Observers' 2x4 Space

[Observer]

The current drip timer is like 12-2-4-6-8-10-2
8s 4s 4s 4s 4s 4s 8s probably need adjusting but yeah

 

[GoodShit97]

You got a whole lot of too much going on lol. Id go nuts, shit would be knocked over everywhere, it would be a total shitshow if it were me lol.

 

[steamroller]

You got a whole lot of too much going on lol. Id go nuts, shit would be knocked over everywhere, it would be a total shitshow if it were me lol.

YUP~!

 

[Observer]

YUP~!

getting the shroomery closet ready too, lol.

 

[Observer]

You got a whole lot of too much going on lol. Id go nuts, shit would be knocked over everywhere, it would be a total shitshow if it were me lol.

i get stuck in my head sometimes and cant execute cause theres so much "clutter"

Just Have To Organize It All.

 

[Observer]

You got a whole lot of too much going on lol. Id go nuts, shit would be knocked over everywhere, it would be a total shitshow if it were me lol.

aaaaand i gotta pop those new seeds


aaaaand finish sterilizing the place/tents etc.

aaaaaaand i need to eat


aaaaaaandd i neeed...............

 

[Observer]

aaaaaaand probably need to give some mLs to the cubes

aaaaaand i wanna smoke me a bowl

aaaaaand i................

 

[Observer]

can i kick it

 

[Observer]

smoke a fuckin bowl, recollect.

 

[Observer]

i got a silly little rap too

 

[Observer]

gotta grow that sticky stuff man

 

[Observer]

aaaaaand i need more house plants


aaand i need another huey in the 2x4

 

[Observer]

gotta get my shroom bags too

ready to inoculate ones

 

[Observer]

in the Generate and Organize Phase, Not Destruction.

 

[Observer]

i gotta get to breeding and crossing/selecting winnners too

and fuckin rinse and repeat to breed out unwanted traits and keep the wanted ones.

but gotta wait on the plants too

@GoodShit97 , lol.

 

[Observer]

getting the shroomery closet ready too, lol.

it aint called The Psyche Gardens for no reason

 

[Observer]

note

may need to exchange the "kratky" cups water soon

and check the RES and 3gal "DWC" maintenance

 

[GoodShit97]

i get stuck in my head sometimes and cant execute cause theres so much "clutter"

Just Have To Organize It All.

I dont have the organization skills to keep that all in order and functional. Definitely give you props for it man.

 

[Observer]

I dont have the organization skills to keep that all in order and functional. Definitely give you props for it man.

appreciate that, thanks man

 

[GoodShit97]

appreciate that, thanks man

Especially with a little one running around man lol.

 

[Observer]

I dont have the organization skills to keep that all in order and functional. Definitely give you props for it man.

the psyches help me a lot with it no joke, and the DMT helps me see the whole system more clearly.

when one takes "psychedelic" substances, one can tap into "universal consciousness" no joke lol.

 

[Observer]

Especially with a little one running around man lol.

it was way too much at i first but i learned to adjust and work with it

 

[Observer]

the psyches help me a lot with it no joke, and the DMT helps me see the whole system more clearly.

when one takes "psychedelic" substances, one can tap into "universal consciousness" no joke lol.

i was told or knew exactly what a few problems were and why

like a information download

 

[Zen_seeker]

i was told or knew exactly what a few problems were and why

like a information download

You already knew, you just showed or pointed it out to yourself. That’s the point of your observations, isn’t it?

 

[Observer]

You already knew, you just showed or pointed it out to yourself. That’s the point of your observations, isn’t it?

indeed

really helps to see more clearly and actually execute it properly

 

[Observer]

There we go

Space for more plants now

 

[Observer]

@SSgrower this is kratky

Notice the air-gap between the rool/water/roots

Keeping that gap in a balance is the reason why kratky works, so there's enough oxygen for the plant/roots and still access to nutrient solution

This is the basic concept of "Kratky" "style"

That was Monday

This is now, Thursday.

Pretty cool, first time Kratky Style, just wanted to see how it performs and it's limits/ per scale.

Neat.

 

[Observer]

Lots of perlite - aeration

Giving these little cubes some more media.

 

[Observer]

Need to refill/make more solution(s)

New seeds are germ'n

=)


Lol, see how far the shot glass goes.

