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SSHZ does Captain RedBeard's "Biscotti Blonde" and Lit Farms "All Starz"..........

I bumped up cal/mag to 10ml per gallon, veg ferts to raise ppm to 650...........they are greening up bottom to top so they have a way to go. Some didn't miss a beat, others yellowed quickly. A pH of 5.5 in soil will do that. lol

My meter, when calibrating, was stuck at 7.1 when dipped in solution for 30 minutes. I know there's a way to adjust it but I'll just pH to 6.2 (which will actually be 6.3).
 
I pulled the room out today, lolipopped the room. did a light defoliation, etc........I'll put some pics up tomorrow, after they've recovered. Still upping the N while trying to green them up more. No question the Biscotti has been a trooper thru this all though, impressively. The Lit Farms All Starz is a different story- first off, a wide range of short and tall phenos. No uniformity all all. These guys suffered with the pH out of whack, mightily.

If you remember, I had mentioned 3 of the All Starz seeds were tiny, like pin heads. These look like Haze seeds to me. They did slowly pop, and now are little tiny plants, which I have to prop up to get a fairly even canopy. 1/2 the size of some of the other plants. 6 days into flowering.

I usually defoliate first day of flowering, I waited until today so they could regain some health be the trauma. I'll spray something on them tonight, maybe some Monterey Insect Spray with Spinosad as a preventative, and flush the pots with Grandeva or Venerate (can't remember which one just now) for a mite treatment.
 
The Biscotti are putting off large sun leaves, choking light downwards......Ive removed the 6 largest on each plant, just trying to let some light reach lower bud sites. You can tell right away these will have to be defoliated throughout the grow, which has actually become the norm these days.

April will be 4 years with these Gavitas, not one issue. I mistreat them too, I have cuts all over my scalp from hitting the corners coming upwards. Ive looked at the diodes, as far as I can tell- every one is lit. I knew I could get 5 years out of them, not sure what I'll do at that point.
 
ICC was one of the best strains I have ever grown💯

That was 3 plus years ago!

Biscotti is currently one of my number ones! I have never grown a better strain when it comes to yield and quality. I’m far from a breeder but damn it checks a lotto boxes!!

Peace

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Big difference once I was able to lock in the pH........I had to flush the worst of the plants, and they really appreciated the defoliation and lolipopping. A plants regenerative powers are amazing if you give them the opportunity.
 
I'm still looking for my conversation with Gu but did find one with Breeders Boutique, when I grew "The Dog", a kushy type strain. 24 plants, they completely hermied. The breeder just kept telling me to pluck off the male parts- I was spending 2 hours a day plucking and still losing the battle. The thread is over on RIU.

The thread below is from 2012, and it's in the old room under high pressure sodium's. Not too much has changed in 12+ years.

www.rollitup.org

Breeders Boutique "The Dog"

The Dog: Headband (OG Kush X ECSD) X OG Kush. It's a 9.5-10 week strain, 75% Indica and 25% sativa. I wasn't planning on doing a journal this crop but I've had some requests for info on this so I thought I'd do a condensed version with only pictures after this first post. I bought these...
www.rollitup.org www.rollitup.org
 
After reading thru, it appears I had 2 rooms going at that time, the other was Green Poison from Sweet Seeds. I wish I would have posted more pic's, but I was so disgusted with everything..........
 
My pH probe went bad, I didn't realize it until the plants poor health showed up. Got a new one in 2 days, back on the straight and narrow and things have greatly improved on both sides of the room. My pH out of the well is high, maybe 7.2 so I adjust to 6.3 and flush with plain water at 30-50ppm. Only 1 flush was necessary, since it was early in the grow. Wait a day, then restart fertilizatIon at a higher rate to green them up more. But the lockout was caused by the pH being too low.
 
SSHZ said:
My pH probe went bad, I didn't realize it until the plants poor health showed up. Got a new one in 2 days, back on the straight and narrow and things have greatly improved on both sides of the room. My pH out of the well is high, maybe 7.2 so I adjust to 6.3 and flush with plain water at 30-50ppm. Only 1 flush was necessary, since it was early in the grow. Wait a day, then restart fertilizatIon at a higher rate to green them up more. But the lockout was caused by the pH being too low.
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Soil, Coco, or true Hydro?
 
Soil is a PIA to change the media PH from what I remember? I could take several days.

I’m a coco grower and in 1 gallon pots it’s easy. When in doubt flush it out with 50% nutrient solution preferably with a little extra calmag at the correct ph and check runoff until the Ph is back where it should be!

