Red's Thread ~ All things Cannabis

[Moshmen]

Sorry for late reply i can't keep up with my posts lol.

And yeah man i looked high and low and no info on turning off the damed led on the idea air dehu. Its definitely coming from the led lights on the top of the machine, then it glows through the top portion of the dehu intake. I got it at lowes so i dont wanna break into it and void warranty. Though running it 24/7 probably voids it anyway lol.

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Just sit a pice of cardboard over it tape if needed won’t void ur warranty plus it’s green right ?

 

[moe.red]

Yeah, without some form of minor surgery, you are looking at tape and similar.

If you were here with me in my shop, I'd fix you right up.

 

[Moshmen]

Yeah, without some form of minor surgery, you are looking at tape and similar.

If you were here with me in my shop, I'd fix you right up.

Should be an easy fix if it needs to be out it would have to be pretty bright right ?

 

[moe.red]

Should be an easy fix if it needs to be out it would have to be pretty bright right ?

Personally I like it perfectly dark in the growspace at night. Even green light is absorbed by the plant much to most people's disagreement. But the studies are there to prove it. Green photons penetrate the plant cells deeper. In terms of raw photosynthesis, it does really well.

Will it signal a hermie? Probably not. I would just not want to take the chance because I don't know everything and spoiling a grow over something stupid makes my ass burn. Done it too many times.

 

[tobh]

makes my ass burn

consider this stolen

 

[moe.red]

This was May 26th

This is June 12, so 17 days





I even still have all the culls growing in fog. They look good too if anyone local wants one of these. @MDK @Scotty 420 @Buzzking

 

[Bandit420]

Personally I like it perfectly dark in the growspace at night. Even green light is absorbed by the plant much to most people's disagreement. But the studies are there to prove it. Green photons penetrate the plant cells deeper. In terms of raw photosynthesis, it does really well.

Will it signal a hermie? Probably not. I would just not want to take the chance because I don't know everything and spoiling a grow over something stupid makes my ass burn. Done it too many times.

Aside from the hammered aluminum reflective panels in my bloom space, I painted everything else in my room black. Even put down black anti fatigue flooring and also painted the ceiling black.
My idea there was a blackout was worth more to me than reflective white just to give the ladies a truly blacked out dark period. Tiny light from things like sensors & monitors just dies in the room with no reflectivity or amplification from a white surface. IDK if it helps deter hermies but I haven't seen a hermie since going with the blackout.

 

[Rootsruler]

Aside from the hammered aluminum reflective panels in my bloom space, I painted everything else in my room black. Even put down black anti fatigue flooring and also painted the ceiling black.
My idea there was a blackout was worth more to me than reflective white just to give the ladies a truly blacked out dark period. Tiny light from things like sensors & monitors just dies in the room with no reflectivity or amplification from a white surface. IDK if it helps deter hermies but I haven't seen a hermie since going with the blackout.

Paint it Vanta Black then you'll have zero worries about light reflecting in the room!

 

[Max]

My dehuey caught me out when first put it in room lights on.I covered the top with silver duck tape.but when I had a peak lights off it was green when rh was low…red when rh is high.luckily it had a night time button.it’s caught me out a few times though when you check lights on I forget to push the button again..even forgetting to cover the inkbirds.they actually should put a night time button on them .

 

[moe.red]

Coming down this weekend.





Soil grow growing.

 

[Buzzking]

This was May 26th

This is June 12, so 17 days

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I even still have all the culls growing in fog. They look good too if anyone local wants one of these. @MDK @Scotty 420 @Buzzking

This was May 26th

This is June 12, so 17 days

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I even still have all the culls growing in fog. They look good too if anyone local wants one of these. @MDK @Scotty 420 @Buzzking

Appreciate the offer Moe but only have space for the 4 I’ve got going at the moment.

 

[smoke]

Coming down this weekend.

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Soil grow growing.

That's just a ugly bud imo

 

[moe.red]

That's just a ugly bud imo

As buds go they are not pretty. High ppfd all the time makes things stressy. I ended up with foxtails and taco leaves. But the lower part of the plants look great.

 

[moe.red]

So 163.8 oz wet. Some stalks. So total finished for this will be in the 2 elbow range. Not too bad for what I did to them.






Now, what to do. Probably need to freeze dry some of each and run it thru the rotovap to see how these taste and hit.
I'll also use a sample from the dryer to test the cannabinoid levels on the white vs purple buds.

Then I start the next chapter with this tent, and do the @CannaGranny soil method vs. RDWC in a side by side using Watermelon Gelato from @Anthem275 . Should be a good grow. For this one I'll go back to my normal training methods and back off the PPDF. The tent will run at the speed of the soil plant, whatever that is.

 

[Moshmen]

Slower

So 163.8 oz wet. Some stalks. So total finished for this will be in the 2 elbow range. Not too bad for what I did to them.

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Now, what to do. Probably need to freeze dry some of each and run it thru the rotovap to see how these taste and hit.
I'll also use a sample from the dryer to test the cannabinoid levels on the white vs purple buds.

Then I start the next chapter with this tent, and do the @CannaGranny soil method vs. RDWC in a side by side using Watermelon Gelato from @Anthem275 . Should be a good grow. For this one I'll go back to my normal training methods and back off the PPDF. The tent will run at the speed of the soil plant, whatever that is.

Lot longer than ur used too ! Lol

 

[moe.red]

Slower

than ur used too ! Lol

I'm good with that. Perhaps being slower is what makes it better in some people's opinion?

 

[MDK]

@Moe.Red just saw this dude....cull is a no no word...lmao. You still got em on fog good sir?

