New to Bud builder's hello everyone

[Cheesey]

It sure is, knocks me on my ass! Definitely a power house strain.

Nice! Stronger the better haha!
The TK is one on my list what kinda aromas n flavours were you getting from her bud?

 

[Star Dog]

Never heard of them but look very good I remember seeing this one way back & thought it was your coastal blue?
How's the smoke from them?
You really got your grow dialed in man that's for sure!

Thank you bud, I've had a variety of flavours from the lcg and grape fog from zesty lemon, refreshers (fruit sweets) and something that's difficult to describe it reminds me of heated polycarbonate smell, it sounds awful but its tasty I've smoked nearly all it all alongside cheese and kush.

 

[Star Dog]

Been in trim jail, welcome to the .org SS

 

[Star Dog]

Oh the gnats have packed up and gone it's been 4/5wks since I seen a gnat

Using my current crop as a guide it's actually nearer 9/10 weeks since I seen a gnat.

Looking back it was somewhere around 8/9 wks before they'd completely stopped hatching.

Something that caught my attention was the growth rate didn't change with pots in bags, then when I thought about it I concluded a pot isn't that different to a bag?

I'd been using lids on my pots forever almost to help keep down humidity and they're a benefit to roots.


Airpots and regular pots benefited from a lid...I don't see that as different to a bag?

While trying to narrow down gnat dates I found these pics (great) the two front plants were vegged and sexed under 4x t5s in those little pouches then i potted them up and put them under led to flower.

I've been growing more seeds so I've not had the space to repeat it with t5s.
That was 1 of 2 plants, the 2nd plant was also growing remarkably well to but I messed up with the timer and it reacted badly.

I've been planning to cut back for, well years but you all know what it's like growing its in the blood

Have a great weekend everyone

 

[Star Dog]

I forgot about the blueberry from phoenix seeds?

I picked them up in a lucky dip

What about the 1212 seed company has anyone grown anything from their, how did it go?

I'm growing their sour tangie atm.

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THT and Senokai breed strains that do particularly well in 12-12 from seed.

They certainly stinks of fuel/citrus/cake it's promising.

I've few other's from 12-12 seed company I'm going to grow in my next crop like sour diesel, dirty Gary and Jetfuel gelato...omfg I can't wait its going to be a blast!!

Have a nice weekend everyone 🕊

 

[Cheesey]

I forgot about the blueberry from phoenix seeds?
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I picked them up in a lucky dip

What about the 1212 seed company has anyone grown anything from their, how did it go?

I'm growing their sour tangie atm.

Buy Sour Tangie Hybrid Seeds | Premium Hemp Seeds

Varietal type: Hybrid Gender: Regular Flowering: 70 - 75 days Yield: High Height: Medium Indoor / Outdoor: Both Lineage: Sour Tangie

1212seeds.com

THT and Senokai breed strains that do particularly well in 12-12 from seed.
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They certainly stinks of fuel/citrus/cake it's promising.

I've few other's from 12-12 seed company I'm going to grow in my next crop like sour diesel, dirty Gary and Jetfuel gelato...omfg I can't wait its going to be a blast!!

Have a nice weekend everyone 🕊

You have an interesting point about the bagged pots? t
hose 12-12 strains you found, I think aslong as it's not a pure indy then most hybrid strains do well, it's always been common practice with pure sativa to just flower them to manage the height
those bluberry sound promising dude

Using my current crop as a guide it's actually nearer 9/10 weeks since I seen a gnat.

Looking back it was somewhere around 8/9 wks before they'd completely stopped hatching.

Something that caught my attention was the growth rate didn't change with pots in bags, then when I thought about it I concluded a pot isn't that different to a bag?
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I'd been using lids on my pots forever almost to help keep down humidity and they're a benefit to roots.
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Airpots and regular pots benefited from a lid...I don't see that as different to a bag?

While trying to narrow down gnat dates I found these pics (great) the two front plants were vegged and sexed under 4x t5s in those little pouches then i potted them up and put them under led to flower.
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I've been growing more seeds so I've not had the space to repeat it with t5s.
That was 1 of 2 plants, the 2nd plant was also growing remarkably well to but I messed up with the timer and it reacted badly.
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I've been planning to cut back for, well years but you all know what it's like growing its in the blood

Have a great weekend everyone

You do have a very good point about the bags, makes me think how much root oxygen is necessary? Natural outdoor plants rooted deep underground must be hardly any oxygen being taken in by the root?
Ahh the old cutting back lol that's not going to happen, this hobby is an addiction
Can I dm you on here stardog? I need advice with cloning please bud

 

[Star Dog]

..."Natural outdoor plants rooted deep underground must be hardly any oxygen being taken in by the root?..."

