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^^ Cherry Gar See Ya^^
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^^ Cherry Gar See Ya^^
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^^ Fruit Punch^^
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^^ Zamal Dreams^^
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^^Zamal Dreams^^
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^^ Crazy long branches on mainline^^
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^^ Cut for mainline but branches too short to train yet~!^^
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^^ Full tent^^ All but a few got topped.
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^^London pound cake
Cherry Pie [ center] Cherry Pie [ Right] not topped.
Thinking they are autos.
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^^ Cherry Pie^^ Pistils all the way down.​
Lookin really good man, flower room looks awesome 👌🏼
Kind of a bum deal on the autos 😳 but at least youll still get smoke off em
 
Lookin really good man, flower room looks awesome 👌🏼
Kind of a bum deal on the autos 😳 but at least youll still get smoke off em
Put the two chops off the Sirius Black in soil and crossing my fingers.🤞
They are little bushes. Shortest plants in the tent. Liking that for the indoor growing.
Still have the ZD cuts from over a month ago. No real growth but not dead or dying either?🤷‍♂️

Kind of feel like I should be feeding the 'autos' differently.
Been trying to be real slow and do as little with new girls as possible but feel that will lead to trouble with them soon.
Thought I was seeing pistils also on the Super Lemon Haze but now not so sure. I topped 2 of them and left one un topped just in case still.:cautious:
 
Looking great. When I get a plant I know from growing before it has alot of space between nodes I leave more than 2 mains on it.
 
i can see why you grew the zamal dreams again, she's a beaut!!!!

how about the fruit punch? you ever grow that one before? she's a frosty meatball for sure!!!

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i got some of the same issue with my mainlines, the container is too narrow to tie down some of the ends already. that short timing might help with that, if we would have topped sooner maybe those nodes wouldn't have stretched so far yet. learning...
 
First time for both ZD and FP.
They both look like keepers~!
Funny is I have 3 ZD in flower and all are different phenos or something.
One is tall and the other tight bush.
2 tight bushes but one has barely any sign of pistils~! The other monster buds I think my dreams are made of~!
Got 4 clones in the veg tent but think they are slow bush not fast?
You bet I will keep an eye on which clone is which with the 3 ZD in the veg tent when the time comes.
The FP seems outstanding even with the funny phone color pics? Never grew super frosty stuff before. Consensus is it don't matter really towards buzz.
Sure does look pretty though.
Funniest to the stoner is last time I mixed up the Cherry Gar See Ya and Planet Grape and could never tell them apart.
The difference is real easy to see in the flowers now.
None of them have the color of the CG. Going to get a good clear shot of her for sure. :love:

The training is slacker~! Welcome to it, or being around it. I am usually anal about seedlings and keeping them small for first 3 weeks.
Really beat down one grow for a month before it saw the good lights. This grow I just grew seed with effort. Maybe too much?
They seem tall for the most to me 3 out of 4 I would say.
And I never really noticed specifically but it seems the branches at the nodes are very small for plant size to me on my plants.
The Sirius Blacks are the 2 small bushes in this grow I am most interested in along with the DFG gear.
The Zamal Dreams and GMO X Orange Dreams are growing real even with each other. Topped all the DFG and SB.
Ordered DFG seeds today after thinking more on the autos.
Got his latest limited drop.
Grape Skunk Dog regulars
The latest release from the DFG / Matchmaker seeds collab! Grape Pie (Archive cut - cannarado bred) x Triangle Skunk (MMS bred - DFG selection) 10 Regular seeds per packk. This is a small release - after splitting stock with matchmaker, running testing on the line, will only be dropping 15 packs total so I have enough to f2 the line sometime. Terp profile : Grape, Sour, Gas, Skunk. This one isn't the most massive yields, but makes very dense, evenly sized, easy trimming, dank buds. Very resinous with grape and gas being the main smells and tastes. Many phenos will also display colorful buds when broken up. Easy growing, with 2x stretch, and a 8-10 week flower time depending on desired ripeness. Take later for the headstash, 8 week for the quick turnarounds. All in all, this new release is sure to please the picky smokers, and the "Fruit + gas" crowd as well.​
Looking to find one more box of Ethos Hash Plant Regulars and may have the beans that grow me for years here.
 
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^^Zamal Dreams^^
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^^ Cut for mainline but branches too short to train yet~!^^
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^^London pound cake
Cherry Pie [ center] Cherry Pie [ Right] not topped.
Thinking they are autos.
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^^ Cherry Pie^^ Pistils all the way down.​
Beautiful!
 
