First Time.

[Aqua Man]

How many tap roots can you have per plant?
Moes root picture, would you call the black line a tap root and the yellow fibrous?

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The tap root is the initial root from a seed. The rest are just roots… clones don’t even have a tap root

 

[Aqua Man]

1 if it is from seed.

0 if clone.

Lol well i know who i dont wanna go up against on family feud… buzzer beater there

 

[moe.red]

My advice? Quit counting days. Let the plant do what it needs to regardless of the timing.

For me, I react to what the plant gives me and what space I am trying to fill rather than looking at a calendar. The only dates that really matter are when you germ and when you harvest - the rest are just sorta rules of thumb.

 

[Aqua Man]

My advice? Quit counting days. Let the plant do what it needs to regardless of the timing.

For me, I react to what the plant gives me and what space I am trying to fill rather than looking at a calendar. The only dates that really matter are when you germ and when you harvest - the rest are just sorta rules of thumb.

This… there is no set it at this for this day etc…. They are nothing more than guidelines always go by the plants and never a schedule

 

[Rootsruler]

Your tap root is probably hidden inside the Hydroton and the hangers are the basal, secondary and tertiary roots.

 

[GrumpAzz]

My advice? Quit counting days. Let the plant do what it needs to regardless of the timing.

I like this for sure. I just see people say "vegged for so many weeks" or whatever and was wondering how you keep track of that.

 

[Aqua Man]

I like this for sure. I just see people say "vegged for so many weeks" or whatever and was wondering how you keep track of that.

Write the date it sprouts on the calendar… then youll always know

 

[GrumpAzz]

Write the date it sprouts on the calendar… then youll always know

She sprouted on my daughter's first birthday

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just found this on SF's website. I must've thought I read 12 for flower and 18 for veg. I'll be hoisting it up another 6 inches promptly.
@Aqua Man

 

[GrumpAzz]

These are my two new tops. What's going on with that guy? Instead of coming out of the crotch, it decided to make a new crotch?

 

[Aqua Man]

These are my two new tops. What's going on with that guy? Instead of coming out of the crotch, it decided to make a new crotch?View attachment 6029

Alternating nodes already? Maybe just a quirk

 

[Shaded]

With my SE3000/SF4000 I would always start at about 20% intensity and like 2-4 feet away from seedlings. As they naturally grow/get bigger they would get more intense PPFD and then I would just turn up the intensity as the plant matured.

 

[moe.red]

With my SE3000/SF4000 I would always start at about 20% intensity and like 2-4 feet away from seedlings. As they naturally grow/get bigger they would get more intense PPFD and then I would just turn up the intensity as the plant matured.

I’m weird but I wear it well.

I base early ppfd on the roots as much as the green part. With small roots you can get the top asking for more than the roots can provide at higher ppfd.

I get no where near 100% until the roots are bigger than the veg growth.

Every plant is a little different.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Here we are tonight. She's a beaut!
These dudes are finally losing their green.

 

[Rootsruler]

She's getting ready to shift gears....

 

[Zen_seeker]

I like this for sure. I just see people say "vegged for so many weeks" or whatever and was wondering how you keep track of that.

I do it for my own reasons. I test ideas and needed a way to tell difference. People were already doing this so it fit.

As an example I keep new clones like mothers. (Still working on no deficiencies) This is so I can slow things down and buy time for the flowering plants. By keeping a day count I know how long I’ve had her in that stage. Weeks I just add, no reason.

I don’t even know what I have. I just know we like it. So I have no idea when things are supposed to happen.

Plus I do think longer vegging improves harvest with more/larger branches and roots but that’s more opinion than fact ATM. But at some point I’ll see if a pattern emerges.

Edit: Lastly most nutrient charts I’ve seen go by weeks. Some 1-15 others Sprout 1/3 Veg 1/4 Flower 1/8 that sort of thing.

 

[GrumpAzz]

7 blades on her newest set

 

[Zen_seeker]

She’s happy.

 

[moe.red]

Grump, you are doing something right. Keep it up.

 

[GrumpAzz]

She’s happy.

Grump, you are doing something right. Keep it up.

Thanks guys! I love it!

 

[GrumpAzz]

Peeked in through the window to see today's growth just now and man... I can't even tell what's going on in there. It's busy!

 

[GrumpAzz]

There's a lot going on here. This all kinda blows me away. You guys are awesome and we wouldn't be here without your help.

 

[Rootsruler]

When are you going to start training?

 

[Cool_Beans]

Looks great dude.I love watching the lower nodes come to life after the plant gets topped. Like a race to take over for the missing leader.

 

[GrumpAzz]

When are you going to start training?

I'd been thinking of letting her stretch out a bit but now that I look at her with training in mind... it would open her up some and allow everyone a little better light. I'll think about doing something tonight.

Stay tuned.

 

[GrumpAzz]

When are you going to start training?

Should LST be done in the morning hours or is it better to give her a nights rest after the stress?

Edit - Google says to do it just before lights out. I assumed so since that's what I found or topping. I'll keep you updated.

 

[Rootsruler]

Should LST be done in the morning hours or is it better to give her a nights rest after the stress?

Edit - Google says to do it just before lights out. I assumed so since that's what I found or topping. I'll keep you updated.

I don't think it really matters although I would imagine it would be best to do it where they have time to rebound from being manhandled. Is that under lights or in the dark? Not sure.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Well I'm gonna smoke a little more with the miss. Then I'll head back and figure something out. Might tie one side down and use the LST clips on the other... see what happens.

Maybe I'll treat her like @Cool_Beans and just drop the People's Elbow

 

[GrumpAzz]

When are you going to start training?

Little too small to reach my rings and for the clips as well, so I just trimmed 2 of the older leaves and bent over the 4 main stalks.

 

[GrumpAzz]

The growth in 10 days has been eye-opening.