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Observer said:
There's not much on the market that I know of that seem to be as reliable, without dropping thousands on lab-grade equipment or making your own

I'd like to have live monitoring 24/7 too next time I do dwc

I just have the pH and E.C pens for now
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Moe had all that atlas equipment that he bought new and after a grow or two he already started having issues.. i bought that dfrobot ph sensor, the best one they offered, less than a year later and now it won't calibrate anymore and i've tried factory resets and all kinds of tries.. nothing works, it's useless to me right now. it's why i went ebay hunting for the bluelabs in the first place!
 
Observer said:
There's not much on the market that I know of that seem to be as reliable, without dropping thousands on lab-grade equipment or making your own

I'd like to have live monitoring 24/7 too next time I do dwc

I just have the pH and E.C pens for now
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I leave mine in 24/7 and only need to recal once every 3 months for new grow. I compare against ph stick pen to make sure every 2 weeks, but it's always right on.

From the little i know, if you want to leave in solution 24/7 you absolutely have to have a double junction probe, which means the inside is contained in it's own solution, not directly in the testing environment. This means the reading is a little slower on a fast change reading but much more reliable.

What is the difference between a single & double junction probe?

The reference cell of a single junction probe has a wick or frit that makes direct contact with the solution being measured. This is an essential component that allows the probe to function. Contamina
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Stoneyluv said:
Moe had all that atlas equipment that he bought new and after a grow or two he already started having issues.. i bought that dfrobot ph sensor, the best one they offered, less than a year later and now it won't calibrate anymore and i've tried factory resets and all kinds of tries.. nothing works, it's useless to me right now. it's why i went ebay hunting for the bluelabs in the first place!
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A year is usually all a mfg will say they last if suspended 24/7 in solution. I get 2 years from the apera double junction, and for $40 i think it's a bargain
 
ninjadip said:
A year is usually all a mfg will say they last if suspended 24/7 in solution. I get 2 years from the apera double junction, and for $40 i think it's a bargain
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I’ve got one that separates using a bnc connection. I use it to check the other cheap ones I have.

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They've bounced back just fine.20250914_113409.jpg

Here they were on Aug 5th, the mor ing after nipping them...
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And this is today.
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I've got a little cupping going on. I initially turned the light to 75% intensity after I stripped them. They only got that for a day because they looked like they were asking for more yesterday, so I cranked it back up.

I thermoed the leaves and they're 69-71 degrees so my VPD is actually a lot lower than I thought. Makes sense with the cupping now, too low of VPD for that intense of light... so I bumped the tent up a couple more degrees.

Pretty crazy to go from snip to dinner plates in just over a month though... clone growth is dope and I already can't wait for the next round.
 
GrumpAzz said:
They've bounced back just fine.View attachment 113731

Here they were on Aug 5th, the mor ing after nipping them...
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And this is today.
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I've got a little cupping going on. I initially turned the light to 75% intensity after I stripped them. They only got that for a day because they looked like they were asking for more yesterday, so I cranked it back up.

I thermoed the leaves and they're 69-71 degrees so my VPD is actually a lot lower than I thought. Makes sense with the cupping now, too low of VPD for that intense of light... so I bumped the tent up a couple more degrees.

Pretty crazy to go from snip to dinner plates in just over a month though... clone growth is dope and I already can't wait for the next round.
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You're really rocking it out, having fun, and it shows big time man!
Love the the health and palm tree look of your plants.
I'm having fun watching you have fun with this ;blks
 
GrumpAzz said:
They've bounced back just fine.View attachment 113731

Here they were on Aug 5th, the mor ing after nipping them...
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And this is today.
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I've got a little cupping going on. I initially turned the light to 75% intensity after I stripped them. They only got that for a day because they looked like they were asking for more yesterday, so I cranked it back up.

I thermoed the leaves and they're 69-71 degrees so my VPD is actually a lot lower than I thought. Makes sense with the cupping now, too low of VPD for that intense of light... so I bumped the tent up a couple more degrees.

Pretty crazy to go from snip to dinner plates in just over a month though... clone growth is dope and I already can't wait for the next round.
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I knew you’d have no big issues. I love how easy clones are compared to starting seeds. You’re all set to go perpetually now if you want. Or keep cloning a nice strain while you pop seeds and experiment.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Man.. I wish. I need another space and hydro setup for all that. Basically gonna have to double what I've got now.

It's coming though.. Mark my words.
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I bought a second set of equipment as a backup when I found the items on sale. Wasn’t long before I set it up and started use it too. Lol

Hard part was stopping. I had more weed than we could use or give away fast enough in only two years. I just gave away three ounces to my buddy. Two are the good stuff from winter 2023, one was from the last harvest. I keep a hygrometer and Boveda pack in each Mason jar.

So now I take the summer off and let my son have a go if he wants. I’ll still do the winter runs.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Man.. I wish. I need another space and hydro setup for all that. Basically gonna have to double what I've got now.

