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[Star Dog]

A few pics I found, to get info together quicker i started putting seedlings under the canopy of flowering plants.

Iirc they'd had 11 days @24hrs light before going under the canopy @12-12.

more than anything I was surprised at how compact they stayed considering the light levels below a canopy, they were all males but that was irrelevantat the time it was the growth response i was interested in.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Star Dog]

I bought another 4x autopots and another reservoir, i seen everything complete for £100 minus 5%.

I don't need a another reservoir, so i thought hmm I'll try for some discount in exchange and the seller can keep the reservoir?
I emailed them and the seller replied back saying "if buy more than one autopot I get the. for £1.50 less" Hmm???
OK thanks but I'll pass, the reservoir is certainly £6

Anyhow bs aside I've got 8 autopots and two reservoirs now, well I'm expecting a delivery of another 4 etc.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Observer]

Hello Gran, this a better example on monster cropping.
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A few months later...
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If I find the pics from above I'll post them.

Cheers.

I've been able to "monster crop" just by switching to 2/2 from 16~ hours and then back.

 

[Star Dog]

I've been able to "monster crop" just by switching to 2/2 from 16~ hours and then back.

Hey bud, what are the benefits to doing that?

Ime monster cropping is growing a flowering clone to obtain that branchy structure then flowering.

Ive not got the full picture but I'm thinking to start12-12 to induce flowering then flipping back to vegging hrs and then eventually flipping back to flowering?
Thats a lot added time and expense compared to rooting a flowering clones?

Cheers buddy.

 

[Observer]

Hey bud, what are the benefits to doing that?

Ime monster cropping is growing a flowering clone to obtain that branchy structure then flowering.

Doing the same thing without having to take it all the way to flower

Should be faster, I thought.

Ive not got the full picture but I'm thinking to start12-12 to induce flowering then flipping back to vegging hrs and then eventually flipping back to flowering?
Thats a lot added time and expense compared to rooting a flowering clones?

Cheers buddy.

 

[Observer]

A while back I watched a YouTube video, tbh I don't usually watch them but I'm glad I did with this video.

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Listening to the dude I don't doubt he grows well, he's confident in what he's saying and I'm fairly certain he's not talking shit, why would anyone make it up?

Among other interesting subjects dark/lifht period gets spoken about.

I expected more light to equal more yeild, it sort of does but its not quite that straightforward for yearly turn over.

Basically his theory is the plant stays in the intermediary period longer than it does in 12-12.

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Allegedly they have faster flowering response with 10/11 hrs light.

Yes.

the "flowering" hormone accumulates in the darkness/ period.

 

[Star Dog]

Yes.

the "flowering" hormone accumulates in the darkness/ period.

Hey budd, i've messed around with flipping seedlings to 12-12 and its worked great but I've reluctance to go less?
I mean yes I definitely want to try it, but I'd be furious with myself if i fkd them up

Tbh I think the chances of them going wrong are minimal so I'm going to give it a whirl?

I've got a lot plants to deal with so limiting the height further would definitely be to my advantage?

 

[Star Dog]

Does anyone use calmag on a regular basis?

I generally don't need it for growing but I do use it for buffering coco.

It costs me £12 for 1 litre of canna calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio of 2.5% mag and 7.5% calcium.

I recently decided to try dry powder called hydrocrop, for £14 I can make 6ltr of calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio only it's roughly 6% magnesium and 18% calcium so essentially 3x more concentrated and 6x more product using dry powder.

Also if you use hydrogen peroxide frequently?
you can buy it outside of hydroponic circles for only £14/15 for 5ltr 12% as opposed to £10 per liter 12%.

Take it easy folk's

 

[Observer]

Does anyone use calmag on a regular basis?

I generally don't need it for growing but I do use it for buffering coco.

It costs me £12 for 1 litre of canna calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio of 2.5% mag and 7.5% calcium.

I recently decided to try dry powder called hydrocrop, for £14 I can make 6ltr of calmag with roughly a 3-1 ratio only it's roughly 6% magnesium and 18% calcium so essentially 3x more concentrated and 6x more product using dry powder.

Also if you use hydrogen peroxide frequently?
you can buy it outside of hydroponic circles for only £14/15 for 5ltr 12% as opposed to £10 per liter 12%.

Take it easy folk's

epsom salt, and calnit.


i dont see how calmag products ARE NOT rip offs, when one can use tap and epsom salt.

i use 34% h2o2 4-8ml every gallon.

and calcium hypochlorous acid

 

[Observer]

Hey budd, i've messed around with flipping seedlings to 12-12 and its worked great but I've reluctance to go less?
I mean yes I definitely want to try it, but I'd be furious with myself if i fkd them up

Tbh I think the chances of them going wrong are minimal so I'm going to give it a whirl?

