Bean's Stash Closet

[smoke]

You might want to rethink unhooking and rotating the trellis to avoid a mishap

 

[Cool_Beans]

Ok, I was going to unhook it from the anchors and rotate the whole plant/lid but you're probably right.

Edit- you got me thinking dude. I wonder if I could fab up some kind of free standing circular trellis frame that could rotate w the lid for next time. Hmm.

 

[moe.red]

I built lst clips into my twist locks so the training comes out with the plant. Not a scrog but works to hold branches down. Can still take the whole plant out and work on it on the bench.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Yes, this is similar in concept. The 6 tie downs actually did most of the works in training. They are anchored on the lid, which stays w the plant.

 

[moe.red]

Yes, this is similar in concept. The 6 tie downs actually did most of the works in training. They are anchored on the lid, which stays w the plant.

Yeah I remember now. I need a RAM upgrade.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Got another brute 10gal and air pump on the way so I can start vegging this beautiful little clone in my tent. Closet plant is really starting to stink up the basement. I dialed rh back to 50-52%.

 

[moe.red]

Looks super healthy bro. I wouldn't change a thing. Time to start packing on some weight on those buds. Fun times.

 

[Cool_Beans]

The table is set dude, cant wait to see what happens lol.

 

[moe.red]

The table is set dude, cant wait to see what happens lol.

Hey I don't know if you noticed I sped ahead of you. That's the CO2. Overall size of the plant too. Amazing the boost it gives once everything else is dialed in. Your grow is going so well it would have benefited. Imagine having 20% more plant there. Your horizontal space could take it, and you have another 8 inches you could go higher. The difference in yield would be significant.

You could also fill the space more if you vegged longer. The problem with pheno hunting is you never know how big the plant will get during the stretch until you grow it once. If you grow this plant again, 2 more weeks of veg probably would have filled the space. Or same time with CO2.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Gas sounds cool, I dont think it would take much to accomplish w that size space. I think you're right about another week or two in veg, I was being conservative w it this time not knowing how much it would stretch. Next run I'm only doing 2 nodes vs 3, the center canopy was a cluster fuck most of the time and I cut most of it out anyway. Lot of wasted energy there. Im.still weeks ahead of my soil grows.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Thinking ahead to Monday feeding. I'm now 2 months with no full change out, only ammending. The plant is doing great but I'm having 2nd thoughts about how far I should push this water into flower. My concern is potentially holding it back in ways I can't easily gauge. At the same time I'd love to see this through for the challenge of it and would hate to upset the plant w a big change. Feel like I'm at a crossroads here where I need to make a call and Im a little conflicted.

WWBBD? (What would Bud Builders do?)

 

[smoke]

Im not sure I've ever done a change out while in veg and I'll go as long as 8 wks.

If it was mine i wouldn't change anything your doing until the water/plant tells you to

 

[Moshmen]

Thinking ahead to Monday feeding. I'm now 2 months with no full change out, only ammending. The plant is doing great but I'm having 2nd thoughts about how far I should push this water into flower. My concern is potentially holding it back in ways I can't easily gauge. At the same time I'd love to see this through for the challenge of it and would hate to upset the plant w a big change. Feel like I'm at a crossroads here where I need to make a call and Im a little conflicted.

WWBBD? (What would Bud Builders do?)

Nice now I gotta get a neoprene bracelet ! Lol

 

[Cool_Beans]

I dont know what is happening but she is down 50ppm overnight and over last few days pH leveled off at 5.6 then started rising slowly. Sitting at 5.9 right now. She is down nearly 150ppm for the week now.

 

[moe.red]

I’m a little confused what happened to the stretch on this plant. I’ve grown dozens of white widow and they tend to be tall. Where were the seeds from?

I think you could go either way. The safe way is to change out the res and reset. If you are getting big swings in ph or ppm that is a good time to do it.

These days I’m keeping the res water for a whole grow. I’ve been at the other end and change out weekly. The both work. Keeping the same res water the whole time requires some skills and watching the plant closely but is more similar to nature. That’s why I do it. Trying to get maximum complexity in the plant. But an imbalance can cause issues too so it’s really up to you.

Safe bet is to swap out at least part of the res.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I got them from North Atlantic Seed Co, I think they were dutch passion or something. They described it as a more compact strain and that's what I was looking for. I wouldn't say big swings in pH, but the trend down reversed and I havent seen that yet. It is back at 5.85 now, ppm still dropping fast and its drinking. Buds are blowing up too.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Oh you know what, I dosed w hygrozyme two days ago and forgot all about it. Possibly exfoliate altering water chem, and subsequent boost in uptake.

 

[Cool_Beans]

The bud sites are changing quite a bit every day.

 

[moe.red]

For sure a healthy plant beans but not what I am used to in ww at all. I got my genetics from greenhouse seeds the original breeder. Mine were big tall fast growing and doubled in size on the stretch.

I’ve probably grown 20 of them over the years. Never seen this pheno.

I question if it is really ww. Doesn’t really matter the plant is still happy and gonna be great, just saying.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I've never grown it so I dont have anything to compare with. I got some bubba kush seeds too, and they gave me sunrise sherbert for freebies. Its also entirely possible I stunted its growth doing too much or not enough, no idea. I'm still at the thankful for each day it's not brown stage haha. I have 2 clones I'm going to put in soil and grow outside so I can see what it does without cropping etc.

