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ZombieRider said:
I read that its low toxicity but like neem oil, but it can cause some unpleasant side effects if you breathe it in. I know...cdc....but they maybe get some stuff right...sometimes lol

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/TSP/ToxFAQs/ToxFAQsDetails.aspx?faqid=786&toxid=153#:~:text=Pyrethrins and pyrethroids interfere with,convulsions and loss of consciousness.
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Oh im sure it can cause some kind of issue, but i never use it after i change to 12/12. Ive only ever sprayed once in flower and it was dr zymes, ill never use it again. The entire crop tasted like bubble soap....
 
Rootsruler said:
Christones basically BB on steroids......


There was a band from Austin that made some noise when I was in the L.A. scene. They were called Junkyard. Some of the members were friends with Stevie. They helped bring a guy named Charlie Sexton to L.A. to try and get him a record deal. He was a protege of Stevies.

My blues influences go back to the beginning. Sister Rosetta Tharp, Muddy Watters, Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, etc.
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Fricken notorious BIG has reincarnated into a blues singer/player lol. Nice
 
Bandit420 said:
I stay away from using any pesticides but since I mono crop and have a pause between each grow to clean, I clean with orange oil. That stuff kills and repels bugs so they tend to not want to enter my room.

Last year I got spider mites I suspect thru the unfiltered fresh air intake during the Summer. It wasn't too bad of an infestation but I was also trying out using UV when it happened and noticed the mites wanted nothing to do with the plants under UV.
So while my opinion of UV increasing potency still wavers, I'd use it to kill an infestation or at least slow it to a crawl.

Here's some other fun fact info regarding mites and tanglefoot I've stumbled on...
Mites will only inhabit a living plant. When you chop the plant or it dies the mites sound the alarm and evacuate the plant. They will migrate to the upper most part of the plant, huddle up, and prepare for flight to the next living plant.

Growers can take total advantage and take them out using their natural instincts.

With the plant hanging upside down they will all move to the stalk. If you coat the stalk with tanglefoot, they will crawl into it and commit suicide.

Same with removing infested plant material. If you put all the mite infested leaves in a bucket and smear the inside rim of the bucket with tangelfoot, all the mites will crawl up to the rim of the bucket to escape but will commit suicide in the tanglefoot trying to get to the top edge of the rim.
It's after the fact but is about as good of way as any to prevent the next crop from being infested without using pesticides
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Damn, several awesome tips there thanks a ton. Im paranoid about mites so should I ever suspect any I will try a combo of UV light and "using my brain" and tricking them into offing themselves.

Im planning on moving my grow into the garage after this run, so would you recommend I clean all the surfaces of the garage with orange oil and let it sit for a few weeks to make sure no mites are there? Also, do mites hang around if there is no plant material to eat?

I have some Nukem spray that I was gonna use to clean the garage with. I was thinking maybe use the nukem on all surfaces, let it dry couple days, then hit it with the orange oil. I take it the plants dont mind the orange oil?
Hells yeah bro thanks again for the advice.
 
GoodShit97 said:
I believed it at first, it didnt bother the plants at all, but the bud tasted just like the spray smells. And it smells like straight bubble soap lmao.
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Yeah I used some DrZymes to get rid of some fungus gnats. Worked really well but it does smell like straight up bubble soap, not a flavor I wanna smoke haha. Maybe you could do a bud-wash post harvest to get rid of sprays, if you use them.
 
ZombieRider said:
Yeah I used some DrZymes to get rid of some fungus gnats. Worked really well but it does smell like straight up bubble soap, not a flavor I wanna smoke haha. Maybe you could do a bud-wash post harvest to get rid of sprays, if you use them.
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It was a last ditch effort to finish a crop that caught mildew 2 weeks from finish, i smoked probably 4 or 5 grams and threw the rest of it in my hash bag.. 6 plants, at 4 to 5 ozs a plant.

Now if i get mildew or bugs in flower, i wouldnt do anything but get out the clippers and trash bags.
It sucks, but its easier and quicker to just start over than try to fight it til the end.

