First Time.

[GrumpAzz]

Are you using far red light, by any chance? It seems to give me those long petioles.

I'm using a SpiderFarmer SE5000.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Today's update. PH has been dropping .1 every couple hours. I threw in a splash of the Agsil solution I mixed the night before. Brought it up to 5.9.

I've been wondering about whether or not the buffer expired after reading a little of that pH thread. It remained stable for a couple weeks. Either way, a res change is in order, so I mixed a new Agsil batch with .5 grams/gal. It's pH sits around 9.7. I'll let that sit overnight and mix a new batch of nutes tomorrow sometime.

I ordered a lunch tray that should fit the tote perfectly. If not, I've got another idea that could work.

Anyway... here she is this fine evening.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Morning update. Bumped the light up to 25%. I'm gonna make a pot of coffee and mix a batch of nutes. The Agsil solution has sat for over 12 hours. Time to get mixin'

 

[GrumpAzz]

So the Agsil solution had a pH of 9+ last night. After sitting for 12 hours, it's down to 7.5. EC pen shows 0 ppms? I'm gonna throw in a couple more grams and mix for a bit. Maybe around lunch I'll be able to mix up some nutes. Last time I mixed, the Agsil only sat for four hours. Buffer held well for a week or two.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Found this mixing tray at the same place I bought the totes. Seemed to fit on the one they had in the store so I'm gonna figure out how to make this work. I'm afraid it may come down too far on the tote and run into my plumbing. It's got about a 6" lip around it.

 

[Zen_seeker]

Was going to say I found these at the dollar store. But don’t know the size you need. Handles at each end so a tray but looks like in/out tray.

I like the size of yours better though.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Final product. I shut the lights off and ran with the light outside the tent. Made the swap really quick with the lady's help. Roots looking really good. Some a foot long or better. It doesn't fit perfectly flush so I'm slightly concerned with light coming back up from underneath. Are my concerns warranted?

 

[Aqua Man]

Final product. I shut the lights off and ran with the light outside the tent. Made the swap really quick with the lady's help. Roots looking really good. Some a foot long or better. It doesn't fit perfectly flush so I'm slightly concerned with light coming back up from underneath. Are my concerns warranted?
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Nothing some tape wont fix

 

[GrumpAzz]

Nothing some tape wont fix

Will that make checking in on the roots more difficult?

 

[Zen_seeker]

Cool. Eyebolts for LST or something else?

If it’s just light you could put a skirt over it after the lid. Green garbage bag at a minimum?

AM noted tape. Duct tape around the outside, then same on inside to make a better/tighter fit. Still a skit though.

Just fishing...

 

[Aqua Man]

Will that make checking in on the roots more difficult?

Lift the whole lid to check

 

[GrumpAzz]

Lift the whole lid to check

That's what I've been doing but this new lid isn't fitting tight onto the tote. It's close but not completely uniform. I'm not understanding how tape will help with light inrusion while still allowing me to lift the lid.

Roots looked awesome so maybe the need to check on them isn't as necessary anymore?

 

[Aqua Man]

That's what I've been doing but this new lid isn't fitting tight onto the tote. It's close but not completely uniform. I'm not understanding how tape will help with light inrusion while still allowing me to lift the lid.

Roots looked awesome so maybe the need to check on them isn't as necessary anymore?

Can you take some pics from further back so i can see it better

 

[GrumpAzz]

Can you take some pics from further back so i can see it better

It's just that mixing tray cut down some and sitting right on top of the tote. Not a perfect fit. Duct taped around the edges for now until we figure something out. Also have that serving tray on its way and it might fit on there a little better. I'm thinking some black pipe insulation like on line-sets around the top of the tote could do it.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Cool. Eyebolts for LST or something else?

Yeah exactly.

Also could use a 55 gallon black trashbag as a skirt.

 

[Aqua Man]

It's just that mixing tray cut down some and sitting right on top of the tote. Not a perfect fit.View attachment 5454

Looks fine to me

 

[GrumpAzz]

Looks fine to me

You don't think light will bounce off the floor and enter the res through the improper seal? I don't have a clue but it's on my mind lol

 

[Aqua Man]

You don't think light will bounce off the floor and enter the res through the improper seal? I don't have a clue but it's on my mind lol

Imo nope

 

[Zen_seeker]

Sounds like your good to go and have a trim tray coming that’s a backup lid.

Aqua Man is in an extremely agreeable mood today.