I've got a lot plants to deal with so limiting the height further would definitely be to my advantage?

so besides when, i went from 16 to 15 to 14 to 13, to initiate flower, then 12 then to 11 hours soon.

probably drop to 10 hours approaching harvest, mimicking nature.

 

[steamroller]

so besides when, i went from 16 to 15 to 14 to 13, to initiate flower, then 12 then to 11 hours soon.

probably drop to 10 hours approaching harvest, mimicking nature.

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

 

[Star Dog]

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

yes agreed, I think more light hours ultimately = better yeilds.

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

 

[Observer]

You're the Bugbee guy.
Really? There has to be a point of diminishing returns?
I can see 11 for sativas or maybe even last 2-3 weeks of flower.

yes

thats why only the last week or two, you would not have reduced hours during the "bulking" phase of the buds, and then you signal to them its time to finish up, by following natures already evolved plan, mimicking the seasonal changes that also signal to the plant what it needs to be doing.

 

[Observer]

yes agreed, I think more light hours ultimately = better yeilds.

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

eh'

DLI and time for mass to actually accumulate/grow, but can only have so much DLI, right?

 

[Observer]

That said there's circumstances where it appears to be beneficial to cut light hours?

depends, what/how one wants to steer the growth of the plant.

 

[Cheesey]

Hey folk's, has anyone tried grafting weed?

Bluchi with blueberry lemon shake up grafted to it.
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I'm pretty stoked with it tbh.

It's a bit of a novelty but it was fun doing, I intend to make a tri or quad pheno mum but I've too many things happening atm.

When I flower it I'll be curious to see if grafting a poor yielding plant to heavy yielding root stock will improve the yeild?

Some plants just naturally have a brute root ball and some don't.
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I've not made the connection with a big root = a heavy yeilder?
I'd like to weigh the roots to yeild ratio and whatnot but I'm just glad to get finished by that point in the grow.
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So yeah it'll be interesting to see how it goes?

Hi star dog very impressed by your previous grows man, I also share the passion for good quality cheddar haha just wanted to ask what size airpots you are using here? Are they 6ltrs?

 

[Stoneyluv]

Hi star dog very impressed by your previous grows man, I also share the passion for good quality cheddar haha just wanted to ask what size airpots you are using here? Are they 6ltrs?

Welcome to Bud Builders Cheesey!!

 

[Skinnypuppy80]

Welcome to Bud Builders @Star Dog
I believe your name is Coco where i nabbed you from
Glad to have you here either way!

u just b nabbing ppl left and right huh lol

 

[GoodShit97]

u just b nabbing ppl left and right huh lol

On occasion lol
Welcome to Bud Builders @Cheesey

 

[SiamSam]

Who cut the cheese? Well, somebody had to say it (ahem....)

 

[Star Dog]

eh'

DLI and time for mass to actually accumulate/grow, but can only have so much DLI, right?

Nearly a year late idk how I missed it bud my apologies.

Yes on paper more dli = more yeild but that's overlooking the morphological benefits, faster flowering times and shorter more compact plants that less hrs give.

10/11hrs for the same age has better buds imo, 12/13hrs would yeild more if you wanted to wait the extra time but more plants offsets any loss.

With plants short and compact they don't encroach on the neighbours I'm able to grow 100% more plants than previous.

As said in your other post it depends how you want to steer them, theres no right or wrong it's personal preference

 

[Star Dog]

Hi star dog very impressed by your previous grows man, I also share the passion for good quality cheddar haha just wanted to ask what size airpots you are using here? Are they 6ltrs?

Hello bud welcome to bud builders, I'm sure you'll like it there's a nice crowd of folk's.

Those airpots afaik are 5ltr, or when I bought them they were advertised as 5ltr but they could be 6ltrs?

I love quality cheese it's a treat.
I've a little project going crossing exo x blockbuster, blockbuster ime is the closest thing to old exo I've grown hence the cross.

I've a little pocket sized exo x blockbuster already pollinated and I've another short one to pollinate this week.

If you stick around you'll get the chance of them when the time comes.

 

[Cheesey]

Hello bud welcome to bud builders, I'm sure you'll like it there's a nice crowd of folk's.

Those airpots afaik are 5ltr, or when I bought them they were advertised as 5ltr but they could be 6ltrs?

I love quality cheese it's a treat.
I've a little project going crossing exo x blockbuster, blockbuster ime is the closest thing to old exo I've grown hence the cross.
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I've a little pocket sized exo x blockbuster already pollinated and I've another short one to pollinate this week.
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If you stick around you'll get the chance of them when the time comes.

