Rolling through time~!

[GoodShit97]

SLG sent you some Grape Gas clones also right? They were from IP.

Yes, and the Apples and Bananas too

 

[steamroller]

He was good to me when I ordered stuff so I have no problem with him.
If seeds grow me fire I'll be buying more.
This is as close to a pedigree as you will get these days with seeds.
The lineage is proven.

 

[Max]

How much did the o2 kit set you back steam and what’s it cost for a refil.that bottle a decent size..
oh how often are you exchanging the air in room.

 

[steamroller]

How much did the o2 kit set you back steam and what’s it cost for a refil.that bottle a decent size..
oh how often are you exchanging the air in room.

Hey Max~!
Regulator and inkBird controller were $100 together.
The tank is about $35 a fill for me.
My exchange is getting more frequent unfortunately due to temps.
I have the room set for 88f now and it gets there pretty easy.
I still need heat at night since we are just getting over freezing during the day here so can't use the air conditioner to reduce air exchange.
It will be interesting to see how long this tank last. I think I got over a week with first so not mad yet~!

 

[steamroller]

So the second tank will only last 5 days~!
I imagine this is a combo effect of higher setting and higher temps causing more frequent air exchanges.
Not mad but a little disappointed. Mad I did not refill first bottle yet so they go atleast tomorrow without additional CO2.
I don't see the tank lasting through today, it is very light and the regulator is reading very low.
Here they are today just 1 day short of 3 weeks in flower.

^^ High Mars ^^


^^ Oregon Grapes ^^


^^ Frozen Black Cherry^^

They got a third small dose of Beastie Bloomz and all the usual nutes.
I don't usually go defol crazy [slacker thing still] but these are thick bushes that I have been pulling large fans off every time I go in the room.
So I may take the scissors to them down low.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Go

 

[Max]

With co2. It falls right,and as you increase the ppm in room it rises..is that right?.so how do you set it up in a room .
im just thinking if it’s say a low amount and it drops to the floor the exhaust will suck it upwards through the plants

 

[steamroller]

With co2. It falls right,and as you increase the ppm in room it rises..is that right?.so how do you set it up in a room .
im just thinking if it’s say a low amount and it drops to the floor the exhaust will suck it upwards through the plants

I do believe CO2 is heavy so it settles.
I have it being released right in front of the 16 inch Hurricane fan on the wall about 6' up. The little tube is stuck right through the fan cage.
My floor fan is off to help not dry things out quicker but might help if on with temps [ probably wishful thinking].
The exhaust fan is mounted to the ceiling so air removed is from upper level in theory drawing up the heavier CO2.
On the other end of the room is a 20 inch box fan running 24/7 like the Hurrcane.
I am pretty sure just considering use that the gas is mixing and not settling/staying low.
With all that none of the plant tops are over 3' from the floor.
Short bushes this time~!

 

[Max]

i agree.my mate told me it’s like water ,the more you pump in it rises.like filling up your room..

you have thought it out pretty well steam..great idea with the fan .love it

 

[Stoneyluv]

man they are packing it on already!! so tight theres not even any room for stacking, ~pre stacked!!!!!

so are you planning on growing all those new cherry strains all in one round?

 

[steamroller]

man they are packing it on already!! so tight theres not even any room for stacking, ~pre stacked!!!!!

so are you planning on growing all those new cherry strains all in one round?

Yea I will be doing all the new stuff I just got from Elite Cut Genetics and maybe a few more.

 

[steamroller]

Got the two bottles filled and hooked up this evening so just one day no gas.
I will probably fill twom ore bottles at the rate it is going.
I turned the controller down to 1000 thinking if I got 5 days at 1200 I could get 1 extra day if set at 1000.
We will see.
Also fed third dose of BB and regular feed with 3 gallons water. They are drinking a good amount in 2 days.
Happy Monday all~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

man just five days... damn... how heavy are those? 70lbs?

1000 is still pretty freakin good,,, are your lights cranked up?

jelly on that 1000... not on the hassle it would be for me to drive two towns away just to get em filled. not even to mention carrying them downstairs and wrestling the talk around!

 

[steamroller]

man they are packing it on already!! so tight theres not even any room for stacking, ~pre stacked!!!!!

They do really seemed stacked for week 3?
I can't tell if it is strain or the CO2 but I figure I am committed with the CO2.
I will install a total of 6 bottles or $200 worth of CO2.

man just five days... damn... how heavy are those? 70lbs?

1000 is still pretty freakin good,,, are your lights cranked up?

