tobh's troll cave

[GrumpAzz]

If you were under 1% you'd be dead. You're likely around 4-5%.

sound a lot like my best friend back in NM. same trade -- master electrician. Tall, lenghty motherfucker. wouldn't think he could hurt a fly but I've watched him tune people up in real bad ways. y'all tough

I'm probably about 8%. 5'6" 143lbs. goal is to lose another 8lbs, or stay steady but lose the remaining "dad bod." was at 170lbs last year. fuckin gross.

My fat's all in my brain. Trust me bro

 

[Observer]

different media, different nutrients, different environments.

if i followed the vendor's charts, i would be somewhere around 2.5 EC, but they themselves state on their feed charts that they're insanely general and each grow is different, cater feed to the situation and ignore their charts once you're familiar with the parts.

I only reference their charts for baseline numbers at this point, and that's only when i forget wtf i fed last or changing to a different phase of growth. even then, it's a baseline. the chart is more a "oh yeah, i looked at the 3.5g/gal column last time" and probably do more like 2.8g/gal.

last grow I don't think I ever exceeded 1.8 EC and that was at week 5 of flower. Even that felt high but the plants took it and I've learned with the higher intensity LEDs (mine are getting aged now) you gotta bump everything up -- temps, RH, and feed -- otherwise you run into calcium issues in some form. Shit is a constant battle man. even this grow, i have fucking calcium def already, and also some burn but that's because I've been low energy and not on my game like I should be

never followed a feed chart or schedule, just how to mix the nutrients/E.C bit, ofc when i get it automated i will devise one.

so some dry backs have happened driving EC through the roof in the media. that's probably where my pH problems are coming from along with the VPD being abysmal. Plants can't do shit when its 71F and RH is 80%+.

think thats also what happened with mine a month or so i was just ready to move and not properly watering them, let alone switching nutrients and not able to actually read my pH.

at some point i might run on their feed schedule and see what happens. I just haven't found a reason to, tbh. Maybe I could hit or surpass my goals if I just did a full send. Not really my style though.

if u spent the focus on it im sure you would.

I read plants, not feed charts.

im getting pretty comfortable with reading the plants now, not too familiar with ratios and requirements though and these new-to-me salts, JRCROPTECH 9-17-28




im just picking one and running with it right now lol

 

[tobh]

Jacks is the shit man. That was the salts i started with, and tried to go with again but the hydro shop i last picked up nutrients at didn't have them. they had front row ag, and highly recommended it.

i'm glad they did. shit is stupid simple to use and manipulate as needed, and the manufacturer customer service is fucking incredible. they don't care if you're a 1k plant LGO or a lowly six plant hobbyist. they treat you all you the same, and respond all the same. you talk to a regional rep when you need help, someone you can shake hands with if you want. i never experienced this with jacks, canna, or gh. all of which i spent several years running.

i'm not paid by those cats, nor have any benefit of saying they sell good shit. this is my opinion. are there better, cheaper offerings? fuck yeah there are. do they match the quality and ease of use you get from this company? nah. sorry, i'm not a chemist and i'm not trying to blend my own salts off some disparate recipes online nor am i trying to get into having 50lbs of various components meant for big ag sitting in a corner somewhere, waiting to become an unintended explosive.

this shit works for me.

 

[Observer]

Jacks is the shit man. That was the salts i started with, and tried to go with again but the hydro shop i last picked up nutrients at didn't have them. they had front row ag, and highly recommended it.

same thats when i got into the 3-2-1 thing from the bill farthing thread just the year or so ago, cheap af way to grow.

i would definitely do the jacks again, was just cheaper at a store near me than amazon and then i ran out and didnt have my car so tried the next cheapest 5-12-26 and fuck that shit, bad storage or bad nutrient mix in general. arrived clumpy and shit

i'm glad they did. shit is stupid simple to use and manipulate as needed, and the manufacturer customer service is fucking incredible. they don't care if you're a 1k plant LGO or a lowly six plant hobbyist. they treat you all you the same, and respond all the same. you talk to a regional rep when you need help, someone you can shake hands with if you want. i never experienced this with jacks, canna, or gh. all of which i spent several years running.

