Stoney's Luv Shack

[moe.red]

3D Racer?

Make it a contest?

I made a temp title while we figure this out. And I am not above bribery here.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Stoney we need to give you a proper title. What's it gonna be?

i agree man, i've wanted a good title for a while now, you guys are clever with yours!

i'll get with ya soon..

3D Racer?

Make it a contest?

wow that doesn't sound like a contest i can win!!! hahahaha

I made a temp title while we figure this out. And I am not above bribery here.

hahaha you're the fuckin best Moe!!!!!! thats hilarious!!!

this is probably gonna cost me all my new rep points!!!!!! hahaha

 

[moe.red]

this is probably gonna cost me all my new rep points!!!!!! hahaha

Happy you understand how the game is played. It saves us both time.

 

[Bandit420]

the beaver grows were so much fun man!! and the jokes!!!! you had beaver jokes bro!!!! good times!! i really like the zingers as well... that buzz would just grab a hold of ya!!!
the blood orange was bloody good too!!!!

good ol days brother!!!!

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so wait, you get your orders shipped from greenpoint one at a time? i ordered all those seeds on different orders throughout the weekend, i thnk i started on friday and was still making orders on sunday night. monday comes around and they put them all in one package and sent them, but they were all different order numbers.

yesterday i got a pack of the animal cookies s1 before they sold out. i wasn't even huntin... i just loaded the page out of nowhere and it was sitting there at $21 so i was like sure!!

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watching qualifying now, i'm so excited for tomorrow man!! i don't know if i'll be able to even sleep tonight.

did you see the 45 car?? death star!!!!!

looks like the 24 gets the #1 stall... damn!! larson gets the second pick..



we're not addicted, we're passionate!!!!

Big day today my friend!!!
It's the calm before the storm right now.
Bitter sweet though because after today it's all football and watching all the Nascar's Greatest Races I have on DVR and whatever is on Flo in regards to late model and outlaws.

Texas is in the thick of it in college playoff talks so it's nice to have something to play for this year heading into the end of the regular season. Won an OT thriller yesterday to keep hope alive. That will keep me going then before you know it February is here and we do it all over again!

I saw that 45 and was like WTF is that? I think it's a Tie Fighter! Then I look again and found myself on 23/XI's site to see WTH all this is about.
Bubba has a star wars scheme too and I saw a pic of him in his fire suit made to look like an X wing fighter pilot! Matching helmet too just like Lukes!




So I guess Bubba is rebel and Tyler is Empire. I only saw the back of Tyler's fire suit and it looks like he's a tie fighter pilot. I guess they saved the best paint schemes for last! I'll be on diecast alert for those two rides for sure even though one is Bubba.

Yeah GPS has always sent my seeds days apart from each other but I think it's mostly because I often forget to add my order number to my payment. When I do, they ship the next day but when I forget then they ship in 2-5 days.

Good luck today Buddy! I think it's between the 5 and 12 but 24 also looks strong! Can't decide if I'll stream it on Peacock or watch on NBC but I do know I'm craving fajitas for the race!!!
I think we'll be in for a helluva race! Trucks were nuts Friday night and NXS was pretty good. I gotta feeling the 4 might win today then it'll be between 5 and 12 for the championship. We'll see here in a few hours!!!

 

[Zen_seeker]

I’m not into watching racing much. Liked doing it but just can’t stay still and watch.

But reading how you guys have passion and do the models and follow the stats…kind of gets me into it a bit. I’ll never be a fan but I’ve been to a half dozen Toronto Indy races. Stopped going when first Steam whistle and then another worse beer hosted. First time I’ve walked away from a beer I paid for after one sip. But I digress.

Just cool to read these once in a while and get into it a bit. Once in a while it even makes my news and I get your highlights on it too.

 

[Bandit420]

I’m not into watching racing much. Liked doing it but just can’t stay still and watch.

But reading how you guys have passion and do the models and follow the stats…kind of gets me into it a bit. I’ll never be a fan but I’ve been to a half dozen Toronto Indy races. Stopped going when first Steam whistle and then another worse beer hosted. First time I’ve walked away from a beer I paid for after one sip. But I digress.

Just cool to read these once in a while and get into it a bit. Once in a while it even makes my news and I get your highlights on it too.

2 years ago I bought tix to a NASCAR race at Circuit of the Americas. We have this thing about trying new things and like stuff like monster trucks so figured why not. Never been to one before and what I knew on TV was kinda boring and not my thing but it was a close to where I live so why not check it out.
As the race grew closer I almost backed out and sold my tix thinking I probably wouldn't like it. But I knew Stoney was a huge fan so there must be something to it so why not?
When the sounds and smells hit me it was such a rush. A true high without drugs. I was amazed and hooked after that and go to every race I can now. I plan my vacations around racing now too.
I've been mostly into football all my life but racing gave me something else I felt I'd been missing my whole life. It made me feel like a kid again while football comes with a ton of stress especially with it being my occupation.
Racing just changed me and made me a much happier person somehow. What I thought was boring before became insane fun. The craziness of everything and how they're pros but still fuck up like amateurs every weekend is nuts. And while I have my favorite drivers and teams who rarely if ever win, I still get so much enjoyment every week and never feel bad about any of the results. It's just too much fun to be upset after a race.
The other side to it is my wife got into it just as much as I have and that makes it even more special.
So I think the key is go to a race open minded with friends and family and let it take hold. It really is an amazing thing to be into. The fans at these races are some of the most kind and cool people of all ages I've encountered at any sporting event. It's all party and having a great time and nobody leaves a race unhappy

 

[Zen_seeker]

Sharing a good hobby with the wife would be nice.

