Grump's Dip-N-Stix Grow 🌱

[Observer]

Just looked it up
$1600?

Yup

Like a "fancy" wine cooler jacked up.

Slapped with a "green" tax

 

[GrumpAzz]

Just looked it up
$1600?

Haha.. yep.

The convenience of it all is worth a ton in my mind. Just gotta talk my heart into it

 

[moe.red]

Yup

Like a "fancy" wine cooler jacked up.

Hmmmmm. I think I could build one for the price of the cooler and about $100

Anybody wanna design one with me? I got a fridge I can use already.

 

[Observer]

Man... this'll be my next purchase in the weed realm of things. I just want full control over the cure. It would EVENTUALLY pay for itself in grove bags

Haha good point.

I hate it man, I hate not being able to dry even close to 60/60, from everything I've read 68F+ terpenes can start to evaporate, if you're smelling it, that's the terps evaporating away off the buds we just spent 8+ weeks growing.

I want all of those % points

And proper dry/cure, a variable for smooth smoke.

 

[moe.red]

@GrumpAzz I can send you the rest of my 1# grove bags if you want them. I probably have 6 or 7 left I’ll never use. I’m back to glass.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Hmmmmm. I think I could build one for the price of the cooler and about $100

Anybody wanna design one with me? I got a fridge I can use already.

Dude build one and I'll send you 500 AND come pick it up.

 

[GrumpAzz]

@GrumpAzz I can send you the rest of my 1# grove bags if you want them. I probably have 6 or 7 left I’ll never use. I’m back to glass.

Easier with glass? Or do you like the final product better?

 

[moe.red]

Dude build one and I'll send you 500 AND come pick it up.

Deal. Just finished this print head recovery jig so ready for the next project. Got a bum leg so now’s a good time to get busy on designing something.

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[Observer]

Easier with glass? Or do you like the final product better?

I use jars too, not tried the groves yet.

 

[moe.red]

Easier with glass? Or do you like the final product better?

Final product. It’s just a preference thing there’s nothing wrong with the bags.

I’ve got about 10 of the 2.5 gallon glass jars so might as well use them.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Deal. Just finished this print head recovery jig so ready for the next project. Got a bum leg so now’s a good time to get busy on designing something.

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Man I like your style. Knowing you, it'll be a killer project too.

I use jars too, not tried the groves yet.

They worked alright last run but it dried too fast and hit pretty harsh. Killer terps though.

 

[steamroller]

I will just set up my AC this time but if things stay the same for me I am willing to invest in the cannatrol at 1600+.
@GrumpAzz that is how slackers do it. Set it and forget it~!
Time will get you money but your money won't buy you time~ James Taylor.

 

[moe.red]

I will just set up my AC this time but if things stay the same for me I am willing to invest in the cannatrol at 1600+.
@GrumpAzz that is how slackers do it. Set it and forget it~!
Time will get you money but your money won't buy you time~ James Taylor.

How would you use it? Seems small for you.

 

[steamroller]

How would you use it? Seems small for you.

I thought the same but if it dries in 4 days and my room never finishes all at once I think I could make it work.
I also think running my AC for over 1 month in the dry room will cost 1/10 of the cannatrol.
It would spend most of its life like my press, tumbler, distiller in its box.
But it would be a useful tool also IMO.

 

[GrumpAzz]

How would you use it? Seems small for you.

It does appear to only hold a pound or less.

 

[steamroller]

It does appear to only hold a pound or less.

First world/ white people problems?

 

[steamroller]

It does appear to only hold a pound or less.

So 1lb every 4 days won't work for you?
I think I can make it work~!
There are a few members here that own one and have not said one bad word about them...
@OLDCRO ....

 

[moe.red]

I thought the same but if it dries in 4 days and my room never finishes all at once I think I could make it work.
I also think running my AC for over 1 month in the dry room will cost 1/10 of the cannatrol.
It would spend most of its life like my press, tumbler, distiller in its box.
But it would be a useful tool also IMO.

you had me at useful tool.

Would a full size refrigerator or a chest freezer be a good doner? The electronics are easy.

This guy did a much larger wine cooler with glass door for $200

https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/16ireue

 

[GrumpAzz]

you had me at useful tool.

Would a full size refrigerator or a chest freezer be a good doner? The electronics are easy.

This guy did a much larger wine cooler with glass door for $200

https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/16ireue

Alright. I'll have to think about this some more. Don't get too involved just yet. I'm gonna look at this again. If you build one, I'll buy it. Just wait a bit before you start. Not sure if my old ranger could make it that far to haul a full sized fridge back.

 

[Observer]

So 1lb every 4 days won't work for you?
I think I can make it work~!
There are a few members here that own one and have not said one bad word about them...
@OLDCRO ....

Sound good to me, don't harvest all at the same time anyways, we rotating around.

 

[Observer]

That's dope Moe.Refrigerant

 

[GrumpAzz]

you had me at useful tool.

Would a full size refrigerator or a chest freezer be a good doner? The electronics are easy.

This guy did a much larger wine cooler with glass door for $200

https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/16ireue

This thing looks slick too. I don't know if I can do the programming he's talking about, though. His graph also shows upper 60's which I'm able to accomplish.

 

[moe.red]

Alright. I'll have to think about this some more. Don't get too involved just yet. I'm gonna look at this again. If you build one, I'll buy it. Just wait a bit before you start. Not sure if my old ranger could make it that far to haul a full sized fridge back.

