The Newbie goes indoors

[Observer]

I have a good idea why you are having problems with the plants. I started by looking at all of your pictures and everyone of them the soil is very moist.

agree with anthem 110%

Those moisture meters do not really work.

yea they kinda suck honestly.

I would suggest as noted above, lift the pot and when the pot is really light water the plants.
If you do not allow for proper dry backs the plant is basically drowning. The roots need water but they also need Oxygen.

@Kopper1013 watering is crucial, easy to over-water and drown em out in Soil, takes longer for drybacks too, ime.

 

[Observer]

also

youre PPFD or day hours may be too intense or too long.

 

[Kopper1013]

Update:
Girls are doing well! Liven their new digs. Watered them Tuesday and didn’t check on them until today and they’ve really taken off.

Thinking about taking out the small light and turning on the big light…thoughts? How will I know if it’s still to much or not enough for them??

 

[Rootsruler]

Update:
Girls are doing well! Liven their new digs. Watered them Tuesday and didn’t check on them until today and they’ve really taken off.

Thinking about taking out the small light and turning on the big light…thoughts? How will I know if it’s still to much or not enough for them??

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Download a light meter app for your phone. This will give you a ballpark as to how much light your plants are getting.

 

[Kopper1013]

Update:
Got the tent set up but still working to dial in the humidity swings.
Got the exhaust on the lowest setting but when it comes on it still manages to drop about 8% like it’s just to big for the 5 x 5 space… I’m managing to keep temps between 79 and 82 with a target of 81.
Got some cupping on the leaves and posted a thread trying to figure out the possible causes?

 

[Rootsruler]

Update:
Got the tent set up but still working to dial in the humidity swings.
Got the exhaust on the lowest setting but when it comes on it still manages to drop about 8% like it’s just to big for the 5 x 5 space… I’m managing to keep temps between 79 and 82 with a target of 81.
Got some cupping on the leaves and posted a thread trying to figure out the possible causes?
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Is your light too intense? When it does that it's usually too intense a light.

 

[Kopper1013]

I was guessing heat or wind the light is on its lowest setting

 

[steamroller]

Can you raise the light higher from plant tops?

 

[Kopper1013]

Can you raise the light higher from plant tops?

no the filter is touching the top of the tent and the top of the light

 

[Observer]

I was guessing heat or wind the light is on its lowest setting

Usually heat and humidity

What's ur rh

PPFD plays a role too ofc

 

[Observer]

Update:
Got the tent set up but still working to dial in the humidity swings.
Got the exhaust on the lowest setting but when it comes on it still manages to drop about 8% like it’s just to big for the 5 x 5 space… I’m managing to keep temps between 79 and 82 with a target of 81.
Got some cupping on the leaves and posted a thread trying to figure out the possible causes?
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What is you're Rh when you're temps are 78-82

Do u have an IR temp gun can you measure the LST leaf surface temp

 

[Observer]

Update:
Girls are doing well! Liven their new digs. Watered them Tuesday and didn’t check on them until today and they’ve really taken off.

Thinking about taking out the small light and turning on the big light…thoughts? How will I know if it’s still to much or not enough for them??

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They will droop away from it, or they'll reach towards it.

 

[Observer]

Update:
Girls are doing well! Liven their new digs. Watered them Tuesday and didn’t check on them until today and they’ve really taken off.

Thinking about taking out the small light and turning on the big light…thoughts? How will I know if it’s still to much or not enough for them??

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I don't think you need the big led right now.

What's the current panel and %power setting

 

[Kopper1013]

What is you're Rh when you're temps are 78-82

Do u have an IR temp gun can you measure the LST leaf surface temp

Exhaust fan kicks on at 69% then shuts off but it’ll drop down to 61-62% before climbing again

I don't think you need the big led right now.

What's the current panel and %power setting

The only other light I have is to small to get them under, the big light is set at 1 out of 10

 

[Observer]

Exhaust fan kicks on at 69% then shuts off but it’ll drop down to 61-62% before climbing again

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61-62% does not sound too low.

The only other light I have is to small to get them under, the big light is set at 1 out of 10

ok cool, thats fine, keep it at 1 for rn and lets see what they say, cant raise LED up even an inch?

if you would like, you can try 78-84F 62-68% RH &

what is you're fan(s) speed setting/air movement like in the tent?