I need to look into budwashing, ive got some plants outside again this year and one is already set to be massive, and id like to smoke my outdoor this year if its good, instead of selling/gifting it all.
 
GoodShit97 said:
It was a last ditch effort to finish a crop that caught mildew 2 weeks from finish, i smoked probably 4 or 5 grams and threw the rest of it in my hash bag.. 6 plants, at 4 to 5 ozs a plant.

Now if i get mildew or bugs in flower, i wouldnt do anything but get out the clippers and trash bags.
It sucks, but its easier and quicker to just start over than try to fight it til the end.

I need to look into budwashing, ive got some plants outside again this year and one is already set to be massive, and id like to smoke my outdoor this year if its good, instead of selling/gifting it all.
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I think @TSD washes her bud after harvesting? I might be mistaken though cuz I remember her mentioning it on the farm a while back. Sounds crazy that you'd wash bud in water but evidently some people swear by it.
What you growing outdoors this year? I dont have the cojones to plant outdoors yet, not in this Appalachian jungle we live next to lol.
 
ZombieRider said:
I think @TSD washes her bud after harvesting? I might be mistaken though cuz I remember her mentioning it on the farm a while back. Sounds crazy that you'd wash bud in water but evidently some people swear by it.
What you growing outdoors this year? I dont have the cojones to plant outdoors yet, not in this Appalachian jungle we live next to lol.
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Ive got a GSC from Nirvana i started back in January, shes a mammoth!20230529_191839.jpg20230529_192110.jpg

And then i have a Green Crack from ILGM, and a seed i found in some weed called 'Jawbreaker' its supposedly a sativa, but it looked to have indica characteristics so i put it outside lol. I dont have pictures of those, the GC is sick, think PH is too high or its still recovering from frost damage but im not sure, so im just letting it ride. And i just put the jawbreaker out a couple days ago.

I had a really nice LSD plant out there too but my neighbor had all his plants die one night so i gave it to him, along with 4 clones i had planned to throw away cause i didnt want him to not grow this year lol.
 
ZombieRider said:
I think @TSD washes her bud after harvesting? I might be mistaken though cuz I remember her mentioning it on the farm a while back. Sounds crazy that you'd wash bud in water but evidently some people swear by it.
What you growing outdoors this year? I dont have the cojones to plant outdoors yet, not in this Appalachian jungle we live next to lol.
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everyone growing outdoors should wash their buds. Disgusting when you've seen what comes off. Just the dust alone!

we wash vegetables but don't wash weed? strange :p
 
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ZombieRider said:
Damn, several awesome tips there thanks a ton. Im paranoid about mites so should I ever suspect any I will try a combo of UV light and "using my brain" and tricking them into offing themselves.

Im planning on moving my grow into the garage after this run, so would you recommend I clean all the surfaces of the garage with orange oil and let it sit for a few weeks to make sure no mites are there? Also, do mites hang around if there is no plant material to eat?

I have some Nukem spray that I was gonna use to clean the garage with. I was thinking maybe use the nukem on all surfaces, let it dry couple days, then hit it with the orange oil. I take it the plants dont mind the orange oil?
Hells yeah bro thanks again for the advice.
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Orange oil can burn up a plant pretty bad if the concentration is too high so I'd keep it off the leaves.
1oz orange oil to 30oz of water would make for a good spray to use on a soil surface say if you have gnats or springtails.
I also use it to kill fire ants but that's another story.

I like to use a pump sprayer which holds about 2 gallons of water and mix in 4oz of orange oil or same ratio in a small spray bottle and just go around spraying everything like spraying a window with windex.
In some areas like the floor, I let it dry. But for something like my reflective walls I spray them and wipe down so there's no residue. And I'll use it to clean fan blades and any other place that might get dusty.
In a garage, yeah I'd probably fumigate too then clean.