Not fooling around.
Just ordered Ethos Hash Plant Regulars. 17 seeds~!:)
I have an open pack, but they are getting retired and out of stock at many suppliers already.
Got enough regulars it will be a good old flip and see thing when I grow them.
The new DFG are regulars and Jeff sent me several bonus regulars last time.
I might still be able to grow 4-5 strains all DFG and Hash Plant.
 
Not fooling around.
Just ordered Ethos Hash Plant Regulars. 17 seeds~!:)
I have an open pack, but they are getting retired and out of stock at many suppliers already.
Got enough regulars it will be a good old flip and see thing when I grow them.
The new DFG are regulars and Jeff sent me several bonus regulars last time.
I might still be able to grow 4-5 strains all DFG and Hash Plant.
Thanks for the info, i ordered 2 packs of the hash plant last November and only received one pack of the hp and let Jeff know obout the order mix up. I received package yesterday from DFG, there was 4 freebies in this package but still no hash plant. Maybe your above post explains why. I have a pm into Jeff yesterday
 
Not fooling around.
Just ordered Ethos Hash Plant Regulars. 17 seeds~!:)
I have an open pack, but they are getting retired and out of stock at many suppliers already.
Got enough regulars it will be a good old flip and see thing when I grow them.
The new DFG are regulars and Jeff sent me several bonus regulars last time.
I might still be able to grow 4-5 strains all DFG and Hash Plant.
Oooooh hash plant😍
Thatll be a fun run for sure!
im hoping my stuff from Jeff comes today🤞🏻
Not in any real hurry just wanna get some started asap lol.
 
Thanks for the info, i ordered 2 packs of the hash plant last November and only received one pack of the hp and let Jeff know obout the order mix up. I received package yesterday from DFG, there was 4 freebies in this package but still no hash plant. Maybe your above post explains why. I have a pm into Jeff yesterday
I did not get Hash Plant from Jeff.
They are my Ethos favorite. Ethos is retiring them.
I am sure I will give more of Jeffs stuff a go in the future.

ETHOS HASH PLANT BX1​

ETHOS KUSH IBL #13 x CALIFORNIA BLACK ROZÉ

STATS:​

Variety: M/F Photo
Flowering Time: <56-63 Days
Yield: Average
TAC: 20-25%

TERPENES:​

Hashy Pepper
Dry Floral
Old Meat

FYI:​

This combination of the fast flowering, compact Ethos Kush IBL #13 with the OG Eddy Lepp/Zkittlez combo from Dying Breed Seeds is an absolute must for any OG Kush or Afghan Kush enthusiast.
Oooooh hash plant😍
Thatll be a fun run for sure!
im hoping my stuff from Jeff comes today🤞🏻
Not in any real hurry just wanna get some started asap lol.
Yea Hash Plant is a favorite for sure.
Going to clean up the tent today.
Want the autos? 2 Cherry Pie and 1 London pound cake. I have 4 zamal dreams I chopped probably 3 weeks ago also in solo cups that look to be alive.
Not sure if they are fast or slow bush though.
I need to make room so those are the first to go.
 
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Yea Hash Plant is a favorite for sure.
Going to clean up the tent today.
Want the autos? 2 Cherry Pie and 1 London pound cake. I have 4 zamal dreams I chopped probably 3 weeks ago also in solo cups that look to be alive.
Not sure if they are fast or slow bush though.
I need to make room so those are the first to go.
If i had the room id drive up today and get em but im already stuffed to the gills lol.
I definitely appreciate the offer though
 
Ok took the autos out of tent and just let them hang out in room.🤷‍♂️
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Not sure if autos need or want 12/12 don't care~! They will do what they do.
Not real pleased all the way around. Tent is acting weird since start and the mainlines look crappy~!
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^^Just about all have new leaves looking like this and have the whole grow. Light is 20%,RH is 55-60 temp rarely goes over 80. 🤷‍♂️ They straighten out as they grow which can be seen but this is basically the whole tent. Every top.🤬
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^^ Purple Crunch^^_____________________________________________________^^ Max AC with a broken arm .^^______________________
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^^Sirius Black^^____________________________________________________________^^ Fruit Punch^^_____________________________
Kind want all of them out of the tent and the room seems to agree. It appears I have underfed several of the plants and they will be done anytime now~!
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Probably 4-6 of these will not make it much more than a week before they are leafless~!
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^^Every leaf is yellow red and dying. Planet of the Grapes^^ The other PG is close but not so far gone.
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^^ Mandarin Cookies R3 with leaves on their way out^^
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^^ Zamal Dreams is only fantastic looking plant in the group.^^
Many others do not look so drastically finished/finishing so they can keep going till they are done.
Turned the 8000's down to 80% and probably need to go lower for the finishing plants.
It is clear that 1 Zamal Dream and the Rum Runner will be flowering for maybe 2 more month~! They both look like week 2 candidates~!
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^^ZD #3 slow bush^^_____________________________^^ Rum Runner^^
Both look like great little bushes but are slower than sin~!
I am 99% sure my ZD clones in tent are from the best bush since they all had flowers bigger than these when I clipped them over a month ago.
That might be the good news for this report.🤷‍♂️
Hope everyone is having a great weekend.
It's almost race time~! 🥳
 
