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New Grow - 4 Site RDWC Maiden Voyage

Had to show off this awesome water pump @steamroller generously gifted to me! I stopped at the hardware store and got the fittings, gonna get this bad Oscar plugged in this weekend. Thanks again SR, awesome bro!
 

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SweetLeafGrow said:
Had to show off this awesome water pump @steamroller generously gifted to me! I stopped at the hardware store and got the fittings, gonna get this bad Oscar plugged in this weekend. Thanks again SR, awesome bro!
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He's such a solid dude, have not seen him much lately hope all is well. I'll bet he is busy with work due to spring.
 
Gonna get this figured out. I need a new phone anyway, I'm like at iPhone 6, way past time. I will never pay the price for the new phones so perhaps a version 10 or something will do the job.

My beautiful wife has been my defecto light timer while I am out of town, she's doing a great job!
 
Finally finding time to sit down today, spent the whole day in my garden for the first time. Holy cow, this 4 site system is a lot more work than I am used to!

Anyhow, I was able to pull the two younger plants out of the system using Moe's Cannabis Caddies but because I have been so buried in life, I was unable to get in and do what needed to be done on Thursday, which was defoliating a bunch and changing out the res. Did all that today but as a result, the two older plants root ball was too big to bring out with the Caddies, so had to crawl in and do them the ole fashioned way, lol, shoulda seen me.

Got the res drained out and the new pump from Steam installed, works great, thanks again bud! Started out with ppm of about 100, still not sure what is contaminating my RO tank. I did half strength medium feed from the GH chart with ratios for early bloom, that with the calmag and AgSil16 got me up around 700, a bit more than I would have liked but 600 above the starting water I did not think too bad. I do know they looked super happy before I manually turned off the light tonight. I was also surprised to see that after doing some other work in the garden, a couple of hours later I checked the water level and they had already drank a full gallon in that time, I was pretty surprised to see that! Everyone was praying pretty good when lights went out. I will check in the morning and see if perhaps I may need to dilute the res some, I'm trying to get used to running lower ppms this go around, thanks guys who helped me figure this out!

Looks like my very helpful wife found me an iphone 11 for a pretty good price so once I get that ordered and here, I will finally be able to control this light. For now, I am just doing it manually, 8 and 8 it's gonna be.

Here are some photos from earlier today with a couple of before's. Thinking in 3 or 4 days you won't be able to tell I did anything!IMG_2631.JPGIMG_2632.JPGIMG_2633.JPGIMG_2634.JPGIMG_2635.JPGIMG_2636.JPGIMG_2638.JPGIMG_2639.JPGIMG_2640.JPG
 
Looking good, if your bothered by the extra work now your going to hate harvest. You just may make it to the 500 club yet.

Edit; which plant is in the white 5 gal bucket?
 
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Man I really hope the phone works. I never had any of these issues, my lights have been solid from day 1 in every way once I got past the learning curve.

The holes on the twist locks are as big as I can make them on my printer, and they really can’t be much larger and still fit in the lids. There is definitely a point where pulling the plants out will be destructive to the roots. But we had that on the big netpots too.

I think you might have vegged a bit longer than necessary. Damn light app. I hope it’s not too hard to work on the back this go. I hate that too.
 
Moe.Red said:
Man I really hope the phone works. I never had any of these issues, my lights have been solid from day 1 in every way once I got past the learning curve.

The holes on the twist locks are as big as I can make them on my printer, and they really can’t be much larger and still fit in the lids. There is definitely a point where pulling the plants out will be destructive to the roots. But we had that on the big netpots too.

I think you might have vegged a bit longer than necessary. Damn light app. I hope it’s not too hard to work on the back this go. I hate that too.
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One good thing about dirt and pots is I can move the 2 gallon containers anywhere I want! Lol
 
Hope everyone is having a great day!

I noticed something going on with these plants this morning and curious what ya'all think. I think I might have got a small bit of light burn after I got home on Saturday. I had raised the light more than normal before I left on Thursday because I was going to be gone for two days and anticipated the light would need to be raised and I did not want to trouble MrsSweetLeaf to do more than she was doing for me already. I do think I have the light safely high enough atm.

The discolorations on some of the fans have me a bit concerned and I do not think they are light related...see photos. I changed out the res on Saturday when I got home to week 1 bloom ratios, was riding at about 720 ppms, I diluted that down a bit and now it's sitting at 680. To me, this looks like a deficiency but I wanted to get some more experienced eyes on these and see what gives?

If you look close, you can also see some weird leaf twisting going on too. Wondering if that is related to the light.

I was getting a bit of leaf to leaf transpiration as see in last photo but got another fan in there blowing under the canopy so hopefully that will put an end to that. Going to need to do another defoliation again soon to prevent too much of this.

