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Scotty's 2nd Run

Rootsruler said:
Stink to me says toss unless you're brewing.
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Lol well by the time I saw this it was too late I had already fed it to them. I figured it wasn't much different than a tea so I went for it. I also put some on several house plants and they all seem to be loving it.

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Planning on topping one more time and doing a bit of defoliation tomorrow evening. @Moe.Red you want me to save you some cuts so you can tissue culture?
 
Scotty 420 said:
Lol well by the time I saw this it was too late I had already fed it to them. I figured it wasn't much different than a tea so I went for it. I also put some on several house plants and they all seem to be loving it.

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Planning on topping one more time and doing a bit of defoliation tomorrow evening. @Moe.Red you want me to save you some cuts so you can tissue culture?
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Guess it's time for me to grab a 5 gal and mix up some nutrient to leave out for a week!🤓

Beautiful bright green!!! They liked it like Mikey!!!
 
Scotty 420 said:
@CannaGranny So something came up I want to run by you. I checked my plants Friday morning & it looked like they were close to needing water. When I got home from work I mixed some of your feed mixture, then before I watered I rechecked & they really didn't need it. Then yesterday they still really didn't need watering. I've been manually keeping the water stirred up, but it's started foaming & developing a bit of a stink. OK to use still or should I remix?
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Always mix fresh. It’s organic and it grows stinky stuff if left sitting. I try not to mix more than I will need and immediately dispose of anything I don’t use. For sure not something that you should leave sitting at room temp premixed if you are not going to use it right away.
Ladies are lookin lovely. 🥰
 
Scotty 420 said:
@CannaGranny So something came up I want to run by you. I checked my plants Friday morning & it looked like they were close to needing water. When I got home from work I mixed some of your feed mixture, then before I watered I rechecked & they really didn't need it. Then yesterday they still really didn't need watering. I've been manually keeping the water stirred up, but it's started foaming & developing a bit of a stink. OK to use still or should I remix?
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Just so you know, I never saw the notification on this and just saw it this morning because I was reading your post! In the future, if I don’t respond in a reasonable amount of time, hit me up on the corner. I’m going to inbox you my phone number. If I don’t answer, leave me a message and I’ll call you back or I will assume you are “John” from the State Pharmacy trying to sell me viagra and I will block the number.
 
CannaGranny said:
Just so you know, I never saw the notification on this and just saw it this morning because I was reading your post! In the future, if I don’t respond in a reasonable amount of time, hit me up on the corner. I’m going to inbox you my phone number. If I don’t answer, leave me a message and I’ll call you back or I will assume you are “John” from the State Pharmacy trying to sell me viagra and I will block the number.
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Thanks, that's amazingly nice of you. And I know what was going on in your life that day so I completely understand you not seeing it. In fact after posting it I read up on your situation over on the corner & wished I hadn't even bothered you about it. And honestly no harm was done anyway, they seemed to like their fermented CannaGranny juice, I'll avoid it in the future, but it certainly doesn't seem to have hurt anything.

CannaGranny said:
Ladies are lookin lovely. 🥰
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Thanks, that means a lot coming from you!! And again just thanks for being there for all of us to bounce questions off, you've certainly helped me more than you know. And I'm super appreciative that you take time out of your day to help out.
 
Moe.Red said:
Hey Scotty I'm sorry I'm slow to respond. Got my ass kicked this week with a bug. Any chance you kept your tops?
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No worries I understand you're busy, or sick I guess in this case, glad you're feeling better though. But no I didn't keep the tops, well I mean I have them but they're in the trash can & I have no idea which ones came from what plant.
 
Another quick update, everyone still looking happy & healthy. I'm heading out of town weekend after next, so my plan is to flip them the weekend after we get back, so black Friday weekend is the plan. Doing my pre flower tea/soil amendments this weekend.

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Just another quick update. Did another big defoliation, topdressed my soil and added a tea. Flipping weekend after next, then a couple weeks after that I'm popping some more beans & starting perpetual. My last pack from Greenpoint came last night 😀

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Well I've been slacking again, looks like I haven't updated this in like 2 weeks. Honestly I have been pretty busy & actually haven't had the time to devote to my plants that I'd like.