Spider mites are a peculiar bug. Outside they have so many predators they're kept in check fairly well by other bugs that eat them but indoors they become an apex pest with no natural predator.
They only want live plants. They won't nest up someplace waiting for a plant to come to them and they want nothing to do with drying plant material.
They'll go find the next plant within hours of the host plant's death. Indoors they simply crawl to the next plant, feast, and lay more eggs on the underside of leaves.
When they go mobile they gather in a cluster of webbing like a spider web, get to a high point, let go of the plant, and use wind to blow them to the next living plant. When you see the webbing, that means they're close to killing the plant and getting ready to leave it. Webs also indicates a severe infestation.

So after a grow when plants are dead and there's no wind or anyplace to go, they die within days if not hours. They need to constantly be sucking on plants to stay hydrated and well fed. Take that away and lock them in a room they subside and die off like all living things would do.
I'm not sure about eggs and if they can go dormant then pop open later but that's just another reason to keep things clean and dust often. Eggs will always be on leaves but in the mayhem of chopping and moving plants around I'm sure some can fall off and end up in the environment. But sya they hatch in a dust pile they'd die fairly quick not having any plants to suck on
Every pause in the grow, every cleaning, is going to help break their cycle and kill them off
 
ZombieRider said:
haha I was trying to link ATL talk and plant pests. Like out here in VA we got fk tons of ticks and I hear the local Hemp industry has introduced a healthy population of russet mites.
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ok so for me i only been growing for 3 years and i have only had to deal with fungus gnats thats inside outside it like what it would be where u are leaf hopper grasshoppers etc , i i tried growing weed 1 time outside 3 years ago all my plants got white mildew and u could see where something would chew on the leaves
 
budsofmadison said:
Now I haven't been to this place in 30 years (lived in Jonesboro and worked at the 3rd Home Depot store) but it was severe and awesome BBQ -- smoke flavor city....
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i gave a couple plants to a friend a few weeks ago and he planted them outside and tonight i was there and we were looking at them and i noticed the one had a couple dozen young lantern flies marching up and down the main stalk almost like they were patrolling. i didn't notice any destruction or anything bad.

does anyone know if lantern flies hurt or help ganja plants?
 
budsofmadison said:
ok so for me i only been growing for 3 years and i have only had to deal with fungus gnats thats inside outside it like what it would be where u are leaf hopper grasshoppers etc , i i tried growing weed 1 time outside 3 years ago all my plants got white mildew and u could see where something would chew on the leaves
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Yeah man outdoor growing is a whole different world. Not growing any ganja outdoors yet (especially not here in VA cuz its humid af), but i do have a veggie garden and the pests are something else. Got some squash bugs on my zuchinni and they are a fkn menace. Also had one of my eggplants get rocked by something eating it. Def gonna have to figure out some beneficials to out in my garden next season.
That being said, i an gonna pop some Dragonsflame Genetics seeds and all his strains I think are mold and mildew resistant. So if i pkant outside...will be dragsonsflame!
 
ZombieRider said:
Yeah man outdoor growing is a whole different world. Not growing any ganja outdoors yet (especially not here in VA cuz its humid af), but i do have a veggie garden and the pests are something else. Got some squash bugs on my zuchinni and they are a fkn menace. Also had one of my eggplants get rocked by something eating it. Def gonna have to figure out some beneficials to out in my garden next season.
That being said, i an gonna pop some Dragonsflame Genetics seeds and all his strains I think are mold and mildew resistant. So if i pkant outside...will be dragsonsflame!
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100% agree it is super difficult to grow outdoors in high humidity and here the bugs are many and wicked. Outside in a proper netted setting with tons of ventilation, that might work. Autoflowers in winter can work here, but you would have to use pesticides and mega traps. This is the time of grow where every morning dawns new sites activating and smells cascading, sticky looking at icky. Now that I've ranted about things I sure feel better my growmie Zombie.
 
ZombieRider said:
Yeah man outdoor growing is a whole different world. Not growing any ganja outdoors yet (especially not here in VA cuz its humid af), but i do have a veggie garden and the pests are something else. Got some squash bugs on my zuchinni and they are a fkn menace. Also had one of my eggplants get rocked by something eating it. Def gonna have to figure out some beneficials to out in my garden next season.
That being said, i a gonna pop some Dragonsflame Genetics seeds and all his strains I think are mold and mildew resistant. So if i pkant outside...will be dragsonsflame!
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I had some success with Dfg beans in Florida outside ! So they are tough !
 
