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[GoodShit97]

Wait till your kids start driving.kiss your hair good bye

I got 9 years at minimum for that i dont wanna think about it lmao

 

[Franksta]

Funny when Adam got his free spiderfarmer she bashed my hlg, s called me a liar when I gave my opinion - in the end I have a sf1000 that I won in some gives way that I clone under - gave the others away! Even my kingbrites outperform them - one day I’ll move to the bar lights but jeez just dropped a couple G’s less than 2 years for the boards I got

My light sitting in the crawl space of my truck. My customs are sitting right here...


It's a cheapo light that's good for veggies IMO also. Too much stretching and bluish color for flowers... No quality penetration whatsoever. Buds were lacking density. More dry weights less oily

I used mine one run and never even put up the results. Cause I knew it would start problems

 

[Franksta]

Plus I believe spider farmer THC farmer AKA logic is all the same thing...

He would never answer the question when I asked him on multiple occasions about the ownership

TBH I think he's pimpin them in other spots on the web and maybe the farm isn't as important as it may have been in the past for him to peddle his products

I think he owns both companies and always has

 

[Observer]

Plus I believe spider farmer THC farmer AKA logic is all the same thing...

He would never answer the question when I asked him on multiple occasions about the ownership

That would make sense banning all the vipar sponsorees too

But idk, nor what ALL transpired.

 

[Franksta]

That would make sense banning all the vipar sponsorees too

I helped him investigate the tech to revamp his light lineup several years ago when I made some custom stuff and seen the choices he made and I knew it would be mediocre at best

 

[Franksta]

Some light are engineer towards end weight and some other for overall quality

He went for dry weights. How can an engineer who don't grow reefer make a compelling setup??? Impossible

 

[Observer]

Some light are engineer towards end weight and some other for overall quality

As in, producing a spectrum for yield?

Or literal weight/quality of fixture

 

[Franksta]

As in, producing a spectrum for yield?

Or literal weight/quality of fixture

Yeah yield of dry weights versus a higher quality product that was exposed to optimize diodes


For me, It's not about efficiency always (it's always a big consideration) so much as about the correct spectra...

I'll take a 1 or 2 or maybe even 5% hit in efficiency for a superior end product

 

[Franksta]

Bottom line is that quality diodes cost $$$. That's why these clowns like spider farmer blend weird choices.

Lighting in a nutshell is about spectra ratios and intensity

Intensity is pretty cheap these days but quality spectrum isn't...

 

[Franksta]

Spectra transform nodal development and bush thickness. Cellular division.. It also guide hormone development and physical traits in the plants that have space advantage. Taste advantage. Potency and overall complexity advantage

SF lights simply don't measure up in anyway IMO. From the footprint to the diodes to the spectrum choice. It's lacking on multiple fronts

 

[Observer]

Spectra transform nodal development and bush thickness. Cellular division.. It also guide hormone development and physical traits in the plants that have space advantage. Taste advantage. Potency and overall complexity advantage

SF lights simply don't measure up in anyway IMO. From the footprint to the diodes to the spectrum choice. It's lacking on multiple fronts

They always seemed overpriced for what they offer, to me.

 

[Observer]

Yeah yield of dry weights versus a higher quality product that was exposed to optimize diodes


For me, It's not about efficiency always (it's always a big consideration) so much as about the correct spectra...

I'll take a 1 or 2 or maybe even 5% hit in efficiency for a superior end product

I'd agree.

1.Quality
2.efficiency

 

[steamroller]

Welcome MIgrampa~!
Glad you found us.

 

[Pipecarver]

Bro this "Valerie" from Vipar wanted a blood sample, semen, a post every 8 minutes on Insta, FB, "the place with no name" in 3 threads, YoutTube, full rights to literally anything and everything, had to be listed like "ASLDHA:KDJ:LJKDA:" exactly, and didn't tell me about this said contract until after tell me I was being gifted a XS-1500 that I actually was super excited about cause my 600w Blackbirds are just overkill for seedlings.
She had me going for months man. I was like you have to be kidding with all of these requirements, contracts to sign, etc. She's like ok how about this! And it would be 3% less ridiculous at most. Not sure if she was a newbie or what but we went quick from what I felt was I won a light, to straight up unpaid "influencer" contracted for an entire grow, then turned into they wanted to send me a tent and 3 different lights for each growth phase, but the requirements were too much. The signing a contract part I just couldn't get over. For a $200 light tops? naw I will stick with my HLG's for meow

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I had to sign a contract with SF to post 3 times a week until Aug for the last G3000 they sent me but they've left me alone. She tell me more pics including the light every now and then but no hassling me about it. I was hoping to get an SE5000 from them the next time but I guess that's done for now. SF was good to me with 4 lights and 2 tents from them over the past few years and I like their stuff so it was no sweat for me to post 3 times weekly.

 

[Pipecarver]

@Pipecarver are you banned too? What are the sponsors going to say when the ones showing off their gear have gone MIA?

I contacted them and I'm good to go on here. Chita is my contact with them and she said she understands. I think they had trouble with the Farm as well because they pulled out and stopped sponsoring the site a while back. She took a screen shot of my page here and posted it back to me letting me know alls good..

 

[Coco Lopez]

Haha i ended up taking the deal.
I got a ks3000, a 2x2, and an xs1500 pro. Contract was for 12 months, or 3 full grows. Plus a bunch of other threads i needed to post.