Thanks for the reply man, you are right I went off the orange colour base and they are 5s
Totally agree dude good cheese will always be the best in my mind hence the name lol
I usually run 7-10ltr so was thinking of giving the airpots ago this time, how do you find the blockbuster compares to your exodus?
They are some beautiful plants I'm going to give lcg genetics ago, super impressed with your results you are very good at what you do!
The blueberry twist of yours was epic, did she replace your blue mother? You never said who your keeper was from? Can't beat good blueberry hard to find these days? , which was better the coastal blueberry or the twist would really appreciate your thoughts as it'll help me make my mind up,

 

[CannaGranny]

Welcome to budbuilders @Cheesey !

 

[Star Dog]

Thanks for the reply man, you are right I went off the orange colour base and they are 5s
Totally agree dude good cheese will always be the best in my mind hence the name lol
I usually run 7-10ltr so was thinking of giving the airpots ago this time, how do you find the blockbuster compares to your exodus?
They are some beautiful plants I'm going to give lcg genetics ago, super impressed with your results you are very good at what you do!
The blueberry twist of yours was epic, did she replace your blue mother? You never said who your keeper was from? Can't beat good blueberry hard to find these days? , which was better the coastal blueberry or the twist would really appreciate your thoughts as it'll help me make my mind up,

Hey bud thank you, those air pots certainly increase the root density theres no doubts imo.

I like blockbuster it's one my favourites it's very close to exo with similar characteristics in its flavour I'd say a touch more earthy, I don't often grow strains twice but I'm growing blockbuster again atm and I've pollinated blockbuster #1 and two with a brother.


Fingers crossed blockbuster x blockbuster and blockbuster x exo

The coastal blueberry I had problems growing the seeds, idk why that was I don't have a problem growing seeds but that said I've seen others growing coastal blueberry without any problems, they say it's blueberry af but the one I did get to flower was a bit meah!

Not blueberry like at all.
I've 5 seeds left so I'm not given up completely there maybe something worth smoking?

Blueberry twist (advanced female seeds) is a nice smoke but it's probably not what you remember from blueberry, its blueberry/sweet terps with a hint of cat pisss but nothing on original blueberry terps...that other blueberry pheno didn't replace my original blueberry but I've since let it go.

This blueberry muffin from a bro smells promising its barely even flowering and it's already reeking sickly sweet.

I'm hopeful about it it's smelling all the right smells
finger's crossed

 

[Cheesey]

Hey bud thank you, those air pots certainly increase the root density theres no doubts imo.

I like blockbuster it's one my favourites it's very close to exo with similar characteristics in its flavour I'd say a touch more earthy, I don't often grow strains twice but I'm growing blockbuster again atm and I've pollinated blockbuster #1 and two with a brother.
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Fingers crossed blockbuster x blockbuster and blockbuster x exo

The coastal blueberry I had problems growing the seeds, idk why that was I don't have a problem growing seeds but that said I've seen others growing coastal blueberry without any problems, they say it's blueberry af but the one I did get to flower was a bit meah!
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Not blueberry like at all.
I've 5 seeds left so I'm not given up completely there maybe something worth smoking?

Blueberry twist (advanced female seeds) is a nice smoke but it's probably not what you remember from blueberry, its blueberry/sweet terps with a hint of cat pisss but nothing on original blueberry terps...that other blueberry pheno didn't replace my original blueberry but I've since let it go.
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This blueberry muffin from a bro smells promising its barely even flowering and it's already reeking sickly sweet.
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I'm hopeful about it it's smelling all the right smells
finger's crossed

Dude thanks again for the reply,
I'll have to give the airpots a go it's obvious they are going to need more watering but that's a plus
Thanks really good to know about blockbuster, I've got those & the bluchi v3 to run, looking forward to it will be running in a similar way to you as I always have but in soil all organic and be under old hid still haven't taken the leap to led the temps just worry me to much being in a cold place

sorry I missed that bit on the end mate oh for sure id be up for running them seeds! Looking to get as close as I possibly can to having exodus again I lost it and an old blue through extremely ill health and I've had those for many years
so now starting from scratch, devastated isn't the word!

so is your blue moma original dj? I heard his latest stuff isn't any good? If its humbolt bbm then they are supposed to smell the part but alot have been dissapointed about the flavour not carrying thru after a cure unfortunately?
I guess it's all pheno depandant? but has put me off running my pack tbh,
was hoping the twist or coastal were the awnser?
Heard the same about the coastal but did wider with hp lineage
The terps & effects are most important to me big believer in the entourage effect
I saw your bluchi v1 some really stunning plants I prefer open structure of them,
Do you prefer his v3 version?
Appreciate your time man hope you got those knats under control now?
All your plants are looking great btw

 

[Star Dog]

Hey @Cheesey good catch with the blockbuster and bluchi v3 the two of them imo are quality smoke, I grew some bluchi v3 last crop.