Last 8seconds of water for the night

 

[Observer]

1030am-2am current veg time 15 hours, 30 minutes on.

LEDs at 25% ,(5-100%)

And according to tent buddy

@
60-75 %RH
77-85F ambient
75-83f LST

 

[Observer]

The current drip timer is like 12-2-4-6-8-10-2
8s 4s 4s 4s 4s 4s 8s probably need adjusting but yeah

Reduced this, posted vid

Was 2 much water

 

[Observer]

Need to refill/make more solution(s)

New seeds are germ'n

=)


Lol, see how far the shot glass goes.

Last 8seconds of water for the night

@GoodShit97 there is a lot goin on here huh, lol.

 

[Observer]

May need to increase drip res e.c

Not too sure yet, gotta compensate somewhere w.c/e.c

 

[Observer]

Pre-98 bubbakush x GDP was/in recovery mode,

She's doing better now that I actually give her some time, she still needs a few adjustments though.

Gotta get a Huey

Let me redo those shitty labels lol.

Appears a few adjustments needed but finding the balance. (E.C/W.C)

 

[Observer]

I have not had/made too much time to dive further into the chemistry/"water chemistry", least/with, since adding back/buying more mr.fulvic

So here we are, some chem chat with BARD


34% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2):

• Citric Acid: Mixing H2O2 with citric acid can potentially generate free radicals, impacting its effectiveness as a sterilant. It's best to add them separately with some time interval (e.g., 15 minutes) to minimize this interaction.
• Mr. Fulvic: Although research is limited, H2O2 might break down some complex organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, potentially reducing its beneficial effects. Adding them separately might be again optimal.
• Ca(ClO)2 (Calcium Hypochlorite): H2O2 and Ca(ClO)2 are both strong oxidants. Combining them can release chlorine gas, which is harmful to plants. Avoid mixing them directly and only use one at a time for sterilization.

Calcium Hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2):

• Mr. Fulvic: Similar to H2O2, Ca(ClO)2 could break down organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, reducing its benefits. Separate application is recommended.
• Citric Acid: Combining Ca(ClO)2 with citric acid can generate chlorine gas. Again, avoid direct mixing and use them sequentially.

Citric Acid:

• Mr. Fulvic: Citric acid can potentially enhance the solubility and bioavailability of some organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, potentially boosting its benefits.

Sterile vs. Beneficial Bacteria:

• H2O2 and Ca(ClO)2: Both are potent sterilizers and will kill beneficial bacteria as well as pathogenic ones. Using them sparingly and only when needed for sterilization is crucial.
• Mr. Fulvic: Some studies suggest Mr. Fulvic might promote the growth of beneficial bacteria due to its organic content. Further research is needed, but it aligns with the concept of adding beneficial bacteria after sterilization.

Overall:

• Separate application: Consider adding H2O2, Ca(ClO)2, and citric acid individually with time intervals to minimize potential negative interactions.
• Monitor and adjust: Pay close attention to your plants' health and adjust your base solution and nutrient additions as needed. Testing pH, electrical conductivity (EC), and specific nutrients can help you fine-tune your system.
• Research & Experimentation: Research and experiment with different base solutions and organic inputs to find the optimal combination for your specific setup and cannabis variety.

Elaborate on h2o2 and citric acid producing free radicals, reducing it's sterile effectiveness? Wouldn't the free radicals latch onto any thing "organic" or "non-sterile" ?​

You're absolutely right! Your understanding of free radicals and their potential benefits in your situation is insightful. Let's dive deeper into the interaction between H2O2 and citric acid, and how it affects their sterilizing effectiveness:
Free Radicals and Sterilization:

• When H2O2 decomposes, it can generate free radicals, particularly hydroxyl radicals (OH•). These are highly reactive molecules with a single unpaired electron, making them potent oxidants.
• Free radicals can attack organic molecules, including bacteria cell walls, damaging essential components and disrupting crucial functions. This is the basis of H2O2's sterilizing action.