I have no idea on weight~!
The are like B or #2 tanks.
I thought they were 20lb but they weigh more than that.
I'll weigh the one full one that is not hooked up tomorrow.
5 days at 1200ppm. My room sits at 200 so even 1000 is a lot more [5x]. I hope to get an extra day going back to 1000ppm.
Got to remember it is a 5X7X20 room not a 5x5 tent.
Lights are at 90% They make some heat even with ballast in the exhaust tube.
If I turn them up any more the room will cook.
It may cook this week as it will be 60 outside, but the shop is still cool.
The room is set at 88f now lights on and the fan runs pretty often.

 

[steamroller]

So full tank weighs 45lbs.
Thinking 20lbs gas. Will weigh when empty.

Here they are 1day past week 3 in flower [ Day 22].

https://imgur.com/76RpYOD

 

[steamroller]

So came home after work to find the hose for CO2 had jambed the Hurricane wall fan and hopefully just blew a fuse. Fan was not running.
A micro fuse~! Smallest thing I would ever expect the public to be able to handle. It was in the plug like on Christmas light strips~!
No store has them so hopefully I found the right one on Amazon and have 20 of them arriving tomorrow for $6.
I turned the floor fan on and pointed it up.
Fingers crossed it is just a fuse, the fan is 3-4 years old running 24/7.

 

[steamroller]

So fuse did not re start the fan? Kind of surprised.
I will toy with it moving forward but ordered 2 new 16inch oscillating wall fans [hurricanes].
They should be here Saturday hopefully.
The room seemed happy so not real worried.

 

[Driver77]

Any idea of how much par your able to push?

 

[steamroller]

Any idea of how much par your able to push?

Between 550 and 600ppm using the photone app on full spectrum LED with an android phone no filter..
I have the FC8000's running at like 90%.
The lights are around 20-24 inches above tops.
The room would like the air conditioner but needs the heater at night still.
I think I would be running 100% if the AC was in charge.
Room is set for fresh air exchange at 88f.

Went in to check on them earlier and they were ready for water again.
Gave them the usual per FF feed chart and first dose of Cha Ching.
Pretty pleased with the room.
No jinx but it is usually around week 5-6 when things get interesting.
Maybe the lighter dosing of the finishers will work out.
Also the FF cultivation nation liquid Ca/Mg is new on this grow and may also be getting installed more consistently and accurately.

 

[MDK]

Hell yea, what's one of those tanks of CO2 run if you don't mind me asking....asking for a friend

 

[moe.red]

Hell yea, what's one of those tanks of CO2 run if you don't mind me asking....asking for a friend

I get mine filled at ck welding. $42 for 100#. For me that lasts just over 2 grows. They will lease you a tank or bring your own.

I’m buying a co2 sensor for the aci AI controller arriving Sunday. You can borrow my co2 controller I’m replacing if you want to try co2. I still have your light too.

Can you seal it up tight? No exhaust and still control temps ok?

 

[steamroller]

Hell yea, what's one of those tanks of CO2 run if you don't mind me asking....asking for a friend

They get me $35 for a 20lb refill here. One tank last almost 1 week in my room.
I'll use 6 tanks on this grow.
The inkbird controller and vivosun regulator were aprox. $100 combined.

 

[MDK]

I get mine filled at ck welding. $42 for 100#. For me that lasts just over 2 grows. They will lease you a tank or bring your own.

I’m buying a co2 sensor for the aci AI controller arriving Sunday. You can borrow my co2 controller I’m replacing if you want to try co2. I still have your light too.

Can you seal it up tight? No exhaust and still control temps ok?

It'd take some trial and error I'm sure sealed up id probably run low to mid 80s I think, I'm currently at around 78f peak which has been pretty nice. Til now powers out, humidity rising and pissing me off lol. Hope this shit comes back on soon.

Also yea was pretty under the weather last weekend, not me so much as everyone else in the house here but yea I need to get around to getting around for sure

 

[moe.red]

They get me $35 for a 20lb refill here. One tank last almost 1 week in my room.
I'll use 6 tanks on this grow.
The inkbird controller and vivosun regulator were aprox. $100 combined.

You ever done the math on if it’s worth it financially? Can you get the 100 # beverage tanks there?

 

[moe.red]

but yea I need to get around to getting around for sure

lol. Stoner.

This weekend no good been married 30 years for us that’s the puppy anniversary. Going to kc to pick her up.

But I can meet you next week if you want.

 

[steamroller]

Ok 1 day short of 4 weeks in flower.
Half way mark for me usually.

https://imgur.com/a/apjO7hl

They are drinking like crazy so they got fed today and their second dose of Cha Ching.
That completes the needed finishers but I will continue with the CC until week 6 at least.
I don't flush but I like 2 weeks nothing but water.
I am still very pleased with this grow.
CO2 tank was empty this am I suspect it expired yesterday. So 5-6 days as expected.
Weighed empty bottle and I am getting 20lbs. per fill.
Ready to start next grow and may get to it today.
I have so many seeds it was a hard choice for what to add to the 18 Elite Genetics seeds.
I am going to grow my 2 remaining Sirius Black and 3 remaining Grape Diamond.
Both were favorites of mine so this next grow should be stellar.