Wow! That was my thoughts aswell, I was looking at the garden thinking there's not a lot of air down there the whole oxygen thing is possibly a bit overstated

No problem bud dm anytime I'll help if I can.

Speaking of clones yesterday I repotted some clones to flower in my next crop, I normally wait until later in flower to clone that makes them easy to care for long term.

Most time goes on re vegging so I'm not maintaining plants that 90% go in the bin.
if they're good i pot them up...new mum!

Take it easy folk's

 

[Aqua Man]

Thank you, it was around 2k i used them and got decent results considering I knew pretty much nothing about gardening, i stuck with them for years then moved onto dtw.

Tbh I expected the dtw to be at least a little better but I'm less sure now.

But it's still early to draw any conclusions?

I've got a bit of conundrum atm I can't work out, it doesn't make sense.
I'm using dtw and the autopot and only the dtw has any salt accumulation?

I've been using 1.9/2.0ec with autopotband it's still same in/out.

With dtw the run off is rising 0.2/3ec a day?

Why would one method rise and another not the other when they all share the same space, light and nutrient

Cheers

The difference in evaporation from the pots would be my best guess

 

[Cheesey]

No way man, does seem that way doesent it? And airpots being more beneficial due to drying out faster in effect doubling the feeds?

I guess the plant itself is doing more than is obviously apparent? It's very interesting

So are you toking on any cheese atm bro?

Your clones look great dude , what light do you have over them a t5 fluro or leds?
I think with you taking clones during flower they are putting out roots alot faster?
I grew 12-12 for a very long time it makes alot more sense in alot of ways

 

[Star Dog]

The difference in evaporation from the pots would be my best guess

That's it I'd bet
That makes sense, all that combined area wicking water into the environment would be ample to mess with ec, thanks a lot bud

 

[Star Dog]

No way man, does seem that way doesent it? And airpots being more beneficial due to drying out faster in effect doubling the feeds?

I guess the plant itself is doing more than is obviously apparent? It's very interesting

So are you toking on any cheese atm bro?

Your clones look great dude , what light do you have over them a t5 fluro or leds?
I think with you taking clones during flower they are putting out roots alot faster?
I grew 12-12 for a very long time it makes alot more sense in alot of ways

Hey bud, its quite cool here t5 fluorescent work great pretty much all year round, in summer I sometimes swap to led but strictly speaking it's not absolutely necessary.

I agree with you I think the timing helps being at that vigorous growth time, idk I'm guessing there's lots of growth hormones or whatever.

I'm still smoking exo, bluchi and cheese dipz I've a fair bit cheese to choose from.

Jfc I've been growing lots of plants with the intension of finding a handful of mums worth putting effort into growing, pheno hunting isn't a walk in park I got sick putting in the effort and then finding it's meh! hence my current approach now favouring variety and quick turnaround, if they're good I'll catch them next time

 

[kaw900r]

In the last 18 months or so I've been doing a extensive pheno hunt.

I'm favouring more plants these days over the yeild.

I was putting too much effort into weed that was ultimately crap.

Now I put in minimum work, I'm really only looking for a decent tester and a clone,
well that what I allowed for, tbh the results were somewhat of a surprise.
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With only a 10/14 days vegging its doing ok.
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Once I get my mother's sorted I'll concentrate more on training and yeild.

What are you feeding those girls?

 

[Star Dog]

What are you feeding those girls?

Hey bud, its mostly canna a+b and I've been trying some other nutrient in the last year or so, megacrop 1 part, hydrosol a+b and Ionic 1 part tbh they work much the same ime I'd go by the cheapest or best price per litre now.

 

[Star Dog]

A few pics I snapped this morning.

I can't see shit on that screen when I'm in the tent but I get lucky sometimes and catch a good photo.

 

[kaw900r]

Hey bud, its mostly canna a+b and I've been trying some other nutrient in the last year or so, megacrop 1 part, hydrosol a+b and Ionic 1 part tbh they work much the same ime I'd go by the cheapest or best price per litre now.

I use general hydroponics nutrients, but the size of those flowers were enormous...

 

[Cheesey]

Hey bud, its quite cool here t5 fluorescent work great pretty much all year round, in summer I sometimes swap to led but strictly speaking it's not absolutely necessary.

I agree with you I think the timing helps being at that vigorous growth time, idk I'm guessing there's lots of growth hormones or whatever.

