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Grump's Dip-N-Stix Grow 🌱

OLDCRO said:
Has a couple of thermoelectric peltier coolers ,one on the bottom of cannatrol another on back wall. Im sure there is some kind of heating device inside also for temps. Has vapour drainage at rear with catch cup when drying has to be dumped a couple times in a 24 hour period.
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Is it set and forget? What's the sponge and water cup for?
 
You have to dump the water collection when drying twice in 24 hour period. Sponge sits in cup you put on botttom shelf of cannatrol on second day of drying and leave it in there threw drying curing and storage . Just keeps moisture inside cannatrol i have it set at 61 percent humidity if it doesnt have this moisture will pull from the buds
 
steamroller said:
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I wish I was tech savvy.
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Do you agree with this?


the 60-60 myth.

He says the optimum drying temp is 68* and a 54* dewpoint. He doesn't state it but that means 61% Humidity.

that's how I dry now and I can't get cured bud in 8 days. I suck in air from my basement which sits at 68*F and always below 40%RH virtually all year and the exhaust fan comes on at whatever I set it too, usually 60. What am I missing?

The dry takes place in a tent, I wet trim to finished size and put it in a 4x4 set up just for drying. I'll find a pic if you haven't seen it. I use a stainless rack system made for commercial kitchens.

I guess I'm asking why do you need a glass door if the temp and RH (oh, sorry, dew point lol) is correct? I could certainly tweak this tent a bit with a heater and humidifier, maybe some computer controlled fans and multiple environmental sensors for a few bux and seems like it would be the same? But does all that really take a month off the cure?

This technology was made for cheese and repurposed for cannabis. Found that interesting.
 
I always thought 68f and 61RH was ideal.
Many shoot for lower temps but that adds to difficulty and to lower RH if you use AC.
I am not on my best most lonely day going to try to make a system when I can buy it.
My time goes where I am most efficient.
I will be installing the AC to the room in my house and placing a humidifier in my 4x4 tent in that room.
Hoping I have a AC infinity fan and controller I can set up for RH or temp or both.
The cannatrol is in my future.
I don't want to work it, I want it to work.
 
Moe.Red said:
Do you agree with this?


the 60-60 myth.

He says the optimum drying temp is 68* and a 54* dewpoint. He doesn't state it but that means 61% Humidity.

that's how I dry now and I can't get cured bud in 8 days. I suck in air from my basement which sits at 68*F and always below 40%RH virtually all year and the exhaust fan comes on at whatever I set it too, usually 60. What am I missing?

The dry takes place in a tent, I wet trim to finished size and put it in a 4x4 set up just for drying. I'll find a pic if you haven't seen it. I use a stainless rack system made for commercial kitchens.

I guess I'm asking why do you need a glass door if the temp and RH (oh, sorry, dew point lol) is correct? I could certainly tweak this tent a bit with a heater and humidifier, maybe some computer controlled fans and multiple environmental sensors for a few bux and seems like it would be the same? But does all that really take a month off the cure?

This technology was made for cheese and repurposed for cannabis. Found that interesting.
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Damn.. I can keep my tent at 68 degrees pretty comfortably. It bounces between 66 and 70. The 61 rh was easy to hit too. And it only held up my tent for 3 days.

Is there an optimum cure temp? Once they're dried and bagged, I just stuff 'em in a dresser drawer in the back room. Low 70s.
 
steamroller said:
I always thought 68f and 61RH was ideal.
Many shoot for lower temps but that adds to difficulty and to lower RH if you use AC.
I am not on my best most lonely day going to try to make a system when I can buy it.
My time goes where I am most efficient.
I will be installing the AC to the room in my house and placing a humidifier in my 4x4 tent in that room.
Hoping I have a AC infinity fan and controller I can set up for RH or temp or both.
The cannatrol is in my future.
I don't want to work it, I want it to work.
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Not asking you to build one :LOL: I know you are a slacker.

Trying to figure out if it is real. I cure my dried weed for 30+ days in glass and to me it makes a night and day difference to wait.
 
Moe.Red said:
Do you agree with this?


the 60-60 myth.

He says the optimum drying temp is 68* and a 54* dewpoint. He doesn't state it but that means 61% Humidity.

that's how I dry now and I can't get cured bud in 8 days. I suck in air from my basement which sits at 68*F and always below 40%RH virtually all year and the exhaust fan comes on at whatever I set it too, usually 60. What am I missing?