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I would say yes Smoke, seems to be the older ones.
 
^^ I was scared to say it^^
Was trying to work up the courage to say something more sophisticated like P or K..
They say calcium uptake is the most in the first 2 weeks of flower?
 
Right on, you thinking a ml per gallon? When I did the res change, I did 5ml per gallon based on 28 gallons so 140 ml at the res change out.
 
I would shoot for 100PPM boost, whatever amount that takes.

You are getting up there in PPMS again tho...

Sometimes this is like trying to ride a unicycle on a beach ball.

Personally, I'd dump half the water volume, refill with RO to cut the PPM in half, then bring PPM up 100 with cal mag. Let it suck on that for a day or 2. It won't take long if I am right. But these leaves will not heal, it will just stop new bad spots, primarily on larger fan leaves is where you see this.
 
BTW - I literally just went thru this same exact thing with my current grow. I was fine 1 day later.

Here is what I’m playing with now

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I've got this spot in my tent where these COB lights will turn the bud crystal white. Some folks say it is trichomes on top of trichomes, and that they are desirable and the most potent.

I'm calling bullshit.

So I'm purposefully letting this top cola go white, and I will measure any THC differences between this bud and others. I expect to find none.

But this is the plant that had calcium def. Can't see it now, can you? Just a little edge curl due to light intensity up there.
 
Exactly what your going through now, cal mag youll have about 7-8ml/gal by the time you do what Moe recommends. Id do exactly the same. They are calcium pigs
 
Got er done, was sitting at ~725, now at ~540 give or take. Thanks guys!

BTW, those photos are beautiful, especially the 2nd one, wow.
 
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Edit; which plant is in the white 5 gal bucket?
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Heck Smoke, I must have missed this question from you, don't remember seeing it.

I think that one in the small white bucket was the one in front right when I pulled it out to trim and train then put it back in the system. The two in the front were the only ones I could get out because the root balls in the back were too big.
 
SweetLeafGrow said:
Heck Smoke, I must have missed this question from you, don't remember seeing it.

I think that one in the small white bucket was the one in front right when I pulled it out to trim and train then put it back in the system. The two in the front were the only ones I could get out because the root balls in the back were too big.
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Thanks i though it was one of the smaller ones I just wanted to see if she if she straightened out when you put her back in her original home.

Just looking at her in that white bucket she doesn't look happy imo

Edit: there is no sign to my eyes of a calcium def on that particular plant
 
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smoke said:
Edit: there is no sign to my eyes of a calcium def on that particular plant
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Thanks bro, it was definitely showing on the two older plants. Lights should be on soon so I will check very shortly and see how they are doing this morning. Before lights out last night, they looked super happy and were praying pretty good.
 
Got in and took a look, everything is looking pretty good from what I can tell. I do believe they are starting to show the pre-flowers already, definitely making progress! They drank about 2 gallons overnight.

Took a short video and some closeups of those two in the front that are definitely showing the deficiency about as much as the older ones, perhaps a bit less but still visible.
 

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You want to make sure that going forward the problem is halted. These spots will not heal, but will not impact your grow overall if you have resolved things. I'm betting you have, but keep a close eye for new spots over the next 48.
 
Also if your PPMs are dropping, I'd hit them with the cal-mag again to bring it back up a little. It's using the calcium for new growth, and it was deficient before, so you have a little catch up to do. Adding the cal mag shifts the ratios in the right direction for this stage of growth.
 
Yes, it's working on a manual timer until I get a new phone which should be sometime next week.

ppm's had stayed almost exactly the same since I changed the res but dropped after I topped off two gallons of water this afternoon. I added 10 more ml of calmag to the res that brought it back up about 30 ppm, sitting about 540 if I remember right.

Got the net trellis installed and a bunch more branches trimmed off, raised the light some too.

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Moe.Red said:
I see calcium def on old growth, new looks great. Nice recovery.
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Thanks bro, your advice always gets me out of trouble!

I ended up adding a total of 20 ml of calmag, 10 ml two different times because I could still see it progressing after I diluted the res. After the last 10 ml everything seemed to get back in line.
 
My wife says i sweat the details and she thinks everything looks good from the highway.

Just do what my wife does and you'll ve fine
 
Moe.Red said:
Hey Mrs, if you need anything you know how to find me.
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Well, @Moe, maybe I do need some advise. About 830 this morning, pH was 5.5 and I added just over 1 gal RO water. I adjusted up with 3ml pH Up and it rose to 5.8 and then stabilized at 5.6-5.7. When I got home from work it was back to between 5.4-5.5 and PPM is 450. I could probably add another gal of water easily. Should I do a repeat of pH Up?

I talked to @SweetLeafGrow and he suggested I post it here since he's never had this problem before.
 
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