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[moe.red]

I was looking around at light spectrum information and came across this article on blue light.

End of Flower Cycle Does It Help To Only Use Blue Light

The end of the flower cycle may be toward the end of the growth cycle, but that does not mean your yield’s quality is set in stone.

californialightworks.com

It has me intrigued and thinking I might want to try pushing more blue and less red for the last 2-3 weeks of flower. Since I got this fancy light, I might as well try some different things. I really liked this statement in the article, not sure how true it is.



I'm thinking I could start to crank the blues up bit by bit for the next couple of weeks and when she gets close, crank it all the way up for those last few days. If I remember right, that slider on the app is set right in the middle between warm and cool.

Do you have any thoughts on this @Moe.Red? I know you have played with spectrum a lot, curious to hear your thoughts here.

I'll read the article later but in general my research has been that red and blue together in flower is the best THC producer. I think more blue is a good thing, most folks think of reds in flower. I would not adjust red down.

Keep in mind as you flower you have a lower DLI (12 vs 18 hours) so more PPFD while on is usually a good thing assuming the grow is dialed in and the plants can take it.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I'll read the article later but in general my research has been that red and blue together in flower is the best THC producer. I think more blue is a good thing, most folks think of reds in flower. I would not adjust red down.

OK, thanks Moe. Yea, I brought the red down to 90% and bumped the blue to 60% yesterday. I will bump the red back up to 100%. Do you think a gradual increase in blue until I hit 100% or an all at once move and as far as timing goes, should I wait til the last week or start now, currently just entering week 6 flower.

 

[moe.red]

OK, thanks Moe. Yea, I brought the red down to 90% and bumped the blue to 60% yesterday. I will bump the red back up to 100%. Do you think a gradual increase in blue until I hit 100% or an all at once move and as far as timing goes, should I wait til the last week or start now, currently just entering week 6 flower.

As fast as the plants will take it. This is prime cannabinoid making time.

 

[GoodShit97]

I gotta jump on this spectrum tuning bus ASAP... I feel left out

 

[TomH]

I gotta jump on this spectrum tuning bus ASAP... I feel left out

In the world of spectrum tuning, I'm still playing a kazoo!
two notes, in or out, two spectrums on and off!

Well, at least I know the wheel exists!

 

[Rootsruler]

I gotta jump on this spectrum tuning bus ASAP... I feel left out

The blurple light I have allows me to turn on and off either red or blue. I may try and turn off red the last week or so and position the light closer to keep up PPFD and see what happens.

 

[GoodShit97]

The blurple light I have allows me to turn on and off either red or blue. I may try and turn off red the last week or so and position the light closer to keep up PPFD and see what happens.

I've got a uv/ir switch on my big 450w quantum board, i never turn it on tho cause idfk what the purpose of it is

 

[TomH]

The blurple light I have allows me to turn on and off either red or blue. I may try and turn off red the last week or so and position the light closer to keep up PPFD and see what happens.

well doggone, I have one of those too somewhere. I might just have to crack it out and replace my current fixtu

I've got a uv/ir switch on my big 450w quantum board, i never turn it on tho cause idfk what the purpose of it is

It's like the 11 on the knob in spinal tap, it's just one better!

 

[Rootsruler]

I've got a uv/ir switch on my big 450w quantum board, i never turn it on tho cause idfk what the purpose of it is

Use it at various stages of growth to tweek your plants. There was a discussion on this not to long ago.

 

[Rootsruler]

well doggone, I have one of those too somewhere. I might just have to crack it out and replace my current fixtu

It's like the 11 on the knob in spinal tap, it's just one better!

Nigel - "It's one louder, isn't it?"

Marty - "Why not just make ten louder?"

Nigel - ".....these go to eleven...."

 

[GoodShit97]

Use it at various stages of growth to tweek your plants. There was a discussion on this not to long ago.

Well damn. Idk lol

 

[Rootsruler]

Well damn. Idk lol

https://budbuilders.org/threads/red-spectrum-vs-blue-spectrum.534/

 

[GoodShit97]

https://budbuilders.org/threads/red-spectrum-vs-blue-spectrum.534/

Jibberish

 

[Rootsruler]

Jibberish

Just get in there and ask 'em Q's.....

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Speaking of spectrum, been cranking the blue up bit by bit, sitting at 75% of capacity, full on red, master intensity at 100%. Will have that blue all the way maxed out by this time next week I am thinking. Today marks day 40 since flip, at least two more weeks for full potency here is my guess.

I had to do an emergency res change out this morning. I am out of town Friday - Monday so my beautiful bride has been taking care of the plants during my absence. We had a little snafu yesterday as I am guiding her over the phone on what to do. I had a situation where I had changed the res and was getting it settled before I left on Friday, was not all the way there yet. EC was rising and ph dropping so I was asking her to dilute the res down some to get this res in balance. She did what I asked but instead of the ppms dropping like I expected, they rose. Hmmmmmm. I started asking questions. Turns out, she added water from the tap, well water at 8-900 ppm instead of water from my RO tank. Whoopsies.....

So we're back to reset, running just a tad over 500 ppm, seeing if that is going to settle in.