So made it to 60f outside today and 92f in the room~!
Not what was needed. Turned the FC 8000's down to 75% and the AC infinity exhaust and intake fan speed to 10. The big lights just make a lot of heat.
The transformers aren't really even in the room~! They are in the metal duct after the exhaust fan.
Dropped night temp to 65 on heater and will check low temp tomorrow evening. May be able to switch the heater over to AC already~!
The plants did not need 92f. 4-6 will definitely be done this weekend if they make it that long and maybe 4 others as well for a total of 10 done~!
The heat and lack of nutes are whipping the leaves. I fed the slower and water only for finishers.
The buds look and smell great, but I know I lost 2-3 good weeks of better growth if I had fed enough.
Pulled tops off of a couple of the mainlines so they will have 8 tops each if they ever branch.
Everyone in tent got wholly mackerel and MG.
 
Ok real pictures that are not cell phone funny color~!
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^^ All 3 pics Planet of the Grapes now cut and paper bagged^^
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^^ All 3 pics second Planet of the Grapes also cut and paper bagged just hours ago^^
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DSC_0803 - Copy.JPG^^ All 3 pics Mandarin Cookies R3^^
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^^ All 3 pics Mandarin cookie R3 #2^^
Both are next to be cut this weekend.

Looks great steam!🔥🔥🔥

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum 🤔
Even easier but not as effective is I could have said Bud Builders~!
I talked through the videos~!🥴
Slacker for sure~!:D
 
How'd the BluMats work out for you vs the watering rings you have in your pots?
Once dialed in they worked great.
But they are not the easiest to dial in.
I would be leery indoors.
I had more than a few overflows trying to adjust through the grow cycle.
I will use the blu mats again for sure.
You still have to pay attention incase one does not open up before plant gets to dry.
It is hard/ impossible unless running and you see the wet soil to know where the pot is at without lifting or moisture meter.
I still used both even today~!
 
Once dialed in they worked great.
But they are not the easiest to dial in.
I would be leery indoors.
I had more than a few overflows trying to adjust through the grow cycle.
I will use the blu mats again for sure.
You still have to pay attention incase one does not open up before plant gets to dry.
It is hard/ impossible unless running and you see the wet soil to know where the pot is at without lifting or moisture meter.
I still used both even today~!
So would you recommend them for indoor growers? It sounds like the dialing in period is challenging. It also sounds like maintenance is just as time intensive as other irrigation systems.

I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons vs a system like the one I made which is more traditional. One of the things I like about a system like BluMat is that it feeds when the soil hits a threshold so it can feed according to plant needs rather than a schedule that the grower applies through his knowledge but if you have to monitor whether the sensing is actuating the BluMat I'm not sure how this system has an advantage over any other type of system.

I've never run them so this is not an indictment on whether they work or not but I don't see the advantages over other systems. Maybe your experience can fill in some of the knowledge gaps I have about that system.
 
They don't have to be managed or maintained if you get them dialed in.
Just saying through the whole grow re adjusting them was not perfect for me.
A couple times after I adjusted improperly the plant was giving enough water to overflow the drain tray and would have kept going if I didn't check it.
Those can be credited to user error but with a finished floor I am not sure that excuse holds water.
My room is on an outdoor concrete pad so it did not matter to me but I would want everyone to know the risk involved with them.
Also adjusting them is way easier without the drip rings in place but I rarely took the time to disconnect them.
 
They don't have to be managed or maintained if you get them dialed in.
Just saying through the whole grow re adjusting them was not perfect for me.
A couple times after I adjusted improperly the plant was giving enough water to overflow the drain tray and would have kept going if I didn't check it.
Those can be credited to user error but with a finished floor I am not sure that excuse holds water.
My room is on an outdoor concrete pad so it did not matter to me but I would want everyone to know the risk involved with them.
Also adjusting them is way easier without the drip rings in place but I rarely took the time to disconnect them.
Gotcha!!! (y)
 
man Steam they all look awesome!!!! i really like the look of the mandarin cookies!!!

i used to paper bag dry all the time. always worked perfect, especially this time of the year when it rains so much!!! like now!! haha i still have a nice collection of paper bags stashed away!!!

i really luv the colors in that fruit punch!!! i bet she looks amazing once dried up!!!! are you planning to take down the zamal dreams next weekend with the others?
 
