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Cool_Beans said:
That might be a challenge. There is a product called Linacoutsic, used for lining the inside of ductwork to prevent sound from traveling though them. It's good stuff and easy to work with. Your local HVAC supplier can probably get it. Makes good bass trap stuffing too if you layer it.

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good looking out!

that ledge is one of the rudest reflecting spots, too. on the red face, I'll be mounting acoustic foam to try and cut down on some of that behavior but otherwise, the height from floor to ceiling under the dropdown is like 7ft 1in so doesn't leave a whole of room do to anything else inside the office to deal with sound coming through the plenum. The plenum is wrapped in R20 from what I could tell while pulling the ethernet cabling, though, so there's some sound reduction in there.
 
Linacoustic is some really nice stuff. I've seen it in action and it does a really nice job of dropping DB.

I was thinking of using it for a DIY duct noise reducer for the tent but ACI sells them for $40 so not really worth the time.
 
tobh said:
good looking out!

that ledge is one of the rudest reflecting spots, too. on the red face, I'll be mounting acoustic foam to try and cut down on some of that behavior but otherwise, the height from floor to ceiling under the dropdown is like 7ft 1in so doesn't leave a whole of room do to anything else inside the office to deal with sound coming through the plenum. The plenum is wrapped in R20 from what I could tell while pulling the ethernet cabling, though, so there's some sound reduction in there.
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Can you install a 6" tube baffle that'll run horizontally along the roof/wall to reduce the 90's in the room? Same with your corners.
 
Rootsruler said:
Can you install a 6" tube baffle that'll run horizontally along the roof/wall to reduce the 90's in the room? Same with your corners.
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I didn't think about that. The fucked up thing about this room is three corners have doors. Two open inwards, and are right up on the perpendicular wall. so, I'm stuck with those corners. The one corner I can do anything with I'll be putting a bass trap at the bottom of. Around the edges of the ceiling and walls, I haven't quite decided yet as I think the boxes that'll be mounted to the ceiling should trap quite a bit of sound in them too.

i remember when I was like 10, my science fair project was very naively called "can sound be bent?" and my hypothesis was that no, the waves couldn't be "bent" in a traditional sense, but could be redirected by way of the echo effect. obviously, that proved to be a correct hypothesis, but that experiment, and the echo effect, get insanely complicated when talking about room acoustics lol
 
tobh said:
I didn't think about that. The fucked up thing about this room is three corners have doors. Two open inwards, and are right up on the perpendicular wall. so, I'm stuck with those corners. The one corner I can do anything with I'll be putting a bass trap at the bottom of. Around the edges of the ceiling and walls, I haven't quite decided yet as I think the boxes that'll be mounted to the ceiling should trap quite a bit of sound in them too.

i remember when I was like 10, my science fair project was very naively called "can sound be bent?" and my hypothesis was that no, the waves couldn't be "bent" in a traditional sense, but could be redirected by way of the echo effect. obviously, that proved to be a correct hypothesis, but that experiment, and the echo effect, get insanely complicated when talking about room acoustics lol
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So True. Same Audio Engineer I mentioned earlier said there are no perfect rooms. Only less compromised.
 
Cool_Beans said:
I always hear the same thing when I'm in a dead room. How bad is my tinnitus lol

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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i've wondered how bad my tinitus would be in this room, or if the weird air dynamics in it might impact the coclear nerve just right so that the tinnitus STFU for a minute.
 
tobh said:
i've wondered how bad my tinitus would be in this room, or if the weird air dynamics in it might impact the coclear nerve just right so that the tinnitus STFU for a minute.
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I know tinnitus is for real, but during one of my solo acid trips, my ears were really ringing. It took my attention away from all else and it started to sound like that hum of electronics, like a TV on in another room. What if that's just the sound of our brains!?
 