thats nice, ive heard good things about FrontRowAG maybe ill try them down the line.

i'm not paid by those cats, nor have any benefit of saying they sell good shit. this is my opinion. are there better, cheaper offerings? fuck yeah there are. do they match the quality and ease of use you get from this company? nah. sorry, i'm not a chemist and i'm not trying to blend my own salts off some disparate recipes online nor am i trying to get into having 50lbs of various components meant for big ag sitting in a corner somewhere, waiting to become an unintended explosive.

this shit works for me.

i like to pretend im a chemist, lol.

 

[Observer]

i guess 15-0-0 + JRCROPTECH 9-17-26

makes 24-17-26 sounds odd like anthem said but supposedly these are formulated from cannabis plants for cannabis plants by cannabis plants, lol.

 

[tobh]

same thats when i got into the 3-2-1 thing from the bill farther thread just the year or so ago, cheap af way to grow.

i would definitely do the jacks again, was just cheaper at a store near me than amazon and then i ran out and didnt have my car so tried the next cheapest 5-12-26 and fuck that shit, bad storage or bad nutrient mix in general. arrived clumpy and shit

thats nice, ive heard good things about FrontRowAG maybe ill try them down the line.

i like to pretend im a chemist, lol.

dude, people knock miracle grow all the time, but their water soluble shit is damn good too. you just need an EC meter to work with it. when I was partially homeless (homebase my mom's house, couch surfing otherwise), i used their one part and grew some fantastic weed. i think that bag cost like $10 and lasted three grows.

salts at the cats elbows, man.

 

[tobh]

i guess 15-0-0 + JRCROPTECH 9-17-26

makes 24-17-26 sounds odd like anthem said but supposedly these are formulated from cannabis plants for cannabis plants by cannabis plants, lol.

the ratio comes from other annual fruit bearers, like tomatoes. that same ratio is very common with cucumbers and tomatoes.

 

[Observer]

Nevermind. Carry on folks

i want to make my own shatter, i dont really see it in any dispos

was getting 5 grams for 25$ of some nice orange/yellow shatter, no more =(

 

[Observer]

dude, people knock miracle grow all the time, but their water soluble shit is damn good too. you just need an EC meter to work with it. when I was partially homeless (homebase my mom's house, couch surfing otherwise), i used their one part and grew some fantastic weed. i think that bag cost like $10 and lasted three grows.

im just burned from their fucking perlite bags that come contaminated with all sorts of other shit lol.

i did like the solubillity of jacks, like the jrcroptech powder too, other shit i tried was "extra" to dissolve.

ill probably be using this jrcroptech till im out and then go back to jacks or so whatever is cheapest or seemed to do the most i suppose.

till i really get a handle on reading the plants and the like, ratios etc.

salts at the cats elbows, man.

agree, i do like it a lot better compared to soil and not getting ripped off water with some salts from the green stores, and its cheap AF goes a long way for little tent grows.

 

[tobh]

im just burned from their fucking perlite bags that come contaminated with all sorts of other shit lol.

nah man. i'm talking the miracle grow salts. the shit they sell for hose end feeders. that's their salts. comes in a little box, think it's like a lb or two of nutes.

it's really fucking solid.

despite the brand, salts is salts. I don't care of Monsanto has thing fingers up the creator's ass, hitting the happy button, if the shit works, it works and the plants don't give two shits who made it.

as long as the pH is right, the ratios are right, they'll eat it.

 

[Observer]

nah man. i'm talking the miracle grow salts. the shit they sell for hose end feeders. that's their salts. comes in a little box, think it's like a lb or two of nutes.

it's really fucking solid.

despite the brand, salts is salts. I don't care of Monsanto has thing fingers up the creator's ass, hitting the happy button, if the shit works, it works and the plants don't give two shits who made it.

as long as the pH is right, the ratios are right, they'll eat it.

the 420 miracle-grow solo grow.

fuck around and find out.

i still want to do that.