The dry takes place in a tent, I wet trim to finished size and put it in a 4x4 set up just for drying. I'll find a pic if you haven't seen it. I use a stainless rack system made for commercial kitchens.

I guess I'm asking why do you need a glass door if the temp and RH (oh, sorry, dew point lol) is correct? I could certainly tweak this tent a bit with a heater and humidifier, maybe some computer controlled fans and multiple environmental sensors for a few bux and seems like it would be the same? But does all that really take a month off the cure?

This technology was made for cheese and repurposed for cannabis. Found that interesting.
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dont terps evaporate at 68F+ ?
 
Moe.Red said:
Not asking you to build one :LOL: I know you are a slacker.

Trying to figure out if it is real. I cure my dried weed for 30+ days in glass and to me it makes a night and day difference to wait.
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Slacker for sure 🤣

I remember Zombie talking about the dew point being the more important thing to look at when drying and curing.

I think my 3 day dry was about perfect because the tester buds were all really smooth. Now hopefully I'll be able to stay out of the grove bags for a couple weeks. The last few will likely be in the cure bags for over a month or two.
 
Observer said:
dont terps evaporate at 68F+ ?
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No 5f below room temp which flucuates and then demands more controls and such.
Moe.Red said:
Not asking you to build one :LOL: I know you are a slacker.

Trying to figure out if it is real. I cure my dried weed for 30+ days in glass and to me it makes a night and day difference to wait.
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I don't think it cures in 4 days but I would expect it to be close for jaring or bagging in 4 days and then you start cure.
I don't believe you speed up cure just the dry/ pre cure part is what I see.
And YES to SLACKER~!
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steamroller said:
No 5f below room temp which flucuates and then demands more controls and such.

I don't think it cures in 4 days but I would expect it to be close for jaring or bagging in 4 days and then you start cure.
I don't believe you speed up cure just the dry/ pre cure part is what I see.
And YES to SLACKER~!
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Yeah I agree. And if I'm wet trimming, that's only 3-4 days of waiting. I think I may have just talked myself out of the cannatrol.. or moe did. Either way, I'm not really seeing the use for it any more.

What's the highest temp setting on a mini fridge fro storing and curing 🤣
 
Observer said:
dont terps evaporate at 68F+ ?
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Some do, sure. If it smells like weed, terps are evaporating.

I suppose that could be a reason for a sealed box like the cannatrol. I imagine there is a point where the air could be so full of molecules there is more pressure to stay put then evaporate. Like when RH is too high the plant cant respire even if stomata are wide open kinda thing. I don't know if thats real thing that happens with terps I'd have to look it up.
 
Moe.Red said:
Some do, sure. If it smells like weed, terps are evaporating.

I suppose that could be a reason for a sealed box like the cannatrol. I imagine there is a point where the air could be so full of molecules there is more pressure to stay put then evaporate. Like when RH is too high the plant cant respire even if stomata are wide open kinda thing. I don't know if thats real thing that happens with terps I'd have to look it up.
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i was wondering how that works with terpenes too just last night as i was looking at my jars
 
GrumpAzz said:
Yeah I agree. And if I'm wet trimming, that's only 3-4 days of waiting. I think I may have just talked myself out of the cannatrol.. or moe did. Either way, I'm not really seeing the use for it any more.

What's the highest temp setting on a mini fridge fro storing and curing 🤣
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I am more sold every minute~!
Impersonation is the greatest form of flattery.
I'd rather Moe figure out tissue culture and start our bank while he gimps around all frustrated about being slowed down.
 
GrumpAzz said:
Slacker for sure 🤣

I remember Zombie talking about the dew point being the more important thing to look at when drying and curing.

I think my 3 day dry was about perfect because the tester buds were all really smooth. Now hopefully I'll be able to stay out of the grove bags for a couple weeks. The last few will likely be in the cure bags for over a month or two.
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Dew Point and RH are 2 ways of stating the same measurement. Like EC vs. PPM

At 68*, 100% RH, dewpoint is 68*. There is so much pressure to move water out of the air that it makes fog or condenses on surfaces.

Basically dew point is the point at which you would measure 100%RH given a specific temp. For our purposes, dp and rh are used to modify the speed at which water exits the plant. They do the same thing.

I'm struggling with the 4 day dry 4 day cure thing. I get the dry time but... Then again I also didn't get Uber when it first came out either.