GrumpAzz said:
I know tinnitus is for real, but during one of my solo acid trips, my ears were really ringing. It took my attention away from all else and it started to sound like that hum of electronics, like a TV on in another room. What if that's just the sound of our brains!?
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technically, it is. Tinnitus is damage to the coclear nerve. That ringing you've heard after a single super loud sound or loud sound for a long duration? That's the sound of the nerves responsible for processing that particular frequency being dead. Your brain functions on a reverse signal voltage for sound, and tinnitus is caused by the nerves that have been damaged by excessive sounds or pressure which would return that signal voltage to the brain. your brain basically defaults to "i hear this" and you perceive hearing that ring, but it's not there. It's literally your brain.

I worked for an audiology business and learned this shit. don't like knowing it, but i do.

fucked up thing? there's no cure for tinnitus without a fairly aggressive surgery where they install an electrode into your skull and tap into that nerve to feed the brain the signal it's missing. It's fucked up.
 
tobh said:
technically, it is. Tinnitus is damage to the coclear nerve. That ringing you've heard after a single super loud sound or loud sound for a long duration? That's the sound of the nerves responsible for processing that particular frequency being dead. Your brain functions on a reverse signal voltage for sound, and tinnitus is caused by the nerves that have been damaged by excessive sounds or pressure which would return that signal voltage to the brain. your brain basically defaults to "i hear this" and you perceive hearing that ring, but it's not there. It's literally your brain.

I worked for an audiology business and learned this shit. don't like knowing it, but i do.

fucked up thing? there's no cure for tinnitus without a fairly aggressive surgery where they install an electrode into your skull and tap into that nerve to feed the brain the signal it's missing. It's fucked up.
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I’ll stick with the EEeeeeeeeereeee TYVM
 
tops from the plants being cloned for an unofficial trade. getting a riding lawn mower out of the deal, but the person giving me the mower doesn't know i'm the person that these clones will be coming from. gonna keep it that way.
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first time since college i've had a full rack of clones. we'll see if i can manage to not fuck this up.

the plants are looking good, they're chugging along. i have a mobile nutrient issue going on, a lot of the lower growth was yellow with brown spots, thinking it's likely a pH issue. just moving slow right now because i want the slabs heavily rooted before flipping to flower. as much as i want to drag it out till the end of october, i don't think the plants are going to support that, so i'll need to make up some concentrate and write out very clear, specific instructions for the lady to follow while i'm in nashville for the annual visit. unfortunately that's likely going to be during the first or second week of flower, so basically the time that a fuck up will make or break the grow.

all good otherwise. vpd is kinda fucky because i'm not keeping up with emptying the dehuey and temps are suffering as a result too. it is what it is, ya know! just another grow with all the issues we're used to battling.
 
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unfortunately that's likely going to be during the first or second week of flower, so basically the time that a fuck up will make or break the grow.
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Man.. I just wanna say.. don't let her know that if you haven't already. Don't bring pressure into the scenario.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Man.. I just wanna say.. don't let her know that if you haven't already. Don't bring pressure into the scenario.
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nah, she understands. i've been teaching her slowly over the past five years. res changes are her most nerve racking chore when she has to do them because she knows how critical it is to follow the instructions to the T. I know the 15 step process by memory, ya know, but she doesn't. given it's her medicine i'm growing, she also doesn't want to fuck it up.

i just gotta time the flip right, even if that means additional topping as my PK boost periods are pretty specific, as well as changes in fertigation schedule, so if i can land the nashville trip on week 1 of flower, that'd be perfect because it's the most "normal" moment in flower.
 
tobh said:
nah, she understands. i've been teaching her slowly over the past five years. res changes are her most nerve racking chore when she has to do them because she knows how critical it is to follow the instructions to the T. I know the 15 step process by memory, ya know, but she doesn't. given it's her medicine i'm growing, she also doesn't want to fuck it up.

i just gotta time the flip right, even if that means additional topping as my PK boost periods are pretty specific, as well as changes in fertigation schedule, so if i can land the nashville trip on week 1 of flower, that'd be perfect because it's the most "normal" moment in flower.
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Cool man. I just know that stressful situations can become so much more difficult with added pressure. It's really cool of you to be slowly showing her the ropes though. Trust is huge in a relationship and I'm sure she loves that you trust her enough to get her hands dirty with the plants.