I'm still smoking exo, bluchi and cheese dipz I've a fair bit cheese to choose from.

Jfc I've been growing lots of plants with the intension of finding a handful of mums worth putting effort into growing, pheno hunting isn't a walk in park I got sick putting in the effort and then finding it's meh! hence my current approach now favouring variety and quick turnaround, if they're good I'll catch them next time

Oh nice you got a good temp there, my brother lived there for years, I've got to admit I do like the t5, are you putting the fresh cut clones under it aswell?
You can never have a big enough stash of cheddar but I'm bias mate
Yea mate the pheno hunting is hard going, 12-12 is the best way, but like you say? Did you run those pineapple chunk yet? Used to be good phenos in those but the same was said about old early blue cheese?
You just gotta keep going for the love,
I genuinely love growing anyway, something special will pop up, don't sound like youare doing bad tho, ex, bluchi, dipz, find a good blueberry and your set! Could make your own banging blue cheese then?
If you could take me through your cloning routine I'd be very grateful going to pinch your lid idea if yiu don't mind

 

[Star Dog]

Wow Imagine that with your brother how nice, its a small world right enough.

Yes T5s are great they give me heat and light for 96w I've a option of lighting the T5s are my pick from all of them.
With fresh cut clones I put them to them off to the side out of direct light.

I've none suitable pics but the light is at the right hand side.

Omg that 12-12 thing from seed is a massive boost to me all round, its made my growing more enjoyable, cheaper, better and easier to manage, if yeild isn't the same that's my fault I'm literally able to grow 100% more plants and 100% more grows a yeae...lol that are easier, cheaper blah blah!!

I've never enjoyed growing so much for so long growing really is a blast these days I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

Pineapple chunk, yes bud I've grown it, it yeilded massive buds

but was a bit meh tbh I wouldn't recommend unless tasteless weed was your thing then it'd be great, when I say tasteless I mean its pretty boring earthy/fuely like a 100 others.

My cloning method is pretty straightforward tbh, I've not a lot of pics but I've these, the clones are just smaller than normal all else is the same.

Select a shoot preferably with a set of nodes that will land under the surface, its not always easy to find with taller shoots but its not essential only preferable given the option.

Trim the nodes with clean cut (scalpel/stanley) cut it to length, I like my 1st bit growth to be level with the surface (in most cases) no wasted vertical height!!

A bit rooting gel, powder whatever you prefer and poke the clone into a pre poked hole in the coco/pouch, I use a bamboo skewer it's ideal for the job.

Give the coco a feed with weak nutrient or even water, water isn't recommended with coco allegedly ut I've not had any problems through using water anyhow whatever I use I leave it soaked, sodding wet to prevent wilting of any kind.

If it's any interest to you I've also a diy aero cloner it works good but the setting it up doesn't justify the hassle when coco works fine.
Regular clones would go into a heated propagator set to 23/24⁰c via a temp probe in the bottom of a pouch...fwiw ime props and heat matts get too hot they're better with a controller imo.

The lid that's good news I'm glad you can get a use from it and tbf they're absolutely worth the small effort involved if humidity is an issue or you simply want a bit more rooting

Yeh they rock for the few pence they'd cost.

From listening to you bro I don't think we're too different from each other reading between the lines, cheers bud

 

[Cheesey]

Wow Imagine that with your brother how nice, its a small world right enough.

Yes T5s are great they give me heat and light for 96w I've a option of lighting the T5s are my pick from all of them.
With fresh cut clones I put them to them off to the side out of direct light.
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I've none suitable pics but the light is at the right hand side.

Omg that 12-12 thing from seed is a massive boost to me all round, its made my growing more enjoyable, cheaper, better and easier to manage, if yeild isn't the same that's my fault I'm literally able to grow 100% more plants and 100% more grows a yeae...lol that are easier, cheaper blah blah!!

I've never enjoyed growing so much for so long growing really is a blast these days I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

Pineapple chunk, yes bud I've grown it, it yeilded massive buds
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but was a bit meh tbh I wouldn't recommend unless tasteless weed was your thing then it'd be great, when I say tasteless I mean its pretty boring earthy/fuely like a 100 others.

My cloning method is pretty straightforward tbh, I've not a lot of pics but I've these, the clones are just smaller than normal all else is the same.

