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[steamroller]

Ok real pictures that are not cell phone funny color~!


^^ All 3 pics Planet of the Grapes now cut and paper bagged^^



^^ All 3 pics second Planet of the Grapes also cut and paper bagged just hours ago^^


^^ All 3 pics Mandarin Cookies R3^^


^^ All 3 pics Mandarin cookie R3 #2^^
Both are next to be cut this weekend.

Looks great steam!

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum

Even easier but not as effective is I could have said Bud Builders~!
I talked through the videos~!
Slacker for sure~!

 

[steamroller]

^^ 2 pics Fruit Punch looking real good to me^^


^^ 2 pics Fruit Punch #2^^


^^ 2 pics Zamal Dreams ^^

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend~!

 

[moe.red]

Outstanding brother! Very nice fade there on the FP.

 

[Rootsruler]

How'd the BluMats work out for you vs the watering rings you have in your pots?

 

[steamroller]

How'd the BluMats work out for you vs the watering rings you have in your pots?

Once dialed in they worked great.
But they are not the easiest to dial in.
I would be leery indoors.
I had more than a few overflows trying to adjust through the grow cycle.
I will use the blu mats again for sure.
You still have to pay attention incase one does not open up before plant gets to dry.
It is hard/ impossible unless running and you see the wet soil to know where the pot is at without lifting or moisture meter.
I still used both even today~!

 

[Rootsruler]

Once dialed in they worked great.
But they are not the easiest to dial in.
I would be leery indoors.
I had more than a few overflows trying to adjust through the grow cycle.
I will use the blu mats again for sure.
You still have to pay attention incase one does not open up before plant gets to dry.
It is hard/ impossible unless running and you see the wet soil to know where the pot is at without lifting or moisture meter.
I still used both even today~!

So would you recommend them for indoor growers? It sounds like the dialing in period is challenging. It also sounds like maintenance is just as time intensive as other irrigation systems.

I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons vs a system like the one I made which is more traditional. One of the things I like about a system like BluMat is that it feeds when the soil hits a threshold so it can feed according to plant needs rather than a schedule that the grower applies through his knowledge but if you have to monitor whether the sensing is actuating the BluMat I'm not sure how this system has an advantage over any other type of system.

I've never run them so this is not an indictment on whether they work or not but I don't see the advantages over other systems. Maybe your experience can fill in some of the knowledge gaps I have about that system.

 

[steamroller]

They don't have to be managed or maintained if you get them dialed in.
Just saying through the whole grow re adjusting them was not perfect for me.
A couple times after I adjusted improperly the plant was giving enough water to overflow the drain tray and would have kept going if I didn't check it.
Those can be credited to user error but with a finished floor I am not sure that excuse holds water.
My room is on an outdoor concrete pad so it did not matter to me but I would want everyone to know the risk involved with them.
Also adjusting them is way easier without the drip rings in place but I rarely took the time to disconnect them.

 

[Rootsruler]

They don't have to be managed or maintained if you get them dialed in.
Just saying through the whole grow re adjusting them was not perfect for me.
A couple times after I adjusted improperly the plant was giving enough water to overflow the drain tray and would have kept going if I didn't check it.
Those can be credited to user error but with a finished floor I am not sure that excuse holds water.
My room is on an outdoor concrete pad so it did not matter to me but I would want everyone to know the risk involved with them.
Also adjusting them is way easier without the drip rings in place but I rarely took the time to disconnect them.

Gotcha!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

man Steam they all look awesome!!!! i really like the look of the mandarin cookies!!!

i used to paper bag dry all the time. always worked perfect, especially this time of the year when it rains so much!!! like now!! haha i still have a nice collection of paper bags stashed away!!!

i really luv the colors in that fruit punch!!! i bet she looks amazing once dried up!!!! are you planning to take down the zamal dreams next weekend with the others?

 

[steamroller]

I may wait on the Zamal dreams.
I have no clue how long to grow a plant that is still green~!
Maybe they will all be done by next weekend?
I was kind of shocked to see the difference in the two XXX's I have.
One is nice and green like the Rum Runner and the other is close to as gold as the Planet of the grapes I chopped today.
I am kind of in a hurry for the Fruit Punch just cause it is one of the new ones for me to try.
I did videos of the room and tent today. https://budbuilders.org/threads/ste...oint-dragonsflame-zamal-dreams.311/post-66366

 

[Stoneyluv]

I may wait on the Zamal dreams.
I have no clue how long to grow a plant that is still green~!
Maybe they will all be done by next weekend?
I was kind of shocked to see the difference in the two XXX's I have.
One is nice and green like the Rum Runner and the other is close to as gold as the Planet of the grapes I chopped today.
I am kind of in a hurry for the Fruit Punch just cause it is one of the new ones for me to try.
I did videos of the room and tent today. https://budbuilders.org/threads/ste...oint-dragonsflame-zamal-dreams.311/post-66366

i'm glad you said something, i would have missed your vids!!

wow look at how much you're gonna get from the autos!! i never thought they'd even give ya that much!!

your tent is busting out at the seams!!!!! you sure do have a lot to work with for the next round!!!