Of course she wanted me to teach her gardening. Now I’m the gardener.

 

[steamroller]

GO # 5 ~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

Big day today my friend!!!
It's the calm before the storm right now.
Bitter sweet though because after today it's all football and watching all the Nascar's Greatest Races I have on DVR and whatever is on Flo in regards to late model and outlaws.

Texas is in the thick of it in college playoff talks so it's nice to have something to play for this year heading into the end of the regular season. Won an OT thriller yesterday to keep hope alive. That will keep me going then before you know it February is here and we do it all over again!

I saw that 45 and was like WTF is that? I think it's a Tie Fighter! Then I look again and found myself on 23/XI's site to see WTH all this is about.
Bubba has a star wars scheme too and I saw a pic of him in his fire suit made to look like an X wing fighter pilot! Matching helmet too just like Lukes!

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So I guess Bubba is rebel and Tyler is Empire. I only saw the back of Tyler's fire suit and it looks like he's a tie fighter pilot. I guess they saved the best paint schemes for last! I'll be on diecast alert for those two rides for sure even though one is Bubba.

Yeah GPS has always sent my seeds days apart from each other but I think it's mostly because I often forget to add my order number to my payment. When I do, they ship the next day but when I forget then they ship in 2-5 days.

Good luck today Buddy! I think it's between the 5 and 12 but 24 also looks strong! Can't decide if I'll stream it on Peacock or watch on NBC but I do know I'm craving fajitas for the race!!!
I think we'll be in for a helluva race! Trucks were nuts Friday night and NXS was pretty good. I gotta feeling the 4 might win today then it'll be between 5 and 12 for the championship. We'll see here in a few hours!!!

woooooooo race day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

man i can't believe how quick the morning went by, it's almost time for the green flag!!!!!!!

figures bubba would have the coolest helmet out there!! fucker! i hope he gets helmet hair!!!

good luck to all the teams today!!!

GO 5!!!!!!!!

I’m not into watching racing much. Liked doing it but just can’t stay still and watch.

But reading how you guys have passion and do the models and follow the stats…kind of gets me into it a bit. I’ll never be a fan but I’ve been to a half dozen Toronto Indy races. Stopped going when first Steam whistle and then another worse beer hosted. First time I’ve walked away from a beer I paid for after one sip. But I digress.

Just cool to read these once in a while and get into it a bit. Once in a while it even makes my news and I get your highlights on it too.

you should go to a top fuel drag race man, if the smells, sights , and sounds don't get injected into your blood you might wanna check your pulse!!!

my mom has a baby picture of me at my first drag race.. it was in my blood early!!!

GO # 5 ~!

hells yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! c'mon 5 team!!!!!!!!!!

ooooh special introductions!!!

 

[Anthem275]

figures bubba would have the coolest helmet out there!! fucker! i hope he gets helmet hair!!!

good luck to all the teams today!!!

He does not get helmet hair!

 

[Stoneyluv]

He does not get helmet hair!

yeah i wasn't thinkin on that one!!! hahaha

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first stage in the books... 5 car is a little loose... no grip.. no grip in no grip out... center feels good but feels like ice skates out there!!

crew chief is lowering air pressure to help with the grip and no track bar changes at all so hoping it tightens itself up with more grip and speed.

gained a spot on pit road and starting the second stage in 4th... crew chief had some scratching in the radio so he just put the big antenna on!!

go 5!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

second stage caution... 5 is too tight now and middle was not good. had great grip though. entry is spot on, just got to get the middle great. gonna free it up with mechanical and up the tire pressure just a tad... pitting for four!!

20 team is done for the day... sucks!

gained a spot on pit road.. starting the last stage in sixth place. crew chief feels he made some good changes and just confirming his brakes felt fine. after the 2 had a rotor explode he wanted to keep an eye on it. kyle ran the whole 2nd stage with no brake fans on, cliff was trying to keep heat in the front tires to help him turn. but they have a bigger air opening than the 20 so no overheating at all. just precautions!!!

69 laps to go in stage two!!!

go 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anthem275]

second stage caution... 5 is too tight now and middle was not good. had great grip though. entry is spot on, just got to get the middle great. gonna free it up with mechanical and up the tire pressure just a tad... pitting for four!!

20 team is done for the day... sucks!

gained a spot on pit road.. starting the last stage in sixth place. crew chief feels he made some good changes and just confirming his brakes felt fine. after the 2 had a rotor explode he wanted to keep an eye on it. kyle ran the whole 2nd stage with no brake fans on, cliff was trying to keep heat in the front tires to help him turn. but they have a bigger air opening than the 20 so no overheating at all. just precautions!!!