I've actually run into what I think is a slight mag deficiency on one of them (I should have taken a picture of the leaves on that one but forgot, I'll try to update tonight). Some leaves developing brown spots & drying out. Looks to have striping in the veins on the leaves, I was planning on adding Epsom this weekend anyway so I just added it in last weekend, looks like new growth on the plant seems to be doing better.

Really need to do another trim job It's getting to be a jungle in there, but again I just haven't had much time. I actually went a couple days without checking them, when I finally got time to look at them last night they were all droopy & sad looking. After a feed/water they quickly recovered.

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Scotty 420 said:
Well I've been slacking again, looks like I haven't updated this in like 2 weeks. Honestly I have been pretty busy & actually haven't had the time to devote to my plants that I'd like.

I've actually run into what I think is a slight mag deficiency on one of them (I should have taken a picture of the leaves on that one but forgot, I'll try to update tonight). Some leaves developing brown spots & drying out. Looks to have striping in the veins on the leaves, I was planning on adding Epsom this weekend anyway so I just added it in last weekend, looks like new growth on the plant seems to be doing better.

Really need to do another trim job It's getting to be a jungle in there, but again I just haven't had much time. I actually went a couple days without checking them, when I finally got time to look at them last night they were all droopy & sad looking. After a feed/water they quickly recovered.

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Bout that time to flip those girls, lookin good
 
Another quick update. We're 2 weeks into flower, they're really stretching and starting to develop buds.
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The plant showing deficiencies seems to have recovered, here are some of the leaves that were showing issues and then a current picture of the top of the plant. Appears to be nice and green and healthy.
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I guess I'll just call this my bi-monthly update as I can't seem to find the time to update more often than that. Been a lot of changes going on with my job so I haven't quite had the same amount of free time as I used to.

As far as the plants go, flower tent is 4 weeks into flowering, I think we've finally finished stretching (plant in the back right about caused me to zip tie my lights to the top of the tent) Starting to frost up a bit & buds starting to fatten up.
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Also got the veg tent fully up & running. Props to Greenpoint, once again 6/6 germinated and progressing nicely.
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Had a bit of an incident last night, just throwing it out there to see what everyone thinks I should do going forward. So we bought my son a puppy for Christmas. Last night I went down to check the plants and the babies in the veg tent needed some water. I had left the puppy upstairs with our other dog, but I knew it would take longer than I wanted to leave a new puppy unattended so I grabbed the puppy and took him down to water with me.

I had an incident where a pot fell and as I was fixing that issue I lost sight of the puppy and turned around to see him chewing on the main stem of one of the plants with all the leaves on the floor around it. So needless to say the plant is destroyed. My question is this. Those plants were originally germinated about 3 weeks ago, am I better off just vegging the 5 that I have out a little longer/training them a little bit or trying to start a replacement that will be 3 weeks behind the rest?

Again just curious what some of you more experienced folks thought. My brother gave me a couple beans for Christmas so I have some I kinda want to pop anyway, but don't want to do it if it's just going to be a logistical nightmare with it being so far behind the rest. Anyway appreciate any thoughts/advice.

And here's a shot of the culprit, how could I stay mad at this guy?
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I would veg the 5 longer unless you want to dedicate a longer time which the 5 will be vegged to pop and grow new.
I have plants that are 2-3 weeks different, and it is substantial IMO.
I have only one grow area, so I want to wait till the last ones I popped are big enough IMO before flip.
I like to veg longer than most probably so maybe flipping at 4 weeks or something low is not a big deal.
To me I feel vegging for longer is how you get bigger plants, without some major change in grow strategy?
Cute pup for sure~! It will not be his only incident, I am sure.

Some people grow 12/12 from start so maybe if you don't care how long you veg new seeds you could experiment.
 
I've been slacking on my updates again, but with the holidays and a new puppy I'm pretty busy lately. And I honestly underestimated the amount of work running the 2nd tent was going to be.