Select a shoot preferably with a set of nodes that will land under the surface, its not always easy to find with taller shoots but its not essential only preferable given the option.
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Trim the nodes with clean cut (scalpel/stanley) cut it to length, I like my 1st bit growth to be level with the surface (in most cases) no wasted vertical height!!
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A bit rooting gel, powder whatever you prefer and poke the clone into a pre poked hole in the coco/pouch, I use a bamboo skewer it's ideal for the job.
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Give the coco a feed with weak nutrient or even water, water isn't recommended with coco allegedly ut I've not had any problems through using water anyhow whatever I use I leave it soaked, sodding wet to prevent wilting of any kind.

If it's any interest to you I've also a diy aero cloner it works good but the setting it up doesn't justify the hassle when coco works fine.
Regular clones would go into a heated propagator set to 23/24⁰c via a temp probe in the bottom of a pouch...fwiw ime props and heat matts get too hot they're better with a controller imo.

The lid that's good news I'm glad you can get a use from it and tbf they're absolutely worth the small effort involved if humidity is an issue or you simply want a bit more rooting
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Yeh they rock for the few pence they'd cost.

From listening to you bro I don't think we're too different from each other reading between the lines, cheers bud

It certainly is haha
Oh for sure 12/12 is the way for me to, I mean we both know nothing just flowers, still saves bit more time takes the stresses out of it and makes it more enjoyable
Thanks for the tip oh nonono?! ,pc is not for me then! I'd prefer a tiny yeild of something tasty and banging than ounces of tasteless bud, all about those terps and the effects nothing else matters! Aromas nice to have but not as essential as it carrying to the flavour? I mean cheese isn't a looker is she when dried but man does she make up for it!
plain Jane's need love too! haha
Thanks for the clone tips I'm surprised man thought you'd be on the bubbler?
That's very kind of you I might take you up on that
Just can't risk losing good clones!
*do you have them straight under the old t5 then mate I always worry about that being to much?
I do think we are very similar dude I even used to fish alot when I was younger

 

[Star Dog]

This is a better pic for example.

In most cases the clones would be in the prop at the left away from direct light and with the vents and lid opened about 1" to allow air exchange.

In deep winter I sometimes put the prop under the light, yes imo it's to much light so I use a fine mesh (vegetable bag lol) over the prop.
Sorta like this to keep it dimmed for a week-ish


That's the small exo clone on the syringe I cut it 16th January.

And grape fog I cut today.

I have a bubble cloner yes but I've not used it in while.

Due the circumstances idk what I was going to be cloning next so keeping them on ice was my main aim hence the flowering clone business.


Fwiw I originally used a pump with 4 outlets T,d to 2 per 12" stone, it worked fine but the there's a noise penalty, I tried just a powerhead pump just gently agitating the water and worked great minus the noise.

Edit...its kinda an example of another low oxygen situation working fine?

Also in the colder months it adds heat to the water so that's another bonus.

I've not stopped using it it's just less practical atm.

I found this pic it's got an interesting story. (1ltr bubbler )

Shoots cut 3/4th wk flower and put in the fridge for 10 wks then continued above, I've no more related pics I've deleted possibly 1000s of pics this week some carelessly I should add

 

[Cheesey]

This is a better pic for example.
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In most cases the clones would be in the prop at the left away from direct light and with the vents and lid opened about 1" to allow air exchange.

In deep winter I sometimes put the prop under the light, yes imo it's to much light so I use a fine mesh (vegetable bag lol) over the prop.
Sorta like this to keep it dimmed for a week-ish
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That's the small exo clone on the syringe I cut it 16th January.
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And grape fog I cut today.
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I have a bubble cloner yes but I've not used it in while.

Due the circumstances idk what I was going to be cloning next so keeping them on ice was my main aim hence the flowering clone business.
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Fwiw I originally used a pump with 4 outlets T,d to 2 per 12" stone, it worked fine but the there's a noise penalty, I tried just a powerhead pump just gently agitating the water and worked great minus the noise.

Edit...its kinda an example of another low oxygen situation working fine?
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Also in the colder months it adds heat to the water so that's another bonus.

I've not stopped using it it's just less practical atm.

I found this pic it's got an interesting story. (1ltr bubbler )
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Shoots cut 3/4th wk flower and put in the fridge for 10 wks then continued above, I've no more related pics I've deleted possibly 1000s of pics this week some carelessly I should add

Thanks man helps alot what size tent is tge pic of the babies in?
XO babie that makes me that's all I want back man, like you I've got a pile of seeds but she's the one for me
Yes mate your home made jobbies looks just like what I after, I just don't know enough about them? What size & type of pump is required?
Did I read that last bit right?
You kept in fridge for 10wks and they still rooted? That's crazy I had no idea it's possible
How far away are you on that bbm girl I'm keen to hear your thoughts when it's done, I've got bbm and bbcc to run I hear the cupcake got bit more potency?