69 laps to go in stage two!!!

go 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stoney I think they got the car set up for late in the race. Just finished 1st green and white. But I think the track changes pretty hard towards the end of the race. Phoenix in the afternoon is going to cool off fast once the sun. starts to fall.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Stoney I think they got the car set up for late in the race. Just finished 1st green and white. But I think the track changes pretty hard towards the end of the race. Phoenix in the afternoon is going to cool off fast once the sun. starts to fall.

yeah the tracks been changing since the start almost... hope it cools off quick, times running out!!

so end of stage two now.. team gained three spots on pit road, 4th place right now to start the final stage...

C'mon kyle larson!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anthem275]

Also I think Larson is just trying to not use his car up until the last 50 to 60 laps

 

[Stoneyluv]

Also I think Larson is just trying to not use his car up until the last 50 to 60 laps

time to use it all up now!!!!!!!!

30 some to go... restart and larson is in fourth!!!! gotta stay ahead of the 24 and12!!!!!

go kyle larson!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get some!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

whont whont whont.... well no championship for the 5 team.. way to go ryan blanely he had the speed!! pretty cool though back when i became a fan of kyle larson is was between him and ryan blaney to root for. i chose the 5 of coarse!!

good season!!!

looks like leftover sadness soup for me... at least it has beans in it!!!

that;s it till next year!! i need to find a new winter sport to get into. i'm a raiders fan so football is out, and i can't switch teams they're inked in forever!

maybe snowmobile racing or something!!

 

[Anthem275]

whont whont whont.... well no championship for the 5 team.. way to go ryan blanely he had the speed!! pretty cool though back when i became a fan of kyle larson is was between him and ryan blaney to root for. i chose the 5 of coarse!!

good season!!!

looks like leftover sadness soup for me... at least it has beans in it!!!

that;s it till next year!! i need to find a new winter sport to get into. i'm a raiders fan so football is out, and i can't switch teams they're inked in forever!

maybe snowmobile racing or something!!

Larson tried his best IMO. Blaney Just had a better car. Maybe more caution laps would have changed the out come with track conditions changing more but it is what it is.
I got some leftover Mopu Tofu as well!!!!

 

[Zen_seeker]

Guess what came up on the TV this afternoon? Left it on while working and caught a bit. Saw #5 go from 5th to 3rd at the end. Then a few smokies.



Had no idea it was end of season. Glad I caught some.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Larson tried his best IMO. Blaney Just had a better car. Maybe more caution laps would have changed the out come with track conditions changing more but it is what it is.
I got some leftover Mopu Tofu as well!!!!

yeah he did... some other drivers cut him some really nice breaks too. he owes the cheez it driver an omaha steak membership!! and denny hamlin really cut him some slack near the end.

on to next season!!

Guess what came up on the TV this afternoon? Left it on while working and caught a bit. Saw #5 go from 5th to 3rd at the end. Then a few smokies.

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Had no idea it was end of season. Glad I caught some.

yep, that happened!!! the end.

sad till February!!

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4.0 is the new black!!!... so black it looks fake!!

 

[steamroller]

Also I think Larson is just trying to not use his car up until the last 50 to 60 laps

I too thought he was just being responsible and not racing on the edge for the whole show.

Still a good race.

 

[SSgrower]

My 1st. Hot Rod was a 67 Camaro, then as a mid-life crisis I bought several Cyclone 3.7 v6 mustang's until 2016 when I got a GT w/3.55:1 rear gear. I dropped it on progressive lowering springs, locked out the lower rear independent suspension, wider tires with lightweight custom rims, intake custom. I enjoy road racing like IMSA racing as I drive the "Hill Country" in upper Tejas. SSgrower I live near the coast

 

[Bandit420]

whont whont whont.... well no championship for the 5 team.. way to go ryan blanely he had the speed!! pretty cool though back when i became a fan of kyle larson is was between him and ryan blaney to root for. i chose the 5 of coarse!!

good season!!!

looks like leftover sadness soup for me... at least it has beans in it!!!

that;s it till next year!! i need to find a new winter sport to get into. i'm a raiders fan so football is out, and i can't switch teams they're inked in forever!

maybe snowmobile racing or something!!

Kinda had a feeling it would play out like that. Blaney has just been out Larsoning Larson for about a month and the Fords turned it on late so it just had that perfect storm vibe to it.
I thought Blaney might give it all away fucking with that hornets nest of a 1 car but he settled down. Nobody was catching that car on the long runs and it was kinda funny to see Truex get to his bumper then kinda say, yeah, no I aint fucking with that. Come get you some 12 and backed off it.
Crazy scene after the race though. Everybody was gettin' hammered! Like every team all I saw was suds flowing!

I'm so looking forward to next year! Lots of new faces will be out there probably gonna make a few old timers pissed off every week. Brisky gets the slate wiped clean and maybe makes another run at it like '22. And the Ponies will have an all new look!

