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[MDK]

Looks great steam!

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum

Need to just get ya a bud builders banner dude. That would be actually a really cool idea to draw up something then people can buy or maybe make special ones that say picture of the month winner on them

 

[Observer]

So I also now have pistils on London Pound Cake.
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^^ Cherry Pie#1^^
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^^ Cherry Pie #2^^
I will try to be optimistic.
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^^ The herd with the tall one back right^^
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^^Tall Purple Crunch^^
Buds are doing well.
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^^ Largest Zamal Dreams^^
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Happy Wednesday~!

That leaf falling off there gave me the idea of timing the nutrition to just that, when the buds get exactly what they need, "sucking" the rest of the nutrients from the other leafs as the buds finish up, self trimming plant.

 

[Observer]

Looks great steam!

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum

I attempt similar on reddit sometimes

 

[Habosabin]

I have a question. What would happen if I just stopped watering and let the plant die in the pot and dry in the pot versus cutting and hanging? Would the slow death cause any stress reaction and more terps? Or does the fast chop preserve terps?

 

[steamroller]

That leaf falling off there gave me the idea of timing the nutrition to just that, when the buds get exactly what they need, "sucking" the rest of the nutrients from the other leafs as the buds finish up, self trimming plant.

I am the last one to say if the buds have had enough.
I am sure they could have been bigger, but not this time.
I don't have full control but yea I love easy clean.
I just cut 4 1/2 plants in the last 2 days and they are trimmed completely.
Maybe a quick sweep with a silicone BBQ brush wfter drying would be considered completely manicured.
I only had to cut like 2-4 sugar leaves per bud it seemed like~!

I have a question. What would happen if I just stopped watering and let the plant die in the pot and dry in the pot versus cutting and hanging? Would the slow death cause any stress reaction and more terps? Or does the fast chop preserve terps?

I cut them while still in the pot. Even just left 1/2 of The Grape Balls of Fire still in the pot so I can catch racing~!
My shop is cold now like 40f so I just bagged the buds in paper and am flipping them back and forth from the room to shop.
Not sure if one way or the other would do anything different for terps. I can't kill the lights in the room so I don't want them dying till I have time to trim them.
I do believe I have seen people just let the plant dry out still in pot. But not with lights still running.
Here is the trouble I have had, the sugar leaves are drying out but under the lights still they shrivel back into the bud instead of fall off.
Part of how and why I am saying some of these are done. Big PIA for the few that have shriveled leaves on/in them.
I would think preservation of terps is all on temp, RH and light.

 

[Observer]

I am the last one to say if the buds have had enough.
I am sure they could have been bigger, but not this time.
I don't have full control but yea I love easy clean.
I just cut 4 1/2 plants in the last 2 days and they are trimmed completely.
Maybe a quick sweep with a silicone BBQ brush wfter drying would be considered completely manicured.
I only had to cut like 2-4 sugar leaves per bud it seemed like~!

I cut them while still in the pot. Even just left 1/2 of The Grape Balls of Fire still in the pot so I can catch racing~!
My shop is cold now like 40f so I just bagged the buds in paper and am flipping them back and forth from the room to shop.
Not sure if one way or the other would do anything different for terps. I can't kill the lights in the room so I don't want them dying till I have time to trim them.
I do believe I have seen people just let the plant dry out still in pot. But not with lights still running.
Here is the trouble I have had, the sugar leaves are drying out but under the lights still they shrivel back into the bud instead of fall off.
Part of how and why I am saying some of these are done. Big PIA for the few that have shriveled leaves on/in them.

I would think preservation of terps is all on temp, RH and light.

Anything above 68f, volatile hydrocarbons *
(Terpenes) can start to "evaporate"

 

[Observer]

I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~!

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.

My god

Lol

 

[Stoneyluv]

I know I followed Moes info on the far red and he said they made little to no difference so they have not caught my interest.
I am interested in lights with adjustable spectrum though.
I don't think I will just go and replace my lights but they have had several grows and are not the best lights out there so I am preparing my mind to re invest properly.
Cut the 2 Mandarin cookies this morning. May get back out there for more before races.
Just seems some of these are drying out so I got to get them before it is too late.
My humidity in the room is under 40% even with the humidifier going at 55%. Probably from exhausting warm air and intaking fresh cool air?
May be able to seal the room again and use the AC instead of heater to help with RH.
I think the heater is off the last couple nights since a short power failure. It is digital and on an InkBird controller so always looks like it is off during the warm time.
Room has only gone down to 60f at night for a low so if winter does not completely return sealing it up may help with the RH.
All my procrastinating about sealing the room [running the duct work] has paid off again as I have come up with another twist that may help keep me from losing all the moisture that the loop pulls out.
Got the duct work running from exhaust fan across top of room and pitched properly.
I was going to let it have a small drain to drip into a Rubbermaid at a 90 and then continue to the intake fan.
Now I think I will run the duct right into the Rubbermaid top and draw air out from the side.
This will possibly act like a humidifier with all the air having to pass over the water in the barrel. Maybe add an airstone to help even.