My lady gets nervous when I'm at work and the plant needs a 5ml shot of up or down. She'll get the hang of it. It's all I talk about anymore 🤣.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Cool man. I just know that stressful situations can become so much more difficult with added pressure. It's really cool of you to be slowly showing her the ropes though. Trust is huge in a relationship and I'm sure she loves that you trust her enough to get her hands dirty with the plants.

My lady gets nervous when I'm at work and the plant needs a 5ml shot of up or down. She'll get the hang of it. It's all I talk about anymore 🤣.
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yeah, it's been a journey. i can't really say i trust her, because i don't. if she's proven anything she's consistently unreliable in every aspect of her life. but if i tell her exactly what needs done and when, it's a 50/50 she'll get it done, and 30/70 she'll get it done right. last year i was on a video call with her while she did the res top off because she was so nervous. will probably do the same this year.
 
tobh said:
yeah, it's been a journey. i can't really say i trust her, because i don't. if she's proven anything she's consistently unreliable in every aspect of her life. but if i tell her exactly what needs done and when, it's a 50/50 she'll get it done, and 30/70 she'll get it done right. last year i was on a video call with her while she did the res top off because she was so nervous. will probably do the same this year.
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You must be a hell of a dude 👊
 
really, the only reason she's here anymore is because i grew up never knowing my biological dad. mom was never home because she was working, basically raised myself. i don't want my son to grow up in either a single parent scenario nor not knowing one of his parents. breaking the cycle, even if it means angrily accepting a lot of things i don't tolerate from anyone else but his mother. i'm old school - word is bond and you do what you say you'll do. if you don't, fuck you, you have no room in my life. i've cut people off over insanely trivial shit, but this situation is all about damage control and ensuring my kids get plenty to eat, plenty of toys, new clothes and whatnot regularly -- basically the childhood i never had. and maybe, at some point, i'll get to have hobbies again once i have their mother trained to the point that she does everything i ask without me micromanaging.

sorry for the vent. it's a thing that's been a problem for a few years but with the laws, and me having a cock, this is the better alternative to paying for her rent while she fucks some dead beat and neglects the kids.
 
tobh said:
really, the only reason she's here anymore is because i grew up never knowing my biological dad. mom was never home because she was working, basically raised myself. i don't want my son to grow up in either a single parent scenario nor not knowing one of his parents. breaking the cycle, even if it means angrily accepting a lot of things i don't tolerate from anyone else but his mother. i'm old school - word is bond and you do what you say you'll do. if you don't, fuck you, you have no room in my life. i've cut people off over insanely trivial shit, but this situation is all about damage control and ensuring my kids get plenty to eat, plenty of toys, new clothes and whatnot regularly -- basically the childhood i never had. and maybe, at some point, i'll get to have hobbies again once i have their mother trained to the point that she does everything i ask without me micromanaging.

sorry for the vent. it's a thing that's been a problem for a few years but with the laws, and me having a cock, this is the better alternative to paying for her rent while she fucks some dead beat and neglects the kids.
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Fuckin' vent brother. No apology needed. Sucks to be in that sort of deal but you're doing right by your kids and that's as respectable as it gets. When I had my daughter I decided it's no longer my life. It's hers.

My only qualms with staying together for the kids is if you're not showing them what a healthy relationship is supposed to look like. Flipside of that coin is, they may see an unhealthy relationship and grow up knowing what they DON'T want.

I guess my point is as long as you're doing what you feel is best for your kids, you're doing it right. Nobody else can say how your kids should be raised and as long as dad loves them, they'll figure it out eventually.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Fuckin' vent brother. No apology needed. Sucks to be in that sort of deal but you're doing right by your kids and that's as respectable as it gets. When I had my daughter I decided it's no longer my life. It's hers.

My only qualms with staying together for the kids is if you're not showing them what a healthy relationship is supposed to look like. Flipside of that coin is, they may see an unhealthy relationship and grow up knowing what they DON'T want.

