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Observer said:
Gotta be careful with overfertilization, with organic inputs that break down overtime.

it's easier with salts/High frequency fertigation, rockwool/coco medias.

Easier when the grow is setup with more control at the rootzone.

"Easier" to reset the substrates E.C, compared to organics.

Eventually, the plant will use the media nutrient input, and then their reserves, and then "fade".

(The plant WANTS to reach Senescence, live its life cycle, reproduce and die when its done flowering, of course, if it's a photoperiod the light schedule dictates, but the "instinct" Is still there.)


This is timed with how developed the buds are.
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So, what you are saying is the following if I understand your reasoning...

Organic amendments break down over time, and if the grower hasn't timed the top dressing accordingly, you run the risk of hot soil for a plant that wants to use up its reserves, but is not allowed to, because the soil continues to feed the plant.

Even if planted in the Earth and not pots, if you top dress to late, you can make it difficult for the plant to finish out in a fade.

Not knowing much about this subject makes me beg the question, why wouldn't the plant continue to use the abundance of nutrients to finish out, without a fade? My plant trichomes tell me she is almost ready. Not giant buds, but hey whatever right. But the pistols tell another story. And the fact that there is no fade, is also confusing.

No worries. I do not doubt the knowledge presented here. I just take it all in and learn.
 
Observer said:
Gotta be careful with overfertilization, with organic inputs that break down overtime.

it's easier with salts/High frequency fertigation, rockwool/coco medias.

Easier when the grow is setup with more control at the rootzone.

"Easier" to reset the substrates E.C, compared to organics.

Eventually, the plant will use the media nutrient input, and then their reserves, and then "fade".

(The plant WANTS to reach Senescence, live its life cycle, reproduce and die when its done flowering, of course, if it's a photoperiod the light schedule dictates, but the "instinct" Is still there.)


This is timed with how developed the buds are.
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Oh I don't disagree, everything dies but when I see plants that fade early and senescence is the excuse but in my eye's its poor feeding. Senescence shouldn't start before week 8 , even then unless you want them to fade and die they're still feeding then and should look like they're about to die
 
freezeland said:
Knowing what day of flower or even the week your in when growing outdoors is a ridiculous proposition. Cracks me up every time I see someone say where they are in terms of the flowering cycle of an outdoor plant.
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I can tell week 3-4 in flower indoor or out, from there its easy to count days. Week 2 buds show, week 3 we have sm buds with flexible stems, week 4 stems have hardened up and buds start to swell.
 
There are stars
In the Southern sky
Southward as you go
There is moonlight
And moss in the trees
Down the Seven Bridges Road

Now I have loved you like a baby
Like some lonesome child
And I have loved you in a tame way
And I have loved you wild

Sometimes there's a part of me
Has to turn from here and go
Running like a child from these warm stars
Down the Seven Bridges Road

There are stars in the Southern sky
And if ever you decide
You should go
There is a taste of thyme sweetened honey
Down the Seven Bridges Road
 
CannaGranny said:
There are stars
In the Southern sky
Southward as you go
There is moonlight
And moss in the trees
Down the Seven Bridges Road

Now I have loved you like a baby
Like some lonesome child
And I have loved you in a tame way
And I have loved you wild

Sometimes there's a part of me
Has to turn from here and go
Running like a child from these warm stars
Down the Seven Bridges Road

There are stars in the Southern sky
And if ever you decide
You should go
There is a taste of thyme sweetened honey
Down the Seven Bridges Road
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Love it!
 
Tremojem said:
Not knowing much about this subject makes me beg the question, why wouldn't the plant continue to use the abundance of nutrients to finish out, without a fade? My plant trichomes tell me she is almost ready. Not giant buds, but hey whatever right. But the pistols tell another story. And the fact that there is no fade, is also confusing
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Was trying to understand ur question

Knowing the plants lineage/genetics is valuable for timing crops too.