What might you have already? You are handy, I can send you the parts for you to install if I do this. I suppose you could even build the box out of plywood if we design it right.

Looking at that reddit post it seems pretty easy. The only difficulty is he has no dehumidification so he relies on his house AC to get rid of several pounds of water. I do that now too, but it would not work for everyone. Putting it in the garage or similar, and being able to double as a beer fridge when you are not curing would make some sense. Dunno, just spitballing.

 

[OLDCRO]

Cannatrol 2.2 pounds wet and can store 4 pounds dry. Works well for me no more harsh smoke.

 

[steamroller]

Cannatrol 2.2 pounds wet and can store 4 pounds dry. Works well for me no more harsh smoke.

That's what the slacker wants here~!
Thanks OC.

 

[moe.red]

This thing looks slick too. I don't know if I can do the programming he's talking about, though. His graph also shows upper 60's which I'm able to accomplish.

No worries I got that.

Id probably run it off a pi with a 3d printed box around it and a 7 inch touch screen. Use python to drive it. I could update your software remotely as we tweak things.

I got those parts lying around.

 

[moe.red]

Cannatrol 2.2 pounds wet and can store 4 pounds dry. Works well for me no more harsh smoke.

Do you use it to cure as well?

Does it have dehumidification built in? Chiller? Fresh Air Exchange?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Cannatrol 2.2 pounds wet and can store 4 pounds dry. Works well for me no more harsh smoke.

Hell yeah. If I ever hit 2 pounds I'll be giddy.

 

[moe.red]

Kalamera 80 Bottle Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler KRC-85SZF - The Home Depot

Effortlessly and safely select the perfect wine you want with the addition of this unique Kalamera 48-Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler.

www.homedepot.com

$600 tall compressor wine fridge. Looks perfect for this.

The rest I already have in the basement waiting for a use.

 

[OLDCRO]

Do you use it to cure as well?

Does it have dehumidification built in? Chiller? Fresh Air Exchange?

It runs on its own software controls dewpoint and temperature.

 

[OLDCRO]

Kalamera 80 Bottle Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler KRC-85SZF - The Home Depot

Effortlessly and safely select the perfect wine you want with the addition of this unique Kalamera 48-Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler.

www.homedepot.com

$600 tall compressor wine fridge. Looks perfect for this.

The rest I already have in the basement waiting for a use.

this is what you want

Koolatron 20 Bottle Wine Cooler, Black Thermoelectric Wine Fridge, 1.7 cu. ft. (48L), Compresser fridge to hard to control humidity​

 

[OLDCRO]

Do you use it to cure as well?

Does it have dehumidification built in? Chiller? Fresh Air Exchange?

I set the cannatrol 4 day dry 4 day cure that is factory set and im happy with that. But you can set it to whatever your heart desires.

 

[moe.red]

I set the cannatrol 4 day dry 4 day cure that is factory set and im happy with that. But you can set it to whatever your heart desires.

Trying to figure out how it works. I'm guessing it does not exchange air with the room, is that correct?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Kalamera 80 Bottle Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler KRC-85SZF - The Home Depot

Effortlessly and safely select the perfect wine you want with the addition of this unique Kalamera 48-Single Zone Freestanding Compressor Wine Cooler.

www.homedepot.com

$600 tall compressor wine fridge. Looks perfect for this.

The rest I already have in the basement waiting for a use.

How do you control the humidity in there?

 

[steamroller]

Trying to figure out how it works. I'm guessing it does not exchange air with the room, is that correct?

Cannatrol Cool Cure

Compare C, C+, C2 and OG units, stackers and accessories that dry, cure and store cannabis with precision.

www.cannatrols.com

I wish I was tech savvy.

 

[OLDCRO]

It runs on its own software controls dewpoint and temperature.

Has a couple of thermoelectric peltier coolers ,one on the bottom of cannatrol another on back wall. Im sure there is some kind of heating device inside also for temps. Has vapour drainage at rear with catch cup when drying has to be dumped a couple times in a 24 hour period.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Trying to figure out how it works. I'm guessing it does not exchange air with the room, is that correct?

they actually have a compressor for cooling and a heater to keep it perfect... i recycled one for mushrooms a few years back.

 

[moe.red]

How do you control the humidity in there?

A combination of dehumidification via the cooling coil in the fridge and humidification probably with a drip on a honeycomb with a small fan blowing thru it. Probably 3D print the honeycomb and use something like a gerbil water bottle to feed it. Control it via software to turn on the fan and open a solenoid valve to let a little water on the honeycomb if it gets too dry. Probably would not come on much, maybe in the garage in winter. Could be useful for long term storage and curing tho.

Based on my freeze drier, I'll bet the water that drains off is pretty stinky.

Start at page 24

https://www.munters.com/globalassets/documents/airt/solutions/the-dehumidification-handbook---third-edition.pdf

 

[moe.red]

they actually have a compressor for cooling and a heater to keep it perfect... i recycled one for mushrooms a few years back.

I get it. Pinpoint control in any environment.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I get it. Pinpoint control in any environment.

yep, it was also a dual zone for red and white wine so i think that's how they make that happen easier.

i wish i could hav used all the electronics for it because it had cool lighting but the thermostat would only go up so far and i needed it to 75* so i tore out all the compressor stuff, it didn't work anyway, then i kept the heater in place and used it with a new thermostat. for bud purposes you would never need it that pinpoint.

you could just get a small fridge and use that... even has a freezer for seeds!!!

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hotpoint-9-7-cu-ft-Counter-depth-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-Black/5014075367