Got a little experiment happening also. Last grow was in 5g buckets and this is 3g pots but many repeat strains.
I was thorough cutting and weighing the last grow so after these dry I can compare my take.
First look at the PG and MC says they are very close, but the scale will tell the tale.

choppin?!?!?!?! NICE!!!!! i looked at mine last night and couldn;'t decide so i left them alone.

if you only dropped to 60 you should be good, it got pretty chilly here last night.. the forecast shows some pretty warm days coming up so there's a chance you may not even get down to the 60 again. i'd roll the dice, fix it when it's nice out and convenient.

i like your idea with the drip loop going back into the rubbermaid.. thats recycling!!!

i way overdid my container size this round! my little plants wobble around in all that soil right now. i'm not tossing the used soil when i'm done, i'll refresh it and use it again. i plan to flower the mainliners in 3 gallon... your buds will be dry enough by time i have to decide so i'm very curious what you think.

 

[Rootsruler]

Need to just get ya a bud builders banner dude. That would be actually a really cool idea to draw up something then people can buy or maybe make special ones that say picture of the month winner on them

Cool BB stickers would be great. Something like the current BB logo that's on the site but with stoner art like the one in my avatar. Ed Roth/Rat Fink stickers with BB logo would be cool too!

 

[MDK]

Those pics remind me of this

 

[steamroller]

Chopped both Grape Balls of Fire and the one Candy Store today.
Both Fruit punches and the 1 Cherry Gar See Ya are ready but not failing like the others so they can wait till later this week or the weekend.
One XXX is ready and the other has the most time left of those that will be harvested before changing room around. They will both go before the weekend is over.
The 2 Zamal Dreams may be done but I may only take 1.
That would leave 2 Zamal Dreams and the Rum Runner for the tent which honestly should fit without issue.
Funny is the Rum Runner, Zamal Dreams and the Candy Store were 2 weeks younger than all the others.

Moved all the chopped to the 4x4 tent and spread out on mesh drying racks in the coolest part of the house.
65-70f 50%RH in the dark.

 

[Stoneyluv]

was just looking back and saw we hit 12/12 on 1-28... back then we were hoping for a harvest to be the 21st or week of the 28th at latest. so a little early on some and right on target for others!!

it was a great run man!! other than your exhaust loop you didn't have any problems at all this run right?

with having your tent to rely on to finish up in you could keep one for the budbuilders anniversary if ya wanted!!

 

[steamroller]

Yea the exhaust loop surprised me.
Not sure if I had problems, made problems or it's just how the cookie plants crumble~!
I have no complaints with this run. Looking back at the seedlings I am harvesting many would have chucked the CG that looks to be a beast.
Goes to show you got to give them time.


Really looking forward to getting the tent girls out and getting to see what I got to work with next.

 

[steamroller]

The room has been switched. Formerly known as Elvis has left the building~!
All plants cut down except 3.
Got 2 Zamal dreams and the Rum Runner and the three autos in the tent to peacefully finish out.
The one ZD is done I would say and may get cut at any weak moment in my days coming up~!
The others need a couple weeks at least.
Everyone from the tent now has a new home with space to grow and receive glorious light~!
Well we'll see if they want more light.
Glad I didn't mainline them all, although some of these tall trees are foreign to me also.
Pics tomorrow. Hopefully they will all settle in.

 

[steamroller]

Always seems like a letdown when the room goes from flower back to wherever we are. I see the forest for the trees though.

^^ 4 Zamal Dreams clones and 2 Sirius Black clones^^
I just cut them and stuck them in dirt with no other effort. Kept in veg tent with light at 20% and under the other plants canopy.
1 of each of these will go to G$. The one SB has 2 in it~!

^ SB clone^

^^ Max AC mainline with broken arm. ^^

^^ Fruit Punch and Purple Crunch mainlines^^ The PC got cut one node to low and is stalled for it I believe.

^^ #2 Purple Crunch mainline^^

^^ Sirius Black mainline^^

^^ The room^^ Here we grow again~!!

