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Pipecarver said:
Wow, those are beauties. you may need side lights along with the overhead........How much are they drinking a day?......my 5 in auto pots are going through 3.5 gal/ day and they're less than half your size.....Do you give them full time feed?
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A 1000 wt vertical in the middle would be a good idea. Drinking 5+ gallons per day.

I hand feed them every morning according to what they ate the day before. Yesterday they were feed and the ppms settled at 550. This morning they were at the same 550 (they didn't eat) so i only gave them 10 ml calmag. Theyve bean in the same water now for 25 days now without a change, So if there's no change in the ppms in the morning we'll probably do a changeout, Imo they stop eating because the ratio's are out of wack. A water and nutrient change usually gets them eating again.
 
smoke said:
A 1000 wt vertical in the middle would be a good idea. Drinking 5+ gallons per day.

I hand feed them every morning according to what they ate the day before. Yesterday they were feed and the ppms settled at 550. This morning they were at the same 550 (they didn't eat) so i only gave them 10 ml calmag. Theyve bean in the same water now for 25 days now without a change, So if there's no change in the ppms in the morning we'll probably do a changeout, Imo they stop eating because the ratio's are out of wack. A water and nutrient change usually gets them eating again.
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I haven't cleaned out my reservoir this time but I've flushed it twice now. The Auto Pot company recommends I do that every 2 weeks to flush sediment out. I've just opened the end cap and let 2 quarts pour out then closer up.....

I get some silt but not very much....it just adds to the volume of nutrients I go through this way.........my ppm is at about 1200 maybe even 1300......buts its the extra additives I use that give me such high numbers without them I'd be around 900 - 1000ppm at 6 weeks in flower....
 
Pipecarver said:
I haven't cleaned out my reservoir this time but I've flushed it twice now. The Auto Pot company recommends I do that every 2 weeks to flush sediment out. I've just opened the end cap and let 2 quarts pour out then closer up.....

I get some silt but not very much....it just adds to the volume of nutrients I go through this way.........my ppm is at about 1200 maybe even 1300......buts its the extra additives I use that give me such high numbers without them I'd be around 900 - 1000ppm at 6 weeks in flower....
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I assume your 1200 ppm is the 500 scale? most everyone quotes the tds/500 scale, i use the 700 scale because its faster to react to a ppm change. Calmag makes up over half of my total ppms.

I find calcium and magnesium needs are much earlier than this chart suggests as is P and k needs
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smoke said:
I assume your 1200 ppm is the 500 scale? most everyone quotes the tds/500 scale, i use the 700 scale because its faster to react to a ppm change. Calmag makes up over half of my total ppms.

I find calcium and magnesium needs are much earlier than this chart suggests as is P and k needs
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Yes, I guess with my house well water & the 3 part GH trio and Flurolicious Plus it has all the Ca and mag I need until 3 weeks into flower....I'd had some leaf issues starting about 3- 4 weeks then I saw this chart and started with the cal/mag at week 3 and I'm good my leaves are still nice and healthy at week 6 and beyond. I use 5ml/gal from 3 weeks to 8 then start cutting back on everything also Diamond Nectar goes in my feed in the reservoir instead of the Flurolicious for soil.
 
smoke said:
A picture is just better to show how much height we have left.View attachment 17538
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Hell yeah!
12 foot ceilings will be a must when i move again.
Ill only have a 12 plant limit so just gonna grow trees just like this cause once i move ill be growing for my father in law too so ill need trees lol
 
smoke said:
I assume your 1200 ppm is the 500 scale? most everyone quotes the tds/500 scale, i use the 700 scale because its faster to react to a ppm change. Calmag makes up over half of my total ppms.