Citric Acid and Free Radical Generation:

• Citric acid can catalyze the decomposition of H2O2, accelerating the formation of free radicals. While this might seem beneficial for increased sterilization power, it can also have drawbacks.
• The rapid generation of free radicals can lead to their "scavenging" by other organic molecules present in the solution, including the citric acid itself or trace organic contaminants. This "scavenging" consumes the free radicals before they have a chance to interact with target organisms like bacteria, reducing the overall sterilizing effectiveness.

Balancing the Benefit and Drawback:

• The key is to find the right balance between maximizing free radical generation for effective sterilization and minimizing their scavenging by unwanted organic matter. Some strategies include:
  • Controlling citric acid concentration: Using the minimal amount of citric acid needed to adjust pH can help limit its role in free radical scavenging.
  • Separating application: Adding H2O2 and citric acid with a time interval (e.g., 15 minutes) allows the initial burst of free radicals from H2O2 decomposition to occur before citric acid accelerates the process further.
  • Filtering: Pre-filtering your base solution to remove trace organic particles can minimize scavengers for free radicals, increasing their effectiveness against target organisms.

Organic Inputs and Free Radical Targeting:

• As you mentioned, free radicals generated by H2O2 and citric acid have a high affinity for organic matter. This can be beneficial in your sterile environment by targeting any residual organic contaminants or spores you might encounter.
• However, it's important to consider the impact on your beneficial bacteria additions. Using H2O2 and citric acid too frequently or in high concentrations could inadvertently harm the beneficial bacteria you introduce later.

 

[Observer]

caught bard saying something backwards, this is the "correction"​

​

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Chelation makes them more available ?​

Yes, chelation can indeed make nutrients more available to plants. When a chelating agent like fulvic acid binds to a nutrient ion, it forms a complex. These complexes are often smaller and more soluble than the individual nutrient ion, making them easier for plant roots to absorb.
Here's why chelation can be beneficial for plant nutrition:

• Increased solubility: Some nutrients, like iron, can be poorly soluble in certain soil conditions. Chelation can increase their solubility, making them more readily available for plant uptake.
• Protection from precipitation: Nutrients can react with other elements in the soil, forming insoluble compounds that become unavailable to plants. Chelation can prevent this by "shielding" the nutrient ion and keeping it in a soluble form.
• Enhanced transport: Once absorbed by the plant, chelated nutrients can be more easily transported within the plant tissues due to their smaller size and altered chemistry.

However, it's important to note that chelation isn't always beneficial. Here are some potential drawbacks:

• Competition for binding sites: Chelating agents can also bind to other ions in the soil, potentially tying up essential nutrients and making them unavailable to plants.
• Over-supply: As fulvic acid can enhance nutrient availability, using it without adjusting your nutrient concentrations might lead to nutrient imbalances or toxicities in your plants.

then why did you say that above?​

You're absolutely right, I apologize for the inconsistency in my previous responses regarding Mr. Fulvic and nutrient availability. I made a mistake in stating that fulvic acid could make nutrients less available. As you accurately pointed out, chelation by fulvic acid actually tends to increase the bioavailability of certain nutrients to plants.

This error highlights the importance of critical thinking and double-checking information, even when it comes from a large language model like myself. I am still under development and learning to process and apply information accurately. Your keen observation and correction helped me identify and rectify my mistake, thereby contributing to my learning process.

 

[Observer]

ahh here we go

2. Chelation:

• Citric acid can act as a chelating agent, binding to metal ions, particularly iron. This "chelation" process makes the metal ions more soluble and mobile, increasing their bioavailability for plants.
• Mr. Fulvic already contains naturally occurring chelating agents, but adding citric acid can provide additional "muscle" to enhance the chelation of beneficial mineral nutrients, boosting their availability to plants.

potentially/possible easier iron uptake/bio-availability +++

 

[Observer]

However, it's important to note that chelation isn't always beneficial. Here are some potential drawbacks:

• Competition for binding sites: Chelating agents can also bind to other ions in the soil, potentially tying up essential nutrients and making them unavailable to plants.
• Over-supply: As fulvic acid can enhance nutrient availability, using it without adjusting your nutrient concentrations might lead to nutrient imbalances or toxicities in your plants.