It's coming though.. Mark my words.
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Zen_seeker said:
Hard part was stopping. I had more weed than we could use or give away fast enough in only two years. I just gave away three ounces to my buddy. Two are the good stuff from winter 2023, one was from the last harvest. I keep a hygrometer and Boveda pack in each Mason jar.
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I am not sure why I grow more than I need?
Even without going perpetual.
Kind of feel bad but also need a hobby.
Doesn't take long to get ahead though.
I am bad with numbers ~!;gr
 
steamroller said:
I am not sure why I grow more than I need?
Even without going perpetual.
Kind of feel bad but also need a hobby.
Doesn't take long to get ahead though.
I am bad with numbers ~!;gr
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When I started growing I didn’t know there were limits. I had seedlings all over the yard in water bottle pots. Doing tests and experimenting with different ideas and goals. Since then I toe the line. The closest I come now is starting clones before harvest. If I have more clones than i need I’ll give them away, I hate tossing good clones but that’s the last resort.
 
Well everybody looked fine and bushy today. As I was inspecting the their bushes, I noticed dew buildup so I stripped 'em down as far as I could on each of the 4 colas. I left the oldest fan on each and snipped as far up as I could. Soon enough, each cola will get tied down to an eyelet.
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They also got a new batch of nutes to celebrate a big day... Flip Day! Yep you heard me right! Flippin' Flip Day.

I hit 'em pretty hard with their first taste of bloom nutes. Once through stretch they'll also start getting a PK supplement. From experience, I expect to see the pH settle a little bit higher than that but I'll keep an eye on it.
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Since I decided to flip today...
yeah...
Flip Day baby...
... I flopped the reds and blues right away. After stretch they'll get even less blues. Right now this spectrum shows 500-530 ppfd according to the photone. It's says that equates to 21-23 DLI which will slowly be bumped up each week. I assume the plants will do it themselves as they take off.
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This is right about where the tent stays, give or take a degree or percentage point here and there. I've been running it hot because I've got quite the leaf temp offset and I'd like to keep 'er around 1kPa for now. Humidity will get dropped after stretch as well. Bout time to break out the other dehuey.
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Big update today so I'm glad you didn't miss it.
FUGGIN' FLIP DAY
Thanks for keeping up with this clone to dome adventure of mine. So far it's been a blast and I can't freakin' wait to start seeing that first fuzz.
Rock on and as always..
✌️&💚
 
GrumpAzz said:
Well everybody looked fine and bushy today. As I was inspecting the their bushes, I noticed dew buildup so I stripped 'em down as far as I could on each of the 4 colas. I left the oldest fan on each and snipped as far up as I could. Soon enough, each cola will get tied down to an eyelet.
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They also got a new batch of nutes to celebrate a big day... Flip Day! Yep you heard me right! Flippin' Flip Day.

I hit 'em pretty hard with their first taste of bloom nutes. Once through stretch they'll also start getting a PK supplement. From experience, I expect to see the pH settle a little bit higher than that but I'll keep an eye on it.
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Since I decided to flip today...
yeah...
Flip Day baby...
... I flopped the reds and blues right away. After stretch they'll get even less blues. Right now this spectrum shows 500-530 ppfd according to the photone. It's says that equates to 21-23 DLI which will slowly be bumped up each week. I assume the plants will do it themselves as they take off.
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This is right about where the tent stays, give or take a degree or percentage point here and there. I've been running it hot because I've got quite the leaf temp offset and I'd like to keep 'er around 1kPa for now. Humidity will get dropped after stretch as well. Bout time to break out the other dehuey.
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Big update today so I'm glad you didn't miss it.
FUGGIN' FLIP DAY
Thanks for keeping up with this clone to dome adventure of mine. So far it's been a blast and I can't freakin' wait to start seeing that first fuzz.
Rock on and as always..
✌️&💚
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Maybe i should flip earlier next time, I've never done it that early before
 
ninjadip said:
Maybe i should flip earlier next time, I've never done it that early before
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Bandit flips hella early... like maybe immediately.

All these girls have alternating nodes so I'm figure they're ready to go. If it were a single plant scrog I'd probably go for a 2 month veg.
 
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ninjadip said:
Maybe i should flip earlier next time, I've never done it that early before
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Commercials flip clones day 5-15


I like to balance the plant size with my space available, then any time schedules or constraints.

A perfect/consistent environment greatly dictates growth rate, which not every homegrower can/does achieve.
 
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Got enough growth out of the smallest to train it down and out, so they all got tied down.
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Good news. After manhandling these stems, I got a good nose from them... Dirty dish towel. SCORE.

Gonna need to start a seed soon so I can take healthier clones next time. Wife went through all my seeds (50+ packs) and landed on these...
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Stinky Pink it is. I'll be popping a seed in a week or two.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Got enough growth out of the smallest to train it down and out, so they all got tied down.
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Good news. After manhandling these stems, I got a good nose from them... Dirty dish towel. SCORE.

Gonna need to start a seed soon so I can take healthier clones next time. Wife went through all my seeds (50+ packs) and landed on these...
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Stinky Pink it is. I'll be popping a seed in a week or two.
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Stinky pink (vagina)
😄
 
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