If you have fungus gnats use this. One or two treatments to the soil and you’ll never have gnats again. It’s OMRI listed organic, Bacillus bacteria that kills fungus. It’s freakin awesome?

https://generalhydroponics.com/products/defguard/

I am now dealing with Hemp Russet Mites which are like The clap for plants. I’ll take any info on how to I’ll them.
 
Stoneyluv said:
i gave a couple plants to a friend a few weeks ago and he planted them outside and tonight i was there and we were looking at them and i noticed the one had a couple dozen young lantern flies marching up and down the main stalk almost like they were patrolling. i didn't notice any destruction or anything bad.

does anyone know if lantern flies hurt or help ganja plants?
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Found this post when searching lantern flies

My buddy just called to tell me lantern flies are eating his outdoor plants bad....

How did yours fare? My buddy wishes he would have sprayed while they were in veg.
I wish I had some advice for him but I don't, did you use anything on them?
 
ZombieRider said:
Yeah man outdoor growing is a whole different world. Not growing any ganja outdoors yet (especially not here in VA cuz its humid af), but i do have a veggie garden and the pests are something else. Got some squash bugs on my zuchinni and they are a fkn menace. Also had one of my eggplants get rocked by something eating it. Def gonna have to figure out some beneficials to out in my garden next season.
That being said, i an gonna pop some Dragonsflame Genetics seeds and all his strains I think are mold and mildew resistant. So if i pkant outside...will be dragsonsflame!
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fuck man. i've got a serious pest issue in the form of deer. like hell if i'm putting any cannabis outdoors here with those assholes roaming around. gotta figure out how to keep em out, soon. plan is to turn a couple acres into farm land, and i won't have shit to sell if the deer eat all my income lol
 
ninjadip said:
Found this post when searching lantern flies

My buddy just called to tell me lantern flies are eating his outdoor plants bad....

How did yours fare? My buddy wishes he would have sprayed while they were in veg.
I wish I had some advice for him but I don't, did you use anything on them?
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that plant died for my buddy... i was there this past saturday and the one that had the flies was dead, not sure if that's what did it or not but the two plants were only 15 or 20 feet apart and one had flies and the other didn't. the one without flies is still alive and budding.

no, he didn't use anything on them or try to stop them. he's a mechanic not a gardener.. :LOL: but i'm not really sure what happened with the plant.

i'd try to put lantern fly traps around the plants maybe. these seem to be marching or patrolling the main stem, they weren't out on the branches or leaves so maybe a sticky based trap at the base of the stem. i know lantern fly's fly but they like to crawl and hop more from what i seen.
 
tobh said:
fuck man. i've got a serious pest issue in the form of deer. like hell if i'm putting any cannabis outdoors here with those assholes roaming around. gotta figure out how to keep em out, soon. plan is to turn a couple acres into farm land, and i won't have shit to sell if the deer eat all my income lol
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Coyote urine 👊🏼
 
tobh said:
fuck man. i've got a serious pest issue in the form of deer. like hell if i'm putting any cannabis outdoors here with those assholes roaming around. gotta figure out how to keep em out, soon. plan is to turn a couple acres into farm land, and i won't have shit to sell if the deer eat all my income lol
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give them something better to eat than your plants... you only have to keep them away while your plants are young. once they get a couple feet tall they shouldn't bother with them much. unless there's nothing else around. that where corn feeders come in handy!!!
 
