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[steamroller]

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[Observer]

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[Stoneyluv]

you had three gallons of water in your air tubes? from that much condensation?!? wow, not sure i ever heard of that one!! poke weep holes?

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is this more plants flowering than you had the last run?

do you have them in three gallon containers?

your plants look fantastic!!!

 

[steamroller]

you had three gallons of water in your air tubes? from that much condensation?!? wow, not sure i ever heard of that one!! poke weep holes?

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is this more plants flowering than you had the last run?

do you have them in three gallon containers?

your plants look fantastic!!!

Thanks man~!
Yea at least 3 g in the tube like this
It runs out ceiling and across the 'roof/top' of the room to other side where it drops down and goes back in room couple feet above the floor..Probably 20-25 feet long.
Crazy right~! I guess pumping out 84f/ 60RH through 40f air creates condensation.
Same number ball parkingly as all my grows.
3 gallon containers that I am questioning now..
Too late to up pot and a huge pain now.

So I got 3@5' metal 6" round duct and some elbows. I already have a T and can use the flex line or get whatever else I need tomorrow.
Plan on pitching it to where it enters room and then have a T in line to allow all condensation to drip out.
May even collect it and re use it in the humidifier?
Hope to get it hooked up tomorrow.
I would like to keep the lines sealed as much as possible for the CO2.
I knew there was some condensation when I repositioned the fans, but never thought it would get like it did.

 

[GrumpAzz]

ball parkingly

 

[Stoneyluv]

Thanks man~!
Yea at least 3 g in the tube like this View attachment 38829
It runs out ceiling and across the 'roof/top' of the room to other side where it drops down and goes back in room couple feet above the floor..Probably 20-25 feet long.
Crazy right~! I guess pumping out 84f/ 60RH through 40f air creates condensation.
Same number ball parkingly as all my grows.
3 gallon containers that I am questioning now..
Too late to up pot and a huge pain now.

So I got 3@5' metal 6" round duct and some elbows. I already have a T and can use the flex line or get whatever else I need tomorrow.
Plan on pitching it to where it enters room and then have a T in line to allow all condensation to drip out.
May even collect it and re use it in the humidifier?
Hope to get it hooked up tomorrow.
I would like to keep the lines sealed as much as possible for the CO2.
I knew there was some condensation when I repositioned the fans, but never thought it would get like it did.

that's a crazy problem to deal with!! maybe insulated tube would help? the kind used for forced hot air. just not sure if it's worth the money.

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and i thought thats why you bought those carrots and went through the work of elevating your water supply and all that so they would keep up your watering?

 

[steamroller]

that's a crazy problem to deal with!! maybe insulated tube would help? the kind used for forced hot air. just not sure if it's worth the money.

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and i thought thats why you bought those carrots and went through the work of elevating your water supply and all that so they would keep up your watering?

I will get this condensation thing whipped.
Insulated pipe wouldn't cool the room. Trying to cool the room and keep it sealed is what the circulation loop is all about.
The AC/heater can only be used one way, so now it is a heater for at night.
In the summer I use it as AC so keeping this sealed loop will be a permanent thing.
I just may not use it when I can use the AC.
I actually have geo thermal cooling/ heating ideas in my head basically the same as the loop but underground. Just bury a heavy duty 6 inch line for XXfeet coming and going from room with fans on each end. Wonder if it would clog up with condensation under ground. That could be a problem.

I will probably be needing to hook up the blumats with or without the drip rings.
The plants are drinking at different rates for sure and keeping track of them will be a PIA.
It really seemed last run that the 5g was very slow to dry back.
I realized minutes after up potting I had not drilled side holes for the carrots and cursed.
A good dry back and I can probably pull each plant out of there pot easy.
They do all seem to have stretched/ grown pretty good in the last couple weeks.
The room besides incidents and accidents is staying withing 5 degrees light on and off still.
I will start to lower night temps sometime week 3-4 or so.

 

[steamroller]

ball parkingly

My wife says I never give direct answers.
My response to her was probably not~!
My probably is better than 99% of other peoples yes, and my probably not is better than 99% of other peoples no.
There is always just a hint of possibility that I do not have control over and I ain't owning that shit~! That's the 1% probably~!
Ball parkingly means yes~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

I will get this condensation thing whipped.
Insulated pipe wouldn't cool the room. Trying to cool the room and keep it sealed is what the circulation loop is all about.
The AC/heater can only be used one way, so now it is a heater for at night.
In the summer I use it as AC so keeping this sealed loop will be a permanent thing.
I just may not use it when I can use the AC.
I actually have geo thermal cooling/ heating ideas in my head basically the same as the loop but underground. Just bury a heavy duty 6 inch line for XXfeet coming and going from room with fans on each end. Wonder if it would clog up with condensation under ground. That could be a problem.