Should be auto pilot time, or close to it. Going to start to let that ppm drop over that last week see if I can get a purdy fade, add in all the blue light and see what this gal has under them panties

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Figure I got about a week or so till these gals finish, starting to ripen up and the final swell is about over. Not a huge yielder but I think I will have decent harvest. Been bringing the ppms down, sitting at about 300 atm with a stable and steady res. They are still drinking but have def slowed down, will look at trichomes later in the week.

 

[Rootsruler]

Winter must be coming because there was a snowstorm in your tent!

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Getting some nice colors. A couple of photos from above and a couple of close ups..

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

Coming down the homestretch
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[Cool_Beans]

Looks great man! I'm so far behind on everyone's grows..

 

[GrumpAzz]

Hell yes! I love that pink in the buds. For some reason that's a more appealing color, to me, than a purple nug.

You say day 51 and 3 or 4 more days? I only ask because smoke just mentioned to me that the last two weeks will really pack on the weight and that most photos can go 10 weeks. Conflicting info has this newbie... conflicted

I won't be going off a particular timeframe. I'll be going off of amber trichs. That and tobh's mention of squiggly trich stems.

Are you sure they're done bulking up?

 

[moe.red]

Coming down the homestretch
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Looking good bro

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

You say day 51 and 3 or 4 more days? I only ask because smoke just mentioned to me that the last two weeks will really pack on the weight and that most photos can go 10 weeks. Conflicting info has this newbie... conflicted

There is no right or wrong about harvest time between different growers. I think smoke is right here but in my case, I already know this is not a huge yield strain and so yea, I do think they are about finished swelling. I'm also looking at water intake, visual appearance of the pistils, as well as the trichs.

My goal here is peak THC, so I am trying to get in that small window when most everything has clouded, not many clear, and a small bit of amber. Letting it go longer has other benefits that come at the cost of losing some of the THC so each has their own purpose and harvest times vary. I also have the advantage of having just harvested the mother of these plants to tell me what to do here. The mother of these plants went 54 days, what I thought was a bit early but had to because of my schedule. I thought I was too early but test results said I was pretty close.

I took a look at trichs today and she is pretty close, slowing down on water intake as well.



I've cranked the blue spectrum up to full power for the last 3 days, looking like Monday may be the day but could be a bit later, will make that decision based on the trichs on Monday. The breeder claims the strain is capable of 32% and I hit 30% with a tad bit early chop, might see if I can get that higher number and try for a day or two longer, we'll see!

 

[GrumpAzz]

There is no right or wrong about harvest time between different growers. I think smoke is right here but in my case, I already know this is not a huge yield strain and so yea, I do think they are about finished swelling. I'm also looking at water intake, visual appearance of the pistils, as well as the trichs.

My goal here is peak THC, so I am trying to get in that small window when most everything has clouded, not many clear, and a small bit of amber. Letting it go longer has other benefits that come at the cost of losing some of the THC so each has their own purpose and harvest times vary. I also have the advantage of having just harvested the mother of these plants to tell me what to do here. The mother of these plants went 54 days, what I thought was a bit early but had to because of my schedule. I thought I was too early but test results said I was pretty close.

I took a look at trichs today and she is pretty close, slowing down on water intake as well.



I've cranked the blue spectrum up to full power for the last 3 days, looking like Monday may be the day but could be a bit later, will make that decision based on the trichs on Monday. The breeder claims the strain is capable of 32% and I hit 30% with a tad bit early chop, might see if I can get that higher number and try for a day or two longer, we'll see!

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Thanks man. I wasn't at all trying to say you were going about it wrong. I was just hoping for an explanation as to why. You provided that, so thanks.

I agree that many people grow differently and harvest for different reasons. And I, for sure, wasn't trying to throw smoke under the bus, so I hope he doesn't see it that way. I'm sure he won't. He's a dope dude. I just ask a lot of questions and we're right around the same schedule with our plants. I'm at 55 days after flipping.

Either way.. dope looking plants. Beautiful color.

 

[Nesta]

That looks so good SLG! Yield is not my priority at this point in life, but I have never seen anyone pull decent size colas off that strain.

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

I was trimming for 8 hours today and now, I'm trying to sleep and I can't get those doggone trimmers out of my head. I guess I love trimming so much, have to practice for the next round in the subconscious.

I need a big red button to slam down and turn this shit OFF.

 

[GoodShit97]

I was trimming for 8 hours today and now, I'm trying to sleep and I can't get those doggone trimmers out of my head. I guess I love trimming so much, have to practice for the next round in the subconscious.

I need a big red button to slam down and turn this shit OFF.

That used to happen to me when i was working 16 hours a day 5 days a week. Only difference was it was pallets of beer

That shit is the worst when you're trying to sleep.

 

[GrumpAzz]

That used to happen to me when i was working 16 hours a day 5 days a week. Only difference was it was pallets of beer

That shit is the worst when you're trying to sleep.

I can usually clear my head well enough to sleep, but I'll wake up in the middle of the night with a solution to something that stumped me at work. Like... it couldn't wait til my alarm goes off? Damn!

 

[Rootsruler]

Showers my "AHA!!!" place....