 

[moe.red]

You did nothing that would cause a plant that normally stretches 200% to not stretch. That is genetic.

My best piece of advice is to only buy from breeders or in original breeder packs. Been burned too many times personally.

I got some real ww here if you want to try it to see the difference.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Yeah man I'd love to take you up on that. I really have no clue when it comes to that end of it. I'm just looking for good smoke that grows the way I want in the closet. I really love the setup, having the plant elevated w the sort of countertop around everything is so handy for working on stuff.

 

[Cool_Beans]

24hrs after full res change to half strength bloom ratios+epsom. I chickened out after last few days of unusual shit going on w the water lol. It had stabilized but spooked me enough to do at least one full changeout this grow lol. I also brought the light up to 70%

I noticed the leaves growing thinner and more shiny starting around the outside of the canopy and working in. This plant has far more hairy, frosty bud growth at this stage than my other two grows.

 

[moe.red]

Looks like you have resin rails starting to form.

Do you consume bud or do concentrates? I ask because there is a good chance you will have tons of trichomes on what would normally be considered trim. Maybe not the greatest for smoking, but still plenty to extract there.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Looks like you have resin rails starting to form.

Do you consume bud or do concentrates? I ask because there is a good chance you will have tons of trichomes on what would normally be considered trim. Maybe not the greatest for smoking, but still plenty to extract there.

You're right, I'm even seeing trichomes on big fans. We smoke currently but want to move away from it w edibles or concentrates once I get a couple grows in the bank.

 

[steamroller]

Trim leaves like that are great for screening.

 

[Rootsruler]

I question if it is really ww. Doesn’t really matter the plant is still happy and gonna be great, just saying.

I agree. I've grown WW and that doesn't look like what I grew although maybe the WW I grew wasn't WW?

 

[Cool_Beans]

This is what I have. Not sure what they did w their strain but It is growing how they described, near as I can tell.

Res is down 60ppm since Monday and its sucking up water, so far so good.

 

[moe.red]

Looks legit.

There is some controversy over who made WW originally. I think most agree it was Greenhouse Seeds. That is the version I ran. I saw very few pheno type differences, seems stable to me.

For me it has always leaned sativa and on the tall side.

But who cares, as long as it makes good smoke. Yours could be better!

 

[moe.red]

Do you think you are dialed in enough for more light?

5.6 ph is low for bloom nutes. You can steer uptake a bit with ph.

Are you on the 500 scale for ppm?

You have buds under the canopy that will not develop as well as the ones in full light.




The top of the plant looks like it can take more light if you keep it dialed in like this.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I can definitely try pushing more light. I adjusted pH yesterday after it ate a bunch and its stabilizing closer to 6 now. I'm on the same scale but backed strength off somewhat a few weeks ago when I started seeing that tip burn.

I see what looks like start of maybe calcium deficiency showing in older fans in the form of faint orange or rust colored little spots out on some of the tips. It's not much but I can see it. I'll grab some pics tomorrow when it wakes up. I havent used cal mag but once and it was back before I flipped lights.

 

[smoke]

Looks legit.

There is some controversy over who made WW originally. I think most agree it was Greenhouse Seeds. That is the version I ran. I saw very few pheno type differences, seems stable to me.

For me it has always leaned sativa and on the tall side.

But who cares, as long as it makes good smoke. Yours could be better!

I think it was my second grow and i grew 4 plants successfully. 2 were White Widow and 2 were white rino. All 4 had similar strech where they doubled in height

 

[Cool_Beans]

This was 12" tall when I flipped it, now 24" after stretch. Viola, doubled. Lol.


Here is one of the fans with the rust spots forming. It's only on a couple of these old fans.

 

[moe.red]

Yes sir, that is classic calcium deficiency that happens right now. You got this, you know what to do. Not an emergency.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I farted toward the intake vent while dumping in 50ppm cal mag. If it's too much N I was going to leave out gro next feeding and sub w cal mag(2-0-0) If I do this I'm not sure if I should also leave out the Epsom for 1 week. I dont have a lot of purple on the petioles and seems to be handling light ok.

 

[moe.red]

I'd stick with just the cal mag for a day or 2. Let's see how it responds. My guess is that will take care of it, although that leaf will not heal. You are looking for new spots to (not) happen.

 

[Cool_Beans]

I'd stick with just the cal mag for a day or 2. Let's see how it responds. My guess is that will take care of it, although that leaf will not heal. You are looking for new spots to (not) happen.

Ok thanks Moe. I'll keep an eye out and give it some more this weekend if it progresses. The buds are still growing rapidly. I'm holding it at 6.1-6.2pH for now.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Got the veg tent going with the clone I brought on in the 1gal paint can. Couple things left to do but it's mostly gtg. This was sort of the last step in getting my production line all up and running. Hopefully w 10gal bucket I wont need to mess w water too much for the next 3-4 weeks but we'll see. More learning opportunities.

 

[Cool_Beans]

One of the two clones I rooted in a tuperware w hydroton getting transplanted to soil.

 

[steamroller]

Got the veg tent going with the clone I brought on in the 1gal paint can. Couple things left to do but it's mostly gtg. This was sort of the last step in getting my production line all up and running. Hopefully w 10gal bucket I wont need to mess w water too much for the next 3-4 weeks but we'll see. More learning opportunities.

Oh I like this.
I am really liking the Brute grow~!
Just an air pump for the clone until you move her in 3-4 weeks?