 

[tobh]

the 420 miracle-grow solo grow.

fuck around and find out.

i still want to do that.

if you're curious how it performs, simply google tobh's 2sqft box.

i ran one part miracle grow salts through that entire thing with the exception of moab. that thread is from about the time i began my homeless journey for a few years.

 

[Observer]

ok i was looking at em and thought this was funny,

for new growers

lol



here ya go tobh, maybe u wont have to worry as much about em






but yea i gotcha, the company has just left a bad taste in my mouth getting contaminated bags from em.

 

[Observer]

if you're curious how it performs, simply google tobh's 2sqft box.

i ran one part miracle grow salts through that entire thing with the exception of moab. that thread is from about the time i began my homeless journey for a few years.

sweet, im looking at it.

pretty clean little grow box esp considering the circumstances, cool to see how much one has grown huh ?

it is very therapeutic for me....anyone who attacks my hobby gets a talkin

 

[tobh]

View attachment 24341ok i was looking at em and thought this was funny,

for new growers

lol

View attachment 24342

here ya go tobh, maybe u wont have to worry as much about em






but yea i gotcha, the company has just left a bad taste in my mouth getting contaminated bags from em.

funny they're selling that shit now. we used to bury diapers in our holes in the desert for guerilla grows. like, a box of diapers. kept us from having to be out there to water weekly, could make monthly visits.

heard some horror stories about those crystals when they first came out though. growers filling up holes with em, ending up having the crystals swelling and push plants right out of the hole lol big ol mess to clean up when you're trying to be covert. we always soaked the diapers on the way to the spot so they were ready to go lol

 

[tobh]

sweet, im looking at it.

pretty clean little grow box esp considering the circumstances, cool to see how much one has grown huh ?

it is very therapeutic for me....anyone who attacks my hobby gets a talkin

box cost like $50 to build. pulled about 2lbs out of it over its lifetime with me. peaked at 1/4lb a harvest. was an unkind period in life. post college days -- those grows are documented elsewhere on icmag and grasscity, but that moment in life, as primitive as it was, i feel helps me relate with your current experience.

i was 25 when i cut that thread. was not a good few years that followed.

 

[Observer]

box cost like $50 to build. pulled about 2lbs out of it over its lifetime with me. peaked at 1/4lb a harvest. was an unkind period in life. post college days -- those grows are documented elsewhere on icmag and grasscity, but that moment in life, as primitive as it was, i feel helps me relate with your current experience.

i was 25 when i cut that thread. was not a good few years that followed.

indeed, i see it, 26 now almost 27, was briefly homeless 23-24 or so. and now here.

little different order and whatever events occured.

but thats also why im relating to you so much, seems we have SOME atleast, "similar-life-steps"

and interest as well, and possible benefit of each others experiences, and similar tendencies/human behavior


"Similar path, knowledge I don't have"..

 

[Observer]

12-24 hours later

Looking fine still.

The seed looks cracked open on the side, line of white.

Sweet, within 24hrs pop.

 

[tobh]

indeed, i see it, 26 now almost 27, was briefly homeless 23-24 or so. and now here.

little different order and whatever events occured.

but thats also why im relating to you so much, seems we have SOME atleast, "similar-life-steps"

and interest as well, and possible benefit of each others experiences, and similar tendencies/human behavior


"Similar path, knowledge I don't have"..

 

[Observer]

Exactly

 

[Observer]

Man this fucking spider is supposedly a black widow I tried to kill it once cause of that fact but now it's back and build it's home back cause I failed the first time and now I feel bad

Lmao

What do I do

I mean the fucker is probably eating fungus gnats and any roaches but what if it is a black widow, grows bigger and bites violet when she's running around and fucks around in the bathroom?

Usually not allowed in here but shit happens.

 

[tobh]

 

[Observer]

Spotify on my laptop playing music, my phone playing music, a movie on, reading something, watching a YouTube video.