I may wait on the Zamal dreams.
I have no clue how long to grow a plant that is still green~!:p
Maybe they will all be done by next weekend?
I was kind of shocked to see the difference in the two XXX's I have.
One is nice and green like the Rum Runner and the other is close to as gold as the Planet of the grapes I chopped today.
I am kind of in a hurry for the Fruit Punch just cause it is one of the new ones for me to try.
I did videos of the room and tent today. https://budbuilders.org/threads/ste...oint-dragonsflame-zamal-dreams.311/post-66366
 
I may wait on the Zamal dreams.
I have no clue how long to grow a plant that is still green~!:p
Maybe they will all be done by next weekend?
I was kind of shocked to see the difference in the two XXX's I have.
One is nice and green like the Rum Runner and the other is close to as gold as the Planet of the grapes I chopped today.
I am kind of in a hurry for the Fruit Punch just cause it is one of the new ones for me to try.
I did videos of the room and tent today. https://budbuilders.org/threads/ste...oint-dragonsflame-zamal-dreams.311/post-66366

i'm glad you said something, i would have missed your vids!!

wow look at how much you're gonna get from the autos!! i never thought they'd even give ya that much!!

your tent is busting out at the seams!!!!! you sure do have a lot to work with for the next round!!! :love:
 
I know for fact that the Rum Runner and the slow Zamal Dreams have possibly more than 4 weeks left.
If [slacker] I could get all but the 2ZD and 1RR cut then I think I could put them in the tent and change lighting in the room for the new.
I feel like I am cheating the tent plants from a good life. I don't think they are where they would be if they were in the room under more lights.
I can't turn the light over 25% in the tent. Got funny leaves going down to tops on branches now if they have branches.
When they come out I can up pot them also.
I won't mainline any of the others since most are tall now. Yours look so much better~! A little jelly.;) The tent is too crowded even with the autos out.
They are actually doing better than I thought they would in 12/12.:ROFLMAO:
The 2 Zamal Dreams I have going now are close to what I expect a mainline plant to be like.
2 sets of 4 tops basically close to even in each set.
I will keep stripping the bottoms and not even bother growing what won't be there in flower.
I have learned a little from this brief contact with mainlining I think already. Always looking to up the game~!
 
I know for fact that the Rum Runner and the slow Zamal Dreams have possibly more than 4 weeks left.

damn that long yet?!?!?! when they're ready they're ready and not until then i guess! the best part of waiting them out is they keep getting nicer looking each day!!!!

I feel like I am cheating the tent plants from a good life. I don't think they are where they would be if they were in the room under more lights.

When they come out I can up pot them also.

i bet they'll explode when you get them out in the open and give them some new soil!!

They are actually doing better than I thought they would in 12/12.:ROFLMAO:

hell yeah they are!! they looked kinda wispy when you showed them last time.. now it looks like you're gonna actually get some smoke from them.. shame you don't really even know what strain they are. what lighting are autos best in? is it 20/4?

I have learned a little from this brief contact with mainlining I think already. Always looking to up the game~!

that;s what it's about for me man, even if i just take one thing from it and learn something then non of it could ever be a waste. i already know i'm not gonna have a room full of colas like i dream about, but there is gonna be something and i'm taking the entire round as a learning experience.

daylight savings tonight.. my car clock will correct again!!! :ROFLMAO: and my grow light controllers will now be an hour off.. 🤷‍♂️
 
I think 18/6 is what most do for autos.
My car clocks may be right also? I don't even know where the window switch is on any given day. I know we talked about the gas caps~!:ROFLMAO:
Some how I think I figured the cars out. Even the latest that I haven't even had a year yet. Not new 2011~!
I just moved the schedule for the flower plants since I am gone all day. They were 6-6 but now 8-8. They didn't care I left them on for 2 extra hours one day.
So tomorrow they will be 7-7 and maybe I can right out there and start trimming more early.
 