 

[steamroller]

I know for fact that the Rum Runner and the slow Zamal Dreams have possibly more than 4 weeks left.
If [slacker] I could get all but the 2ZD and 1RR cut then I think I could put them in the tent and change lighting in the room for the new.
I feel like I am cheating the tent plants from a good life. I don't think they are where they would be if they were in the room under more lights.
I can't turn the light over 25% in the tent. Got funny leaves going down to tops on branches now if they have branches.
When they come out I can up pot them also.
I won't mainline any of the others since most are tall now. Yours look so much better~! A little jelly. The tent is too crowded even with the autos out.
They are actually doing better than I thought they would in 12/12.
The 2 Zamal Dreams I have going now are close to what I expect a mainline plant to be like.
2 sets of 4 tops basically close to even in each set.
I will keep stripping the bottoms and not even bother growing what won't be there in flower.
I have learned a little from this brief contact with mainlining I think already. Always looking to up the game~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

I know for fact that the Rum Runner and the slow Zamal Dreams have possibly more than 4 weeks left.

damn that long yet?!?!?! when they're ready they're ready and not until then i guess! the best part of waiting them out is they keep getting nicer looking each day!!!!

I feel like I am cheating the tent plants from a good life. I don't think they are where they would be if they were in the room under more lights.

When they come out I can up pot them also.

i bet they'll explode when you get them out in the open and give them some new soil!!

They are actually doing better than I thought they would in 12/12.

hell yeah they are!! they looked kinda wispy when you showed them last time.. now it looks like you're gonna actually get some smoke from them.. shame you don't really even know what strain they are. what lighting are autos best in? is it 20/4?

I have learned a little from this brief contact with mainlining I think already. Always looking to up the game~!

that;s what it's about for me man, even if i just take one thing from it and learn something then non of it could ever be a waste. i already know i'm not gonna have a room full of colas like i dream about, but there is gonna be something and i'm taking the entire round as a learning experience.

daylight savings tonight.. my car clock will correct again!!! and my grow light controllers will now be an hour off..

 

[steamroller]

I think 18/6 is what most do for autos.
My car clocks may be right also? I don't even know where the window switch is on any given day. I know we talked about the gas caps~!
Some how I think I figured the cars out. Even the latest that I haven't even had a year yet. Not new 2011~!
I just moved the schedule for the flower plants since I am gone all day. They were 6-6 but now 8-8. They didn't care I left them on for 2 extra hours one day.
So tomorrow they will be 7-7 and maybe I can right out there and start trimming more early.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I think 18/6 is what most do for autos.
My car clocks may be right also? I don't even know where the window switch is on any given day. I know we talked about the gas caps~!
Some how I think I figured the cars out. Even the latest that I haven't even had a year yet. Not new 2011~!
I just moved the schedule for the flower plants since I am gone all day. They were 6-6 but now 8-8. They didn't care I left them on for 2 extra hours one day.
So tomorrow they will be 7-7 and maybe I can right out there and start trimming more early.

i say twice a year that i'm not changing the controller clocks at all... and then every single time i walk by the controllers the wrong clock number haunts me and drives me insane for two days until i give in and change it!!! is this what ocd is? ..

here's one for ya... so we have an older jeep xj that has that deal where the doors lock when you drive it so every time you get out ya gotta hit the door unlock to open the back doors.. most of the time i just forget!! but you would think after all these years i'd know where the lock button is and which direction to push it... nope!!! not once.. always looking.. try one way hear nothing, try the other way till it makes noise... every time!!!

 

[steamroller]

I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~!

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~!

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.

i was just thinking i need to adjust something because i'm using that far red puck and that's on a smart timer that works off my router which auto changes. i need to just turn that thing off completely, i feel it's doing absolutely nothing for me.

years ago i was working in japan for a over a month so i had to drive on the other side of the road the whole time. when i came home a care service dropped me off so i didn't drive yet since being there. well that next morning i had to run an errand and i was driving alone and got to an intersection to turn left and there was no other traffic around at all and i remember just stopping on the road because i couldn't remember which lane i should turn onto!!!!! i just sat there for a minute thinking about it!!!! of coarse jet lag and having a lower weed tolerance didn't help but yeah not one of my prouder moments!!!

 

[steamroller]

i was just thinking i need to adjust something because i'm using that far red puck and that's on a smart timer that works off my router which auto changes. i need to just turn that thing off completely, i feel it's doing absolutely nothing for me.