I will probably be needing to hook up the blumats with or without the drip rings.
The plants are drinking at different rates for sure and keeping track of them will be a PIA.
It really seemed last run that the 5g was very slow to dry back.
I realized minutes after up potting I had not drilled side holes for the carrots and cursed.
A good dry back and I can probably pull each plant out of there pot easy.
They do all seem to have stretched/ grown pretty good in the last couple weeks.
The room besides incidents and accidents is staying withing 5 degrees light on and off still.
I will start to lower night temps sometime week 3-4 or so.

geo thermal would be slick man that could help you out all year round like that!!

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none of my plants ever drink the same either man, even when they're the same strain.. it's why i bailed on my diy drip rings. but those carrots might be the trick, maybe melt the hole in with an old spark plug socket or something, maybe a piece of rolled up copper and a torch? wouldn't tear the roots up at all and wouldn't have to disturb the plants...

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i messed up my equal temps when i moved mine over to the flower cabinet, no room for a heater in there with the nine plants so since then i've had an 8* swing so i think i messed that up right at end of veg. we'll see,, mine or short right now so i won't mind a stretch this round.

keep warm!!

 

[steamroller]

Man I went out and started installing 6 inch metal ducting in 5 foot lengths and the hose was almost full again~!
The plants are using a lot of water IMO but the RH is high at 60-70 depending.
Left the line open ended so the loop and room is not sealed as of now.
Kind of wondering even if I get the water out of the line if the rooms RH being sealed will be a problem moving forward into flower.

I don't think 8 degrees is that much swing really.
I think mine went over 10 in the beginning before sealing.
Will have to see how low it goes tonight being unsealed.
The blumats only allow water when needed so they really will be a life saver for me soon.
They are even adjustable so once figured out I could let them get pretty dry hopefully before watering again.
Dry backs has been my concern but only 1 way to find out.

 

[Observer]

Man I went out and started installing 6 inch metal ducting in 5 foot lengths and the hose was almost full again~!
The plants are using a lot of water IMO but the RH is high at 60-70 depending.
Left the line open ended so the loop and room is not sealed as of now.
Kind of wondering even if I get the water out of the line if

the rooms RH being sealed will be a problem moving forward into flower.

Worried it'll rise too high?

I don't think 8 degrees is that much swing really.
I think mine went over 10 in the beginning before sealing.
Will have to see how low it goes tonight being unsealed.
The blumats only allow water when needed so they really will be a life saver for me soon.

They are even adjustable so once figured out I could let them get pretty dry hopefully before watering again.

That could help balance the RH, less water in the plants, but possibly reduce yield, if that's a huge concern.

Dry backs has been my concern but only 1 way to fi out.

 

[steamroller]

I just need to get a dehumidifier probably.
Killed mine last year and never replaced it.

 

[Observer]

I just need to get a dehumidifier probably.
Killed mine last year and never replaced it.

What would you go with for you're room/scale?

 

[steamroller]

I could probably get away with 1500 sq ft but will probably go bigger.

 

[Observer]

I could probably get away with 1500 sq ft

but will probably go bigger.

Machine won't have to work as hard and not burn out as fast

but ikyk

 

[steamroller]

Mid week snow day check in.
I found 3 plants wilted again today~! They are all on their own schedule but I watered and fed them all.
100% feed strength 321 with Mr.Fluvic and Kelp and Open Sesame.
The room is still not sealed so now the moisture just flows out the end of the 6 inch line.
I have placed a 22g Brute under it for now. Sure it will freeze.

Got it in my head to install my 2x4 tent in the room and start next crop.
I know I am way early and need to keep all plants in the tent until this grow is done.
I don't see it going past 4/1 maybe the room will be tied up a little longer drying?
Itching to start more of my seeds but trying to resist.
Maybe Feb.1? Then only 8-10 weeks total in tent.
I have been watching JonnyBoi84 mainline and maybe that would fit the tent better, longer?
I know you saw it too Stoney....