 

[smoke]

Trying to follow along but what's with the one and quarter sec spread between #4 and #5?

 

[Anthem275]

Trying to follow along but what's with the one and quarter sec spread between #4 and #5?View attachment 28746

Smoke see how the guy in second Blaney is 1.320 off the leader. The 1.25 difference between 4 and 5 is how far they are away from the leader.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I too thought he was just being responsible and not racing on the edge for the whole show.

Still a good race.

yeah it was a good race, a good season too... to just come up short and finish second is nothing to hand their hats about!!

My 1st. Hot Rod was a 67 Camaro, then as a mid-life crisis I bought several Cyclone 3.7 v6 mustang's until 2016 when I got a GT w/3.55:1 rear gear. I dropped it on progressive lowering springs, locked out the lower rear independent suspension, wider tires with lightweight custom rims, intake custom. I enjoy road racing like IMSA racing as I drive the "Hill Country" in upper Tejas. SSgrower I live near the coast

my first was a 69' dodge charger... man what i wouldn't do to have that thing yet!!! i really like anything go fast though. old/new/small/big.. anything modified to make it perform better i'm into... even nitrous on a chainsaw fires me up!!! haha

some of these pro companies out there though are so badass, like the trans am folks making that new 2024 70' chevelle.. that car is just straight badass in every way!!!

Kinda had a feeling it would play out like that. Blaney has just been out Larsoning Larson for about a month and the Fords turned it on late so it just had that perfect storm vibe to it.
I thought Blaney might give it all away fucking with that hornets nest of a 1 car but he settled down. Nobody was catching that car on the long runs and it was kinda funny to see Truex get to his bumper then kinda say, yeah, no I aint fucking with that. Come get you some 12 and backed off it.
Crazy scene after the race though. Everybody was gettin' hammered! Like every team all I saw was suds flowing!

I'm so looking forward to next year! Lots of new faces will be out there probably gonna make a few old timers pissed off every week. Brisky gets the slate wiped clean and maybe makes another run at it like '22. And the Ponies will have an all new look!

man the new fords look like a chevy!!! they'll smartin up one day!! hahahaha

there's some big changes in SHR coming next year.. lots of excitement and new people mixed in, just making the competition that much tighter!!!

good thing it's a short off season... i'm ready for next sunday already!!! hahaha

Trying to follow along but what's with the one and quarter sec spread between #4 and #5?View attachment 28746

yep, like Anthem said, amount of time behind the leader. they were taking about 28 seconds to make a lap there.

 

[Anthem275]

yeah it was a good race, a good season too... to just come up short and finish second is nothing to hand their hats about!!



my first was a 69' dodge charger... man what i wouldn't do to have that thing yet!!! i really like anything go fast though. old/new/small/big.. anything modified to make it perform better i'm into... even nitrous on a chainsaw fires me up!!! haha

I have a hard time even going to events in person because most of the high performance stuff uses VP gasoline, If they are on Gasoline. Just the smell gets me going.
I have to keep some of this vague, but my buddy and I knew some shit was not right at events. We knew people where going faster than what they had been in the past. That was back when the pro stock guys where running propylene oxide. We went another route, nitromethane. Anyways we are in his garage put a mixer of like 1 percent nitro into the tank. Could not tell any difference, forgot the float bowls where full. Once that stuff got into the cylinders you could hear the difference. We had to mix the nitro with Acetone first to get the nitro to stay in the gas. straight Nitro will just fall out of gasoline. Only way you could tell the fuel was tampered with was the blue flame shooting out the exhaust on shut off or texting it.
Nitro and anything with an oxide in the name is oxygen bearing and improves performance.

@Stoneyluv you remember Micheal Waltrip getting busted for having that oxygen bearing crap in his manifold at the duels at Daytona the one year?

 

[Stoneyluv]

i'm still struggling with growing anything. i thought it was that 550 until today. things were growing fine last night ,so i thought. the five older seedlings didn't do so well, they were all started under the 550 and mid week they started showing the same signs and progressively got worse. except for one. the grape punch stayed green and kept growing. so i still felt it was the 550 being the problem, this plant is still growing nice and all four of my newest seedlings at a week old looked good.... until today. today i see the same damn signs on the one healthy plant and now signs on the two newest seedlings.

so there are only two common denominators left the seeds starter soil from two different bags bought at different times. and the great white i recently purchased.

i know for a fact that this light at this current spectrum grows plants excellent, i know i have to take that out of the equation. happy it's not the new 550 but totally baffled and frustrated on what my problem is.

so this afternoon i upcanned the oldest plant (grape punch) into stonington mix and also put the two newest seedlings in the stonington mix as well and did not use any great white at all, just water only.

the shitty part is i have to wait 8-10 days to see if this works or not... so far it's been the not!!!

if these two new seedlings yellow like the others i am at a complete loss and have no idea where to ever turn next. if they don't yellow then i can narrow it down between the GW and the seed starter mix.

here's the insurance photos... (sorry, trying to keep myself amused so i don't get upset with it)



so i figured the arc, tangie, and the sweets wern't going to make it but left them in there in case i figured it out.. they look just like all the others did in a couple weeks.