I find calcium and magnesium needs are much earlier than this chart suggests as is P and k needs
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Curious. What adjustment would you make on your timelines?
 
https://budbuilders.org/threads/deficiency-or-nute-burn.3/post-28

I have no Idea if feeding such a low ppm throws off the nutrient ratio and causes apparent deficiencies

Im finding, basically take everything on that chart and move it all at least 2 weeks to the left.Screenshot_20230424-191824_Samsung Internet.jpg

These charts by Bill Farthing feeding by ppm and the time posted are a better idea imo

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GoodShit97 said:
Hell yeah!
12 foot ceilings will be a must when i move again.
Ill only have a 12 plant limit so just gonna grow trees just like this cause once i move ill be growing for my father in law too so ill need trees lol
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When a medical license here in montana only allowed 4 plants in flower that was our solution.
 
smoke said:
When a medical license here in montana only allowed 4 plants in flower that was our solution.
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shit man, i didn't realize Montana was legal in some regard. I debated moving out there but figured with the legalities it was more akin to Texas (which somehow became more progressive than WA in that regard) and like hell if I will live somewhere that has complete and total prohibition.
 
Laws here make no sence either. With a medical card my wife can have 4 in flower and 1 ounce of "usable" finished product on hand.

Recreational i can have 2 plants in flower, 2 in veg and unlimited finished product.

So, 2 plants are hers 2 are mine and most of the finished product is mine
 
smoke said:
Laws here make no sence either. With a medical card my wife can have 4 in flower and 1 ounce of "usable" finished product on hand.

Recreational i can have 2 plants in flower, 2 in veg and unlimited finished product.

So, 2 plants are hers 2 are mine and most of the finished product is mine
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because that makes sense. do they have any distinction between flower, extracts, edibles, etc? or is it a simple one ounce limit, regardless mode of consumption?
 
tobh said:
because that makes sense. do they have any distinction between flower, extracts, edibles, etc? or is it a simple one ounce limit, regardless mode of consumption?
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I can give away one oz of flower or 6 gms of "concentrates" no mention of edibles. The way i read it i can give you the equivalent of 1 oz at a time. No mention of how many times

Edit one oz in glove box locked per person of legal age.
 
smoke said:
Laws here make no sence either. With a medical card my wife can have 4 in flower and 1 ounce of "usable" finished product on hand.

Recreational i can have 2 plants in flower, 2 in veg and unlimited finished product.

So, 2 plants are hers 2 are mine and most of the finished product is mine
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Talk about absolutely stupid laws...they just pull that shit from a hat???

Once its finally legal to grow here next summer, itll be a 6 plant limit per adult in the house, with a 12 plant maximum per household. 6 mature 6 immature.
I can have up 3 ounces of flower or 24 grams of concentrate on me in public and up to 5 pounds stored at home. Idk how much concentrate im allowed to keep at home.
 
GoodShit97 said:
Talk about absolutely stupid laws...they just pull that shit from a hat???

Once its finally legal to grow here next summer, itll be a 6 plant limit per adult in the house, with a 12 plant maximum per household. 6 mature 6 immature.
I can have up 3 ounces of flower or 24 grams of concentrate on me in public and up to 5 pounds stored at home. Idk how much concentrate im allowed to keep at home.
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IIRC it's something like 72 grams or some insane number like that. I still don't understand why they allow such a high volume of concentrate but try to restrict flower so much. Concentrates are what make kids and animals sick, not flower. And, concentrates are easier to conceal for illicit commerce vs flower which is pungent and hard to move in bulk without serious logistical hurdles.

5lbs is a pretty respectable number, though. That's what I try to produce annually for the household and the few patients I produce for. I also voluntarily keep plant count to six in flower and don't have the space built (yet) to go perpetual so if LEO comes knockin they're gonna be sorely disappointed. Some day might try to run a SOG in the 4x4 just for the fuck around aspect. figure i can fit 64 in 4x4 rockwool cubes in a f&d table, lollipopped. Maybe yield 10g-14g per plant and still hit just under the 2lb mark for the space and lighting.

sorry for the hijack boys! as you were
 
Today i though we may be doing a water change but they picked up eating a bit so no water change today. The water is 4 weeks old tomorrow. PPM at 590.

Roots look good, liking the fibrous root structure as i believe its a sign of happy roots.

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GrumpAzz said:
What are you seeing that's telling you they want more calcium? Just curious.
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Leaf texture

Full disclosure, plant #1 and #2 were in the veg room with 2 plants in one module and tearing the roots separating them always happens. Plants 3 and 4 are better specimens than 1 and 2
 
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