^^ Zamal Dreams that is done IMO^^ Will be cut when I am weak~!

^^ ZD ^^

^^ Rum Runner and Zamal Dreams^^

^^ IMO they both look the same?^^ One is Indica dominant and the other has strong sativa genes. Can't tell who is who. @MDK
They both need a couple weeks IMO? ZD on left and RR on right. Excited to try both of these new strains to me.

^^ ZD-----------------------------------------------------------------------RR^^



^^ a little incidental stress training. Not done on purpose but no big deal either. Zamal Dreams^^ Done 4-5 weeks ago.

 

[Rootsruler]

Co² tank?

 

[steamroller]

Co² tank?

I ran CO2 for last grow during veg then had to unseal the room. Ran it for maybe 3-4 weeks [ 2 @20lb bottles with room at 1200 lights on ].
It could be sealed up and probably will be before this grow is over. Right now I am enjoying the short time I need neither heat or AC. My time is running out but I may have 2-4 weeks left before AC. For now I can draw in cool enough air to stay under 85f.
Maybe when I seal it up I will try the gas during flower. I have 2 @ 20lb bottles and the InkBird controller with a cheap regulator that works great~!

 

[MDK]

They do look very similar little more leaf on the rum runner than the zamal looks like, but they got narrow leafs for sure.

I have heard a few folks recently I think it was archive in a YouTube smoke report.... talking about narrow leaf indica leaners when discussing indica vs sativa...just saying they'd find plants that had the most narrow of leafs sometimes and they'd just be crippling indica highs even though they'd assume them to be sativa due to the thin leaf. Wonder what high these will give if it'll be more sativa or indica?

I agree with them tho especially seeing some of these hybrid clone onlys while I browse thinking damn those are some thin leafs that strain glues me to the chair

 

[MDK]

I never heard them talk about fat leaf sativa leaners tho? Meant to say that...higggh

Thanks for the tag, waiting on the final judgement for sure

 

[steamroller]

They do look very similar little more leaf on the rum runner than the zamal looks like, but they got narrow leafs for sure.

I have heard a few folks recently I think it was archive in a YouTube smoke report.... talking about narrow leaf indica leaners when discussing indica vs sativa...just saying they'd find plants that had the most narrow of leafs sometimes and they'd just be crippling indica highs even though they'd assume them to be sativa due to the thin leaf. Wonder what high these will give if it'll be more sativa or indica?

I agree with them tho especially seeing some of these hybrid clone onlys while I browse thinking damn those are some thin leafs that strain glues me to the chair

 

[Bandit420]

They do look very similar little more leaf on the rum runner than the zamal looks like, but they got narrow leafs for sure.

I have heard a few folks recently I think it was archive in a YouTube smoke report.... talking about narrow leaf indica leaners when discussing indica vs sativa...just saying they'd find plants that had the most narrow of leafs sometimes and they'd just be crippling indica highs even though they'd assume them to be sativa due to the thin leaf. Wonder what high these will give if it'll be more sativa or indica?

I agree with them tho especially seeing some of these hybrid clone onlys while I browse thinking damn those are some thin leafs that strain glues me to the chair

Could be due to heat. When I was growing outdoors and temps hit up to 105 known indicas had leaves that looked sativa. The hotter it is the less broad leaf traits there are

 

[steamroller]

So I will probably start to up pot tomorrow. Hope to get to all of them but who knows?
Took a ride to Mass. to the hydro supply where I was buying my Ethos seeds as they were also listed as a Sohum carrier.
They told me they think Sohum has gone out of business~! They originally heard the restructuring rumor but have since dismissed it~!
So glad I grabbed the Quoddy Bay compost and will mix that in with my Stonington and the 3/4 of a bag of Sohum I have left.
Got something like 20 plus the clones.
I would like to start the fade but don't want the clones to even blink so will have to wait till tent is empty and the clones can go back in there under 18/6 before I can start the flip.

Could be due to heat. When I was growing outdoors and temps hit up to 105 known indicas had leaves that looked sativa. The hotter it is the less broad leaf traits there are

That makes sense.

 

[GoodShit97]

Hey which 8000 lights do you have, the fc or fce? No issues with them?
I was just given an fce4800 from my FIL and with my past Mars experience of 2 lights burning, I'm sketchy about it lol. It's only got 1 grow under it so should be in tip top shape still.