We were taught as kids to not get in strangers cars or meet strangers from the internet, and now we literally summon strangers from the internet and get in their cars.​

 
I usally harvest 5 to 6 plants at a time all autos they fill the cannatrol i set 4 day dry 4 day cure . Then the cannatrol goes into standby mode keeping rh at 61 percent i smoke from the cannatrol because its always fresh. When next harvest is ready i jar what ever is left.
 
OLDCRO said:
I usally harvest 5 to 6 plants at a time all autos they fill the cannatrol i set 4 day dry 4 day cure . Then the cannatrol goes into standby mode keeping rh at 61 percent i smoke from the cannatrol because its always fresh. When next harvest is ready i jar what ever is left.
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Does the cure get better with time?

I like it, you basically have a humidor. That's a neat feature.
 
I hummed and hawed about getting a cannatrol im in Canada i wish i could of got it at 1600.00. To make a story short a person bought the cannatrol brought it home didnt pass it with his wife first she said return it. Store was charging him 20 percent restock i happened to be at the right place at right time still paid 2400.00 Canadian for it. Am i happy with purchase you bet.
 
GrumpAzz said:
This is one of the little shitnuggets I was considering LARF. Whole plant is smokeable. That's wassup 👊
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There's a lot of berry coming through as it cures. This is out of our smoking bag too, so it's not really curing. We're in and out of the bag a couple times a day. Smelled one of the grove bags in the back and it's got the same going on. Berry nose building. I like.
 
GrumpAzz said:
There's a lot of berry coming through as it cures. This is out of our smoking bag too, so it's not really curing. We're in and out of the bag a couple times a day. Smelled one of the grove bags in the back and it's got the same going on. Berry nose building. I like.
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Good job, good herb..
Life is good~!
Nicely done man.
 
GrumpAzz said:
There's a lot of berry coming through as it cures. This is out of our smoking bag too, so it's not really curing. We're in and out of the bag a couple times a day. Smelled one of the grove bags in the back and it's got the same going on. Berry nose building. I like.
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i'm gonna have to try mine out this weekend... i was checking the dry today and i'm getting stem snap on the thinner ones. should be ready to dry trim this weekend. i only smoked some of the imperium x so far.. next up will be the DnS!! hope i get some of that berry too!!!!!
 
steamroller said:
Good job, good herb..
Life is good~!
Nicely done man.
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Life is good, brother. Thanks a bunch.

Stoneyluv said:
i'm gonna have to try mine out this weekend... i was checking the dry today and i'm getting stem snap on the thinner ones. should be ready to dry trim this weekend. i only smoked some of the imperium x so far.. next up will be the DnS!! hope i get some of that berry too!!!!!
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I feel like @Bandit420 mentioned some fuel and berry notes but I don't remember if that was the smell or taste or whether or not that was cured. All in all, I'm glad I grabbed another pack so I can revisit this strain once I really figure out this growing weed stuff.
 
Well grump sorry for the cannatrol derailment. I’ve decided I’m going to pimp out my dry tent to get pinpoint control and leave it sealed.

Do the 4 day dry at 68f and 60 rh 54 dp then jar them up and leave the jars open in the same tent same conditions. See how that goes.
 
Moe.Red said:
Well grump sorry for the cannatrol derailment. I’ve decided I’m going to pimp out my dry tent to get pinpoint control and leave it sealed.

Do the 4 day dry at 68f and 60 rh 54 dp then jar them up and leave the jars open in the same tent same conditions. See how that goes.
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Haha no worries. Saved me 1700 bucks, maybe. I'm like steamroller, a sucker for convenience and a flashy box with buttons and lights.

My tent wasn't sealed but I feel like I got a good dry on it this time. We'll just see where my bank account sits come time for next harvest. I have spoiled myself so far with this last batch of ACI gear. It seems like a dry/cure box is the last upgrade for this setup. 1700 could get me a decent second setup, though.
 
Moe.Red said:
More weed is always the answer to any question right?
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You got that right ✅️
I was steered away from the cannatrol when oldcro said his dried buds only smell when ground up, so I'm not sold on it.
I'd have to see one in action and smoke the product first I guess.
 
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GoodShit97 said:
You got that right ✅️
I was steered away from the cannatrol when oldcro said his dried buds only smell when ground up, so I'm not sold on it.
I'd have to see one in action and smoke the product first I guess.
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