No wonder ADD lol

 

[tobh]

Man this fucking spider is supposedly a black widow I tried to kill it once cause of that fact but now it's back and build it's home back cause I failed the first time and now I feel bad

Lmao

What do I do

I mean the fucker is probably eating fungus gnats and any roaches but what if it is a black widow, grows bigger and bites violet when she's running around and fucks around in the bathroom?

Usually not allowed in here but shit happens.

that's a brown widow. lesser evil, but still dangerous for children under 3 years old. relocate it. the web they spin is stronger than kevlar, but a drinking glass will push right through it. just capture it with a pint glass, slide a paper over the top and relocate her outside away from the house.

 

[tobh]

Spotify on my laptop playing music, my phone playing music, a movie on, reading something, watching a YouTube video.

No wonder ADD lol

distill sir. too many sources of stimulation increases psychosis. you need one stream of input at a time, not five. music + reading is simple, music isn't primary input, but THAT... overstimulation.

 

[Observer]

that's a brown widow. lesser evil, but still dangerous for children under 3 years old. relocate it. the web they spin is stronger than kevlar, but a drinking glass will push right through it. just capture it with a pint glass, slide a paper over the top and relocate her outside away from the house.

thats fuckin cool, thanks again for the 411 tobh.

 

[Observer]

distill sir. too many sources of stimulation increases psychosis. you need one stream of input at a time, not five. music + reading is simple, music isn't primary input, but THAT... overstimulation.

this is how ive been since my teens man, not wrong though of course.
was huge on competitive gaming. fuckin 1000 APM


its a curse and a benefit, as i think of it in way of digesting multiple inputs at once, ergo more information at once = accelerated learning esp combined with hands on experience/Trial & Error

defintely alot of stimulation for a mind right there.


thats when i close everything out and refocus.

sleep deprivation + alcohol + weed + nicotine as well.

 

[tobh]

this is how ive been since my teens man

its a curse and a benefit, as i think of it in way of digesting multiple inputs at once, ergo more information at once = accelerated learning esp combined with hands on experience/Trial & Error

defintely alot of stimulation for a mind right there.


thats when i close everything out and refocus.

sleep deprivation + alcohol + weed + nicotine as well.

i used to be the same way. that's why i have the career i do, tbh, despite all odds against me. but i've learned how to control the ebb and flow and keeping the inputs (my control) to a manageable level, keeps burnout or blow ups from coming so fast.

 

[Observer]

very true evidently, some minds be running at 0.5ghz and some 5.0 ghz

i used to be the same way. that's why i have the career i do, tbh, despite all odds against me. but i've learned how to control the ebb and flow and keeping the inputs (my control) to a manageable level, keeps burnout or blow ups from coming so fast.

Balance & Contrast

 

[Observer]

and sometimes the weed fuckin calms that shit all down

 

[Observer]

and then keeping track of the 10s of other variables, like my plants, watering etc, security around the place, daughter/"wife" are ok etc

and whatever else im thinking about/working on

 

[Observer]

the fact that is also looked fucked up on the legs from my failed attempt made me all sensitive about it + the drugs lmao

and fuckin psychedelic experiences, ever since then taking any life has been viewed differently.

i could not eat a chicken sandwich while tripping, lol.

 

[tobh]

so, this is my ivory tower and i'll take any hate for it.

weed has been shown to increase psychosis and depression.

psychosis is defined as feelings of anxiety, stress, paranoia, and delusions.

alcohol has very much similar effects, albeit a significant suppression of inhibitions.

kk, i'm off the soapbox.

that being said, i'll get to the core of today's preaching: take care of yourself bud. eat as healthy as you can, get whatever intense exercise you can, and make at minimum 10 minutes of time a day sacred for you to find silence and you time. My preferred method for that last? A bath. some epsom salts, some bubbles, a beer, and a candle can be the difference between a shit day and a shit day with a good end. My guy @Dirtbag can attest to the power of a really nicely made bath. It's even better if someone sharing a wall with the tub can hear your farts. Water amplifies sound and ripping a good one isn't only satisfying but if you have an audience, you can get standing ovations for it.