 

[smoke]

Imo nope

Rather than just a like.
Imo no as well

 

[GrumpAzz]

Wife and I split an 1/8 of some shrooms last night so I'm sorry for the lacking update. Was gonna mix my nutes but I was a little too screwy to be messing with all those valves and nutrients. PH of the Agsil solution was only at 7.7 this morning after nearly 15 grams of the stuff. I'm going ahead with the mix anyway and am finished adding the DOWN and will add the nutes if this thang stays at 5.8 for a minute. I'll keep you updated. Pics to come.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Alright. Here's what went in and also how she's lookin'. Even though the Agsil solution wasn't above 9, it still took more Down than last time to bring it in range so I'm comfortable with this mix.

After settling into the lower resevoirs, it sits at 250ppm with a pH of 5.9

 

[GrumpAzz]

Hard to get the real colors in a photo but is there something going on with this older growth. There's a little more brown to it than the pic shows.

 

[GrumpAzz]

These things really take off eh? Topped her 5 days ago.

 

[Rootsruler]

These things really take off eh? Topped her 5 days ago.View attachment 5587View attachment 5588View attachment 5589

Pull 12" from a tape measure, lock it in then place it so that the tape is vertical and close enough to the plant so you can see how much it grows every day.

Looking good!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

First fivers showed up this morning

 

[GrumpAzz]

Opened the tent for a quick welfare check when I got home from work and low and behold.... it smells like pot in there.

 

[moe.red]

Wife and I split an 1/8 of some shrooms last night so I'm sorry for the lacking update. Was gonna mix my nutes but I was a little too screwy to be messing with all those valves and nutrients. PH of the Agsil solution was only at 7.7 this morning after nearly 15 grams of the stuff. I'm going ahead with the mix anyway and am finished adding the DOWN and will add the nutes if this thang stays at 5.8 for a minute. I'll keep you updated. Pics to come.

I just got my agsil today so I can duplicate what you have going on there. I’ll let you know what I learn.

 

[moe.red]

These things really take off eh? Topped her 5 days ago.View attachment 5587View attachment 5588View attachment 5589

Those super long petioles make me think you have some far red in that light.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Those super long petioles make me think you have some far red in that light.

It's the SE5000. It's got some red but I don't know where some red becomes far red .

I'll tell her you were talking about her stems.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Tonight's update. The smell has arrived. I just wanna sleep in there.

Something going on with these guys? First set of real leaves is getting a yellowish marble.
Light - 27%
Tent - 77°
-70%
Res - 71°
- 5.7
- 240

Top-off res has five gallons of the nute mix and 15 gallons of RO

 

[moe.red]

It's the SE5000. It's got some red but I don't know where some red becomes far red .

I'll tell her you were talking about her stems.

Nope, I'm wrong. Only goes to 660nm.

Freak plant. I like those.

 

[Aqua Man]

Tonight's update. The smell has arrived. I just wanna sleep in there.
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Something going on with these guys? First set of real leaves is getting a yellowish marble.
Light - 27%
Tent - 77°
-70%
Res - 71°
- 5.7
- 240

Top-off res has five gallons of the nute mix and 15 gallons of RO

Just cut em off…. Once the light goes off they will droop a bit and rest on the lid… they cant transpire well

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just cut em off…. Once the light goes off they will droop a bit and rest on the lid… they cant transpire well

Hell yeah. I've been wanting to trim it's first 4 leaves but was afraid to overdo it on the love.

 

[moe.red]

Only reason to keep them is to raise rh if needed or to supply the new growth with mobile nutrients.

I think you are good on both. Take them off. Just watch that nothing progresses to the now lowest leaves.

time to start ramping up nutes. You should have a full but growing root system now. I’d be targeting 350-400 at this stage personally. Same ratio.

Watch closely for signs of stress burn whatever.

We will find the setpoint ppm for this plant by observation so keep the pics coming.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Only reason to keep them is to raise rh if needed or to supply the new growth with mobile nutrients.

I think you are good on both. Take them off. Just watch that nothing progresses to the now lowest leaves.

time to start ramping up nutes. You should have a full but growing root system now. I’d be targeting 350-400 at this stage personally. Same ratio.

Watch closely for signs of stress burn whatever.

We will find the setpoint ppm for this plant by observation so keep the pics coming.

I'll get her trimmed up and fed tonight after the baby goes to bed. This is the trim I have in mind...

 

[moe.red]

Did the fim work?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Did the fim work?

I decided against the fim. CG tops twice, then fims, so I went that route.

 

[moe.red]

I decided against the fim. CG tops twice, then fims, so I went that route.

Ok good, otherwise I had bad news to deliver lol

 

[GrumpAzz]

Six days ago, she got her first haircut and tonight we shaved her legs. Also gave her a little extra food and her first taste of the pink stuff. Voila

And a little better picture of the two that were buggin' me...