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tobh's troll cave

It looks so badass bud!

You seriously thinkin about chopping Christmas Eve? That’s seriously a committed grower!

I start MOAB tomorrow and 4 weeks to go! I can only hope I end up close to as good as your grow looks!!!!
 
In other news, poured some plates today to run a new series of experiments with the pan cyans. Hence, the black plates. Mixed slightly softer agar and added a bit of manure to the mix instead of nutritional yeast. I knew the plates would be very dirty looking since I didn't do any filtering of the media before sterilizing, so half a gram of activated charcoal was added to hide the ugliness.

Other plates are looking fantastic though!
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tobh said:
I did indeed
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Very nice. I have been watching stuff all week on constructing one. So do you put the petri right into your grain spawn or do you make a liquid culture and inject it?are those seeded from spores or clones.
 
stonemason said:
Very nice. I have been watching stuff all week on constructing one. So do you put the petri right into your grain spawn or do you make a liquid culture and inject it?are those seeded from spores or clones.
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It depends. Lately I've been making LCs as they scale better but with the pan cyans I'll be doing agar to grain.

The pink oyster and lions mane are both clones, everything else originated as multispore.

This is the full "battle station." 24"x36" flowhood sitting on a 4'x4' table. Arguably one of the best investments I've made in this venture.

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stonemason said:
Very nice. Do you put your grain spawn in a incubator or just let it grow at room temp?
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Room temp, for now. I've been on the hunt for a burn out mini fridge so I can at least maintain temps for agar cultures in a more stable and consistent way.

Still in the fledgling stages on this part of the farm build out, though, so long term I'll have dedicated rooms for each stage, and potentially even specific varieties. For instance, pink oysters and pan cyans are tropical and don't do well in the PNW due to the temps, whereas reishi, lions mane, blue oysters, and cordiceps all can thrive here. So, dedicated spaces will unlock different verticals and give me an edge on the competitors I'll be selling next to.
 
tobh said:
Room temp, for now. I've been on the hunt for a burn out mini fridge so I can at least maintain temps for agar cultures in a more stable and consistent way.

Still in the fledgling stages on this part of the farm build out, though, so long term I'll have dedicated rooms for each stage, and potentially even specific varieties. For instance, pink oysters and pan cyans are tropical and don't do well in the PNW due to the temps, whereas reishi, lions mane, blue oysters, and cordiceps all can thrive here. So, dedicated spaces will unlock different verticals and give me an edge on the competitors I'll be selling next to.
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Get one that is thermoelectric not a compressor if you don't want swings in your humidity. I made that mistake when I was building my drying chamber for canabiss. Every time the compressor kicks on it shoots from 70% to like 35%. check out the temp adjustable humidors for cigars to,they are all most always thermoelectric.
 
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stonemason said:
Get one that is thermoelectric not a compressor if you don't swings in your humidity. I made that mistake when I was building my drying chamber for canabiss. Every time the compressor kicks on it shoots from 70% to like 35%. check out the temp adjustable humidors for cigars to,they are all most always thermoelectric.
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Great call out. I'm not terribly worried about humidity with the agar plates, but it can be an issue with spawn. Given the scale I plan to get to, I rather not have the spawn in the house at all. CO2 becomes a serious issue at scale and my other ventures simply won't be able to compete.
 
stonemason said:
Nice set up.realy inspiring. Buds look beyond amazing 👏
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Appreciate that. They're coming down this weekend. Trichomes have clouded up and I'm seeing amber in more places so I'm just giving them a few days to ripen and eliminate any remaining nutrients in the media. First smoke reports should come out mid January, maybe early February depending how soon I choose to let samples go out.
 
Lol sorry to drill ya with so many questions. I have messed around with mushroom cultivation in the past.i hunt the wild ones when I can . I have been thinking about getting back into it.
I have actually been catching and breeding old growth forest microbes (fungi and bacteria)the last few years.it all realy amazes me.
 
stonemason said:
Lol sorry to drill ya with so many questions. I have messed around with mushroom cultivation in the past.i hunt the wild ones when I can . I have been thinking about getting back into it.
I have actually been catching and breeding old growth forest microbes (fungi and bacteria)the last few years.it all realy amazes me.
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All good man. I got into mycology as a teenager just looking to get high, but now it's become a core component to how I intend on building out the farm on my land.

Sure, I'll continue to grow the actives on a small scale but the edibles and medicinals are critical to the overall food forest I aspire to build. Having a clean stream of air was an absolute necessity to make the most basic building block of the soil web a reality.

Everything else from that point is just old habits being used for good in a lot of ways.
 
Preview of the goods. Trim jail continues but I have bigger trees to worry about and the garage has made for a rather good dry/cure space while I drag ass on getting these donePXL_20240103_200824941.jpg
 
Wow! The multi coloring throughout the flower is really nice. Great job!

Seeing that photo reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite philosophers....

"All I want are some tasty buds and some cool waves!" - Jeff Spicoli
 
I'm back bitches :cool:

Some updates in progress, but I'm ramping back up for another cold, sticky winter run. The troll cave is firing back up in full force, going recirculating DTW this round. Per usual I'm relying on the lessons @Dirtbag has been so gracious to share, and hopefully I'll be able to be extra lazy on the grow and focus on the chaos that which is my life while the grass does what grass does.

Stay tuned for some clever engineering as the last mile is proving a brain teaser.
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tobh said:
I'm back bitches :cool:

Some updates in progress, but I'm ramping back up for another cold, sticky winter run. The troll cave is firing back up in full force, going recirculating DTW this round. Per usual I'm relying on the lessons @Dirtbag has been so gracious to share, and hopefully I'll be able to be extra lazy on the grow and focus on the chaos that which is my life while the grass does what grass does.

