Kuwl's Deja Vue All Over Again

[OLDCRO]

right right, I forget, old folks do that....lol....and we repeat things often too....lol...its a good thing I'm stoned all the time....these things would bother me if not...I hate fking up or forgetting shit but I'm old and that's expected....lol..

I attach sticky notes to computer screen

 

[Pipecarver]

I have a bottle of cal mag its never been opened and yes i get the fade always afraid to lock up the plant

my chart man my chart, its why I started using it and seems to work...I was always afraid of it too but I used it at the wrong times ...according to my chart...lol.......well its not like its my chart it just sorta adopted it........graph.....lol

 

[OLDCRO]

my chart man my chart, its why I started using it and seems to work...I was always afraid of it too but I used it at the wrong times ...according to my chart...lol.......well its not like its my chart it just sorta adopted it........graph.....lolView attachment 36104

I add epsom salts every watering starting about 3 weeks from seed till harvest doesnt seem to hurt anything but i never added calcium

 

[steamroller]

The plants largest demand for mg is when you flip it.
Therefore mg should be started 1-2 weeks before flip and till about week 5-6.
I am feeding 3-2-1 and that has mg in every feeding from the start and my plants still need more.

 

[Kuwl]

The plants largest demand for mg is when you flip it.
Therefore mg should be started 1-2 weeks before flip and till about week 5-6.
I am feeding 3-2-1 and that has mg in every feeding from the start and my plants still need more.

That's pretty much what I do
I try to follow my chart best I can but when things go side ways I try to use common sense at what the plant leafs are telling me.
This is my go to chart and as you can see it calls for Mag Pro from wk 3 onward building up to week 5 then decreasing till wk 8.
I think I lose my way around week 6 for some reason.
I'm keeping a closer eye on the flowers this time, seeding is my major concern, maybe I stress them out at some point Idk.
If they go to seed again I'm gonna thow em in the fire pit and burn em to the ground, lol

 

[OLDCRO]

That's pretty much what I do
I try to follow my chart best I can but when things go side ways I try to use common sense at what the plant leafs are telling me.
This is my go to chart and as you can see it calls for Mag Pro from wk 3 onward building up to week 5 then decreasing till wk 8.
I think I lose my way around week 6 for some reason.
I'm keeping a closer eye on the flowers this time, seeding is my major concern, maybe I stress them out at some point Idk.
If they go to seed again I'm gonna thow em in the fire pit and burn em to the ground, lol

Harvest the buds first than burn them LOL

 

[Kuwl]

Anyone got tips on how to train a Bully to get along with a kitten? lol
My Daughter found a 2 month old tabi and she cant keep it, she's moving.
She wants me to have it but Sky gets too excitable when she brought it over.

 

[Kuwl]

Harvest the buds first than burn them LOL

Not much bud there with all those seeds and what a pain to clean out!

 

[steamroller]

You seem pretty on track and with a lot more control this grow.
If you get seeds/herm I would tend to look at genetics.

I don't tape my meters or power bars and have never had a herm.

 

[Kuwl]

Anyone got tips on how to train a Bully to get along with a kitten? lol
My Daughter found a 2 month old tabi and she cant keep it, she's moving.
She wants me to have it but Sky gets too excitable when she brought it over.

Panda just looked at it and Shady here took an even closer look and let out a lil hissss. lol
There he is bothering me as I type.

 

[Kuwl]

This was the first chart someone gave me, forgot the name but an old member.
I think that was 5 yrs ago.

Learning not to panic, have patience and trust.
Instead of throwing in the kitchen sink every time something goes off the rails.

 

[steamroller]

I don't think cats are so much trainable?
Mine still growls at me if I pet her when she is near her food.
2 months since we got her I think.
I give her a snack and she will growl at me for petting her.
Not a friendly growl either but she is short of attacking me~!
That is her happy look~!

 

[Kuwl]

I don't think cats are so much trainable?
Mine still growls at me if I pet her when she is near her food.
2 months since we got her I think.
I give her a snack and she will growl at me for petting her.
Not a friendly growl either but she is short of attacking me~!View attachment 36216
That is her happy look~!

I like that cat but there's evil behind those eyes. lol

 

[steamroller]

This was the first chart someone gave me, forgot the name but an old member.
I think that was 5 yrs ago.

Learning not to panic, have patience and trust.
Instead of throwing in the kitchen sink every time something goes off the rails.

I don't measure my stuff that way.
Runoff is not accurate with soil. Plain water through my soil was like 2000ppm~!
My 3-2-1 feeding is weight per gallon as all my nutes are dry.
I will say the hydro guys that are hitting it out of the park don't get their ppm over 750 ever much I have seen.
They fade at end under 400.

 

[Pipecarver]

I attach sticky notes to computer screen

Anyone got tips on how to train a Bully to get along with a kitten? lol
My Daughter found a 2 month old tabi and she cant keep it, she's moving.
She wants me to have it but Sky gets too excitable when she brought it over.