 

[steamroller]

I'll check and see as I don't remember.
I think the FC but believe me yet~!
I think the issue with Mars Hydro is the cords. I also think any light could have same issues although I am aware of MH history.
I think you have to make sure the cord is not kinked or wound to tight causing any sharp bends or kinks. Also make sure connections are tight regularly.
I saw a fire start on a work site from a huge extension cord that was wound up. It over heated itself and started a fire with no existing issues.
I would say you will be fine with the 4800.
The E just means it has a little more PAR and is suitable for use with CO2.
I have I think 9 of the TSL 2000 and one had a melted connection at the light. Again I think this was user error and why I am religious about my cords now.
I have 2 of the 8000s and no problems with them either.
Crank it up I bet you'll love the light~!

 

[GoodShit97]

I'll check and see as I don't remember.
I think the FC but believe me yet~!
I think the issue with Mars Hydro is the cords. I also think any light could have same issues although I am aware of MH history.
I think you have to make sure the cord is not kinked or wound to tight causing any sharp bends or kinks. Also make sure connections are tight regularly.
I saw a fire start on a work site from a huge extension cord that was wound up. It over heated itself and started a fire with no existing issues.
I would say you will be fine with the 4800.
The E just means it has a little more PAR and is suitable for use with CO2.
I have I think 9 of the TSL 2000 and one had a melted connection at the light. Again I think this was user error and why I am religious about my cords now.
I have 2 of the 8000s and no problems with them either.
Crank it up I bet you'll love the light~!

I definitely haven't seen the same number of issues with their bar lights as their board lights. The E also has bridgeLux diodes.
I'm definitely gonna like only having 2 light cords in my tent that's for sure. I'm over all these cords making my life hell lol.

I'll make sure I get that one set furthest from the outlet so I can stretch the cord out as straight as possible lol. Should have it all here and set up by the end of the month.
My FIL is coming down the 22nd so we can all go watch the new ghostbusters movie lol

 

[steamroller]

Cut #2 Zamal Dreams today. She is in drying tent now.
All others are in jars with hygrometers as of this afternoon.
When they say 62% I may weigh them.
Generally, I think I got less than last time, but not by much.
This last grow some of the plants went crazy earlier than usual. Sure that reduced overall growth.
I had to trim up a couple of the dried plants and got out the trim bin.
When done I used a silicone barbeque brush and got everything through the screen except a good size pile of red hairs~!
4 hits off the bong of those red hairs and I having trouble spelling right now~!
My I'm HIGH~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

do you still have the rum runner flowering? or did you axe her too?

do you have one of those bins like SSgrower uses with the mesh screen in the bottom?

 

[steamroller]

Rum Runner is doing better than #3 Zamal Dreams. Both still in flower tent.
The tent is getting warmer with the light at 70%. If I am going to keep the tent I need to connect an intake to fresh air.
Air from the room at 82 is not enough to keep the tent under 85. For now we will just see how bad they get a little longer.

Yea the bin with the kief screen~!
All but 3 plants were bucked right down in the beginning but 3 were still on branches.
I had to trim them.
Got some nice kief also but haven't even hit that yet.

I haven't up potted yet so need to get to that this weekend.
I'll flip the lights to 17 then also I think.
Going to mix the Stonington with the Quoddy Bay Compost.
Thinking 1/2 bag compost to full bag Stonington?
Going 3 gallon again just for ease.

Haven't had the Blumats going since the 3gs left and watering all these plants in 1g and solos even is a PIA~!
Got to get it back on track this weekend.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Rum Runner is doing better than #3 Zamal Dreams. Both still in flower tent.
The tent is getting warmer with the light at 70%. If I am going to keep the tent I need to connect an intake to fresh air.
Air from the room at 82 is not enough to keep the tent under 85. For now we will just see how bad they get a little longer.

Yea the bin with the kief screen~!
All but 3 plants were bucked right down in the beginning but 3 were still on branches.
I had to trim them.
Got some nice kief also but haven't even hit that yet.

I haven't up potted yet so need to get to that this weekend.
I'll flip the lights to 17 then also I think.
Going to mix the Stonington with the Quoddy Bay Compost.
Thinking 1/2 bag compost to full bag Stonington?
Going 3 gallon again just for ease.

Haven't had the Blumats going since the 3gs left and watering all these plants in 1g and solos even is a PIA~!
Got to get it back on track this weekend.