 

[stonemason]

Ok 1 day short of 4 weeks in flower.
Half way mark for me usually.

https://imgur.com/a/apjO7hl

They are drinking like crazy so they got fed today and their second dose of Cha Ching.
That completes the needed finishers but I will continue with the CC until week 6 at least.
I don't flush but I like 2 weeks nothing but water.
I am still very pleased with this grow.
CO2 tank was empty this am I suspect it expired yesterday. So 5-6 days as expected.
Weighed empty bottle and I am getting 20lbs. per fill.
Ready to start next grow and may get to it today.
I have so many seeds it was a hard choice for what to add to the 18 Elite Genetics seeds.
I am going to grow my 2 remaining Sirius Black and 3 remaining Grape Diamond.
Both were favorites of mine so this next grow should be stellar.

Yea buddy looking great. I forgot about that grape diamonds

 

[Observer]

So it is time to start another grow thread.
Starting to pop seeds today and getting the room ready for it all.
View attachment 82449
View attachment 82450
Hopefully growing;
3 Frozen Black Cherry [ FBC] from @B2ACG
3 High Mars [HM] from B2ACG
3 Oregon Grapes [OG] from Capt. Redbeard.
I also have 4 clones of Tropicana Cherry from Stoneys Love shack.
These are about 4' tall now so I am not sure if I will clip new clones off them or grow these out.
More pics when room is cleaned up.
Happy Monday all~!

now im in the right place, ;p

 

[Observer]

Ok 1 day short of 4 weeks in flower.
Half way mark for me usually.

https://imgur.com/a/apjO7hl

They are drinking like crazy so they got fed today and their second dose of Cha Ching.
That completes the needed finishers but I will continue with the CC until week 6 at least.
I don't flush but I like 2 weeks nothing but water.
I am still very pleased with this grow.
CO2 tank was empty this am I suspect it expired yesterday. So 5-6 days as expected.
Weighed empty bottle and I am getting 20lbs. per fill.
Ready to start next grow and may get to it today.
I have so many seeds it was a hard choice for what to add to the 18 Elite Genetics seeds.
I am going to grow my 2 remaining Sirius Black and 3 remaining Grape Diamond.
Both were favorites of mine so this next grow should be stellar.

notice anything different running co2 this run?

 

[steamroller]

notice anything different running co2 this run?

I was just looking back at last grow before you were there and I don't think I am getting a lot really.
That being said these plants are a lot smaller than what I am used to.
Maybe the super low RH in the beginning is to blame or maybe just the genetics?
I am hoping the CO2 will add 2 ounces to a 1 lb. grow using stoner math.
If it does not gain 2 oz then it was wasted.
My room runs super low without though. Like 200 and under~!
I am on bottle number 4 now and plan to use 2 more so still time for it to have the effect I want.
Pleased with the grow and it is not all sideways yet so.

 

[Observer]

I was just looking back at last grow before you were there and I don't think I am getting a lot really.
That being said these plants are a lot smaller than what I am used to.

Maybe the super low RH in the beginning is to blame or maybe just the genetics?

if environment is wrong, blame the genetics, if the env is right, the genetics are wrong.
or vice versa, haha.

I am hoping the CO2 will add 2 ounces to a 1 lb. grow using stoner math.
If it does not gain 2 oz then it was wasted.
My room runs super low without though. Like 200 and under~!
I am on bottle number 4 now and plan to use 2 more so still time for it to have the effect I want.
Pleased with the grow and it is not all sideways yet so.

hope you get the result youre after for going the extra mile

ive not used Co2 yet but from what ive read, usually need higher temps, ppfd and maybe higher "E.C" to fully utilize/ on point everything.

 

[steamroller]

if environment is wrong, blame the genetics, if the env is right, the genetics are wrong.
or vice versa, haha.


hope you get the result youre after for going the extra mile

ive not used Co2 yet but from what ive read, usually need higher temps, ppfd and maybe higher "E.C" to fully utilize/ on point everything.

I can't blame genetics without giving them a fair grow. But the three I am growing are all new to me so?
I think I messed them up in the beginning and really wonder now if part of the difference is 3g pots being compared to 5g pots?
I have been feeding 2 times a week and the room is running 88f so.
It seems the smaller pots are drying back faster so I am feeding more often.
RH has been boardline low the whole grow.