The pistils just want to catch pollen, imo, so not looking much deeper into that, just yet, I'm looking at the bud structure.

If it's a photoperiod, the plant will just keep growing and taking nutrients, besides the light schedule.

Decrease the light and nutrients, signals the plant to finish up, temperature can signal different hormonal responses too.

(But there's a "new technique" with running more light hours at the last week or so, dirtbag is the only one who's done it here)

And I also know your growth context is outdoors, for that plant you posted with the ?.

(Majority of my grow experience is indoors)
 
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Observer said:
Was trying to understand ur question

Knowing the plants lineage/genetics is valuable for timing crops too.

The pistils just want to catch pollen, imo, so not looking much deeper into that, just yet, I'm looking at the bud structure.

If it's a photoperiod, the plant will just keep growing and taking nutrients, besides the light schedule.

Decrease the light and nutrients, signals the plant to finish up, temperature can signal different hormonal responses too.

(But there's a "new technique" with running more light hours at the last week or so, dirtbag is the only one who's done it here)

And I also know your growth context is outdoors, for that plant you posted with the ?.

(Majority of my grow experience is indoors)
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I've done that running 16 hrs but without control plants there's no way to know what added benefit I got. I dropped my lights to 60-65% and extended the hrs. I was told its an old pro growers tip to boost under performing buds the last 7 - 10 days, closer to 7 than 10 watching out for signs of revegging.
 
Pipecarver said:
I've done that running 16 hrs but without control plants there's no way to know what added benefit I got. I dropped my lights to 60-65% and extended the hrs. I was told its an old pro growers tip to boost under performing buds the last 7 - 10 days, closer to 7 than 10 watching out for signs of revegging.
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I'm not too familiar with it just yet, supposed to help boost resin production, is the main thing, afaik so far.
 
Observer said:
I'm not too familiar with it just yet, supposed to help boost resin production, is the main thing, afaik so far.
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DrGreen told me about that years ago, not sure if you remember him, he was here and at the farm. He lives close by and used to grow commercially. He'd drop by now and again but he had some health issues and has disappeared.
 
TomH said:
Anyone ever try these?
I’m hoping they relieve the cluster headaches, I’ve had one constantly for about 10 days.

I’m hoping the serotonin reset will stop them for a while at least.

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I've not tried them but when I hear of headaches I think dehydration. You're in a warm local I'd suggest pound water for a day or 2 & see if it helps. I get them off and on, never for a week at a time but my go to is water and lots of it........I'm not a Dr. but I worked in a hospital....I know things....lol
 
Pipecarver said:
I've not tried them but when I hear of headaches I think dehydration. You're in a warm local I'd suggest pound water for a day or 2 & see if it helps. I get them off and on, never for a week at a time but my go to is water and lots of it........I'm not a Dr. but I worked in a hospital....I know things....lol
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I know everyone isn't the same but for me it's almost always dehydration headaches from too much coffee/tea and not enough water like you say.
 
I understand the dehydration effect, but cluster headaches are a different animal completely. I usually drink a ton of water.

Cluster headaches are serotonin disruption related and like a migraine with a nuclear energy source.
This is also a gift from a certain vaccine that I got in 2021. Never had more than a couple headaches a year before that.
Now they are about 10 to 15 a month.

Several very prestigious medical universities have done double blind tests with psilocybin on vascular headaches (cluster/migraine)
they had more than 90% success relieving and eliminating future headaches), but they used heroic doses (40mg pure psilocybin). I don't want to go there, yet!

Some people had as much as 90 days free of headaches after the psilocybin. But, 40mg is going to be a long strange trip.
 
TomH said:
I understand the dehydration effect, but cluster headaches are a different animal completely. I usually drink a ton of water.

Cluster headaches are serotonin disruption related and like a migraine with a nuclear energy source.
This is also a gift from a certain vaccine that I got in 2021. Never had more than a couple headaches a year before that.
Now they are about 10 to 15 a month.