I think 18/6 is what most do for autos.
My car clocks may be right also? I don't even know where the window switch is on any given day. I know we talked about the gas caps~!:ROFLMAO:
Some how I think I figured the cars out. Even the latest that I haven't even had a year yet. Not new 2011~!
I just moved the schedule for the flower plants since I am gone all day. They were 6-6 but now 8-8. They didn't care I left them on for 2 extra hours one day.
So tomorrow they will be 7-7 and maybe I can right out there and start trimming more early.

i say twice a year that i'm not changing the controller clocks at all... and then every single time i walk by the controllers the wrong clock number haunts me and drives me insane for two days until i give in and change it!!! :ROFLMAO: is this what ocd is? ..

here's one for ya... so we have an older jeep xj that has that deal where the doors lock when you drive it so every time you get out ya gotta hit the door unlock to open the back doors.. most of the time i just forget!! but you would think after all these years i'd know where the lock button is and which direction to push it... nope!!! not once.. always looking.. try one way hear nothing, try the other way till it makes noise... every time!!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~! 🥴

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.
 
I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~! 🥴

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.

i was just thinking i need to adjust something because i'm using that far red puck and that's on a smart timer that works off my router which auto changes. i need to just turn that thing off completely, i feel it's doing absolutely nothing for me.

years ago i was working in japan for a over a month so i had to drive on the other side of the road the whole time. when i came home a care service dropped me off so i didn't drive yet since being there. well that next morning i had to run an errand and i was driving alone and got to an intersection to turn left and there was no other traffic around at all and i remember just stopping on the road because i couldn't remember which lane i should turn onto!!!!! i just sat there for a minute thinking about it!!!! of coarse jet lag and having a lower weed tolerance didn't help but yeah not one of my prouder moments!!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
i was just thinking i need to adjust something because i'm using that far red puck and that's on a smart timer that works off my router which auto changes. i need to just turn that thing off completely, i feel it's doing absolutely nothing for me.
I know I followed Moes info on the far red and he said they made little to no difference so they have not caught my interest.
I am interested in lights with adjustable spectrum though.
I don't think I will just go and replace my lights but they have had several grows and are not the best lights out there so I am preparing my mind to re invest properly.
Cut the 2 Mandarin cookies this morning. May get back out there for more before races.🤷‍♂️
Just seems some of these are drying out so I got to get them before it is too late.
My humidity in the room is under 40% even with the humidifier going at 55%. Probably from exhausting warm air and intaking fresh cool air?
May be able to seal the room again and use the AC instead of heater to help with RH.
I think the heater is off the last couple nights since a short power failure. It is digital and on an InkBird controller so always looks like it is off during the warm time.
Room has only gone down to 60f at night for a low so if winter does not completely return sealing it up may help with the RH.
All my procrastinating about sealing the room [running the duct work] has paid off again as I have come up with another twist that may help keep me from losing all the moisture that the loop pulls out.
Got the duct work running from exhaust fan across top of room and pitched properly.
I was going to let it have a small drain to drip into a Rubbermaid at a 90 and then continue to the intake fan.
Now I think I will run the duct right into the Rubbermaid top and draw air out from the side.
This will possibly act like a humidifier with all the air having to pass over the water in the barrel. Maybe add an airstone to help even.

Got a little experiment happening also. Last grow was in 5g buckets and this is 3g pots but many repeat strains.
I was thorough cutting and weighing the last grow so after these dry I can compare my take.
First look at the PG and MC says they are very close, but the scale will tell the tale.
 
I always thought far red was just a part of what lights should already have. The pucks don't make sense to me and remind me of Kessil lights back in the early days of LED grow lights. Sure they were a usable spectrum but only covered maybe a 2" diameter.
I was reading specs the other day on some brand of light somebody here was using and the supplemental pucks just made no sense at all. It had me wondering if the people making those lights had ever grow a plant with them🤔

And yeah...my CLW timers are separated by 4 seconds. It's irritating and fucks with my OCD but I took some online therapy sessions, did some yoga, and cussed out a random little kid so now I can cope with that 4 second lapse 😋
 
I always thought far red was just a part of what lights should already have. The pucks don't make sense to me and remind me of Kessil lights back in the early days of LED grow lights. Sure they were a usable spectrum but only covered maybe a 2" diameter.
I was reading specs the other day on some brand of light somebody here was using and the supplemental pucks just made no sense at all. It had me wondering if the people making those lights had ever grow a plant with them🤔

And yeah...my CLW timers are separated by 4 seconds. It's irritating and fucks with my OCD but I took some online therapy sessions, did some yoga, and cussed out a random little kid so now I can cope with that 4 second lapse 😋
Back when they didn't have readily made pucks people were using reptile bulbs for UV. I remember a friend that had heard about how they really increased the potency of your smoke got really excited and was telling me about how great his smoke was going to be. He found out later that the bulb only affected the immediate area where the bulb was placed and not the whole plant.
 
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