I guess my point is as long as you're doing what you feel is best for your kids, you're doing it right. Nobody else can say how your kids should be raised and as long as dad loves them, they'll figure it out eventually.
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you nailed it -- the unhealthy relationship thing. that's my biggest fear with my stepdaughter is that she's learning that a man will do literally everything and she can just float by doing nothing. that's the exact opposite i want her to do. i want her to be so independent she terrifies any man that approaches her. whereas my son is learning the man does everything, which i'm somewhat ok with, but i don't want him engaging in this same kind of enabling behavior with toxic partners.

i have some cards up my sleeve i'm sorting out because i'm not 100% and it's not fair to the kids, but I gotta play CYA to get back to 100%.

kids just complicate shit so much man. if it weren't for them, their mother would've been gone five years ago. probably wouldn't remember her name anymore. but, this is the bed i made and i sleep in it every night because that's what a fucking man does. whether a good, bad, or stupid man does is a whole other topic, but it's what a man does.
 
tobh said:
you nailed it -- the unhealthy relationship thing. that's my biggest fear with my stepdaughter is that she's learning that a man will do literally everything and she can just float by doing nothing. that's the exact opposite i want her to do. i want her to be so independent she terrifies any man that approaches her. whereas my son is learning the man does everything, which i'm somewhat ok with, but i don't want him engaging in this same kind of enabling behavior with toxic partners.

i have some cards up my sleeve i'm sorting out because i'm not 100% and it's not fair to the kids, but I gotta play CYA to get back to 100%.

kids just complicate shit so much man. if it weren't for them, their mother would've been gone five years ago. probably wouldn't remember her name anymore. but, this is the bed i made and i sleep in it every night because that's what a fucking man does. whether a good, bad, or stupid man does is a whole other topic, but it's what a man does.
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Right there with ya man. I'm so lucky to have not had kids with my first wife.

You got it, though, dude. Keep your head up and try your best. That's all you can do.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Right there with ya man. I'm so lucky to have not had kids with my first wife.

You got it, though, dude. Keep your head up and try your best. That's all you can do.
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it's all about the smile and nod bud. it's a perfected skill over time. almost like a stint in jail, bite your tongue, mind your business, and wait for freedom.

it's not all bad, and she's not a bad woman. she's just a shitty person that came from shitty circumstances. doesn't know how to grab opportunity when it's right in front of her and take advantage of that. when she's on it, she's a great mom. problem is that's once a month at best. the rest of the time she's either stoned out of her mind or sleeping for days at a time. she can't take feedback or even simple requests without taking them as a personal attack, which leads to an argument -- a cycle i no longer engage in because, ain't nobody got time for that.

i'm sure she is someone's perfect match. just not mine. i want an unattainable woman, someone that's driven and critical of me and could easily do without me. someone that's not here because they have no other option but because they want to be here. someone that inspires and pushes me to do even better. not to toot my own horn, but i've done exceedingly well given my history. and maybe i'm too critical of others as a result. really, it probably is all me and she's a perfect person, my expectations are just too much.
 
tobh said:
i'm sure she is someone's perfect match. just not mine. i want an unattainable woman, someone that's driven and critical of me and could easily do without me. someone that's not here because they have no other option but because they want to be here. someone that inspires and pushes me to do even better. not to toot my own horn, but i've done exceedingly well given my history. and maybe i'm too critical of others as a result. really, it probably is all me and she's a perfect person, my expectations are just too much.
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That last bit made me all watery, man. I need to make sure I tell my lady how much I appreciate her in the morning. She's always up my ass, but for the right reasons.

I don't know if I can give you any encouragement because I'm pretty fortunate with my relationship. Like a rich dude telling a broke dude to just get a better job.

Either way, I feel for ya man and you're hard work and dedication has to pay off. Those kids of yours will grow up and love the shit out of you, man.
 
GrumpAzz said:
That last bit made me all watery, man. I need to make sure I tell my lady how much I appreciate her in the morning. She's always up my ass, but for the right reasons.

I don't know if I can give you any encouragement because I'm pretty fortunate with my relationship. Like a rich dude telling a broke dude to just get a better job.