 

[GrumpAzz]

Mid week snow day check in.
I found 3 plants wilted again today~! They are all on their own schedule but I watered and fed them all.
100% feed strength 321 with Mr.Fluvic and Kelp and Open Sesame.
The room is still not sealed so now the moisture just flows out the end of the 6 inch line.
I have placed a 22g Brute under it for now. Sure it will freeze.

Got it in my head to install my 2x4 tent in the room and start next crop.
I know I am way early and need to keep all plants in the tent until this grow is done.
I don't see it going past 4/1 maybe the room will be tied up a little longer drying?
Itching to start more of my seeds but trying to resist.
Maybe Feb.1? Then only 8-10 weeks total in tent.
I have been watching JonnyBoi84 mainline and maybe that would fit the tent better, longer?
I know you saw it too Stoney....
View attachment 39322

We've all seen that mainline grow. It's art.

 

[Stoneyluv]

that mainlining he has going on is so awesome!!! i got to try it at some point... i mean it's just too cool to not try!!! i stunted and hurt my current crop way worse than what that would do and they're still living so i guess i shouldn't be scared.

i bet they would veg more than ten weeks easy so there would be no harm is getting started now.

i've been itching too.. so many great strains to try, so little time!!!

 

[steamroller]

Looking back at his thread [research I say~!] he is just at 3 weeks- 1 month now.
So with my handicap you may be right.
Could start anytime.
He really has posted good info and I feel confident following his lead.
He doesn't do anything till the sixth node. So it is straight forward easy starting.
My only issue would be slacker, but I got the itch and seeds that are screaming to me.

 

[Observer]

Mainlining/scrogging is the way to go, especially when adhering to a maximum plant count.

Yield Go Up, and "quality" of the buds are better.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Looking back at his thread [research I say~!] he is just at 3 weeks- 1 month now.
So with my handicap you may be right.
Could start anytime.
He really has posted good info and I feel confident following his lead.
He doesn't do anything till the sixth node. So it is straight forward easy starting.
My only issue would be slacker, but I got the itch and seeds that are screaming to me.

yeah i agree i would have no problem following his rules, seems pretty straight forward!!

i think the key for me will be getting the great growth from the beginning, lights just right, minimal stretch, and tight nodes.

and i gotta say if there is any time we would want to listen to the moon i think this would be the time. for both topping and bending.

would you still start the same amount of plants? i think i might wanna only flower four if they're that big!!

 

[steamroller]

I would want to fill all six light spaces in the room.
So probably 2 per light being best this style of grow.
12 maybe.
Seems low to me but need to learn restraint. Did that sound serious? I have been practicing lying..Any good~!
I also figure I could start my usual ball park of 20 and then mainline as many as I want and not the others depending on room in tent.
For me it is about the room in the tent. Going to have to see how many 1g buckets fit. That would be as large as want in the tent hopefully.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Seems low to me but need to learn restraint. Did that sound serious? I have been practicing lying..Any good~!

i believed ya!!!

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yeah i'll start more than i want as well. maybe mainline some and leave a few alone just in case... maybe even keep a few for moms and run clones the round after that. at least start enough to have the options.

maybe you can even fit 16 in your tent, then you could have more options/problems!! hehe

 

[Stoneyluv]

It's timer change thursday!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smoke em if ya got em!!!

 

[steamroller]

I am right there with you bro~!
I got an extended extended weekend.
I did not know for sure till just hours ago but hell yea~!
Just found a jar of canna honey I must have made and am adding to tea as we speak.
Breaking out the seahorse and the isowash~!

Lights to 13 on 11 off.
I have a preliminary seed list~!
Man I have a bunch of seeds~!
So from GreenPoint I will pop
Max AC
Purple Crunch
Fruit Punch
From B2ACG I will pop
Sirius Black
London Pound Cake
Cherry Pie
Super Lemon Haze
Cookies & Cream
From DFG I will pop
Zamal Dreams
Thinking of popping 3 of each and picking the best 2. kind of a safety net to make sure I have 2 of each. I have never done anything like that and not sure if I will be able to dispose of any if I have too.
All beans are female.
The Zamal Dreams and Fruit punch will be repeats of what is in room now all the others are unopened 5/6 packs.

That is if I can fit 19 1 gallon pots in tent.
I think I can 3x6 easy.
SSHZ sent seeds out today so if they arrive in time I may switch out the cookies and cream for what he sent.

