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Thanks bro, I will check that one out,@SweetLeafGrow
The bugbee thread, one of those he talks about spectrum and essentially, what photomorphogenesis is.
There's gonna be a lot of us that can't open that linkbut heres some more discussion on it.
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Yeah I'd need a damn bank loan to buy something like that. Full retail is more than i make in a month lmfao.The Smell of Panic at The Farm - Hello Logic
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I picked up my Raging Kush for $995 refurbished. I talked to the company before purchase and these lights were basically shipping damaged, repaired and could not be sold as new. I was looking and those are no longer available. I'm seeing a big difference in this light over the Spider Farmer SE3000. Compare the grow I just harvested with the one under the Raging Kush that will finish in about 4 more weeks. So far, the difference is striking and these flowers have a long way to go still. We'll all know more in about a month.
Yeah definitely have plenty of options, it's just my budget is it small lmao.There are less expensive options if you want to dip into spectrum control. Bought a CLW SS500 and controller for about $600 when they were on sale. Seen significant results already and I'm very much a fat-fingered noob w it. It's a beast little package w an fairly attainable entry price for spectrum fuckery imo.
I hear that dude, everything was relatively inexpensive until I looked at light upgrades lol. Big oof.Yeah definitely have plenty of options, it's just my budget is it small lmao.
I'll check it outThere are less expensive options if you want to dip into spectrum control. Bought a CLW SS500 and controller for about $600 when they were on sale. Seen significant results already and I'm very much a fat-fingered noob w it. It's a beast little package w an fairly attainable entry price for spectrum fuckery imo.
So true man. Thats why i bought the phlizon pl4500 cause it was on sale already and i used a coupon code and saved even more, i got it for 184 shipped to my door lol.I hear that dude, everything was relatively inexpensive until I looked at light upgrades lol. Big oof.
Spectrum tuning is definitely something im interesting in playing around with and learning more about.My feeling on spectrum control is that it is the next most important variable once you have a dialed in grow and process. Adding it to a mess is not going to help.
More important than CO2. Less important than environmental control.
Also, it is better if you run this in a growspace where you are monocropping. If you have a sativa next to an indica, they need different spectrums so that can be a problem.
Supplemental lighting can help, especially when outside of the standard PAR range (uv and far red) and those do not have huge PPFD needs to initiate plant hormonal responses. But if you are trying to change plant morphology in the PAR range, you need a lot more PPFD out of those lights. Most have minimal PPFD in the variable color ranges.
And Green is a good thing in Veg. It stimulates photosynthesis deeper in the tissue. But it needs to come out in flower, as it has been shown to limit THC if you run it thru flower.
Of course, this is all just my working position, and this is all subject to change as I continue to test and learn.
Ask me how I know this is trueAdding it to a mess is not going to help.
Right onMy feeling on spectrum control is that it is the next most important variable once you have a dialed in grow and process. Adding it to a mess is not going to help.
More important than CO2. Less important than environmental control.
Also, it is better if you run this in a growspace where you are monocropping. If you have a sativa next to an indica, they need different spectrums so that can be a problem.
Supplemental lighting can help, especially when outside of the standard PAR range (uv and far red) and those do not have huge PPFD needs to initiate plant hormonal responses. But if you are trying to change plant morphology in the PAR range, you need a lot more PPFD out of those lights. Most have minimal PPFD in the variable color ranges.
And Green is a good thing in Veg. It stimulates photosynthesis deeper in the tissue. But it needs to come out in flower, as it has been shown to limit THC if you run it thru flower.
Of course, this is all just my working position, and this is all subject to change as I continue to test and learn.
Dude I torched fans in the center of my canopy pretty good, too much red(I suspect) and didnt check ppfd during/after stretch. What got me is it doesnt look nearly as bright as it measures when running red dominant. I am noob.Ask me how I know this is true
Ask me how I know this is true
This is the CLW fixture right? Spectrum control?Dude I torched fans in the center of my canopy pretty good, too much red(I suspect) and didnt check ppfd during/after stretch. What got me is it doesnt look nearly as bright as it measures when running red dominant. I am noob.
This would be a sweet thread to get going so when I do have spectrum control, I'll have a frame of reference to help guide me.This is the CLW fixture right? Spectrum control?
We need to start a spectrum control thread to share our results. Seems like they are a thing now.
Yeah the CLW, sorry sometimes forget I'm in other people's threads.This is the CLW fixture right? Spectrum control?
We need to start a spectrum control thread to share our results. Seems like they are a thing now.
This is the CLW fixture right? Spectrum control?
We need to start a spectrum control thread to share our results. Seems like they are a thing now.
This would be a sweet thread to get going so when I do have spectrum control, I'll have a frame of reference to help guide me.
Man you got a lot going on there.Got in and trimmed up most of the plants in my 3x3.
Unknown sativa from @Zen_seeker
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Apples and Bananas from @SweetLeafGrow
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Green Crack and a real sour clone
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Anither real sour clone and a Peanut Butter Breath clone. View attachment 18713
Jawbreaker and Mendels Aether x GDP
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At one point i had 32 plants between 3 tents lol. Im definitely not @ObserverMan you got a lot going on there.
Ok, Grand Master Level is studying spectrum and have a light that does the HPS spectrum, They are studying a lot of factors such as UVB, as Moe stated, we are "Early" in research so not much development, unless you consider going from CMH & HPS to the New LEDs. I have a 450w. Philzon with a nice spectrum 6 bar in a 4x4. Cheers guys,SSSpectrum tuning is definitely something im interesting in playing around with and learning more about.
I agree, just thought it was a cool trait.The variegation thing has always made me say hum.
Not sure what is all about but as a different type of breeder I would not want it. Maybe I would be interested in it but I would have to separate them from other breeding stock.
The crossing of 'this and that' is not how champion breeders operate.
The results may well be within 'acceptable' results but if they were my breeding stock they would be culled.
Culled does not mean killed, but rather removed from the breeding line.
Just me maybe?
Beyond that they look good if you know where they are going.