 

[Observer]

I can't blame genetics without giving them a fair grow. But the three I am growing are all new to me so?
I think I messed them up in the beginning and really wonder now if part of the difference is 3g pots being compared to 5g pots?
I have been feeding 2 times a week and the room is running 88f so.
It seems the smaller pots are drying back faster so I am feeding more often.
RH has been boardline low the whole grow.

oo did u run 5g pots last time

wonder if having 5g pots media with water compared to 3g pots with water affect your rooms RH, extra soil to hold more water/ more water released

i personally like the sound of faster dry backs and more feedings.


slacker get a humidifier lol

 

[steamroller]

I have a humidifier it is just struggling to keep up.
6 gallons every 2-3 days.
I agree that the extra demand for attention is a good opportunity for me to feed more.
I pull fans every time I am in the room but did not do a defol persay as these things are little bushes and just feel it will be a PIA.
I bet the 5g pots helped keep RH up.
I am surprised having 2@32 gallon open top aerated water cans in the room don't do it alone but?
I don't the room has gone over 50% this whole grow.
Now may be the only time the RH has been correct the whole grow.

 

[Stoneyluv]

6 gallons every 2-3 days.

wow man and here i thought i had it dry!!

we recently got some nice RH rolling through the past couple days, hopefully it rolls up your way!!

 

[steamroller]

In hindsight I have thrown a towel on the floor and dumped water on it in the past to boost RH. This issue is not completely new but I do think a greater problem this time.
I had considered wetting the floor but did not want to use up the water like that. Slacker.

 

[steamroller]

Just dropped next grows seeds into water till tomorrow.
Got tomorrow off so will place them in vertical germinator tomorrow.
25 seeds in total;
6 OG trop [ all free extras]/ Elite Cut Genetics ~ OGT
7 Black Cherry Bliss [ 1 extra for free]/ Elite Cut Genetics ~ BCB
7 Purple Cherry Punch [ 1 free extra]/ Elite Cut Genetics ~ PCP
3 Grape Diamond /Ethos ~ GD
2 Sirius Black/ B2ACG ~ SB

 

[steamroller]

^^Seeds hit the vertical germinator^^

 

[Stoneyluv]

intrigued by the grape diamonds, have you grown this one before?

ya know when you add up the total price of your co2 it doesn't sound as bad as needing a tank every five days. i mean you're right man that is a huge area to fill and you're dong it at rock star concentrations so i'm curious if you'll continue it for next round.

if you do use it again you should let me print you a clip to hold your tube in place so it can't hit the blade.

.

we'll both have the sirius black going at the same time!!

 

[steamroller]

intrigued by the grape diamonds, have you grown this one before?

ya know when you add up the total price of your co2 it doesn't sound as bad as needing a tank every five days. i mean you're right man that is a huge area to fill and you're dong it at rock star concentrations so i'm curious if you'll continue it for next round.

if you do use it again you should let me print you a clip to hold your tube in place so it can't hit the blade.

.

we'll both have the sirius black going at the same time!!

Yea the Grape Diamond is a favorite.
Maybe the 4th or 5th time growing it. Was in my first grow and repeated several times.
It was the original grape for me before going grape and cherry crazy~!
These 3 seeds were left over from the last grow maybe all the way back at the other place.
Expecting big fat nugs from her.
ETHOS baby~!

If I think the CO2 has helped I would be a fool not to do the same to 25 plants I did for 8. It is only $200 for 30 days of CO2 maybe even longer when I turn the air conditioner on and fresh air exchange decrease.
Man if all 25 come up I will have a full house next grow.
I have the hose just hanging below the new fan.
I doesn't have to go through the cage. I am getting the same effect.

On the new fan note;
Got 2 16 inch Hurricanes for $96 to replace the 18 inch I was running.
Only 1 arrived Saturday so I contacted Amazon who said it was a third party seller.
When I told them I only got one they offered a refund but I just asked why I could not just get the two I paid for.
I asked if they were coming separately but they did not seem to think so.
They said seller would be in contact with me in a couple days [ 2-3]
Yesterday second fan arrived.
Waiting to see if seller contacts me since FedEx did not note the second delivery.
I won't burn them but will make note of how they deal with issues.

I also think I could put the 18 inch blade and cage on the 16 fan if I wanted to.
Something tells me the guts are the same.

The Sirius Black will get cloned and I will run a couple outdoors again this year~!
If B2ACG has them again I will definitely buy them again.

Excited about the Elite Genetics.
These were made from Elite clones that are STUPID money. I mean STUPID like expensive before Bidenflation hit them~!
$10 a seed with a freebie in each 6 pack and a free 6 pack when I bought 2 is a good deal if they pop.
20 seeds for $120.
Going to have Trop Cherry in the room again. Karma.

 

[steamroller]

Happy Friday~!
5 weeks in flower this coming Monday.

^^ High Mars ^^

^^ Frozen Black Cherry^^

^^ Oregon Grapes^^



Will be working on these tomorrow.
Gotta clean up the solo cups first then into Stonington the ready ones will go.