We're 8 weeks into flower, the plant showing the deficiencies early is definitely doing it again. Probably should have given it some more epsom salt at some point,but it's too late now. Also the front right one is showing some slight deficiencies too, not sure what it is, but at this point we're coming down the home stretch.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to chop the Coffee Crisps in the back right corner (the really tall one) it's starting to fall over and the trucks were looking pretty cloudy as far as I could tell with my digital microscope. I actually have a jeweler's loupe arriving today to get a better look. Going to give the rest at least another week.

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The girls in the veg tent just went into their 5 gallon bags. Of course I somehow managed to miscalculate my soil again and ended up like a gallon short. And of course I discovered this Saturday night and their isn't a grow shop open anywhere close to me open from Sunday to Tuesday. Fortunately the nursery bags I use allowed me to just move into the new pot with the dirt I had and then fill in when I got more.

Think I may have waited to long to up pot and let them get a little hungry. (I don't start feeding until I up pot) Actually looks like it's about time to top them.
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Once again with a random update, so I ended up getting super sick right after I posted my last update & was basically pretty much stuck in bed for about 3 days. So after I was finally able to get back down & check on my plants the big one had completely bent over & a couple others were about to fall over as well, so I just went ahead & chopped them all. Been hanging for about 3-4 days now. I failed to get any pictures before I chopped, so after what looks like a bit of a stay in trim jail I'll post some pictures of the final product sometime next week.

Also after I recovered the girls in the veg tent had actually grown into the lights. Actually did some damage to the tops from light burn, but they were overdue for a topping anyway so no harm done. Just did my first feeding on them last night, seem to be in good shape so far. Once the flower tent is done serving as a drying room I'll move them over & do a short veg in there before I flip again.
 
steamroller said:
Glad you're feeling better man~! 👊
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Thanks, it was rough for sure. Basically threw up for a whole day & then took me about 2 days to build up to where I could even think about eating solid foods. (drinking small amounts of liquids would make me feel like I was going to start vomiting again) Then I smoked a nice blunt & my appetite came back. 🤣
 
Scotty 420 said:
Thanks, it was rough for sure. Basically threw up for a whole day & then took me about 2 days to build up to where I could even think about eating solid foods. (drinking small amounts of liquids would make me feel like I was going to start vomiting again) Then I smoked a nice blunt & my appetite came back. 🤣
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Weed always helps an upset stomach just gotta take one hits or something small to get over the initial queazy feeling.

Enjoy that break in trim jail
 
Finally got everybody all trimmed up & into Grove bags to cure. I actually ran out from my previous harvest so we started in on some of it without curing. I've sampled the grape jelly and the onyx cookies and both have had a nice flavor & a nice buzz.

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Got the girls out of the veg tent into the flower tent & gave them a 2nd topping. Planning on doing my soil amendments/tea this weekend and flipping to flower in 2 weeks. Definitely nice not having to start from scratch and just being able to roll right into flowering after harvest.
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Last week for some strange reason a guy dropped off a perfectly working mini fridge that he didn't want because he found out it contains flammable refrigerant (I'm pretty sure all modern refrigerators do). He was afraid it was going to blow up his house so he just wanted it out of there. So I went ahead and took it home to experiment with making a curing fridge. It's too small to really dry in, but I'm planning on storing my Grove bags in there for curing/long term storage.

The OEM thermostat had way too wide of a temperature swing & wouldn't really run above about 40 degrees. So I found a temp/humidity controller that I can control to tenths of a degree and have gotten it to where it maintains 55-60 degrees. However I'm surprised by how much humidity builds up in there, considering it's empty at this point. It will hover around in the low 80% range. So my next plan is to order a peltier cooling unit to use as a dehumidifier. I should have taken some pictures of the project in it's current state, but I didn't think about it when I was down there taking pictures. I'll try to get some tonight and update
 
Hell yea cheers to a successful harvest man 🍻

Interested in your cure box...bud builders means ya kinda gotta show off your build haha...do it
 
Ok I swung by the house on lunch break & took a couple pictures of the mini fridge.
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Not a whole lot to it at this point. Here's the temp/humidity controller

I'm planning on using this peltier unit/power supply, which will hook to the 2 wire nutted wires to act as a dehumidifier. Think I'm going to order the other parts this weekend, will update when I have some results.