​

 

[Observer]

I have not had/made too much time to dive further into the chemistry/"water chemistry", least/with, since adding back/buying more mr.fulvic

So here we are, some chem chat with BARD


34% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2):

• Citric Acid: Mixing H2O2 with citric acid can potentially generate free radicals, impacting its effectiveness as a sterilant. It's best to add them separately with some time interval (e.g., 15 minutes) to minimize this interaction.
• Mr. Fulvic: Although research is limited, H2O2 might break down some complex organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, potentially reducing its beneficial effects. Adding them separately might be again optimal.
• Ca(ClO)2 (Calcium Hypochlorite): H2O2 and Ca(ClO)2 are both strong oxidants. Combining them can release chlorine gas, which is harmful to plants. Avoid mixing them directly and only use one at a time for sterilization.

Calcium Hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2):

• Mr. Fulvic: Similar to H2O2, Ca(ClO)2 could break down organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, reducing its benefits. Separate application is recommended.
• Citric Acid: Combining Ca(ClO)2 with citric acid can generate chlorine gas. Again, avoid direct mixing and use them sequentially.

Citric Acid:

• Mr. Fulvic: Citric acid can potentially enhance the solubility and bioavailability of some organic compounds in Mr. Fulvic, potentially boosting its benefits.

Sterile vs. Beneficial Bacteria:

• H2O2 and Ca(ClO)2: Both are potent sterilizers and will kill beneficial bacteria as well as pathogenic ones. Using them sparingly and only when needed for sterilization is crucial.
• Mr. Fulvic: Some studies suggest Mr. Fulvic might promote the growth of beneficial bacteria due to its organic content. Further research is needed, but it aligns with the concept of adding beneficial bacteria after sterilization.

Overall:

• Separate application: Consider adding H2O2, Ca(ClO)2, and citric acid individually with time intervals to minimize potential negative interactions.
• Monitor and adjust: Pay close attention to your plants' health and adjust your base solution and nutrient additions as needed. Testing pH, electrical conductivity (EC), and specific nutrients can help you fine-tune your system.
• Research & Experimentation: Research and experiment with different base solutions and organic inputs to find the optimal combination for your specific setup and cannabis variety.

Elaborate on h2o2 and citric acid producing free radicals, reducing it's sterile effectiveness? Wouldn't the free radicals latch onto any thing "organic" or "non-sterile" ?​

You're absolutely right! Your understanding of free radicals and their potential benefits in your situation is insightful. Let's dive deeper into the interaction between H2O2 and citric acid, and how it affects their sterilizing effectiveness:
Free Radicals and Sterilization:

• When H2O2 decomposes, it can generate free radicals, particularly hydroxyl radicals (OH•). These are highly reactive molecules with a single unpaired electron, making them potent oxidants.
• Free radicals can attack organic molecules, including bacteria cell walls, damaging essential components and disrupting crucial functions. This is the basis of H2O2's sterilizing action.

Citric Acid and Free Radical Generation:

• Citric acid can catalyze the decomposition of H2O2, accelerating the formation of free radicals. While this might seem beneficial for increased sterilization power, it can also have drawbacks.
• The rapid generation of free radicals can lead to their "scavenging" by other organic molecules present in the solution, including the citric acid itself or trace organic contaminants. This "scavenging" consumes the free radicals before they have a chance to interact with target organisms like bacteria, reducing the overall sterilizing effectiveness.

Balancing the Benefit and Drawback:

• The key is to find the right balance between maximizing free radical generation for effective sterilization and minimizing their scavenging by unwanted organic matter. Some strategies include:
  • Controlling citric acid concentration: Using the minimal amount of citric acid needed to adjust pH can help limit its role in free radical scavenging.
  • Separating application: Adding H2O2 and citric acid with a time interval (e.g., 15 minutes) allows the initial burst of free radicals from H2O2 decomposition to occur before citric acid accelerates the process further.
  • Filtering: Pre-filtering your base solution to remove trace organic particles can minimize scavengers for free radicals, increasing their effectiveness against target organisms.

Organic Inputs and Free Radical Targeting:

• As you mentioned, free radicals generated by H2O2 and citric acid have a high affinity for organic matter. This can be beneficial in your sterile environment by targeting any residual organic contaminants or spores you might encounter.
• However, it's important to consider the impact on your beneficial bacteria additions. Using H2O2 and citric acid too frequently or in high concentrations could inadvertently harm the beneficial bacteria you introduce later.

 

[Observer]

Shh babies sleep