering season. I’m still not sure I’m right but at least I know what year it is! ;)
 
I have a bit of an issue with senescence setting in. That starts happening when I cut back on feed, I can have it start at 6 weeks in flower if I cut too far back. I've had plants 10 weeks old that show no signs of senescence if I've kept the feed up. I think senescence is often used to describe poorly fed plants. I've seen folks say that at 4-5 week old plants because they haven't fed properly imho.....

What say you all on that? Is that just one of my senior brain farts and too much weed in my brain or has anyone else noticed the same???
Gotta be careful with overfertilization, with organic inputs that break down overtime.

it's easier with salts/High frequency fertigation, rockwool/coco medias.

Easier when the grow is setup with more control at the rootzone.

"Easier" to reset the substrates E.C, compared to organics.

Eventually, the plant will use the media nutrient input, and then their reserves, and then "fade".

(The plant WANTS to reach Senescence, live its life cycle, reproduce and die when its done flowering, of course, if it's a photoperiod the light schedule dictates, but the "instinct" Is still there.)


This is timed with how developed the buds are.
 
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Gotta be careful with overfertilization, with organic inputs that break down overtime.

it's easier with salts/High frequency fertigation, rockwool/coco medias.

Easier when the grow is setup with more control at the rootzone.

"Easier" to reset the substrates E.C, compared to organics.

Eventually, the plant will use the media nutrient input, and then their reserves, and then "fade".

(The plant WANTS to reach Senescence, live its life cycle, reproduce and die when its done flowering, of course, if it's a photoperiod the light schedule dictates, but the "instinct" Is still there.)


This is timed with how developed the buds are.
So, what you are saying is the following if I understand your reasoning...

Organic amendments break down over time, and if the grower hasn't timed the top dressing accordingly, you run the risk of hot soil for a plant that wants to use up its reserves, but is not allowed to, because the soil continues to feed the plant.

Even if planted in the Earth and not pots, if you top dress to late, you can make it difficult for the plant to finish out in a fade.

Not knowing much about this subject makes me beg the question, why wouldn't the plant continue to use the abundance of nutrients to finish out, without a fade? My plant trichomes tell me she is almost ready. Not giant buds, but hey whatever right. But the pistols tell another story. And the fact that there is no fade, is also confusing.

No worries. I do not doubt the knowledge presented here. I just take it all in and learn.
 
Gotta be careful with overfertilization, with organic inputs that break down overtime.

it's easier with salts/High frequency fertigation, rockwool/coco medias.

Easier when the grow is setup with more control at the rootzone.

"Easier" to reset the substrates E.C, compared to organics.

Eventually, the plant will use the media nutrient input, and then their reserves, and then "fade".

(The plant WANTS to reach Senescence, live its life cycle, reproduce and die when its done flowering, of course, if it's a photoperiod the light schedule dictates, but the "instinct" Is still there.)


This is timed with how developed the buds are.
Oh I don't disagree, everything dies but when I see plants that fade early and senescence is the excuse but in my eye's its poor feeding. Senescence shouldn't start before week 8 , even then unless you want them to fade and die they're still feeding then and should look like they're about to die
 
Knowing what day of flower or even the week your in when growing outdoors is a ridiculous proposition. Cracks me up every time I see someone say where they are in terms of the flowering cycle of an outdoor plant.
I can tell week 3-4 in flower indoor or out, from there its easy to count days. Week 2 buds show, week 3 we have sm buds with flexible stems, week 4 stems have hardened up and buds start to swell.
 
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Sometimes there's a part of me
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There are stars
In the Southern sky
Southward as you go
There is moonlight
And moss in the trees
Down the Seven Bridges Road

Now I have loved you like a baby
Like some lonesome child
And I have loved you in a tame way
And I have loved you wild

Sometimes there's a part of me
Has to turn from here and go
Running like a child from these warm stars
Down the Seven Bridges Road

There are stars in the Southern sky
And if ever you decide
You should go
There is a taste of thyme sweetened honey
Down the Seven Bridges Road
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Not knowing much about this subject makes me beg the question, why wouldn't the plant continue to use the abundance of nutrients to finish out, without a fade? My plant trichomes tell me she is almost ready. Not giant buds, but hey whatever right. But the pistols tell another story. And the fact that there is no fade, is also confusing
Was trying to understand ur question

Knowing the plants lineage/genetics is valuable for timing crops too.

The pistils just want to catch pollen, imo, so not looking much deeper into that, just yet, I'm looking at the bud structure.

If it's a photoperiod, the plant will just keep growing and taking nutrients, besides the light schedule.

Decrease the light and nutrients, signals the plant to finish up, temperature can signal different hormonal responses too.

(But there's a "new technique" with running more light hours at the last week or so, dirtbag is the only one who's done it here)

And I also know your growth context is outdoors, for that plant you posted with the ?.

(Majority of my grow experience is indoors)
 
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Was trying to understand ur question

Knowing the plants lineage/genetics is valuable for timing crops too.

The pistils just want to catch pollen, imo, so not looking much deeper into that, just yet, I'm looking at the bud structure.

If it's a photoperiod, the plant will just keep growing and taking nutrients, besides the light schedule.

Decrease the light and nutrients, signals the plant to finish up, temperature can signal different hormonal responses too.

(But there's a "new technique" with running more light hours at the last week or so, dirtbag is the only one who's done it here)

And I also know your growth context is outdoors, for that plant you posted with the ?.

(Majority of my grow experience is indoors)
I've done that running 16 hrs but without control plants there's no way to know what added benefit I got. I dropped my lights to 60-65% and extended the hrs. I was told its an old pro growers tip to boost under performing buds the last 7 - 10 days, closer to 7 than 10 watching out for signs of revegging.
 
I've done that running 16 hrs but without control plants there's no way to know what added benefit I got. I dropped my lights to 60-65% and extended the hrs. I was told its an old pro growers tip to boost under performing buds the last 7 - 10 days, closer to 7 than 10 watching out for signs of revegging.
I'm not too familiar with it just yet, supposed to help boost resin production, is the main thing, afaik so far.
 
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