@CannaGranny says Jan 22-24 is best for planting and the 23 is my 59th birthday so that may be the day or real close to when it is pop time~!

 

[moe.red]

Ok finally went out to room, and just in time.
The dry back could not have been better. Just starting to wilt were the largest.
All in all plants look good but I have been pushing and getting nervous.
Pulled the lights up, maybe the plants were growing into them but they are around 16 inches up now still @75%
Also been feeding hard so only water and Mg for the plants that showed the most from before.
Also did a little extra stressing and added clips to largest and one of the Zamal Dreams[ different pheno from other 2].
View attachment 38039
^^ before clips^^ ^^ wavy crazy XXX that makes me nervous^^
View attachment 38040
^^ 2 'smaller' Zamal Dreams. 2 different phenos as the one on right is lenky and on left is bush~!^^
View attachment 38044
^ Tight bush ^
View attachment 38045
^^ The lenky one ~!^^ I LST clipped her after picture.
View attachment 38041
^^ Largest of the Zamal Dreams^^
View attachment 38042
^^ LST clipped these last 3^^
Got to pulling some water leaves mostly near bottom and in the middle of plants.
View attachment 38043
^^Leaves of the Zamal Dreams are monsters~!^^
57 and 46 days old.
I do see pistils on some here. Lights are at 15/9 till Thurs/ Friday then 14/10.
Happy growing all~!

lol tight bush.

Love the grow man, always fun to watch a master at work.

 

[moe.red]

Pots are going through water fast. I haven't tried the drip rings yet but may need to. Daily watering to run off with some~!
Everybody looks pretty good and officially got my drought stress in. Didn't plan it but caught it in time.
Had an "issue" in the room the other day. It was 91f~! I thought it might get warm being sealed and it not being freezing here.
What caused the heat I never would have thought of. The recirculation hose [ 6 inch] for the infinity fans was 100% full of water in a low section completely stopping all flow~! So much condensation is happening in the line that there was maybe 3 gallons when I disconnected it and drained it~!
I have a plan moving forward to control this. Will explain with photos when I do it[ slacker you know].
So the room went to 14 hours on Thursday. Pistils showing on many if not all.
Gonna end up tossing the one Rum Runner that went sideways. I have had 0 luck recovering her.
View attachment 38720
^^ Zamal dreams all pistilling up.Tight nodes^^
View attachment 38722
^^ LST clipped the largest Zamal Dreams yesterday^^
Quick video of room;
View attachment 38727

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^^ The room without CO2 ~!^^
Got the replacement bottle in the video but gonna wait a couple days before hooking it up.
Not sure if it will be an issue but I'll monitor. Last tank went a little faster at 11-12 days~!
Been giving just water and MG last 3 waterings. They have all been since Tuesday.
Next watering gets back to 3-2-1 with dose of open sesame.
Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend~!

Any chance you have a welding store close? You could use a bigger bottle my man!

I use the 4' aluminum ones for beverages because the steel ones that size are too heavy for me to handle by myself. $41 for a refill, lasts me more than a grow per bottle.

 

[steamroller]

My tanks come from the local welding supply.
The room is not sealed ATM but if I get it sealed again I have next bottle waiting.
I considered the larger and truly need it but like you said don't want to move them around.
Everything cost more in NY.
I get paid more in NY.
Vicious cycle.

 

[steamroller]

 

[Stoneyluv]

I am right there with you bro~!
I got an extended extended weekend.
I did not know for sure till just hours ago but hell yea~!
Just found a jar of canna honey I must have made and am adding to tea as we speak.
Breaking out the seahorse and the isowash~!
View attachment 39770
Lights to 13 on 11 off.
I have a preliminary seed list~!
Man I have a bunch of seeds~!
So from GreenPoint I will pop
Max AC
Purple Crunch
Fruit Punch
From B2ACG I will pop
Sirius Black
London Pound Cake
Cherry Pie
Super Lemon Haze
Cookies & Cream
From DFG I will pop
Zamal Dreams
Thinking of popping 3 of each and picking the best 2. kind of a safety net to make sure I have 2 of each. I have never done anything like that and not sure if I will be able to dispose of any if I have too.
All beans are female.
The Zamal Dreams and Fruit punch will be repeats of what is in room now all the others are unopened 5/6 packs.