but the grape punch didn't yellow and kept growing... then today she showed yellow so i put her in the airpot and water only...



even the four newest ones were looking great, leaves up and perky with great color. last night i was still convinced it was the light. then today an hour after the light came on i saw the yellowing on the four new ones too... they look different too.. sad looking leaves not perky.. in just one night?!?!?!? i just don't get it!!!

the bubbles had a little leaf twist but i'm not concerned about that really, i've always understood that to be fast growth when they're young. it's the yellow on the newest growth. left alone this plant will be dead in two days.





so these two newest ones are in stonington mix and water only.... i'm going to leave the 275 in there for lighting.



am i missing something here guys? does anybody have an answer for me at all?

i have never had this kind of struggle before and seems really odd to me that seed starter mix wouldn't be strong enough for ten days of growth... that seed starter should grow plants for weeks and weeks right?

can it be my water?

why on 8-10 days in, why not on day two or three or six?

maybe i need to go back to mixing my own soil?

so confused...

 

[steamroller]

I start in COM starter soil and ignored my current crop for 30 days..
Could it be the seeds?

 

[Anthem275]

i'm still struggling with growing anything. i thought it was that 550 until today. things were growing fine last night ,so i thought. the five older seedlings didn't do so well, they were all started under the 550 and mid week they started showing the same signs and progressively got worse. except for one. the grape punch stayed green and kept growing. so i still felt it was the 550 being the problem, this plant is still growing nice and all four of my newest seedlings at a week old looked good.... until today. today i see the same damn signs on the one healthy plant and now signs on the two newest seedlings.

so there are only two common denominators left the seeds starter soil from two different bags bought at different times. and the great white i recently purchased.

i know for a fact that this light at this current spectrum grows plants excellent, i know i have to take that out of the equation. happy it's not the new 550 but totally baffled and frustrated on what my problem is.

so this afternoon i upcanned the oldest plant (grape punch) into stonington mix and also put the two newest seedlings in the stonington mix as well and did not use any great white at all, just water only.

the shitty part is i have to wait 8-10 days to see if this works or not... so far it's been the not!!!

if these two new seedlings yellow like the others i am at a complete loss and have no idea where to ever turn next. if they don't yellow then i can narrow it down between the GW and the seed starter mix.

here's the insurance photos... (sorry, trying to keep myself amused so i don't get upset with it)

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so i figured the arc, tangie, and the sweets wern't going to make it but left them in there in case i figured it out.. they look just like all the others did in a couple weeks.

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but the grape punch didn't yellow and kept growing... then today she showed yellow so i put her in the airpot and water only...

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even the four newest ones were looking great, leaves up and perky with great color. last night i was still convinced it was the light. then today an hour after the light came on i saw the yellowing on the four new ones too... they look different too.. sad looking leaves not perky.. in just one night?!?!?!? i just don't get it!!!

the bubbles had a little leaf twist but i'm not concerned about that really, i've always understood that to be fast growth when they're young. it's the yellow on the newest growth. left alone this plant will be dead in two days.

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so these two newest ones are in stonington mix and water only.... i'm going to leave the 275 in there for lighting.

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am i missing something here guys? does anybody have an answer for me at all?

i have never had this kind of struggle before and seems really odd to me that seed starter mix wouldn't be strong enough for ten days of growth... that seed starter should grow plants for weeks and weeks right?

can it be my water?

why on 8-10 days in, why not on day two or three or six?

maybe i need to go back to mixing my own soil?

so confused...

Do u have environmental control of the grow area?
Cool air intake from
Outside?

 

[Zen_seeker]

Any change in water was going to be my question but you finished with that.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I have a hard time even going to events in person because most of the high performance stuff uses VP gasoline, If they are on Gasoline. Just the smell gets me going.
I have to keep some of this vague, but my buddy and I knew some shit was not right at events. We knew people where going faster than what they had been in the past. That was back when the pro stock guys where running propylene oxide. We went another route, nitromethane. Anyways we are in his garage put a mixer of like 1 percent nitro into the tank. Could not tell any difference, forgot the float bowls where full. Once that stuff got into the cylinders you could hear the difference. We had to mix the nitro with Acetone first to get the nitro to stay in the gas. straight Nitro will just fall out of gasoline. Only way you could tell the fuel was tampered with was the blue flame shooting out the exhaust on shut off or texting it.
Nitro and anything with an oxide in the name is oxygen bearing and improves performance.

@Stoneyluv you remember Micheal Waltrip getting busted for having that oxygen bearing crap in his manifold at the duels at Daytona the one year?

i remember that.. waltrip wasn't the only one, wasn't it crusty wallace that stored methane in his roll bars and i injected as the race went on?... safety third i guess!!!

years ago we were riding four wheelers with these guys we didn't know. they ran an alcohol methane mix i think it was, something about those fumes man following those guys we got all goofy and we were ridding into each other like bumper cars and shit acting all giddy and weird... we felt something from those fumes and lost quite a few brain cells that day!!!! hahaha

I start in COM starter soil and ignored my current crop for 30 days..
Could it be the seeds?

i thought the soil should be strong enough, but wasn't sure. and ya know i bought two different bags at different times so i really doubt it's soil now and upcanning to the stonington might not do anything but waste time and soil.

the seeds i can't say no for sure but man it's been a lot of seeds.. about 30 or more over the past two months now. all greenpoint except for the arc and tangie but all had the exact same symptoms and results. so maybe genetics but doubtful at this time. i could try some that i grew before from the same packs but i do't want to waste them right now to find out... i'll dig through my collection and try to start some from another place.

