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[Star Dog]

A few pics I found, to get info together quicker i started putting seedlings under the canopy of flowering plants.

Iirc they'd had 11 days @24hrs light before going under the canopy @12-12.

more than anything I was surprised at how compact they stayed considering the light levels below a canopy, they were all males but that was irrelevantat the time it was the growth response i was interested in.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Star Dog]

I bought another 4x autopots and another reservoir, i seen everything complete for £100 minus 5%.

I don't need a another reservoir, so i thought hmm I'll try for some discount in exchange and the seller can keep the reservoir?
I emailed them and the seller replied back saying "if buy more than one autopot I get the. for £1.50 less" Hmm???
OK thanks but I'll pass, the reservoir is certainly £6

Anyhow bs aside I've got 8 autopots and two reservoirs now, well I'm expecting a delivery of another 4 etc.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Observer]

Hello Gran, this a better example on monster cropping.
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A few months later...
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If I find the pics from above I'll post them.

Cheers.

I've been able to "monster crop" just by switching to 2/2 from 16~ hours and then back.

 

[Star Dog]

I've been able to "monster crop" just by switching to 2/2 from 16~ hours and then back.

Hey bud, what are the benefits to doing that?

Ime monster cropping is growing a flowering clone to obtain that branchy structure then flowering.

Ive not got the full picture but I'm thinking to start12-12 to induce flowering then flipping back to vegging hrs and then eventually flipping back to flowering?
Thats a lot added time and expense compared to rooting a flowering clones?

Cheers buddy.

 

[Observer]

Hey bud, what are the benefits to doing that?

Ime monster cropping is growing a flowering clone to obtain that branchy structure then flowering.

Doing the same thing without having to take it all the way to flower

Should be faster, I thought.

Ive not got the full picture but I'm thinking to start12-12 to induce flowering then flipping back to vegging hrs and then eventually flipping back to flowering?
Thats a lot added time and expense compared to rooting a flowering clones?

Cheers buddy.

 

[Observer]

A while back I watched a YouTube video, tbh I don't usually watch them but I'm glad I did with this video.

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Listening to the dude I don't doubt he grows well, he's confident in what he's saying and I'm fairly certain he's not talking shit, why would anyone make it up?

Among other interesting subjects dark/lifht period gets spoken about.

I expected more light to equal more yeild, it sort of does but its not quite that straightforward for yearly turn over.

Basically his theory is the plant stays in the intermediary period longer than it does in 12-12.

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Allegedly they have faster flowering response with 10/11 hrs light.

Yes.

the "flowering" hormone accumulates in the darkness/ period.

 

[Star Dog]

Yes.

the "flowering" hormone accumulates in the darkness/ period.

Hey budd, i've messed around with flipping seedlings to 12-12 and its worked great but I've reluctance to go less?
I mean yes I definitely want to try it, but I'd be furious with myself if i fkd them up

Tbh I think the chances of them going wrong are minimal so I'm going to give it a whirl?

I've got a lot plants to deal with so limiting the height further would definitely be to my advantage?

 

[Star Dog]

Does anyone use calmag on a regular basis?

I generally don't need it for growing but I do use it for buffering coco.

It costs me £12 for 1 litre of canna calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio of 2.5% mag and 7.5% calcium.

I recently decided to try dry powder called hydrocrop, for £14 I can make 6ltr of calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio only it's roughly 6% magnesium and 18% calcium so essentially 3x more concentrated and 6x more product using dry powder.

Also if you use hydrogen peroxide frequently?
you can buy it outside of hydroponic circles for only £14/15 for 5ltr 12% as opposed to £10 per liter 12%.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Observer]

Does anyone use calmag on a regular basis?

I generally don't need it for growing but I do use it for buffering coco.

It costs me £12 for 1 litre of canna calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio of 2.5% mag and 7.5% calcium.

I recently decided to try dry powder called hydrocrop, for £14 I can make 6ltr of calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio only it's roughly 6% magnesium and 18% calcium so essentially 3x more concentrated and 6x more product using dry powder.

Also if you use hydrogen peroxide frequently?
you can buy it outside of hydroponic circles for only £14/15 for 5ltr 12% as opposed to £10 per liter 12%.

Take it easy folk's

epsom salt, and calnit.


i dont see how calmag products ARE NOT rip offs, when one can use tap and epsom salt.

i use 34% h2o2 4-8ml every gallon.

and calcium hypochlorous acid

 

[Observer]

Hey budd, i've messed around with flipping seedlings to 12-12 and its worked great but I've reluctance to go less?
I mean yes I definitely want to try it, but I'd be furious with myself if i fkd them up

Tbh I think the chances of them going wrong are minimal so I'm going to give it a whirl?

I've got a lot plants to deal with so limiting the height further would definitely be to my advantage?

so besides when, i went from 16 to 15 to 14 to 13, to initiate flower, then 12 then to 11 hours soon.

probably drop to 10 hours approaching harvest, mimicking nature.

 

[steamroller]

so besides when, i went from 16 to 15 to 14 to 13, to initiate flower, then 12 then to 11 hours soon.

probably drop to 10 hours approaching harvest, mimicking nature.

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

 

[Star Dog]

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

yes agreed, I think more light hours ultimately = better yeilds.

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

 

[Observer]

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

yes

thats why only the last week or two, you would not have reduced hours during the "bulking" phase of the buds, and then you signal to them its time to finish up, by following natures already evolved plan, mimicking the seasonal changes that also signal to the plant what it needs to be doing.

 

[Observer]

yes agreed, I think more light hours ultimately = better yeilds.

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

eh'

DLI and time for mass to actually accumulate/grow, but can only have so much DLI, right?

 

[Observer]

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

depends, what/how one wants to steer the growth of the plant.