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My advice? Quit counting days. Let the plant do what it needs to regardless of the timing.

For me, I react to what the plant gives me and what space I am trying to fill rather than looking at a calendar. The only dates that really matter are when you germ and when you harvest - the rest are just sorta rules of thumb.
 
Moe.Red said:
My advice? Quit counting days. Let the plant do what it needs to regardless of the timing.

For me, I react to what the plant gives me and what space I am trying to fill rather than looking at a calendar. The only dates that really matter are when you germ and when you harvest - the rest are just sorta rules of thumb.
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This… there is no set it at this for this day etc…. They are nothing more than guidelines always go by the plants and never a schedule
 
Just found this on SF's website. I must've thought I read 12 for flower and 18 for veg. I'll be hoisting it up another 6 inches promptly.
@Aqua Man
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These are my two new tops. What's going on with that guy? Instead of coming out of the crotch, it decided to make a new crotch?20230607_184857.jpg
 
With my SE3000/SF4000 I would always start at about 20% intensity and like 2-4 feet away from seedlings. As they naturally grow/get bigger they would get more intense PPFD and then I would just turn up the intensity as the plant matured.
 
Shaded said:
With my SE3000/SF4000 I would always start at about 20% intensity and like 2-4 feet away from seedlings. As they naturally grow/get bigger they would get more intense PPFD and then I would just turn up the intensity as the plant matured.
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I’m weird but I wear it well.

I base early ppfd on the roots as much as the green part. With small roots you can get the top asking for more than the roots can provide at higher ppfd.

I get no where near 100% until the roots are bigger than the veg growth.

Every plant is a little different.
 
GrumpAzz said:
I like this for sure. I just see people say "vegged for so many weeks" or whatever and was wondering how you keep track of that.
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I do it for my own reasons. I test ideas and needed a way to tell difference. People were already doing this so it fit.

As an example I keep new clones like mothers. (Still working on no deficiencies) This is so I can slow things down and buy time for the flowering plants. By keeping a day count I know how long I’ve had her in that stage. Weeks I just add, no reason.

I don’t even know what I have. I just know we like it. So I have no idea when things are supposed to happen.

Plus I do think longer vegging improves harvest with more/larger branches and roots but that’s more opinion than fact ATM. But at some point I’ll see if a pattern emerges.

Edit: Lastly most nutrient charts I’ve seen go by weeks. Some 1-15 others Sprout 1/3 Veg 1/4 Flower 1/8 that sort of thing.
 
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Rootsruler said:
When are you going to start training?
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Should LST be done in the morning hours or is it better to give her a nights rest after the stress?

Edit - Google says to do it just before lights out. I assumed so since that's what I found or topping. I'll keep you updated.
 
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GrumpAzz said:
Should LST be done in the morning hours or is it better to give her a nights rest after the stress?

Edit - Google says to do it just before lights out. I assumed so since that's what I found or topping. I'll keep you updated.
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I don't think it really matters although I would imagine it would be best to do it where they have time to rebound from being manhandled. Is that under lights or in the dark? Not sure.
 
Well I'm gonna smoke a little more with the miss. Then I'll head back and figure something out. Might tie one side down and use the LST clips on the other... see what happens.

Maybe I'll treat her like @Cool_Beans and just drop the People's Elbow
 
Haven't been able to get away from the baby to go into the tent. Been on Dad duty today. One thing to note is the pH. 5.6 this morning, brought it up to 5.9 and it's held 5.8 almost all day. That's kind of a relief.

I plan on going in and and doing some more aggressive LST. I had an idea. I'll run some wire between a couple rings and then from the plant to those lateral lines.
 
I should've grabbed a before pic but I was trying not to waste any time in there before lights out. She's happy and healthy if you ask me. I tied her down and trimmed the oldest leaves on the lowest nodes. 8 total and 4 only had one blade. Probably the oldest leaves altogether with that in mind. Just those couple snips and my fingers are sticky. I love it. I Wasn't expecting sticky fingers just yet.
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Also... this guy started peeking out a couple days ago. I kinda thought it was a fluke being so high up the pot. Pretty cool either way. Looks big and healthy, eh?
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Looks good man! How are you liking the water system you built? You finding chores and stuff pretty easy?
 
Seeing a little tip burn so I've backed the light off to 20% to see if that's the culprit.20230611_094558.jpg
 
Cool_Beans said:
Looks good man! How are you liking the water system you built? You finding chores and stuff pretty easy?
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So far yeah. It's been pretty simple. I should've wired the RO pump into a switch but the RO system was an afterthought so I run a small extension cord when I need it.

I would run return lines lower or install a seperate pump for emptying the resevoirs because right now, when I do a res change, there's still an inch or more of water in the bottom of the plant res. I don't like that.

I would probably go with a larger control resevoir and an extra pump or two that just circulates that water, something to mix the the added nutes.

After a few harvests, this closet will become the water room and I'll have a veg and flower room on seperate systems. Life hit me with a potential detour, though, and I may only be able to get one harvest in before traveling with the family for work. Nothing's on paper yet but the GC of the recent project I wired wants me to follow them and be their electrician. With the wife on board to try out the camper life for a while, the money is something I shouldn't pass up.
 
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