Grump's Gassy Cream Cake Grow 🌱

[CannaGranny]

These are the directions / tips I received with my very recent Captain Redbeard seed purchase.
I got Oregon Grapes which Granny has grown 3 times.
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Thanks for posting that! You are gonna love the OG! I do. Very few make the second grow with me, not saying it’s bad, there’s just too much out there. This will be the third time and I see myself keeping this around for a good long while!

 

[Zen_seeker]

I'm seeing some $15/40 options on Amazon Canada

Amazon.ca : neoprene cloning collars

Cool, thanks. I can never find a dozen or less. I’ll never use the big packs.

Not too bad since in the USA I pay the same but get 70 collars.
But you're right about shipping. $15 worth of collars would probably cost $50 to ship it up to Canada from Texas, probably a little less from NY.

Ya, I figured as much. It’s silly just going out of province but crossing the border is a killer.

Neoprene is choice because it deters infections and repels moisture.
Maybe 10 years ago there were size differences between different brands but now everything is 2" diameter across all brands.
The multi color kit is great for separating strains by color coding them.

Cool. I only do 4 at a time. Limits and space. I figure 8-12 just as backup or if I need to clean a set.

But yeah, cloning machines are not just for clones. Seedlings take off like crazy in them and is why I'll be starting sprouts and doing about 10 days in veg using my cloner then planting into soil from now on. VG to clone machine is the fastest and most robust performance I've ever seen starting a new grow.
Did a test run on this grow so now I'm making the wholesale switch because it was so dang fast and the young sprouts absolutely loved it compared to traditional ways of starting in soil from the start or using plugs/rockwool or anything else along those lines.
In hydro it's even easier. Start in a cloner for veg and flower in DWC

That’s something to consider. I’ll watch your posts. See what I can copy. Going to be in soil a long time still I expect.

 

[Observer]

I usually soak

But I think it "drowns" them overall.

But, taproot is usually peeking out within 24hrs

 

[Max]

I soak for 24 hours in a fifty fifty mix of water and 3% peroxide, and then plant them in the soil. I do it to all of my seeds regardless of strain.

I’m same .i usually don’t like going over 24 hrs but sometimes there’s stubborn ones that don’t show there tail.I’ll usually change the water if I go over..
you are right obs . it will drown them ..I’ve never had no brain damaged plants yet ..well afaik they havnt .usually once they sink you know they have cracked so you can sow them..i wait till I see a little tail then plant .after all we are upside down down here in backwards flushing country.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I'm seeing some $15/40 options on Amazon Canada

Amazon.ca : neoprene cloning collars

Agree. 40 2” for $12 is the cheapest but an unknown vendor.

$20’s for 40-60 2” from better vendors.

I can’t find my metric tape but the holes I have are about 1.5”. I found 1.65” plugs but they are for a specific cloner and about $40 for 72 plugs.

Leaning towards these with the hope I can cut them to fit.

https://www.amazon.ca/LAMELLIS-Collars-Neoprene-Hydroponics-Machines/dp/B0D2C74XZJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_81?crid=8EBNVOE2XJWP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3R-A7vfRLgGu8or67v0lDXgHO7nH8pNa3PKfYem2Kz5dccNc7CIBqlUJmACFSQfNLYEmmRACW_8WLm2wsQqX8V0qRMpzDLzUigsCrUZnGqSCsF_vqsVNpWo3lK1zWneis6OkX_1SxHFLGpX5d0TJdhk_48TOCex8o-nszHplbS376Z_QxfJQznbe84NtzaPDePwMQ2DkWCKokhUjSk19tw.E7_3OCjEHjwTs4zF6B1vmsTeos9nQ3lES3EiWM2Ffuc&dib_tag=se&keywords=neoprene+cloning+collars&qid=1733226425&sprefix=neoprene+cloning+collars%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-81

 

[GrumpAzz]

I like to start the process with some peroxide or chlorine too. End up with only the microbes you want in the grow.

This is why I bleach my system before another run. That and just look at these pipes...

 

[Chemistry]

Agree. 40 2” for $12 is the cheapest but an unknown vendor.

$20’s for 40-60 2” from better vendors.

I can’t find my metric tape but the holes I have are about 1.5”. I found 1.65” plugs but they are for a specific cloner and about $40 for 72 plugs.

Leaning towards these with the hope I can cut them to fit.
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https://www.amazon.ca/LAMELLIS-Collars-Neoprene-Hydroponics-Machines/dp/B0D2C74XZJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_81?crid=8EBNVOE2XJWP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3R-A7vfRLgGu8or67v0lDXgHO7nH8pNa3PKfYem2Kz5dccNc7CIBqlUJmACFSQfNLYEmmRACW_8WLm2wsQqX8V0qRMpzDLzUigsCrUZnGqSCsF_vqsVNpWo3lK1zWneis6OkX_1SxHFLGpX5d0TJdhk_48TOCex8o-nszHplbS376Z_QxfJQznbe84NtzaPDePwMQ2DkWCKokhUjSk19tw.E7_3OCjEHjwTs4zF6B1vmsTeos9nQ3lES3EiWM2Ffuc&dib_tag=se&keywords=neoprene+cloning+collars&qid=1733226425&sprefix=neoprene+cloning+collars%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-81

I made my own from polystyrene, chuck them when your done, and just make new ones every run.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I made my own from polystyrene, chuck them when your done, and just make new ones every run.

So did I. Tops bigger than the hole so it sits in snugly. I reuse mine. Only issue is the clones need a branch to rest on or they can slip down. The groove I melted to the middle with a heated paper clip.