Do u have environmental control of the grow area?
Cool air intake from
Outside?

i don't have air from the outside, i get air from my basement. i believe you guys call it a lung room. right now i have heater in there because it's cold out so the exhaust barely runs.. i've grown down there for more than ten years but i'm struggling so much here i think i'm going to try and set up a temp grow space upstairs just to grab at straws...

i'm just not sure if my issue is deficiency or poison... so i'm willing to change anything at this point.

Any change in water was going to be my question but you finished with that.

no change but i'm going to test it again just to make sure.

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i think i might make a temp grow space upstairs, use an old 550, mix up my own soil, and use water from my faucet and try to grow other seeds from another place see what happens. this wait and see game is getting to my head though... makes me want to douse it all in gas and light a match!!

 

[Zen_seeker]

You ever add H2O2 to the water first?

 

[Bandit420]

yeah it was a good race, a good season too... to just come up short and finish second is nothing to hand their hats about!!



my first was a 69' dodge charger... man what i wouldn't do to have that thing yet!!! i really like anything go fast though. old/new/small/big.. anything modified to make it perform better i'm into... even nitrous on a chainsaw fires me up!!! haha

some of these pro companies out there though are so badass, like the trans am folks making that new 2024 70' chevelle.. that car is just straight badass in every way!!!

man the new fords look like a chevy!!! they'll smartin up one day!! hahahaha

there's some big changes in SHR coming next year.. lots of excitement and new people mixed in, just making the competition that much tighter!!!

good thing it's a short off season... i'm ready for next sunday already!!! hahaha



yep, like Anthem said, amount of time behind the leader. they were taking about 28 seconds to make a lap there.

Haha I thought it looked a little Camaory too but hey if ya can't beat 'em, copy their shit!

i'm still struggling with growing anything. i thought it was that 550 until today. things were growing fine last night ,so i thought. the five older seedlings didn't do so well, they were all started under the 550 and mid week they started showing the same signs and progressively got worse. except for one. the grape punch stayed green and kept growing. so i still felt it was the 550 being the problem, this plant is still growing nice and all four of my newest seedlings at a week old looked good.... until today. today i see the same damn signs on the one healthy plant and now signs on the two newest seedlings.

so there are only two common denominators left the seeds starter soil from two different bags bought at different times. and the great white i recently purchased.

i know for a fact that this light at this current spectrum grows plants excellent, i know i have to take that out of the equation. happy it's not the new 550 but totally baffled and frustrated on what my problem is.

so this afternoon i upcanned the oldest plant (grape punch) into stonington mix and also put the two newest seedlings in the stonington mix as well and did not use any great white at all, just water only.

the shitty part is i have to wait 8-10 days to see if this works or not... so far it's been the not!!!

if these two new seedlings yellow like the others i am at a complete loss and have no idea where to ever turn next. if they don't yellow then i can narrow it down between the GW and the seed starter mix.

here's the insurance photos... (sorry, trying to keep myself amused so i don't get upset with it)

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so i figured the arc, tangie, and the sweets wern't going to make it but left them in there in case i figured it out.. they look just like all the others did in a couple weeks.

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but the grape punch didn't yellow and kept growing... then today she showed yellow so i put her in the airpot and water only...

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even the four newest ones were looking great, leaves up and perky with great color. last night i was still convinced it was the light. then today an hour after the light came on i saw the yellowing on the four new ones too... they look different too.. sad looking leaves not perky.. in just one night?!?!?!? i just don't get it!!!

the bubbles had a little leaf twist but i'm not concerned about that really, i've always understood that to be fast growth when they're young. it's the yellow on the newest growth. left alone this plant will be dead in two days.

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so these two newest ones are in stonington mix and water only.... i'm going to leave the 275 in there for lighting.

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am i missing something here guys? does anybody have an answer for me at all?

i have never had this kind of struggle before and seems really odd to me that seed starter mix wouldn't be strong enough for ten days of growth... that seed starter should grow plants for weeks and weeks right?

can it be my water?

why on 8-10 days in, why not on day two or three or six?

maybe i need to go back to mixing my own soil?

so confused...