 

[Star Dog]

@Cheesey hey bud, that tent is 3x2 (secret jardin D90) that's the heart of my grow it takes care of mum's, clones and seeds.

Last year I bought another 2x2 for vegging my 12-12 seeds but it's not great tbh a 2x2 tray for example doesn't even fit in it.

idk but a 3x2 seems to have acres of space

That aside having another tent and t5s to veg them in 12-12 is massive help previously I had to swap trays around at lights off/on however I survived it

The pump size I'm unsure about myself bud?
The pump I use in the cloner is a basic 6/7w powerhead, its basically a pump that draws in air to help oxygenate the water.
I just bought a budget one but now I've tried it I wouldn't mind spending a bit more on a quality model?

Yes, that was correct 10wks ± in the fridge then rooted, fwiw even after I bleached 2 of them with led they still rooted ok...jfc I tried them in 3 lots 8/10 weeks.

The blueberry has a bit to go yet its circa 5wks atm but I'm a little suspect about it?

It smells outstanding ime with blueberry it's 10/10 but check the buds they're barely worth flowering?

For comparison there's a triangle kush at the right.

It's also covered in brown pistils and has been pretty much since the start then I seen nanners so that's not encouraging.

I've got blueberry that yeilds reasonably well I'm thinking about maybe trying to cross them?

I can't remember if I said I'm hoping to make crosses under t5s or even under the canopy?

Making seed isn't really my thing but if I can do for £3 a week then yes it could be interesting

I'm sorry to go on lol, I hope you have good luck with your blueberry and your cheese strains

 

[Cheesey]

That's cool man helps put in perspective now, I thought your flower space was much larger?
Yea a 3 x 2 is massive in comparison
I picked up a tiny 60/40/60 just to give me bit more space and possibly veg a little but doesent sound good from your exp?

I'm interested to give the bubbler a go they seem easy to make just few bits, neopreme collars a pump n some lines n stones ?
Worth it if get better strike rate?

I read you need 10l per min rating? Must depend on tank size?

I never knew clones kept so long what do you put them in?

Yea mate I've seen n read that unfortunately the bbm smelss and can look part in some phenos but flavour or smell don't generally carry thru the cure?
Yea you are onto the right thing to get it banging it's good foundation for a cross? Lots of others doing same thing if I were you your blue cross exo be banging I'd have some?
Yes my dude maximise your energy and space if you can get something from the seed for such little cost time effort then why not?
Really appreciate your help mate I'll dm ya for sure
I'll soon having something going
Be careful with the others if pollenating that could be quite the challenge?
Take care brother keep up the great work

 

[Star Dog]

Hey bud, your 2x2 is good start it's somewhere to get seeds/clones going it's just a 3x2 is a little more flexible.

The bubbler is good they do work great there's no doubts, I used a paint scuttle, some 1.5" mesh pots to hold the neoprene collars, 2x 12" stones, a pump, tubing T,s etc then I learned just a £5/6 powerhead pump worked much the same

Tbh I hadn't thought much beyond the exo x blockbuster pollination project I don't want to get ahead of myself lol
I was thinking about using that blueberry to cross into another good yielding blueberry and see what happens, crossing it with cheese would certainly be another option if everthing works out?

I seen roots on that mini exo cut above this morning...yeh!!

Idk where I got the 16th from it was the 24th Jan I cut it.

I didn't mention the other fdm I'm thinking about growing next?

There's some mixed packs of Indiana Bubblegum, og kush and Cinderela about £1 a seed.

I also got that janis, general's daughter, sweet tooth, challah cake and a pk of Ace mixed, so much for winding down

Clones...I put them in a plastic tub but ruined them when I removed them from the fridge and water precipitated onto them.

the next lot a put in a zip top bag and put them in the bottom of fridge again and didn't remove them until getting used, they were in surprisingly good condition I mean a bit mould but only small patches, I thought maybe with a spray of chlorine water, sulphur smoke etc might help them last longer again?

Take it easy bud

Edit...has anyone grown anything from fdm, how did that go?

 

[Star Dog]

I snapped a few pics before the light went off.

They're not going to need the 10wks I've allowed for flowering I'm going to say another 3wks?

 

[Star Dog]

This is the 3rd crop I've grown consecutively in 12-12 then 11-13hrs after sexing and it's working out 2/3 weeks faster than a previous 12-12 with everthing else being the same except 12-12 right through from seed but those needed 10/11 weeks to finish and with 11-13hrs they've needed 7/8 weeks each time to get to harvestable bud.