85* in your tent doesn't sound bad at all... i think my exhaust doesn't turn on till 87. i think you'll be fine in there.

when you said with the brush i assumed you brushed the hairs up with the kief... shit you didn't even get that far!!! haha NIIIIIICE!!!!

i wanna upcan too man. i have the morning off tomorrow so i might hit it first thing.. i'm also gonna try finishing in three gallon, it's the only way i can fit all my plants in so that's what i going with!! my first time though...

does the Quoddy bay come in the same size bag as the stonington? 1.5cuft i think?? i go and have gone really heavy with the COM lobster compost in the past and always had great results. i haven't been using it as much in the soil lately and use it in the teas now.. not sure theres a difference at all between the two.

i think my next garden investment is gonna be blumats. so intriguing!! i only used my new power wand twice now but man it's kinda tits so far!

 

[steamroller]

I think you would master the Blumats quick.
Cheapest I found was the 5 pack with everything needed for like $55.
My hydro supply store even carries them and all the little parts.
The carrot is the whole trick.

I think the compost is 1.5cuft.
I really think you and Bandit are on to it woth ocean products like the lobster compost and stuff.
Back in the 80's when I grew outdoors and had a large saltwater aquarium I had a protein skimmer that removed organic proteins from my tank.
The stuff was FIRE~!
I will be easing my way to the ocean also.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I think you would master the Blumats quick.
Cheapest I found was the 5 pack with everything needed for like $55.
My hydro supply store even carries them and all the little parts.
The carrot is the whole trick.

I think the compost is 1.5cuft.
I really think you and Bandit are on to it woth ocean products like the lobster compost and stuff.
Back in the 80's when I grew outdoors and had a large saltwater aquarium I had a protein skimmer that removed organic proteins from my tank.
The stuff was FIRE~!
I will be easing my way to the ocean also.

i would only need the carrots. i have plenty of tube and tees and other fittings from my veggie garden auto watering gear.

when i harvested my plants two of the eight were a bit underwatered and must have been drinking more than i thought. i think the blumats would help with that.

do you know if the bluemats go on sale for primeday or 4/20 or anything?


ocean based is the way to go with living soils and never seem to go wrong with a little surf and turf!!!! i'm even seeing a lot of bat guanos are now being replaced with seabird guano in organics.

 

[steamroller]

I don't know if they go on sale or not. I may just need to order 5 more again this time~!
You need their hose or a 3mil I think.
It is tiny and soft. That is how the carrot controls the flow and what is made for the carrot. Then you need a T off mainline to tiny 3mil line.
Everything else can be DIYed as long as you can match up the T size to main water line.

 

[Stoneyluv]

i'm gonna keep my eye on this kit and see if it goes on sale. doesn't seem like a terrible price for 12 though..

Amazon.com

 

[steamroller]

That's a good deal and has all that is needed beside the reservoir.

 

[Stoneyluv]

That's a good deal and has all that is needed beside the reservoir.

saw this one too.... no kit just carrots.. about $4 each..

Amazon.com

 

[steamroller]

Those aren't the same.They are not adjustable or something. Those are called classic.
Hit the Blumat home page so you see the different kinds they have. https://www.blumat.com/en
You want the tropf to have control.
They sell carrots that are longer to go deeper in the pot also, just more $$ though.

 

[Kopper1013]

Damn that ZD is gorgeous!!

To bad you’re staff that’d get you nominated for sure

 

[Observer]

85* in your tent doesn't sound bad at all... i think my exhaust doesn't turn on till 87. i think you'll be fine in there.

when you said with the brush i assumed you brushed the hairs up with the kief... shit you didn't even get that far!!! haha NIIIIIICE!!!!

i wanna upcan too man. i have the morning off tomorrow so i might hit it first thing.. i'm also gonna try finishing in three gallon, it's the only way i can fit all my plants in so that's what i going with!! my first time though...

does the Quoddy bay come in the same size bag as the stonington? 1.5cuft i think?? i go and have gone really heavy with the COM lobster compost in the past and always had great results. i haven't been using it as much in the soil lately and use it in the teas now.. not sure theres a difference at all between the two.

i think my next garden investment is gonna be blumats. so intriguing!! i only used my new power wand twice now but man it's kinda tits so far!

Usually keep it around 85 but 88 is ok, better with elevated co2, more watering though.

 

[steamroller]

85 is in flower tent that is dry/ RH even for flower.
They are not really liking it so late in the game.
For veg 90 wouldn't really phase me.
I would prefer these be under 80 since the RH is so low.

 

[Stoneyluv]

got you goodies today man!!! thanks so much, the stickers are badass!!!

i really like the look of the carts too man. i never tried an all ceramic one like that... i looks bigger than 1ml?

i'm gonna make up some new oil this weekend and try it out!!!