Brush them with the same brush can help, & don't introduce full time until they've had a few days to sniff one another between doors. They're big on smell and they smell different from one another, brushing with the same brush rubs scent from one to the other making them smell like family

 

[Pipecarver]

I don't think cats are so much trainable?
Mine still growls at me if I pet her when she is near her food.
2 months since we got her I think.
I give her a snack and she will growl at me for petting her.
Not a friendly growl either but she is short of attacking me~!View attachment 36216
That is her happy look~!

We had an almost identical cat...Maggie...she had an attitude as well

 

[Pipecarver]

Panda just looked at it and Shady here took an even closer look and let out a lil hissss. lol
There he is bothering me as I type.

Looks a lot like Qnight, just a bit younger, we describe him as a Siamese looking cat. I read once that there are no true Black Siamese cats. Siamese have to have a specific color and black ain't it but they still have that gene's look and attitude.

He's a very sweet loving boy but he doesn't play, he kills. What ever toy we play with the other cats play with it but Qnight attacks and kills it. Once he grabs the toy its his and look out toy.....same goes for toes under the covers, if it looks like prey his claws go through sheets and blankets as if they weren't there.

 

[Kuwl]

Looks a lot like Qnight, just a bit younger, we describe him as a Siamese looking cat. I read once that there are no true Black Siamese cats. Siamese have to have a specific color and black ain't it but they still have that gene's look and attitude.

He's a very sweet loving boy but he doesn't play, he kills. What ever toy we play with the other cats play with it but Qnight attacks and kills it. Once he grabs the toy its his and look out toy.....same goes for toes under the covers, if it looks like prey his claws go through sheets and blankets as if they weren't there.

Yes I seen that in him, his face is skinnier that Panda's.
Panda has a much more a lion like face.
Tho their brothers they have dif personalities.
Panda is laid back and will lay on the floor and let Sky (American Bully dog) lick him and sniff him
at least for a few seconds before he runs off.
Shady on the other hand will hiss and will not let Sky to close before striking out with claws out, lol.
Sky knows her boundries so stays out of range most of the time.
Sky wants to be friends but Shady says no way. lol

 

[Rootsruler]

Yes I seen that in him, his face is skinnier that Panda's.
Panda has a much more a lion like face.
Tho their brothers they have dif personalities.
Panda is laid back and will lay on the floor and let Sky (American Bully dog) lick him and sniff him
at least for a few seconds before he runs off.
Shady on the other hand will hiss and will not let Sky to close before striking out with claws out, lol.
Sky knows her boundries so stays out of range most of the time.
Sky wants to be friends but Shady says no way. lol

Grow some catnip in a pot. Don't let the cats see it or get to it until it's got some girth to it then unleash it on them by moving the pot into the center of the living room. You'll be amazed at how fast your cats become friends!!!

 

[Pipecarver]

I don't measure my stuff that way.
Runoff is not accurate with soil. Plain water through my soil was like 2000ppm~!
My 3-2-1 feeding is weight per gallon as all my nutes are dry.
I will say the hydro guys that are hitting it out of the park don't get their ppm over 750 ever much I have seen.
They fade at end under 400.

Grow some catnip in a pot. Don't let the cats see it or get to it until it's got some girth to it then unleash it on them by moving the pot into the center of the living room. You'll be amazed at how fast your cats become friends!!!

I grow cat grass for them in 1/2 gal pots. The last stuff after 6 days under my sf600 grass was 4 " tall. Today its about 8" tall. I bought a large bag at Christmas and its remarkable how fast it germinated and took off. I have 2 pots in the window starting to look like a hedge, cats love it.

I hadn't thought of growing cat nip, my wife buys small packs and lets them go wild.....I'll have a look and see what I can get......... anything for my 3 boys

 

[steamroller]

I gave away elbows of catnip last fall~!
Have plenty myself still.
Like spearmint catnip grows in my yard from past gardens. Both are like weeds in that if you don't kill/exterminate them they keep coming back~!

 

[Kuwl]

Idk I tried the epsom salts thing and did not work after a few of days of no improvement
I threw in 10 ml of Mag Pro and nothing.
Maybe worse, they also they slowed down their drinking from 2-2.5 inches down to .5-1 inch.
I hate the thought of doing another nute dump and changing the whole tank.
PPM with all the additives I put in is now at 1500, it went up 300 after I put in the ES, then another 200
after I put in the MP. High but not much burn, just a lil bit on the tips.
It's an on going problem thats getting worse by the day.
Even the QC White is feeling it.
Looks like a tank dump today.
I will be sucking out everything from the pots valve system also so that fresh nutes get in there right away.
Putting in Half of the nutrients called for to ease them into it.
I'll wait abit to see if anyone has a better idea or solution to this.
Maybe I'll wait till morning to do it as it might be better for the plants, until then I will switch tanks but
put only PH water in to clear out any old nutreints, I guess. what a pain!

 

[brettdawg]

You think cud be nute lockout?..
1500ppm quite high? Or do u always that high in autopots?

 

[brettdawg]

Im in autopots 800-900 ppm peak flower i use..
If they aint drinking much i check vpd. And check ec n ph of rez to see whats happening.with those.

 

[brettdawg]

When ive run dif strains on autopots ive always had one or two plants with problems because they wanted dif amount nutrients . Ive done it a few times. . This time round i got same strain. Just havented out this grow up been mega busy.Hopefully.u be bak on track soon.