That's quite a difference yes i agree and tbh there's quite a difference in the plants size for that hour difference.

Those were potted immediately after sexing it was after this iirc I decided to wait longer before potting in future hoping to limit stretch further by not having a big root ball to grow from during stretch?

So yeah a big difference all round it really is remarkable the effect 1hr less has on them
It's all been very interesting

Take it easy

 

[steamroller]

So no veg and shortened light cycle to 11 on 13 off?


Those spots on the bottom leaf would concern me but all else looks great.

 

[Star Dog]

So no veg and shortened light cycle to 11 on 13 off?

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Those spots on the bottom leaf would concern me but all else looks great.

Hey bud, that one was 12-12 right through from seed and potted up immediately after sexing.

The marks on the leafs were caused me air layering a clone from it you can just see the ball at the bottom of the branch.


I didn't want to cut the branch and waste those buds so I let it grow on and air layered a clone instead, it turned out to be a waste of time but that's another story.

 

[Cheesey]

Hey bud, your 2x2 is good start it's somewhere to get seeds/clones going it's just a 3x2 is a little more flexible.

The bubbler is good they do work great there's no doubts, I used a paint scuttle, some 1.5" mesh pots to hold the neoprene collars, 2x 12" stones, a pump, tubing T,s etc then I learned just a £5/6 powerhead pump worked much the same

Tbh I hadn't thought much beyond the exo x blockbuster pollination project I don't want to get ahead of myself lol
I was thinking about using that blueberry to cross into another good yielding blueberry and see what happens, crossing it with cheese would certainly be another option if everthing works out?

I seen roots on that mini exo cut above this morning...yeh!!
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Idk where I got the 16th from it was the 24th Jan I cut it.

I didn't mention the other fdm I'm thinking about growing next?
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There's some mixed packs of Indiana Bubblegum, og kush and Cinderela about £1 a seed.

I also got that janis, general's daughter, sweet tooth, challah cake and a pk of Ace mixed, so much for winding down

Clones...I put them in a plastic tub but ruined them when I removed them from the fridge and water precipitated onto them.

the next lot a put in a zip top bag and put them in the bottom of fridge again and didn't remove them until getting used, they were in surprisingly good condition I mean a bit mould but only small patches, I thought maybe with a spray of chlorine water, sulphur smoke etc might help them last longer again?

Take it easy bud

Edit...has anyone grown anything from fdm, how did that go?

Hello mate oh yea I picked up a hardly used x stream for 20 quid! it's brand new so thought cheaper than even making one up? It's only 12 site but that's great for the money got everything and a mister bar but I could always stick h bar on it?
Just wanted to apologise when I said about XO before I wasn't hinting or anything, but having had her for over a decade Im desperately trying to find something close, I'm sure you must get pestered too, everyone wants her!
Do you have pics of the ex fully flowered?
I'm genuinely amazed at how good your grows are I'm tempted to try the 11/13 but how much yeild are you losing?
Fdm have some grest stuff, that janice would be the one & man be killer if you find a tasty b gum pheno! Im still trying to find it lol
Never tried them I'd check reviews first but you have em why not pop em?
Yea mate like if you crossed your blue into the structure n yeild of that blue twist? I was blown away by how good she looked!
One thing at a time tho haha
Thanks for the fridge info I'm going to try that
So what's next up on harvest list?

 

[Star Dog]

Hello mate oh yea I picked up a hardly used x stream for 20 quid! it's brand new so thought cheaper than even making one up? It's only 12 site but that's great for the money got everything and a mister bar but I could always stick h bar on it?
Just wanted to apologise when I said about XO before I wasn't hinting or anything, but having had her for over a decade Im desperately trying to find something close, I'm sure you must get pestered too, everyone wants her!
Do you have pics of the ex fully flowered?
I'm genuinely amazed at how good your grows are I'm tempted to try the 11/13 but how much yeild are you losing?
Fdm have some grest stuff, that janice would be the one & man be killer if you find a tasty b gum pheno! Im still trying to find it lol
Never tried them I'd check reviews first but you have em why not pop em?
Yea mate like if you crossed your blue into the structure n yeild of that blue twist? I was blown away by how good she looked!
One thing at a time tho haha
Thanks for the fridge info I'm going to try that
So what's next up on harvest list?

You got a bargain with the cloner bud that's ideal, nice one!!