True hydro is probably even easier but I have never been down that road and have no experience!

Best of luck!

Peace
 
image.jpgimage.jpgI'm in ProMix, probably the most forgiving medium there is............

Another round of pic's, Biscotti first and the All Starz. Then I'll wait another week before the next one so you can judge growth.
 
Thinking about how to proceed with fertilization.......my normal routine for years has been in flowering:

1st 2 Weeks- 100% veg fertilzer

Weeks 3-6- 50%/50% veg/bloom

Weeks 7-8(or 9) 100% bloom

Then plain water til the chop. Stop Cal/Mag last 2 weeks.

Last crop, I switched to 100% bloom in week 1 and was happy with the results. This crop, I'm still at 100% veg, since the plants were under fed (and light green) because of the pH issues. I'll probably go back to my normal regimen, at least for now.
 
That’s a very well documented grow that one from 2012 ..liked reading that.short but sweet….and I loved the stacking from the green poison. Imagine it under the Gavita.
 
My earliest diaries are from 2010, and it's interesting to compare now vs then.......mites back then were a real issue, especially in the summer months when the room temp's were more difficult to control.
 
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I worked this morning on the All Starz side of the room, trying to even out the canopy by raising some of the shorter plants........way too many phenos on these girls. But looks great....... I turned the led off, to show you just how green everything is now- you sure can't see it with the lights on.image.jpg
 
So, as always, I always put the sticky yellow traps in the pots, as an early detection system for gnats and such. Yesterday, I saw this:

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So, I flushed with Venerate and sprayed an hour after lights out with Monterey Insect Spray........the traps do a great job of stopping things from getting out of hand. The spraying takes care of some of the more stubborn ones.
 
Only my opinion!

I fertilize with 50%ish of the recommended EC until the last week. The last week I only add RO water daily to the reservoir cutting it basically 15%ish each day.

Unless there is a ph or nutrients lock out problem I do not flush COCO and if I do have a problem I flush with 50% less than I’m currently feeding and a lil extra calmag! As well as adjust the ph to make the runoff go up/down or whatever is required.

Again only my opinion but an Olympic Athlete may eat less the week before their event but ain’t no coach going to starve them (flush) for an entire week before their event.

This only applies to coco/hydro. Soil has enough nutrients in it to probably make flushing necessary!

Peace
 
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View attachment 79013View attachment 79014I'm in ProMix, probably the most forgiving medium there is............

Another round of pic's, Biscotti first and the All Starz. Then I'll wait another week before the next one so you can judge growth.
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Maybe I’m not seeing it and good chance I don’t know. But the first thing I would do is get your pots elevated an inch or 2 off the bottom of the tent so they can drain properly.
Two 1/2” pieces of pvc under the pots will work and will only cost a couple bucks.
 
SSHZ said:
View attachment 79013View attachment 79014I'm in ProMix, probably the most forgiving medium there is............

Another round of pic's, Biscotti first and the All Starz. Then I'll wait another week before the next one so you can judge growth.
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Not sure which premix you are running and I agree that it is very forgiving. However I would still add 20-30% more perlite. Just my opinion bud!
 
you don’t get much runoff if any…do you give them plain water sometimes ..I hardly ever see nute burn on your gals.
 
Use organic fertilizer, you won't get burns.......that's first. I never flush in veg, week 6 i'll start a fresh water flush every 3-4 waterings in flowering. Water never runs out of my pots, so it keeps the floor dry and humidity down (at least lower than it would have been). But I water every day in flowering- every day! There's no right or wrong, if it works for you.
 
Really the challenge this grow is the wide spread of tall and short phenos with the All Starz. I have the shorter plants on bricks, to raise them up some so the pic's are not accurate. There's probably no more than a couple inches difference with the Biscotti's- it's a matter of breeding.
 
The Biscotti took their marching orders and all lined up with a pretty even canopy...........early stretching has begun.

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After my initial pH issues, both strains bounced back and are very happy at day 13........

Blue Lab claims the probes should be replaced every 18 months and calibrated monthly. Mine lasted 4 years (i went back and found the purchase on Amazon) and it was calibrated each crop. lol I'm figuring the probe was out of whack for about 2 months. When I inspected it, it was crusty deep into the glass.
 
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can you show a pic of your blue lab ph pen? sshz .It must b a different pen one to what I think you have lol.
 
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