Either way, I feel for ya man and you're hard work and dedication has to pay off. Those kids of yours will grow up and love the shit out of you, man.
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appreciate the holding back encouragement. i tend to be adverse to the types that use their situation to relate to mine.

tbh that's a huge fissure in my own relationship -- i'll try to vent and she'll drop a story that sounds "worse" than mine and, well, i'm not competitive or trying to piss further with problems. just listen and if you have some advice that doesn't entail a problem you faced that's worse than the topic i'm positing, then i'll hear it. otherwise, just shut up and hear me out.

i'm a solutions type. if i have a problem my brain can't deal with internally, talking it through uninterrupted tends to yield a few options. i'm not looking for story time back and forth about this time when, just looking for a silent sounding board until asked for input. she just operates different. we're also about 60 IQ points different. i'm ridiculously intelligent, to the point of having mental health issues and learning issues due to it, and she's didn't pass high school because of damn near disability. comes back to the my previous post. she's got fantastic assets, if you know what i'm saying, and that's what attracted me (i'm still a man), but never intended on a life sentence to dealing with someone that can't read time nor follow a basic shopping list. she's perfect for someone, i'm just not that someone.

tbh, i'm not even in this relationship anymore. i've done my grieving and recovery. i know what i'm after. just need to play my CYA so I can move forward and give the kiddos all of me. bet whoever, or whomever, is next, won't meet them until I'm serious about them. they're not going to deal with instability with me. and that will ensure they love me when they're hateful teenagers and confused 20 somethings.
 
tobh said:
appreciate the holding back encouragement. i tend to be adverse to the types that use their situation to relate to mine.

tbh that's a huge fissure in my own relationship -- i'll try to vent and she'll drop a story that sounds "worse" than mine and, well, i'm not competitive or trying to piss further with problems. just listen and if you have some advice that doesn't entail a problem you faced that's worse than the topic i'm positing, then i'll hear it. otherwise, just shut up and hear me out.

i'm a solutions type. if i have a problem my brain can't deal with internally, talking it through uninterrupted tends to yield a few options. i'm not looking for story time back and forth about this time when, just looking for a silent sounding board until asked for input. she just operates different. we're also about 60 IQ points different. i'm ridiculously intelligent, to the point of having mental health issues and learning issues due to it, and she's didn't pass high school because of damn near disability. comes back to the my previous post. she's got fantastic assets, if you know what i'm saying, and that's what attracted me (i'm still a man), but never intended on a life sentence to dealing with someone that can't read time nor follow a basic shopping list. she's perfect for someone, i'm just not that someone.

tbh, i'm not even in this relationship anymore. i've done my grieving and recovery. i know what i'm after. just need to play my CYA so I can move forward and give the kiddos all of me. bet whoever, or whomever, is next, won't meet them until I'm serious about them. they're not going to deal with instability with me. and that will ensure they love me when they're hateful teenagers and confused 20 somethings.
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You're on the right track man. A positive outlook is about all you can have at this point, and it sounds like you're on the right track. Keeping the kids in the forefront of your mind is most important and that seems to be what you're doing.

Just hang in there bro. You're doing good.
 
tobh said:
tops from the plants being cloned for an unofficial trade. getting a riding lawn mower out of the deal, but the person giving me the mower doesn't know i'm the person that these clones will be coming from. gonna keep it that way.
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first time since college i've had a full rack of clones. we'll see if i can manage to not fuck this up.

the plants are looking good, they're chugging along. i have a mobile nutrient issue going on, a lot of the lower growth was yellow with brown spots, thinking it's likely a pH issue. just moving slow right now because i want the slabs heavily rooted before flipping to flower. as much as i want to drag it out till the end of october, i don't think the plants are going to support that, so i'll need to make up some concentrate and write out very clear, specific instructions for the lady to follow while i'm in nashville for the annual visit. unfortunately that's likely going to be during the first or second week of flower, so basically the time that a fuck up will make or break the grow.

all good otherwise. vpd is kinda fucky because i'm not keeping up with emptying the dehuey and temps are suffering as a result too. it is what it is, ya know! just another grow with all the issues we're used to battling.
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I think I'm only going to do my growing indoors during the cooler months from now on, humidity has been a real challenge this summer.
 