Stoneyluv said:
give them something better to eat than your plants... you only have to keep them away while your plants are young. once they get a couple feet tall they shouldn't bother with them much. unless there's nothing else around. that where corn feeders come in handy!!!
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damn, wish I'd known that when we moved to this spot in june. they ate all of my herb sprouts, bean sprouts, sunflowers... maybe i'll grow them some stuff along their game trails that they love, and keep the human goodies in more open areas.

i plan on growing some hops too (figuring a half acre, or so -- perimeter plant for summer privacy + beer) and I was reading they'll eat those if nothing else is left. I've noticed they don't touch the blackberry brambles at all, but love roses, which I also want to grow, but won't if the assholes are just gonna eat my blooms. i treat my roses better than my cannabis lol
 
tobh said:
damn, wish I'd known that when we moved to this spot in june. they ate all of my herb sprouts, bean sprouts, sunflowers... maybe i'll grow them some stuff along their game trails that they love, and keep the human goodies in more open areas.

i plan on growing some hops too (figuring a half acre, or so -- perimeter plant for summer privacy + beer) and I was reading they'll eat those if nothing else is left. I've noticed they don't touch the blackberry brambles at all, but love roses, which I also want to grow, but won't if the assholes are just gonna eat my blooms. i treat my roses better than my cannabis lol
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oh man, they tear my roses up more than anything else! especially in the winter. if you get snow where you're at you'll see their tracks come from a half mile away right for the rose bushes!! sometimes on the early snows the roses are the only green thing still exposed.

but the deer haven't bothered my ganja in many years now... my peach trees, that's a different story... peach stealing bastards!!! hahaha
 
Stoneyluv said:
oh man, they tear my roses up more than anything else! especially in the winter. if you get snow where you're at you'll see their tracks come from a half mile away right for the rose bushes!! sometimes on the early snows the roses are the only green thing still exposed.

but the deer haven't bothered my ganja in many years now... my peach trees, that's a different story... peach stealing bastards!!! hahaha
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so they're as much a nuisance in your area as they are in mine!! everywhere around here sells some kind of deer deterrent, and almost everyone agrees, none of it works. the only real deterrent is like 12' fences but aside from cost county code won't allow fences so high to be built.

not sure what kind of snow we get here yet, moved up here in June, but with where we're located I fully anticipate something more significant than what we would get down around Portland. Down there we averaged one bad storm a year, up here I think we're likely to see not really as bad of a storm but once snow comes down, it will stay.

just wish the bear that are around here would do their damn jobs and keep the deer in check. instead they seem to behave more like big, timid dogs.
 
Stoneyluv said:
oh man, they tear my roses up more than anything else! especially in the winter. if you get snow where you're at you'll see their tracks come from a half mile away right for the rose bushes!! sometimes on the early snows the roses are the only green thing still exposed.

but the deer haven't bothered my ganja in many years now... my peach trees, that's a different story... peach stealing bastards!!! hahaha
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Why the roses?
 
tobh said:
so they're as much a nuisance in your area as they are in mine!! everywhere around here sells some kind of deer deterrent, and almost everyone agrees, none of it works. the only real deterrent is like 12' fences but aside from cost county code won't allow fences so high to be built.

not sure what kind of snow we get here yet, moved up here in June, but with where we're located I fully anticipate something more significant than what we would get down around Portland. Down there we averaged one bad storm a year, up here I think we're likely to see not really as bad of a storm but once snow comes down, it will stay.

just wish the bear that are around here would do their damn jobs and keep the deer in check. instead they seem to behave more like big, timid dogs.
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it sounds like you're going to get along with nature just fine!!!

if it's one thing i learned being a country boy is wild animals act pretty much the same as tame animals in the sense that it's way easier to coax them with food than chase them away. I've tried it all too.. hair, urine, plants they hate, lights, scarecrows... you name it.. the best way is to watch what they like to eat and grow that on the edges and trails you want them on. the deer around here love grazing on clover so i grew clover on wide trails that open up to my neighbors big field of clover... easy to deal with when they're not my problem anymore!! hehe

we have bear too but their biggest threat here are humans, we keep tearing the forests down for buildings and they got nowhere to go so populations can get dense quick in wooded areas.

i feed em and love em... they make me feel good and happy when i watch them in the yard everyday so i embrace it and just shake my head when they eat all my day lilies in one night!!!
 
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