 
Just a quick update on my mini fridge project. So I got everything & it's up & running, what I will say is that it's not perfect. The peltier unit does a good job keeping the humidity down, but my issue with the unit is just a downside of the compressor driven refrigeration system & exactly how it works. Cannatrols are made using peltier coolers & I now see why. As part of the cooling process dehumidification takes place. The way these mini fridges work cause them to over dehumidify (and technically over cool too).

Basically when the thermostat calls the compressor comes on & charges the cooling coil at which point cool starts to radiate off it. This process takes a minute or two and then it starts to cool. The problem is this process works in reverse when it shuts off, the box hits it's bottom temp & the compressor shuts off, but because the coils is already charged that cooling (& dehumidification by default) continues until the refrigerant all leaves the coil. Plus with the peltier dehumidifier keeping the humidity lower on the off cycle its starting at 60% instead of about 85% without the dehumidifier. So now it's really pulling down to pretty low humidity (about 30-35%). At this point I'm just storing grove bags in there so I'm hoping that will somewhat buffer the fluctuating humidity. In order to really get it perfectly right I'll need a Peltier wine cooler, but this mini fridge was free so it'll do for now.20240214_213005.jpg
 
Can you use external air exchange to flatten the hills and valleys? At tiny blower like on a 3D printer head might not be too bad to add in and will help keep your lung room drier at bit maybe?
 
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Scotty 420 said:
Just a quick update on my mini fridge project. So I got everything & it's up & running, what I will say is that it's not perfect. The peltier unit does a good job keeping the humidity down, but my issue with the unit is just a downside of the compressor driven refrigeration system & exactly how it works. Cannatrols are made using peltier coolers & I now see why. As part of the cooling process dehumidification takes place. The way these mini fridges work cause them to over dehumidify (and technically over cool too).

Basically when the thermostat calls the compressor comes on & charges the cooling coil at which point cool starts to radiate off it. This process takes a minute or two and then it starts to cool. The problem is this process works in reverse when it shuts off, the box hits it's bottom temp & the compressor shuts off, but because the coils is already charged that cooling (& dehumidification by default) continues until the refrigerant all leaves the coil. Plus with the peltier dehumidifier keeping the humidity lower on the off cycle its starting at 60% instead of about 85% without the dehumidifier. So now it's really pulling down to pretty low humidity (about 30-35%). At this point I'm just storing grove bags in there so I'm hoping that will somewhat buffer the fluctuating humidity. In order to really get it perfectly right I'll need a Peltier wine cooler, but this mini fridge was free so it'll do for now.View attachment 45331
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The thermo electric humidors work good. It's hard to find a larger thermo electric whine cooler.i had the same problem with the compressor driven ones.
 
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Moe.Red said:
Can you use external air exchange to flatten the hills and valleys? At tiny blower like on a 3D printer head might not be too bad to add in and will help keep your lung room drier at bit maybe?
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That could work, but would require cutting a pretty decent size hole in the side of a mini fridge. I also considered a small humidifier but that would either take up already limited space in the box or also need to be piped in from outside & I was trying to avoid drilling holes in this thing at all, much less the sizes I would need to vent in air or humidity from the outside.
 
I just grabbed this one .looks just like my buddies canatroler. I can't bring myself to dump 1800 on a canatroler they work good though.im gona put small dehu in it.should work about the same.
 
stonemason said:
I just grabbed this one .looks just like my buddies canatroler. I can't bring myself to dump 1800 on a canatroler they work good though.im gona put small dehu in it.should work about the same.
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Literally I don't think there's any difference other that their control screen which could pretty easily be replaced by a controller 69. Otherwise it's just their proprietary software as far as what temps & humidities to maintain for drying/curing. But I'm the same way I want a Cannatrol but given what it actually is I can justify over $1500 for it.
 
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