It's a nice smoke a bit different to bluchi v1 I'd say idk about better tbf they're both good however my preference is blockbuster it's that cheese I'd been looking for

Fwiw I still like my hid imo it rocks in cooler temps, if you're growing a small amount for personal and friends imo there's no need to go spending $100s on led.

Afaik the blueberry I'm growing atm is from Humboldt but I'm not 100% sure I won them in a lucky dip

I've another bb cross here to run next it's Janis from Fleur de mal (early pearl x 90s something dj blueberry)
Tbh the whole blueberry thing is wearing thin lol but I enjoy growing and theres always a slim chance of old blueberry flavour, its those old bb terps that keep me looking.

Oh the gnats have packed up and gone it's been 4/5wks since I seen a gnat, thanks for asking bro
It's takes ages to kill them all 100% but there's poison or spending money involved, from what I've read if you're growing in soil your almost guaranteed to bringing home gnats in the soil?

Take it easy bud

 

[Cheesey]

Hey @Cheesey good catch with the blockbuster and bluchi v3 the two of them imo are quality smoke, I grew some bluchi v3 last crop.
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It's a nice smoke a bit different to bluchi v1 I'd say idk about better tbf they're both good however my preference is blockbuster it's that cheese I'd been looking for

Fwiw I still like my hid imo it rocks in cooler temps, if you're growing a small amount for personal and friends imo there's no need to go spending $100s on led.

Afaik the blueberry I'm growing atm is from Humboldt but I'm not 100% sure I won them in a lucky dip

I've another bb cross here to run next it's Janis from Fleur de mal (early pearl x 90s something dj blueberry)
Tbh the whole blueberry thing is wearing thin lol but I enjoy growing and theres always a slim chance of old blueberry flavour, its those old bb terps that keep me looking.

Oh the gnats have packed up and gone it's been 4/5wks since I seen a gnat, thanks for asking bro
It's takes ages to kill them all 100% but there's poison or spending money involved, from what I've read if you're growing in soil your almost guaranteed to bringing home gnats in the soil?

Take it easy bud

Thanks again man, very reassuring, makes me happy, I'll be seriously happy if I can get one back that's even close, I know its wishful thinking from seed but says alot with you liking them so much

They say better the devil you know, I definatley need that heat!

That's crazy man I nearly bought that janice too it's got some nice genetics having silver pearl! Same tastes or what? Lol
Think blueberry could be in a few things but will mean running big numbers?

I'm glad you got rid of them,
funny you say that I've always grown soil & I've been lucky think it's possibly down to area and not keeping old soil for to long?


I'm interested to know how many watts you run? I'm guessing over 600?
I can't go to mad unfortunately but I'll be very happy if I get half as good results as you have, it's going to take time to find mother's I'm sure

 

[Rootsruler]

Welcome to BB @Cheesey!

 

[Star Dog]

Thanks again man, very reassuring, makes me happy, I'll be seriously happy if I can get one back that's even close, I know its wishful thinking from seed but says alot with you liking them so much

They say better the devil you know, I definatley need that heat!

That's crazy man I nearly bought that janice too it's got some nice genetics having silver pearl! Same tastes or what? Lol
Think blueberry could be in a few things but will mean running big numbers?

I'm glad you got rid of them,
funny you say that I've always grown soil & I've been lucky think it's possibly down to area and not keeping old soil for to long?


I'm interested to know how many watts you run? I'm guessing over 600?
I can't go to mad unfortunately but I'll be very happy if I get half as good results as you have, it's going to take time to find mother's I'm sure

I'm sure you'll be happy with blockbuster and bluchi tbf London city genetics has reliably good genetics ime, I've grown a number of their crosses and not been disappointed, I'd like to hear your thoughts when the time comes?

Imagine that you looked at Janice too lol we've something in common for sure!
I'm a sucker for anything blueberry and tbf fdm get good feedback on their strains if nothing else.

I also picked up General's Daughter, sweet tooth, Challah cake (Dna genetics) and fdm bubblegum so they'll be interesting I can't wait to next crop already
I'm using a 720w bar light I generally run it between 600/650w.

I've also a 300w sf and for the area size it works out much the same per square ft for 300w it's quite impressive to an hid grower

I'm sorry to hear about your situation with bad health and all but it sounds like you're in a better place now

Take it easy bud