 

[Observer]

so, this is my ivory tower and i'll take any hate for it.

weed has been shown to increase psychosis and depression.

psychosis is defined as feelings of anxiety, stress, paranoia, and delusions.

alcohol has very much similar effects, albeit a significant suppression of inhibitions.

oh yeah man ive read about it. definitely observable in me perhaps, i started the shit when i was 10 or 11, easy access from high school siblings.
it has its drawbacks too as does everything.

kk, i'm off the soapbox.

that being said, i'll get to the core of today's preaching: take care of yourself bud. eat as healthy as you can, get whatever intense exercise you can, and make at minimum 10 minutes of time a day sacred for you to find silence and you time. My preferred method for that last? A bath. some epsom salts, some bubbles, a beer, and a candle can be the difference between a shit day and a shit day with a good end. My guy @Dirtbag can attest to the power of a really nicely made bath.

Appreciate you and our chats man, been a good outlet as well so i appreciate you for that too.

It's even better if someone sharing a wall with the tub can hear your farts. Water amplifies sound and ripping a good one isn't only satisfying but if you have an audience, you can get standing ovations for it.

lmao, cant skip bath time.

night man, thank ya.

 

[Dirtbag]

so, this is my ivory tower and i'll take any hate for it.

weed has been shown to increase psychosis and depression.

psychosis is defined as feelings of anxiety, stress, paranoia, and delusions.

alcohol has very much similar effects, albeit a significant suppression of inhibitions.

kk, i'm off the soapbox.

that being said, i'll get to the core of today's preaching: take care of yourself bud. eat as healthy as you can, get whatever intense exercise you can, and make at minimum 10 minutes of time a day sacred for you to find silence and you time. My preferred method for that last? A bath. some epsom salts, some bubbles, a beer, and a candle can be the difference between a shit day and a shit day with a good end. My guy @Dirtbag can attest to the power of a really nicely made bath. It's even better if someone sharing a wall with the tub can hear your farts. Water amplifies sound and ripping a good one isn't only satisfying but if you have an audience, you can get standing ovations for it.

Haha fuck, did I tell you about the farts in the bath? My bathroom shares a wall with both our bedroom and my daughter's bedroom so I get the pleasure of impressing both of them when it happens. Nothing quite like the sound of a huge fart underwater resonating through the tub.

And yes man, half cut baths were literally the only thing that got me through the insanity that was the vaccine passport phase of the pandemic.

 

[Observer]

Thus, Underwater DIrtbag.

 

[Dirtbag]

Not Aqua-Bag again...

 

[tobh]

Haha fuck, did I tell you about the farts in the bath? My bathroom shares a wall with both our bedroom and my daughter's bedroom so I get the pleasure of impressing both of them when it happens. Nothing quite like the sound of a huge fart underwater resonating through the tub.

And yes man, baths were literally the only thing that got me through the insanity that was the vaccine passport phase of the pandemic.

didn't mean to roll you like that but i've had my own comments both from the old place and where we're at now.

there's nothing quite like hitting that perfect relax point and just letting all that gas out though. the gut feels amazing and the sound... fuck, it's something else. fuck the audience and their commentary.

 

[Observer]

didn't mean to roll you like that but i've had my own comments both from the old place and where we're at now.

i member

there's nothing quite like hitting that perfect relax point and just letting all that gas out though. the gut feels amazing and the sound... fuck, it's something else. fuck the audience and their commentary.

 

[Dirtbag]

didn't mean to roll you like that but i've had my own comments both from the old place and where we're at now.

there's nothing quite like hitting that perfect relax point and just letting all that gas out though. the gut feels amazing and the sound... fuck, it's something else. fuck the audience and their commentary.

That's too funny. I know I've shard my bathtime adventures but couldn't remember if I included the fart times. Knew I wasn't alone on the enjoyment that arrises from it.