 

[Kuwl]

You think cud be nute lockout?..
1500ppm quite high? Or do u always that high in autopots?

No but the Epson salts took it to another lvl
I do not count the extra ppm from the ES as it’s not a nutrient, just an additive that increased the ppm.
Now the extra MP I put in did raise it as I expected and there for the tip burn.
Not sure why the slow down in intake tho.
Seems they need Mag Pro cause of the leaf color

 

[Kuwl]

Im in autopots 800-900 ppm peak flower i use..
If they aint drinking much i check vpd. And check ec n ph of rez to see whats happening.with those.

Maybe N and S deficiency?

 

[brettdawg]

Maybe...
Hate keep dumping the rez. Waste of nutes. Have u cheked the ec of rez and ph?.

 

[brettdawg]

that leaf got red veing through middle?.

 

[Kuwl]

Maybe N and S deficiency?
View attachment 36923

Can’t wait, put in 1/2 dose of
Pro Tekt/Foilage Pro/Mag Pro/Bloom
PPM 400 PH 5.8
Checked the reseviors and they were good
Can only wait till tomorrow to see what happens.

 

[Kuwl]

that leaf got red veing through middle?.

Purple stem too

 

[Kuwl]

Maybe...
Hate keep dumping the rez. Waste of nutes. Have u cheked the ec of rez and ph?.

PH is 5.8 and PPM is 425 / EC .9
That's what I got in there atm
I took out the other high PPM rez tank and set it to the side till I figure this out.
Purple stems means not enough Magniesium or P not sure why tho.
Last week I looked at the stems and they were ok.
I seen the need for P when I first noticed the yellowing leaves and the simptoms of a deficiency and added that in.
Added MP also with no results.
Right now this is a low dose nutrient mix till tomorrow when I hope something will change.
Then I can add what's needed.

 

[GoodShit97]

Can’t wait, put in 1/2 dose of
Pro Tekt/Foilage Pro/Mag Pro/Bloom
PPM 400 PH 5.8
Checked the reseviors and they were good
Can only wait till tomorrow to see what happens.

Possible P lockout?
Take my advice with half a grain of salt cause diagnosis is my weakest spot, but 3 out of 4 of those nutrients have P in them. 2 of them being quite high. Im juat spitballing/brainstorming lol.
Tell me to kick rocks if ya want

 

[brettdawg]

PH is 5.8 and PPM is 425 / EC .9
That's what I got in there atm
I took out the other high PPM rez tank and set it to the side till I figure this out.
Purple stems means not enough Magniesium or P not sure why tho.
Last week I looked at the stems and they were ok.
I seen the need for P when I first noticed the yellowing leaves and the simptoms of a deficiency and added that in.
Added MP also with no results.
Right now this is a low dose nutrient mix till tomorrow when I hope something will change.
Then I can add what's needed.

i send picturres.over inabit of clones i got. They had red-pruple beins and leaves like urs. Calmag fixed them il look for photos now.

 

[brettdawg]

That was clones i received few months bak... got more photos cant find at min. Few people said a few different stuff. And was calmag. I foliar sprayed and added into feed. I show u a pic ten days later.
Found better one of the leaf

 

[brettdawg]

PH is 5.8 and PPM is 425 / EC .9
That's what I got in there atm
I took out the other high PPM rez tank and set it to the side till I figure this out.
Purple stems means not enough Magniesium or P not sure why tho.
Last week I looked at the stems and they were ok.
I seen the need for P when I first noticed the yellowing leaves and the simptoms of a deficiency and added that in.
Added MP also with no results.
Right now this is a low dose nutrient mix till tomorrow when I hope something will change.
Then I can add what's needed.

Yeh prob gd idea to change rez..
WHen u do your new rez. Monitor ec an ph over few days. If stil not drinking much and swing towards nute lockout.

 

[Pipecarver]

You think cud be nute lockout?..
1500ppm quite high? Or do u always that high in autopots?

I just checked mine last night for the first time this grow. I'm at 1345ppm and 5.8 ph. a bit lower than I expected. With the full concoction of nutes I'm using that seems low. I'm feeding Micro/Grow/bloom/KoolBloom/diamond Nectar, cal-mag.Florakleen,and peroxide and I wave my hand over my tank in a clockwise direction 3 times while slowly humming a low C tone......hummmmm.......weed makes me think I'm funny.

 

[brettdawg]

Purple stem too

Yeh magnesium

 

[Kuwl]

Yeh prob gd idea to change rez..
WHen u do your new rez. Monitor ec an ph over few days. If stil not drinking much and swing towards nute lockout.

ya that's what i'm gonna do and hope they don't lock out.

 

[Kuwl]

Possible P lockout?
Take my advice with half a grain of salt cause diagnosis is my weakest spot, but 3 out of 4 of those nutrients have P in them. 2 of them being quite high. Im juat spitballing/brainstorming lol.
Tell me to kick rocks if ya want

You might be right on that, I don't know what else it could be.
I know it says it needs mag but there should have been enough in there.
Wait an see what happens.