Several very prestigious medical universities have done double blind tests with psilocybin on vascular headaches (cluster/migraine)
they had more than 90% success relieving and eliminating future headaches), but they used heroic doses (40mg pure psilocybin). I don't want to go there, yet!

Some people had as much as 90 days free of headaches after the psilocybin. But, 40mg is going to be a long strange trip.
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Ya, I'm sure you have it covered, I just threw that out there because is so simple yet people don't understand that dehydration gives off that signal in your head with head aches. Elevation can also be a trigger and you travel to highs and lows don't you?
 
TomH said:
I understand the dehydration effect, but cluster headaches are a different animal completely. I usually drink a ton of water.

Cluster headaches are serotonin disruption related and like a migraine with a nuclear energy source.
This is also a gift from a certain vaccine that I got in 2021. Never had more than a couple headaches a year before that.
Now they are about 10 to 15 a month.

Several very prestigious medical universities have done double blind tests with psilocybin on vascular headaches (cluster/migraine)
they had more than 90% success relieving and eliminating future headaches), but they used heroic doses (40mg pure psilocybin). I don't want to go there, yet!

Some people had as much as 90 days free of headaches after the psilocybin. But, 40mg is going to be a long strange trip.
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I'm sorry to hear that man, i hope the shrooms help. They have helped me to reset mild depression
 
Observer said:
(But there's a "new technique" with running more light hours at the last week or so, dirtbag is the only one who's done it here)
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I wouldnt call it new. I was doing that in dep greenhouses in 2014 lol. The last 7-10 days we wouldnt even pull the blackouts, and just let em finish under the natural hours. But it had nothing to do with anything other than minimizing the chances of budrot, since the rh spikes like crazy with the plastic on the greenies. Ive even tried the 72 hours of light before harvest indoors. Never saw any difference, other than it adds a lot of heat.
 
TomH said:
Anyone ever try these?
I’m hoping they relieve the cluster headaches, I’ve had one constantly for about 10 days.

I’m hoping the serotonin reset will stop them for a while at least.

Enjoy the day allView attachment 114774
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sorry to hear about the cluster headaches man!!! from the research i've done in the past the micro dosing of psilocybin is the best relief anyone has found.

i've never tried the nano infusion but when i used them i would always grind to a powder then wash it down. the reaction time is reduced significantly by doing this. you should notice something in 15 minutes or so.

i'm interested to know how it works out for ya. if the cluster is something that frequently happens throughout the year you may have to take them like a pill everyday and be proactive.
 
Stoneyluv said:
sorry to hear about the cluster headaches man!!! from the research i've done in the past the micro dosing of psilocybin is the best relief anyone has found.

i've never tried the nano infusion but when i used them i would always grind to a powder then wash it down. the reaction time is reduced significantly by doing this. you should notice something in 15 minutes or so.

i'm interested to know how it works out for ya. if the cluster is something that frequently happens throughout the year you may have to take them like a pill everyday and be proactive.
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That’s what the guy at the dispo said too.
 
Zen_seeker said:
Helps with major depression too. That was 3-3.5 grams.
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I lived in a place near Vancouver called Barnston Island, address was first telephone pole to the left. It was basically a cow paddy in the middle of the Frazer river. Mushrooms grew by the millions with thousands in our back yard......Lets just say we over did it. That light pleasant high turns really weird after a few months of daily ingestion. Meatloaf any one/ yep mushrooms, oatmeal, sure why not. That shitty mushroom taste goes away after a while and eating hand fulls of them was almost normal...for us 5 -20 something guys, 1 gal at first then 2 it was a wild spot.
 
Pipecarver said:
I lived in a place near Vancouver called Barnston Island, address was first telephone pole to the left. It was basically a cow paddy in the middle of the Frazer river. Mushrooms grew by the millions with thousands in our back yard......Lets just say we over did it. That light pleasant high turns really weird after a few months of daily ingestion. Meatloaf any one/ yep mushrooms, oatmeal, sure why not. That shitty mushroom taste goes away after a while and eating hand fulls of them was almost normal...for us 5 -20 something guys, 1 gal at first then 2 it was a wild spot.
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I’m pretty sure that area has something called Liberty Caps (Psilocybe simalenceta or something similar to that).