That is if I can fit 19 1 gallon pots in tent.
I think I can 3x6 easy.
SSHZ sent seeds out today so if they arrive in time I may switch out the cookies and cream for what he sent.

@CannaGranny says Jan 22-24 is best for planting and the 23 is my 59th birthday so that may be the day or real close to when it is pop time~!

hell yeah weekend off.. party time!!!!!

man every one of those strains sounds like my new favorite! especially the B2ACG's!!

i'm going to start the same ratio, i want two of each so i will start three and have more on the ready just in case some don't pop. even if they're a week or more apart i don't care i just want three of each to pick from.

i have soil so i'm ready to go, all i need to do is plug in my heater and heat mat... bro i am so down to start em out for your B-day start... i did that with three that i have with my own birthday!!! i started them a day earlier so they popped open on the day!!!

i'm still gonna wait till the 25th for the pruning though. i haven't pulled off a single fan yet!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

hell yeah weekend off.. party time!!!!!

man every one of those strains sounds like my new favorite! especially the B2ACG's!!

i'm going to start the same ratio, i want two of each so i will start three and have more on the ready just in case some don't pop. even if they're a week or more apart i don't care i just want three of each to pick from.

i have soil so i'm ready to go, all i need to do is plug in my heater and heat mat... bro i am so down to start em out for your B-day start... i did that with three that i have with my own birthday!!! i started them a day earlier so they popped open on the day!!!

i'm still gonna wait till the 25th for the pruning though. i haven't pulled off a single fan yet!!!

My first plant popped on my daughter's birthday and that plant really did well. Maybe you guys are onto something...

 

[moe.red]

My first plant popped on my daughter's birthday and that plant really did well. Maybe you guys are onto something...

Do plants have zodiac signs and horoscopes?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Do plants have zodiac signs and horoscopes?

Be right back. I'll go ask her

 

[steamroller]

Do plants have zodiac signs and horoscopes?

No but moon phases & astrological signs should be figured in to your grow if you can.
No joke the plant is water like people and the ocean.
We can see that 2 of those things have reactions to the moon throughout history. My money says the third one does too.
Yea there are good days to plant, prune, top all according to the moon and some of us are in~!

 

[steamroller]

Installed the blumats and small drip rings yesterday.
Quick check this morning and no flooding or wilting so happy.
I buried the carrots basically as deep as possible from surface.

 

[GoodShit97]

Installed the blumats and small drip rings yesterday.
Quick check this morning and no flooding or wilting so happy.
I buried the carrots basically as deep as possible from surface.

You and nesta are really breakin my arm to buy a set of these things.

i want them just to set up so i can travel during flower.

 

[steamroller]

You and nesta are really breakin my arm to buy a set of these things.

i want them just to set up when i can travel during flower.

I got them for traveling last year.
I think the trick is to get the right dry back, which is why I am checking on them so much.
Just setting them up I need to make sure they don't water too much but stop any wilt.
With all the different strains it is a real PIA to keep them all 'happy' so I am hoping to incorporate these into daily/regular use for rest of grow.
If I can get decent 'dry back' or close then I will still feed manually.
Kind of hoping if soil is not completely dry that feeding will flow through soil better to all roots?
Maybe I am dreaming. The common effects of wake and bake~!
They were about $12 each with everything you need included besides the reservoir.
I got them in 5 packs for just under $60.

Failed to mention I have lights at 100% now since mid week.

 

[GoodShit97]

With all the different strains it is a real PIA to keep them all 'happy'

This was something i worried about too, because i never run more than 2 of the same strain, and sometimes theyre still different phenos unless clones obviously.

If I can get decent 'dry back' or close then I will still feed manually.

Yeah i planned to hand feed, i just wanted them to keep plants watered so i dont need to have anyone in my room while im gone anymore.
I have someone pop in and take care of my animals but id rather them not touch my plants anymore lol.
Idk how "clean" this dude is about bugs and such so id rather just eliminate that factor from my grow.

 

[Stoneyluv]

i want them just to set up so i can travel during flower.

you can't afford to go anywhere!!!! you just sit you ass at home and water your plants like the rest of us!!!!

I have lights at 100% now since mid week.

ahhh yeah!!!!! are you putting in other lights for flowering?

 

[steamroller]

ahhh yeah!!!!! are you putting in other lights for flowering?

If I can kick the slackers ass we might get the 8000's and tent in there today or tomorrow.