Hard to tell with no stem shots other than a little blurry look at one but do an autopsy on them and I'm thinking you'll find a pandemic level of dampening off.
Everything you say and and what it looks like points to that from my end. Timing of the infection and all that.
Pull one and wash off the soil or even scratch it back from the stem about 1 inch deep and you'll know for sure.
If it looks like this you'll know



Starting from the top down it will be green then turn brown and finally a choking off severing the root from the top. When it's severed the top dies. The process from living to dead happens within the first week to ten days after germination.
What's ugly and brown should be white after the wash. If it looks anything like that pic it's dampening off.
If this is the problem then the cure is kinda ez with a much lighter soil, less frequent and abundant waterings, and air flow from above and the sides. And of course, no more beans in the chili

 

[Stoneyluv]

You ever add H2O2 to the water first?

no not in a long long time i haven't. it's just rain water with an air stone and some vitamin B

Haha I thought it looked a little Camaory too but hey if ya can't beat 'em, copy their shit!



Hard to tell with no stem shots other than a little blurry look at one but do an autopsy on them and I'm thinking you'll find a pandemic level of dampening off.
Everything you say and and what it looks like points to that from my end. Timing of the infection and all that.
Pull one and wash off the soil or even scratch it back from the stem about 1 inch deep and you'll know for sure.
If it looks like this you'll know

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Starting from the top down it will be green then turn brown and finally a choking off severing the root from the top. When it's severed the top dies. The process from living to dead happens within the first week to ten days after germination.
What's ugly and brown should be white after the wash. If it looks anything like that pic it's dampening off.
If this is the problem then the cure is kinda ez with a much lighter soil, less frequent and abundant waterings, and air flow from above and the sides. And of course, no more beans in the chili

sure now ya tell me after i already added the beans.... i can eat around them!!!

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so i washed the two worst ones off and they have a pretty good resemblance of what you posted... very little branching off either, must be another sign.



that seed starter is pretty dense as far as soil goes.. it didn't crumble apart, it pealed in chunks.

i left the five alone and hope a new watering technique helps them recover. it's pretty dry in there right now so it shouldn't take them long to dry up a bit.



the three new ones are a bit of a test... the two on the right are in stonington blend right from the start, might be too hot but we're gonna find out soon... and the critterz on the left is in harbor coast blend, same npk as the seed starter but it's a lighter blend.



the four that were looking left for dead i washed off and put them in my aerocloner... maybe i can save them, worth the try anyway!!



so this is how i'm going to leave everything for the night and we'll see how they look tomorrow.. lights go out in a couple hours anyway so maybe not much of a change expected, but hopeful.

 

[Bandit420]

no not in a long long time i haven't. it's just rain water with an air stone and some vitamin B



sure now ya tell me after i already added the beans.... i can eat around them!!!

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so i washed the two worst ones off and they have a pretty good resemblance of what you posted... very little branching off either, must be another sign.

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that seed starter is pretty dense as far as soil goes.. it didn't crumble apart, it pealed in chunks.

i left the five alone and hope a new watering technique helps them recover. it's pretty dry in there right now so it shouldn't take them long to dry up a bit.

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the three new ones are a bit of a test... the two on the right are in stonington blend right from the start, might be too hot but we're gonna find out soon... and the critterz on the left is in harbor coast blend, same npk as the seed starter but it's a lighter blend.

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the four that were looking left for dead i washed off and put them in my aerocloner... maybe i can save them, worth the try anyway!!

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so this is how i'm going to leave everything for the night and we'll see how they look tomorrow.. lights go out in a couple hours anyway so maybe not much of a change expected, but hopeful.

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Well at least it is just beans and not like Anthem and his tofu chili. That's how people get syphilis.

That soil looks dense AF for being a starter mix. Usually that stuff is a 50/50 blend of vermiculite and perlite with a little castings and compost to give it a little kick but that stuff looks like almost all compost. Weird to see the HB have more perlite than the starter mix.
I think I read steamroller not watering it very often, like he would water once compared to 3-4x I had to water in the Roots soils in the same time frame but my room was also running very hot at the time.

The one on the right might be past saving but the lefty looks to still have hope. And you can see how that shit can mimic other issues like light burn/stress and hot soils/fertilizer burn, freeze burn, and you can't tell unless you can get a good view of what's going on just under the soil surface.

Dampening off is something I probably flirt with every single grow Brother. Using those 1 gallon pots instead of small starter pots and such. And I'm about to start using larger containers so my risk will increase with that move but the benefit will outweigh the risk for me.
I pre-water before adding the sprout then add maybe a half cup more after planting then nothing for about the first week or so. And that's with a super light soil that barely weighs anything when dry.
The airpot and warm room helps it dry a little faster than normal and I have a fan blowing on the pots from the side and also have the benefit of a ceiling fan overhead.
IDK if aerating my water beforehand helps or not but I do it just because it's a direct delivery of oxygen to the roots and lack of oxygen is what causes that damp off.
I use the great white too and doubt it has any negative effect but maybe could if too much was added.
IDK how long you leave the sprouts in the VG but if you let 'em go until that tap root fishbones then that can also help with their ability to take up water from the get go and not bottom out on the soggy soil.

Speaking of chili the weather here turned from cold to tropic warm...Last week in the 40s and this week 85 and muggy so I've delayed my first chili of the season until it dips again. But it's gonna be a ground brisket and chopped tenderloin job in the Dutch oven and smoked for about 12-15 hours. I can't wait to start it!!!! Later this Winter I'll break from the Texas Red tradition and do my first chili verde

 

[Zen_seeker]

Hey bud, what’s with the personality change?