What do you intend to use in it?
I use tap water in mine without any problems rooting, i add a little chlorine (3-4ppm) to keep nasties at bay it's reasonably cheap per 1lb it'll lasts for years check out pool shock if you're interested

No need for apologies bud, no worries tbh you hinting didn't cross my mind, fwiw if I was on the other side of the pond I'm sure we could work something out.

I had literally 1000s of bud pics but I've deleted 99% them recently, I thought I could download them anytime from "Roll it up" but it's crashed about a week maybe ten days I think it's gone now
There might be other exo photos posted here but atm this is the only exo pic I have (afaik) in my phone.

Clone to 11-13 I'm sure there's other pics of it posted here.

12-12 v 11-13?
I've not weighed my crops for ages so I can't say for sure but I don't think I'm loosing anything with 11-13hrs because I'm able to fit more plants in being shorter and more manageable size.

I can grow 2 per now pot it works fine, actually I could argue they done better they did do better than some with a pot of their own.
Jfc they're bent over like that to fit under the light.

Next crop?
Good question I've a few I'd like to try like fdm bubblegum, cinderela and Janis along with magic bloom Tuscan gelato, dosi sherbet and maybe pia gow x meat breath and a few other's?

I've already prepared 1x exo, kush and lemon cherry gelato to veg and train into decent sized plants, the 3 of them have been my main smoke since last harvest they're all so damn tasty!!

Take it easy bud

Have a nice weekend everyone

 

[steamroller]

I will probably take my current grow to 11-13.
I am doing the slow flip from 18-6 at 1 hour every 3-4 days.
Probably give them 12-12 until week 6-7 flower then go 11-13.
Here in October [fall] the first week has only 11 1/2 hours daylight.
I grew very well for years outdoors.

 

[Star Dog]

Hey folk's, a few pics snapped this morning.


Have a nice weekend folk's

 

[Cheesey]

You got a bargain with the cloner bud that's ideal, nice one!!

What do you intend to use in it?
I use tap water in mine without any problems rooting, i add a little chlorine (3-4ppm) to keep nasties at bay it's reasonably cheap per 1lb it'll lasts for years check out pool shock if you're interested

No need for apologies bud, no worries tbh you hinting didn't cross my mind, fwiw if I was on the other side of the pond I'm sure we could work something out.

I had literally 1000s of bud pics but I've deleted 99% them recently, I thought I could download them anytime from "Roll it up" but it's crashed about a week maybe ten days I think it's gone now
There might be other exo photos posted here but atm this is the only exo pic I have (afaik) in my phone.
View attachment 89179
Clone to 11-13 I'm sure there's other pics of it posted here.

12-12 v 11-13?
I've not weighed my crops for ages so I can't say for sure but I don't think I'm loosing anything with 11-13hrs because I'm able to fit more plants in being shorter and more manageable size.
View attachment 89228
I can grow 2 per now pot it works fine, actually I could argue they done better they did do better than some with a pot of their own.
Jfc they're bent over like that to fit under the light.

Next crop?
Good question I've a few I'd like to try like fdm bubblegum, cinderela and Janis along with magic bloom Tuscan gelato, dosi sherbet and maybe pia gow x meat breath and a few other's?

I've already prepared 1x exo, kush and lemon cherry gelato to veg and train into decent sized plants, the 3 of them have been my main smoke since last harvest they're all so damn tasty!!

Take it easy bud

Have a nice weekend everyone

Hey bud thanks for the tip, I've heard just waters fine, so that's what I'll be doing, yea is a bargain man it's only basic 12 site but they still 75 new?
Crazy lol
Ahh cool I just read my post n thought shit he going to think I'm looking for hand out you know?
Do you know what cheese cut of ex you have? It's hard to tell from led grown cheese
What made you think I'm not in sunny uk dude? Always been here but I'm other side country to you lol
Oh mate isn't riu a pita! I can't get on it ever
I know what you are saying I've lost everything over the years, grown since 90s
I used to do 2 per pot like you then I went back because I like to heavy lst them can go circular with a single plant but soon run out space for two
I've never tried 11/13 but if you say your happy and not noticibly losing then I may try it out
I've always grown organic soil but I do feed too so iam tempted to go coco, can't be that different?
The fdm do look good worth a try my man work your magic n see what happens
Exodus I've had for many many years I never get bored of it, just something about skunk does it for me, I love it! gotta be uk thing hasn't it?
What's you flower room size stardog??
I'll be back on it soon bro within the month

 

[Star Dog]

Hey bud, tbh idk which cheese exactly, its got some distinctive features judging from other exo/cheese I seeing, its got like a kinda viney stem and throws leafs that look like they've 3 fingers, if I was buying cheese that's what I'd look for in it.