They are some of the most potent mushrooms known on a by weight basis, they are usually small, but occur in huge numbers.
 
Pipecarver said:
I lived in a place near Vancouver called Barnston Island, address was first telephone pole to the left. It was basically a cow paddy in the middle of the Frazer river. Mushrooms grew by the millions with thousands in our back yard......Lets just say we over did it. That light pleasant high turns really weird after a few months of daily ingestion. Meatloaf any one/ yep mushrooms, oatmeal, sure why not. That shitty mushroom taste goes away after a while and eating hand fulls of them was almost normal...for us 5 -20 something guys, 1 gal at first then 2 it was a wild spot.
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As a kid I always saw them and even picked a few but was too afraid to try any. Always told it was poison if you got it wrong. I had a library book to help but it wasn’t really meant for that. Wish I had the internet back then.

I still see a few each year in our yard that look like liberty caps. 🤔
 
Zen_seeker said:
As a kid I always saw them and even picked a few but was too afraid to try any. Always told it was poison if you got it wrong. I had a library book to help but it wasn’t really meant for that. Wish I had the internet back then.

I still see a few each year in our yard that look like liberty caps. 🤔
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I‘m fortunate enough to have Psilocybe cyanescens and Ps. allenii in my neighborhood.
They can be incredibly potent, but Liberty caps and Azures are way more potent!
 
TomH said:
I‘m fortunate enough to have Psilocybe cyanescens and Ps. allenii in my neighborhood.
They can be incredibly potent, but Liberty caps and Azures are way more potent!
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I’ve only had PE and Blue Meanies. Wife got me 7g of each for my birthday this year. I got another 7g of each a couple months later. Still have some BM left. Didn’t realize you could get tolerant so fast so I’ll micro the rest.
 
Zen_seeker said:
Haven’t seen Sid since high school either.
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In my 20s i grew morning glories for years and collected the seeds every year, to one day make LSA, a brother of the other stuff, and then got scared when it said if i did it using the methanol method and got it wrong i could go blind. Can't use store seeds cause they are coated in something, need unadulterated ones.

Used to love all those morning glories going up and around the porch

Happy Friday!!!
 
ninjadip said:
In my 20s i grew morning glories for years and collected the seeds every year, to one day make LSA, a brother of the other stuff, and then got scared when it said if i did it using the methanol method and got it wrong i could go blind. Can't use store seeds cause they are coated in something, need unadulterated ones.

Used to love all those morning glories going up and around the porch

Happy Friday!!!
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Nothing wrong with chickening out last minute. Worst that happens is you live to tell the tail and get teased. 👊
 
TomH said:
Anyone ever try these?
I’m hoping they relieve the cluster headaches, I’ve had one constantly for about 10 days.

I’m hoping the serotonin reset will stop them for a while at least.

Enjoy the day allView attachment 114774
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So yesterday was certainly better than the previous ten.
Headache was gone by around noon yesterday and didn’t come back this morning.

Big improvement. Not sure I can attribute it completely to the shrooms but it’s curious that it cleared up about eight or nine hours after taking them and hasn’t returned.
 
Happy Friday all~!
10 days till I have to go back to work~!
Fall is really rolling in here.
Got 5 inches of rain the last 3 days in total.:oops:
Couple broke branches on the heavy buds of the outdoor plants.:rolleyes:
Hopefully we go back to dry weather, supposed to be cooling quick.
 
steamroller said:
Time to go to Maine again.
Probably just from Wednesday till Sunday?
Otherwise fall cleanup.
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hope you have fun my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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looking at harvesting this lonely outdoor redbeard plant.... she's a frosty meatball!!!

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