He came in third. That’s very respectable IMO. No need to start a galactic war over it.

Is this how it all starts.

 

[Bandit420]

Hey bud, what’s with the personality change?

He came in third. That’s very respectable IMO. No need to start a galactic war over it.

Is this how it all starts.

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Well he has been giving his seedlings the ol telepathic choke hold

 

[Anthem275]

Well at least it is just beans and not like Anthem and his tofu chili. That's how people get syphilis.

That soil looks dense AF for being a starter mix. Usually that stuff is a 50/50 blend of vermiculite and perlite with a little castings and compost to give it a little kick but that stuff looks like almost all compost. Weird to see the HB have more perlite than the starter mix.
I think I read steamroller not watering it very often, like he would water once compared to 3-4x I had to water in the Roots soils in the same time frame but my room was also running very hot at the time.

The one on the right might be past saving but the lefty looks to still have hope. And you can see how that shit can mimic other issues like light burn/stress and hot soils/fertilizer burn, freeze burn, and you can't tell unless you can get a good view of what's going on just under the soil surface.

Dampening off is something I probably flirt with every single grow Brother. Using those 1 gallon pots instead of small starter pots and such. And I'm about to start using larger containers so my risk will increase with that move but the benefit will outweigh the risk for me.
I pre-water before adding the sprout then add maybe a half cup more after planting then nothing for about the first week or so. And that's with a super light soil that barely weighs anything when dry.
The airpot and warm room helps it dry a little faster than normal and I have a fan blowing on the pots from the side and also have the benefit of a ceiling fan overhead.
IDK if aerating my water beforehand helps or not but I do it just because it's a direct delivery of oxygen to the roots and lack of oxygen is what causes that damp off.
I use the great white too and doubt it has any negative effect but maybe could if too much was added.
IDK how long you leave the sprouts in the VG but if you let 'em go until that tap root fishbones then that can also help with their ability to take up water from the get go and not bottom out on the soggy soil.

Speaking of chili the weather here turned from cold to tropic warm...Last week in the 40s and this week 85 and muggy so I've delayed my first chili of the season until it dips again. But it's gonna be a ground brisket and chopped tenderloin job in the Dutch oven and smoked for about 12-15 hours. I can't wait to start it!!!! Later this Winter I'll break from the Texas Red tradition and do my first chili verde

When is the Chili verde cooking starting?

 

[Anthem275]

i remember that.. waltrip wasn't the only one, wasn't it crusty wallace that stored methane in his roll bars and i injected as the race went on?... safety third i guess!!!

years ago we were riding four wheelers with these guys we didn't know. they ran an alcohol methane mix i think it was, something about those fumes man following those guys we got all goofy and we were ridding into each other like bumper cars and shit acting all giddy and weird... we felt something from those fumes and lost quite a few brain cells that day!!!! hahaha



i thought the soil should be strong enough, but wasn't sure. and ya know i bought two different bags at different times so i really doubt it's soil now and upcanning to the stonington might not do anything but waste time and soil.

the seeds i can't say no for sure but man it's been a lot of seeds.. about 30 or more over the past two months now. all greenpoint except for the arc and tangie but all had the exact same symptoms and results. so maybe genetics but doubtful at this time. i could try some that i grew before from the same packs but i do't want to waste them right now to find out... i'll dig through my collection and try to start some from another place.



i don't have air from the outside, i get air from my basement. i believe you guys call it a lung room. right now i have heater in there because it's cold out so the exhaust barely runs.. i've grown down there for more than ten years but i'm struggling so much here i think i'm going to try and set up a temp grow space upstairs just to grab at straws...

i'm just not sure if my issue is deficiency or poison... so i'm willing to change anything at this point.



no change but i'm going to test it again just to make sure.

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i think i might make a temp grow space upstairs, use an old 550, mix up my own soil, and use water from my faucet and try to grow other seeds from another place see what happens. this wait and see game is getting to my head though... makes me want to douse it all in gas and light a match!!

I was not aware of the Rusty Wallace issue. Thinking it was maybe Nitrous Oxide he would have ran in the roll cage under pressure. Nitrous has a pretty interesting past to it. First off it is laughing gas, same thing the dentist uses to put people to sleep. It was found to work on combustion engines during WW2. The german's had it in their fighter planes as a last ditch effort to evade the P51 mustangs. It has a pretty unique property. Under heat the molecule breaks apart and forms 2 oxygen molecules. That is why people running nitrous have fuel solenoids as well. You have to add additional fuel when you run nitrous. Also the guys that know their shit will lower the compression in the motor. Years ago they had these mini bottle called sneaky petes some of the sprint car drivers would use. I was about to say hard on part but that is about the ideal place to use them because sprint cars have an adjustable fuel mixture device in the cockpit.

I do not think there is the degree of cheating in racing today because of tech. If you ever want to hear some funny stories look up a guy named Smokey Unik. The crap that guy pulled in the early days of Nascar is flat out funny.