Now im 100% out of it and got to keep the stuff. Best deal i ever made lmao

that is fkin AWESOME and yup now that I think about it I botched that as bad as saying no winning the Phlizon FD-8000 and saying "Oh you are offering me a 6500 now because the 8000 is out of stock till 15th? Naw I'm good tyvm but I'd like to wait

Well shit that is 4 lights I botched somehow lmfao

 

[Coco Lopez]

Man that's a far cry from the days of the local hydroshop owner giving me something for free and just wanting me to tell him if I like it or not the next time I was in the shop. Hard to tell if they're selling lights or timeshares with that tactic. Blaring sirens and flashing warming lights all over that one

Can say that again. Pissed me off cause I actually needed a small light for seedlings and was totally fine making a grow journal and trying to make it look good. But then the contract came from "way east" and shit took some time just to read. Felt like I was applying for a $0 salary marketing job with upfront $150 light as new-hire package

 

[GoodShit97]

Can say that again. Pissed me off cause I actually needed a small light for seedlings and was totally fine making a grow journal and trying to make it look good. But then the contract came from "way east" and shit took some time just to read. Felt like I was applying for a $0 salary marketing job with upfront $150 light as new-hire package

I have 3 of these. I could send you one if you covered shipping. Id do it but im a broke joke right now
Wouldnt send this one, it stays in my shed which is wide open to the elements. I have 2 more inside lol.

Theyre 100 watt boards.

 

[Pipecarver]

I cant help but laugh… he must be chugging red bulls staring at the posts here 24/7 screaming to himself and anyone else who will listen to his BS lies. All the shit i found out about him in the last few days makes me feel dirty for even being a part of that site and defending him and his actions all those years.

And now ill drop it because he isn’t even relevant

The Bookmarks on my desktops I used to access that site are now gone.....just like yahoo....Fox...and a few others and once they're gone I don't miss them or think about them again...right click delete and the poof is gone

 

[Coco Lopez]

I had to sign a contract with SF to post 3 times a week until Aug for the last G3000 they sent me but they've left me alone. She tell me more pics including the light every now and then but no hassling me about it. I was hoping to get an SE5000 from them the next time but I guess that's done for now. SF was good to me with 4 lights and 2 tents from them over the past few years and I like their stuff so it was no sweat for me to post 3 times weekly.

Shit mine was with VS and if I had to post 3x a week I would have. Was already even planning to with the journal. But blood samples, pics of my mom gardening, and some of my dog Oly's hair for DNA? hell naw too much

 

[Coco Lopez]

I have 3 of these. I could send you one if you covered shipping. Id do it but im a broke joke right now
Wouldnt send this one, it stays in my shed which is wide open to the elements. I have 2 more inside lol.

Theyre 100 watt boards.

Wow that's a wicked generous offer bud and thanks much. I would like to take you up on that but in a couple months. I have a UPS account we could use, I could send you the shipping label, and also some $ and Beans to boot

 

[GoodShit97]

Wow that's a wicked generous offer bud and thanks much. I would like to take you up on that but in a couple months. I have a UPS account we could use, I could send you the shipping label, and also some $ and Beans to boot

The offer stands whenever you're ready bro.
I want nothing in return, it was a 30 dollar light man, i just wanna help out is all. Had plenty of people help me out and now its my turn lol.

 

[Coco Lopez]

Sweeeeeeet @freezeland and @MiGrampa

Always enjoyed followin your knowledge-bombs and learnin from ya. Glad to see yall

 

[Coco Lopez]

The offer stands whenever you're ready bro.
I want nothing in return, it was a 30 dollar light man, i just wanna help out is all. Had plenty of people help me out and now its my turn lol.

It will be perfect and has sentimental value My 600w HLG Blackbirds for seedling stage is meh at best. Be like using a Scorpion Diablo for a clone

 

[GoodShit97]

The offer stands whenever you're ready bro.
I want nothing in return, it was a 30 dollar light man, i just wanna help out is all. Had plenty of people help me out and now its my turn lol.

I might even still have the box it came in

 

[GoodShit97]

It will be perfect and has sentimental value My 600w HLG Blackbirds for seedling stage is meh at best. Be like using a Scorpion Diablo for a clone

I ran 2 of them in a 3x3 seed to harvest and I was very pleased with how well they worked. They just dont sell them anymore.

 

[Pipecarver]

Shit mine was with VS and if I had to post 3x a week I would have. Was already even planning to with the journal. But blood samples, pics of my mom gardening, and some of my dog Oly's hair for DNA? hell naw too much

They've been good to me, I've followed through with my obligation to them and after each contract has been completed I contacted them and asked for another light or tent. I'd asked for a 5x5 tent and before they said yes I had the tent at my door, It was like they shipped it the day I sent the email and they replied 3 - 4 days later and said I needed to sign a contract........ah.....okay thanks....

 

[MiGrampa]

Well guys, it happened sometime over night. I'm not IP banned but my account disappeared from his site. Just goes to show his true character ... I wasn't there to help him. I was there to help fellow growers. It's really no big deal. The bigger deal is being able to hang out with the guys I have for the last 3-4 years.

At any rate. I'm done looking in the past. It's history now ...

Ok guys, have fun! Pizza is here .... gonna eat.

 

[Observer]

They've been good to me, I've followed through with my obligation to them and after each contract has been completed I contacted them and asked for another light or tent. I'd asked for a 5x5 tent and before they said yes I had the tent at my door,

It was like they shipped it the day I sent the email and they replied 3 - 4 days later and said I needed to sign a contract........ah.....okay thanks....

that last bit is shady but hey free shit.

and if you break the "Contract" what are they gonna do?

 

[steamroller]

and if you break the "Contract" what are they gonna do?