 

[Kopper1013]

VPD Chart | AROYA

VPD Chart

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61-62% does not sound too low.

ok cool, thats fine, keep it at 1 for rn and lets see what they say, cant raise LED up even an inch?

if you would like, you can try 78-84F 62-68% RH &

what is you're fan(s) speed setting/air movement like in the tent?

Fan is running low exhaust is on lowest setting as well.
Light is pinned really
I did adjust the fan so it’s not blowing directly on them for now

 

[Observer]

Fan is running low exhaust is on lowest setting as well.
Light is pinned really
I did adjust the fan so it’s not blowing directly on them for now

ok lets see how those adjustments do

and you recently put them under the bigger light?
give em some time to adjust too

 

[Observer]

are you still on 20/4 ?

 

[Rootsruler]

Fan is running low exhaust is on lowest setting as well.
Light is pinned really
I did adjust the fan so it’s not blowing directly on them for now

Yes. Could just be wind burn.

 

[Kopper1013]

are you still on 20/4 ?

Still running 20/4. Since a heavy watering and adjusting the fan they seem to have recovered some, hopefully it was just a case of negligence

 

[Observer]

Still running 20/4. Since a heavy watering and adjusting the fan they seem to have recovered some, hopefully it was just a case of negligence

Photoperiods or autos

 

[SSgrower]

What LED is he using in the 5x5? Too hot on setting 1? Grand Master Level? Is the tent 6 or 61/2ft. tall? SS

 

[Kopper1013]

What LED is he using in the 5x5? Too hot on setting 1? Grand Master Level? Is the tent 6 or 61/2ft. tall? SS

Lol this is my light

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Coverage-Spectrum-Dimmable-2592pcs/dp/B08SPXD8JX?pd_rd_w=3tUTH&content-id=amzn1.sym.b854a5c2-4475-41f8-a6d4-df92b2868104&pf_rd_p=b854a5c2-4475-41f8-a6d4-df92b2868104&pf_rd_r=0AGH33XGQEAH8G3QNNKQ&pd_rd_wg=c0Nda&pd_rd_r=5fd6fbef-b277-44ac-b7e6-d261faeb46f6&pd_rd_i=B08SPXD8JX&psc=1&ref_=pd_basp_m_rpt_ba_s_2_sc

I find it hard to believe it’s to much but it’s definitely on level 1

 

[Kopper1013]

Still running 20/4. Since a heavy watering and adjusting the fan they seem to have recovered some, hopefully it was just a case of negligence

Photos

 

[SSgrower]

My 4x4 has a Philzon FD4500 , how tall is your tent?

 

[Kopper1013]

My 4x4 has a Philzon FD4500 , how tall is your tent?

80”
These are the lady’s as of yesterday
Look better but not great…maybe these leaves won’t fully recover from damage already done off maybe there is still a mite issue ?

 

[Kopper1013]

Update y’all:

So it’s decision time! Kill’em or go for it and up pot them.
The girls are getting rather large and I like to get them bagged and under SCROG if they’re worth continuing.
They’re showing some burns on the lower leaves but I think that’s nutrients as I’ve been feeding every watering instead of every other
I lowered temps a couple degrees and humidity some just to see how the would react, they seem to be happy but there’s still the chipping I’m worried about…. I’m going to post this in my other thread to get as many options as possible before I make a bad call one way or another…. Thanks y’all

 

[Kopper1013]

I check them every day with a 60x loop, I’ve pulled stems, leaves, bent stuff over looked every but I haven’t seen a mite yet but also haven’t cured the issue so…..

 

[Ikilledit]

Hey @Kopper1013 Hope the plants are doing well. Any progress as of late?

 

[Kopper1013]

Hey @Kopper1013 Hope the plants are doing well. Any progress as of late?

Girls got up potted to their final bags yesterday, waiting on some saucer trays to elevate them (which are supposed to come tomorrow) then I’ll post some pictures.
Honestly not much has changed. The big water leaves aren’t really clawing any more but the new growth is still twisty but maybe that’s just cause the newer more delicate stuff growth is still fighting the N?
The young growth from we’ll say a week or more back has straightened out as it’s matured.

I will say this DON’T GET YOU SHOP VAC TO CLOSE TO YOU BRANCHES Sucks them right up and it almost sounds like they’re screaming/crying and the air rips their leaves off fucken rookie