I know I followed Moes info on the far red and he said they made little to no difference so they have not caught my interest.
I am interested in lights with adjustable spectrum though.
I don't think I will just go and replace my lights but they have had several grows and are not the best lights out there so I am preparing my mind to re invest properly.
Cut the 2 Mandarin cookies this morning. May get back out there for more before races.
Just seems some of these are drying out so I got to get them before it is too late.
My humidity in the room is under 40% even with the humidifier going at 55%. Probably from exhausting warm air and intaking fresh cool air?
May be able to seal the room again and use the AC instead of heater to help with RH.
I think the heater is off the last couple nights since a short power failure. It is digital and on an InkBird controller so always looks like it is off during the warm time.
Room has only gone down to 60f at night for a low so if winter does not completely return sealing it up may help with the RH.
All my procrastinating about sealing the room [running the duct work] has paid off again as I have come up with another twist that may help keep me from losing all the moisture that the loop pulls out.
Got the duct work running from exhaust fan across top of room and pitched properly.
I was going to let it have a small drain to drip into a Rubbermaid at a 90 and then continue to the intake fan.
Now I think I will run the duct right into the Rubbermaid top and draw air out from the side.
This will possibly act like a humidifier with all the air having to pass over the water in the barrel. Maybe add an airstone to help even.

Got a little experiment happening also. Last grow was in 5g buckets and this is 3g pots but many repeat strains.
I was thorough cutting and weighing the last grow so after these dry I can compare my take.
First look at the PG and MC says they are very close, but the scale will tell the tale.

 

[Bandit420]

I always thought far red was just a part of what lights should already have. The pucks don't make sense to me and remind me of Kessil lights back in the early days of LED grow lights. Sure they were a usable spectrum but only covered maybe a 2" diameter.
I was reading specs the other day on some brand of light somebody here was using and the supplemental pucks just made no sense at all. It had me wondering if the people making those lights had ever grow a plant with them

And yeah...my CLW timers are separated by 4 seconds. It's irritating and fucks with my OCD but I took some online therapy sessions, did some yoga, and cussed out a random little kid so now I can cope with that 4 second lapse

 

[Rootsruler]

I always thought far red was just a part of what lights should already have. The pucks don't make sense to me and remind me of Kessil lights back in the early days of LED grow lights. Sure they were a usable spectrum but only covered maybe a 2" diameter.
I was reading specs the other day on some brand of light somebody here was using and the supplemental pucks just made no sense at all. It had me wondering if the people making those lights had ever grow a plant with them

And yeah...my CLW timers are separated by 4 seconds. It's irritating and fucks with my OCD but I took some online therapy sessions, did some yoga, and cussed out a random little kid so now I can cope with that 4 second lapse

Back when they didn't have readily made pucks people were using reptile bulbs for UV. I remember a friend that had heard about how they really increased the potency of your smoke got really excited and was telling me about how great his smoke was going to be. He found out later that the bulb only affected the immediate area where the bulb was placed and not the whole plant.

 

[MDK]

Looks great steam!

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum

Need to just get ya a bud builders banner dude. That would be actually a really cool idea to draw up something then people can buy or maybe make special ones that say picture of the month winner on them

 

[Observer]

So I also now have pistils on London Pound Cake.
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^^Tall Purple Crunch^^
Buds are doing well.
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Happy Wednesday~!

That leaf falling off there gave me the idea of timing the nutrition to just that, when the buds get exactly what they need, "sucking" the rest of the nutrients from the other leafs as the buds finish up, self trimming plant.

 

[Observer]

Looks great steam!

With all the views we get on imgur, I've been kicking around the idea of putting up a sign in my room that reads "See more of this grow at Bud Builders.org" and maybe grab more members to the forum

I attempt similar on reddit sometimes

 

[Habosabin]

I have a question. What would happen if I just stopped watering and let the plant die in the pot and dry in the pot versus cutting and hanging? Would the slow death cause any stress reaction and more terps? Or does the fast chop preserve terps?

 

[steamroller]

That leaf falling off there gave me the idea of timing the nutrition to just that, when the buds get exactly what they need, "sucking" the rest of the nutrients from the other leafs as the buds finish up, self trimming plant.

I am the last one to say if the buds have had enough.
I am sure they could have been bigger, but not this time.
I don't have full control but yea I love easy clean.
I just cut 4 1/2 plants in the last 2 days and they are trimmed completely.
Maybe a quick sweep with a silicone BBQ brush wfter drying would be considered completely manicured.
I only had to cut like 2-4 sugar leaves per bud it seemed like~!

I have a question. What would happen if I just stopped watering and let the plant die in the pot and dry in the pot versus cutting and hanging? Would the slow death cause any stress reaction and more terps? Or does the fast chop preserve terps?