It's a great smoke!!

Ah lol I thought it might be on this after you said your bro used to live in the North, there you go problem solved

11-13hrs yes it's working out great, fwiw before I tried 11-13hrs my average flower time was 10/12 wks even longer sometimes 11-13 or maybe less is a pheno hunters best friend, I'm still astonished by it and a bit surprised it's not more popular?

My tent is 5 x 5ft but my canopy is 4x4ft ± a bigger tent gives me a space for a heater, dehumidifier and myself, I like space to sit with tea and a joint and just enjoy watching and maybe adjusting a leaf here or there
Exo today

#2 exo ^^^ clone I'd intended to pollinate but run out of pollen

#1 exo pollinated I hope those calyxes have seeds?
This is another I done grape fog x lemon cherry gelato pollinated with blockbuster.


I can't believe how quickly seeds have grown (assuming it wasn't pollinated elsewhere earlier)
Riu lol I started a diary there about 5yrs ago until it closed now idk when I done when with this crop

 

[Star Dog]

A few recent pics wk 6
Meltdown #1

Meltdown #2

Super lemon haze.

Sour tangie

Exodus
Group photo

Take it easy folk's

 

[Star Dog]

You might remember I had a little side project the aim was ro keep it short but not to ruin it in doing so.

After it started slowing I eased up on trimming the leafs. (Middle)



In the middle photo it's sister's are directly behind and left

It might be easier just to veg less hrs idk but trimming the leafs on the taller specimens might be worth a shot?

@Cheesey blockbuster

it even looks like exo to there's similarities for sure.

 

[Cheesey]

I just got a 3x3 from a/c Infinity. Waiting on inline fan and charcoal filter. SS

Hello bud I just got one of these very cheap, how you finding it and what's tge max number you are running in it during flower?

 

[kaw900r]

Hello bud I just got one of these very cheap, how you finding it and what's tge max number you are running in it during flower?

What size pots are you planning on using and how long will you veg? I let my plants veg and like them to bush. If you lollipop them you can get up 9 in 2gal pots. I use fabric 3 & 5gal so they take up more space. Here's a p8c of my small tent 40x40x80" with 2 3gal clones, 5gal auto l, clones in cup germ hood. Hope that helps a little, all how you arrange them.

 

[SSgrower]

Hello bud I just got one of these very cheap, how you finding it and what's tge max number you are running in it during flower?

Which? Tent, or inline fan.

 

[Cheesey]

Hey bud, tbh idk which cheese exactly, its got some distinctive features judging from other exo/cheese I seeing, its got like a kinda viney stem and throws leafs that look like they've 3 fingers, if I was buying cheese that's what I'd look for in it.
View attachment 89403
It's a great smoke!!

Ah lol I thought it might be on this after you said your bro used to live in the North, there you go problem solved

11-13hrs yes it's working out great, fwiw before I tried 11-13hrs my average flower time was 10/12 wks even longer sometimes 11-13 or maybe less is a pheno hunters best friend, I'm still astonished by it and a bit surprised it's not more popular?

My tent is 5 x 5ft but my canopy is 4x4ft ± a bigger tent gives me a space for a heater, dehumidifier and myself, I like space to sit with tea and a joint and just enjoy watching and maybe adjusting a leaf here or there
Exo today
View attachment 89404
#2 exo ^^^ clone I'd intended to pollinate but run out of pollen
View attachment 89405
#1 exo pollinated I hope those calyxes have seeds?
This is another I done grape fog x lemon cherry gelato pollinated with blockbuster.
View attachment 89407
View attachment 89406
I can't believe how quickly seeds have grown (assuming it wasn't pollinated elsewhere earlier)
Riu lol I started a diary there about 5yrs ago until it closed now idk when I done when with this crop

Nice mate, yea it's actually alot harder with the led cheddar as it changes the bud shape you only get the wild dreadlocks fixtailing from certain conditions and with old lights, are many exo variants each got there own twist, I agree it's most tasty n satisfying strain ever and hits the same everytime which is real rarity now,
You did well with the pollination she should be full whereever you hit her up and more, just hope your other plants didn't take too
Oh mate 5x5 is living the dream plenty space to work in! All looking great as always.

 

[Cheesey]

Which? Tent, or inline fan.

Hey SS tent brother, brand new used once, had to buy, always used budbox but ac 3x3 with the side doors sounds easier with crammed tent, I'll be using cyclone 6 inch silent fan the long cyl type, silencer too if need be