Plant count? Why I love counting plants!

 

[moe.red]

@Moe.Red just saw this dude....cull is a no no word...lmao. You still got em on fog good sir?

Plant count? Why I love counting plants!

Sorry man when I had no takers and the soil grow is all settled, so I trashed them. I'll get you next time.

 

[MDK]

Sorry man when I had no takers and the soil grow is all settled, so I trashed them. I'll get you next time.

No biggie, I like to let it live if I can . They would have just went outside with the herd anyway my tents hemmed up still. I get lost in the notifications for likes that i miss tags sometime

 

[moe.red]

 

[Rootsruler]

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Whenever I see your toys I keep envisioning you like this....

 

[moe.red]

Whenever I see your toys I keep envisioning you like this....

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Staring in the mirror.

 

[Bandit420]

I remember a few weeks ago briefly talking to you about this and it just so happens I have an example now.
Bleached tips on flowers that are lower in the canopy while flowers higher are either not bleached at all or it's minimized.
I think high PPFD and hi intensity of far red does encourage it but I also now believe beam angle of diodes also plays a part now that I pay more attention to it. The perfect combo of the three and perhaps even other unknown variables gets the bleaching but if one factor is off a little, no bleaching.

 

[Observer]

Dopest Dope.

 

[Rootsruler]

I remember a few weeks ago briefly talking to you about this and it just so happens I have an example now.
Bleached tips on flowers that are lower in the canopy while flowers higher are either not bleached at all or it's minimized.
I think high PPFD and hi intensity of far red does encourage it but I also now believe beam angle of diodes also plays a part now that I pay more attention to it. The perfect combo of the three and perhaps even other unknown variables gets the bleaching but if one factor is off a little, no bleaching.

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What is the benefit of bleaching flower?

 

[GrumpAzz]

What is the benefit of bleaching flower?

I think Moe intentionally bleached his for an experiment to hopefully disprove a theory saying that the bleaching is all/much higher THC.

 

[Bandit420]

What is the benefit of bleaching flower?

There is none. Just something that happens at random and is neither good or bad. Like a total void of chlorophyll but everything else is normal

 

[moe.red]

Freeze dried bud

 

[MDK]

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Freeze dried bud

Damn nice! Does this basically eliminate having to dry and cure?

 

[Moshmen]

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Freeze dried bud

Smokeable in less then. 24 hours ?

 

[moe.red]

Well, they sell these things as 24 hour cure. You have to be very generous with the definition of cure to believe that.

I do not smoke the result. Harsh and dry.

Basically it removes all the water while locking in everything not water soluble. So all the cannabinoids stay, water and a significant amount of chlorophyll goes.

I think of this more as a quick method to get you to an extract. When I wash with ETOH, the result is very blonde and clean. Much better than a full spectrum oil that comes out very dark and lots of plant goodies in there.

It's just a fast clean way to process.

Funny just how light these buds are without any water. Like packing peanuts is the best way I can describe it. Still firm and takes up space, but density is very low.

 

[moe.red]

Oh yeah, and this also allows me to do all my testing right away. So testing those white buds is next.

 

[smoke]

Did you measure the water displaced by the roots ?

 

[Pipecarver]

I think Moe intentionally bleached his for an experiment to hopefully disprove a theory saying that the bleaching is all/much higher THC.

I grew a plant years ago under a 1000w hps, I didn't know about bleaching. I thought wow white crystals its gotta be potent. After drying I could wait to try and wtf nothing no taste or buzz... well that sucked.....It wasn't until I got to the Farm 20 years later I learned what I'd done.....not to be repeated I've done my testing.

 

[moe.red]

These roots were small and not a good indicator. On the next grow I’ll be growing alongside soil so the roots should fill the bucket and I’ll test then.

Frigging bugs already.

 

[MDK]

I've had a few in my tent as well, I've gotten them down to all but dead by just putting the lower fan I have more directly on the top of the soil...

Keep us posted if you successfully eradicate them. I get very few now, also toning down my watering a bit I feel like has helped.

I'd say we both have them mild, I got another local bud that has a moderate amount he just put in yellow traps I think that stake into the soil...I'm out of touch with products to say specifically what he is trying

 

[ZombieRider]

Yo! Have you tried a rootzone soak of Dr. Zymes for those gnats? I did 2 applications of dr zymes a week apart and no more gnats. I think it does kill the microbe colonies though right? So that sucks gotta build em up again.

This grow Im maxing out at 36-37 dli, and gonna rock 35-32 till harvest. I used to run 40DLI last grows and I too think it makes em a bit stressy. Do you think extra light makes the plant make more terpenes? Or is it just for adding weight?

 

[Anthem275]

These roots were small and not a good indicator. On the next grow I’ll be growing alongside soil so the roots should fill the bucket and I’ll test then.

Frigging bugs already.

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Moe,
This will complete kill off the gnat community.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006JLMQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[smoke]

Ive used this in my grows

 

[Moshmen]

Well, they sell these things as 24 hour cure. You have to be very generous with the definition of cure to believe that.

I do not smoke the result. Harsh and dry.

Basically it removes all the water while locking in everything not water soluble. So all the cannabinoids stay, water and a significant amount of chlorophyll goes.

I think of this more as a quick method to get you to an extract. When I wash with ETOH, the result is very blonde and clean. Much better than a full spectrum oil that comes out very dark and lots of plant goodies in there.

It's just a fast clean way to process.

Funny just how light these buds are without any water. Like packing peanuts is the best way I can describe it. Still firm and takes up space, but density is very low.

Much like what I want to dry sift .