I cut them while still in the pot. Even just left 1/2 of The Grape Balls of Fire still in the pot so I can catch racing~!
My shop is cold now like 40f so I just bagged the buds in paper and am flipping them back and forth from the room to shop.
Not sure if one way or the other would do anything different for terps. I can't kill the lights in the room so I don't want them dying till I have time to trim them.
I do believe I have seen people just let the plant dry out still in pot. But not with lights still running.
Here is the trouble I have had, the sugar leaves are drying out but under the lights still they shrivel back into the bud instead of fall off.
Part of how and why I am saying some of these are done. Big PIA for the few that have shriveled leaves on/in them.
I would think preservation of terps is all on temp, RH and light.

 

[Observer]

I am the last one to say if the buds have had enough.
I am sure they could have been bigger, but not this time.
I don't have full control but yea I love easy clean.
I just cut 4 1/2 plants in the last 2 days and they are trimmed completely.
Maybe a quick sweep with a silicone BBQ brush wfter drying would be considered completely manicured.
I only had to cut like 2-4 sugar leaves per bud it seemed like~!

I cut them while still in the pot. Even just left 1/2 of The Grape Balls of Fire still in the pot so I can catch racing~!
My shop is cold now like 40f so I just bagged the buds in paper and am flipping them back and forth from the room to shop.
Not sure if one way or the other would do anything different for terps. I can't kill the lights in the room so I don't want them dying till I have time to trim them.
I do believe I have seen people just let the plant dry out still in pot. But not with lights still running.
Here is the trouble I have had, the sugar leaves are drying out but under the lights still they shrivel back into the bud instead of fall off.
Part of how and why I am saying some of these are done. Big PIA for the few that have shriveled leaves on/in them.

I would think preservation of terps is all on temp, RH and light.

Anything above 68f, volatile hydrocarbons *
(Terpenes) can start to "evaporate"

 

[Observer]

I wasn't joking about window switch~!
The Crossfire has them on the middle console.
Lost when I get in it, lost after I get out~!

I don't think that is OCD, I think it just wanting things right. You couldn't last 2 days OCD.
None of my controllers or thermometers are set for right time.
My timers are close enough for shits and giggles.

My god

Lol

 

[Stoneyluv]

I know I followed Moes info on the far red and he said they made little to no difference so they have not caught my interest.
I am interested in lights with adjustable spectrum though.
I don't think I will just go and replace my lights but they have had several grows and are not the best lights out there so I am preparing my mind to re invest properly.
Cut the 2 Mandarin cookies this morning. May get back out there for more before races.
Just seems some of these are drying out so I got to get them before it is too late.
My humidity in the room is under 40% even with the humidifier going at 55%. Probably from exhausting warm air and intaking fresh cool air?
May be able to seal the room again and use the AC instead of heater to help with RH.
I think the heater is off the last couple nights since a short power failure. It is digital and on an InkBird controller so always looks like it is off during the warm time.
Room has only gone down to 60f at night for a low so if winter does not completely return sealing it up may help with the RH.
All my procrastinating about sealing the room [running the duct work] has paid off again as I have come up with another twist that may help keep me from losing all the moisture that the loop pulls out.
Got the duct work running from exhaust fan across top of room and pitched properly.
I was going to let it have a small drain to drip into a Rubbermaid at a 90 and then continue to the intake fan.
Now I think I will run the duct right into the Rubbermaid top and draw air out from the side.
This will possibly act like a humidifier with all the air having to pass over the water in the barrel. Maybe add an airstone to help even.

Got a little experiment happening also. Last grow was in 5g buckets and this is 3g pots but many repeat strains.
I was thorough cutting and weighing the last grow so after these dry I can compare my take.
First look at the PG and MC says they are very close, but the scale will tell the tale.

choppin?!?!?!?! NICE!!!!! i looked at mine last night and couldn;'t decide so i left them alone.

if you only dropped to 60 you should be good, it got pretty chilly here last night.. the forecast shows some pretty warm days coming up so there's a chance you may not even get down to the 60 again. i'd roll the dice, fix it when it's nice out and convenient.

i like your idea with the drip loop going back into the rubbermaid.. thats recycling!!!

i way overdid my container size this round! my little plants wobble around in all that soil right now. i'm not tossing the used soil when i'm done, i'll refresh it and use it again. i plan to flower the mainliners in 3 gallon... your buds will be dry enough by time i have to decide so i'm very curious what you think.

 

[Rootsruler]

Need to just get ya a bud builders banner dude. That would be actually a really cool idea to draw up something then people can buy or maybe make special ones that say picture of the month winner on them

Cool BB stickers would be great. Something like the current BB logo that's on the site but with stoner art like the one in my avatar. Ed Roth/Rat Fink stickers with BB logo would be cool too!

 

[MDK]

Those pics remind me of this