tobh said:
appreciate the holding back encouragement. i tend to be adverse to the types that use their situation to relate to mine.

tbh that's a huge fissure in my own relationship -- i'll try to vent and she'll drop a story that sounds "worse" than mine and, well, i'm not competitive or trying to piss further with problems. just listen and if you have some advice that doesn't entail a problem you faced that's worse than the topic i'm positing, then i'll hear it. otherwise, just shut up and hear me out.

i'm a solutions type. if i have a problem my brain can't deal with internally, talking it through uninterrupted tends to yield a few options. i'm not looking for story time back and forth about this time when, just looking for a silent sounding board until asked for input. she just operates different. we're also about 60 IQ points different. i'm ridiculously intelligent, to the point of having mental health issues and learning issues due to it, and she's didn't pass high school because of damn near disability. comes back to the my previous post. she's got fantastic assets, if you know what i'm saying, and that's what attracted me (i'm still a man), but never intended on a life sentence to dealing with someone that can't read time nor follow a basic shopping list. she's perfect for someone, i'm just not that someone.

tbh, i'm not even in this relationship anymore. i've done my grieving and recovery. i know what i'm after. just need to play my CYA so I can move forward and give the kiddos all of me. bet whoever, or whomever, is next, won't meet them until I'm serious about them. they're not going to deal with instability with me. and that will ensure they love me when they're hateful teenagers and confused 20 somethings.
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Sounds like you're looking for someone to walk beside you not behind.
 
tobh said:
breaking the cycle, even if it means angrily accepting a lot of things i don't tolerate from anyone else but his mother. i'm old school - word is bond and you do what you say you'll do. if you don't, fuck you, you have no room in my life. i've cut people off over insanely trivial shit, but this situation is all about damage control and ensuring my kids get plenty to eat, plenty
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I am the same way.
 
tobh said:
yeah, that's a good way of putting it. a partnership isn't one person dragging the other along through life, but two people working together towards a mutually beneficial outcome.
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I think of it more as someone that not only challenges you but also lifts you up and is aware of your needs as much as they are theirs. When both partners can complement each other by propping up their partners weaknesses with their strength it's tough to beat that kind of partnership.
 
tobh said:
appreciate the holding back encouragement. i tend to be adverse to the types that use their situation to relate to mine.

tbh that's a huge fissure in my own relationship -- i'll try to vent and she'll drop a story that sounds "worse" than mine and, well, i'm not competitive or trying to piss further with problems. just listen and if you have some advice that doesn't entail a problem you faced that's worse than the topic i'm positing, then i'll hear it. otherwise, just shut up and hear me out.

i'm a solutions type. if i have a problem my brain can't deal with internally, talking it through uninterrupted tends to yield a few options. i'm not looking for story time back and forth about this time when, just looking for a silent sounding board until asked for input. she just operates different. we're also about 60 IQ points different. i'm ridiculously intelligent, to the point of having mental health issues and learning issues due to it, and she's didn't pass high school because of damn near disability. comes back to the my previous post. she's got fantastic assets, if you know what i'm saying, and that's what attracted me (i'm still a man), but never intended on a life sentence to dealing with someone that can't read time nor follow a basic shopping list. she's perfect for someone, i'm just not that someone.

tbh, i'm not even in this relationship anymore. i've done my grieving and recovery. i know what i'm after. just need to play my CYA so I can move forward and give the kiddos all of me. bet whoever, or whomever, is next, won't meet them until I'm serious about them. they're not going to deal with instability with me. and that will ensure they love me when they're hateful teenagers and confused 20 somethings.
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Man the intelligence difference too is aggravating ..
 
Moe.Red said:
Man this thread is deep.

I'd be a very different person if I did not have a partner. I feel fortunate.

Can't imagine how frustrating that must be.

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yeah, i kinda went off the deep end with the personal shit, but figure it's all part of what forums like this are for. having a broader perspective of who a person is can glean indescribable details about the hows and whys a grow is ran the way it is.

plus, i have like zero social life outside of this forum, so y'all get to deal with my random bitching and moaning lol
 
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