Stay tuned for some clever engineering as the last mile is proving a brain teaser.
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That tent to the right looks familiar…🍄
 
Zen_seeker said:
Daughter played him and others so much I got to like it. Still pop in a cd in the car once in a while. Get strange looks in the city with windows down and a old white guy driving. 🤣

Daughter still loves him. Keeps looking for some spaghetti sauce he made. 🤷‍♂️
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Without disclosing too much, what was the 3rd number of the year you were born in? Just because I'm curious. Need it for the mental image: old man blasting Marshal Mathers LP, looking for mom's spaghetti sauce (pro tip: dollar store ketchup with some salt, pepper, garlic powder, lemon juice, and a little water to loosen it up).
 
tobh said:
I'm back bitches :cool:

Some updates in progress, but I'm ramping back up for another cold, sticky winter run. The troll cave is firing back up in full force, going recirculating DTW this round. Per usual I'm relying on the lessons @Dirtbag has been so gracious to share, and hopefully I'll be able to be extra lazy on the grow and focus on the chaos that which is my life while the grass does what grass does.

Stay tuned for some clever engineering as the last mile is proving a brain teaser.
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Try not to over complicate anything bud. I am a DTW advocate because even my half smart ole ass can do it blindfolded.

I think the majority of the growers I talk to run EBB and FLO is because drains are a bitch if the grow area isn’t built from the ground up.

I do not think either way costs less or produces better results. That’s all in the growers ability.

However DTW set up correctly is a lot less work than any style IMO.

PEACE
 
LJFarming said:
Try not to over complicate anything bud. I am a DTW advocate because even my half smart ole ass can do it blindfolded.

I think the majority of the growers I talk to run EBB and FLO is because drains are a bitch if the grow area isn’t built from the ground up.

I do not think either way costs less or produces better results. That’s all in the growers ability.

However DTW set up correctly is a lot less work than any style IMO.

PEACE
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Don't tempt me back in that direction lol been there, done that, and still of the mind greener pastures are in the more complicated methods. One of my favorite albums is called Found in the Flood, after all...

 
LJFarming said:
Try not to over complicate anything bud. I am a DTW advocate because even my half smart ole ass can do it blindfolded.

I think the majority of the growers I talk to run EBB and FLO is because drains are a bitch if the grow area isn’t built from the ground up.

I do not think either way costs less or produces better results. That’s all in the growers ability.

However DTW set up correctly is a lot less work than any style IMO.

PEACE
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Can't really argue here, especially if you're using bulk salts for nutrients. In my particular case my issue was a very limited water supply to my grow shed. By reusing runoff from the tables and drain water from the dehu, I only had to top off my holding tank with fresh water and nutrients about 20% as often as I did running dtw. Was also running dynagro nutrients that weren't the cheapest.

I did also find it easier in the sense that I didn't need to mix nutrients nearly as often. And I liked the fact that extremely little if anything got wasted. Probably close to 1/10 the amount of water and nutrients wasted.
 
I have never ran E&F or Flood and drain however my 2 bros do. We all three run 6 lights or three 4x8 trays. We all have very similar size sealed rooms and environmental controls and equipment and live in the same area as far as everything else goes.

All 3 of us are on the electric car rate plan from our provider. This lowers your power bill 40+% were we live and believe me not one of us redneck hillbilly’s even knows anyone with an electric car let alone owns one. This is just a informative call to the power company informing them that you are the proud owner of a said new fancy electric car. No Pink Slip/registration needed.

Both bros use $1100-1200 in nutrient'S and inputs per grow and I use less that $400 per grow.

They mix 125 gallon reservoirs weekly add water and have to reset pH regularly.

With DTW I mix 100-150 gallons per week of nutrients and inputs and never have to drain Reservoirs nor clean them until the end of a run.

So this is why I feel there is very little waste in DTW and I GUARANTEE YOU it is incredibly less work running DTW. This guy does a very good job of explaining it however I do not recommend 75% of the shit he promotes/advertises.

Dr Coco – Coco For Cannabis

www.cocoforcannabis.com www.cocoforcannabis.com

We can have the quality discussion if anyone wants however they will whole heartedly agree that I Grow better dope!

They have been growing 10-15 years longer than me and I have always helped and learned from them however I got to retire first and have more time than money and possibly brains and really enjoy comparing our crops! Unfortunately for them over the last 5 years they sure do enjoy my crop and cry about theirs more often than not.

PEACE
 
Unfortunately my dumb ass left the Advanced professor out of my last post coco for cannabis is good beginning info.

However if you’re polite and respectful and he has time Aquaman might have time to get back to you if you are not asking questions he has already posted on his threads. He has definitely helped me more than anyone on any recent forums💯

Peace

Aquaman sorry I left you out of the above post! You seriously deserve kudos and have helped me through several potential disasters
 
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Unfortunately my dumb ass left the Advanced professor out of my last post coco for cannabis is good beginning info.

However if you’re polite and respectful and he has time Aquaman might have time to get back to you if you are not asking questions he has already posted on his threads. He has definitely helped me more than anyone on any recent forums💯

Peace

Aquaman sorry I left you out of the above post! You seriously deserve kudos and have helped me through several potential disasters
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You @Dirtbag and @tobh all know a shit ton brother. We all learn together as a community. When i started i was just a fish breeder/keeper. Communities like this provide all the knowledge anyone could ask for if they want to put in the time to learn it.

This community kicks ass and tons of knowledge flowing through it from staff to new members
 
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