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No excuses, go RO lol.
Should be able to under 300, 250 maybe.Why not install RO system?
RO/Filters > micron filters > resevoir (inject o2 with concentrator or bubble significantly) no more bacterial growth.
Uv filter/hypo acid/h2o2/high DO (15-40mg/l), treated, oxygenated clean water ready for use.
Should be able to under 300, 250 maybe.
Here you go with RO info.
This site is has great videos and articles on how to do just about anything with RO.
It is where I got my RO/DI and pump but not the cheapest.
You can buy any normal size set up and use the best cartridges from these guys.
'll tell you right out you can easily send the waste water out of your basement 20 feet away from the unit up hill no problems.
They are way easier then most think.
You want the pre pump and 150GPD to have the most efficiency.
If I wasn't fuckin career-less and homeless I'd be running RO for water base, UV filter and oxygenate up to 40mg/l for aero and dwc atleast, micron filters for any particulates that may clog my nozzles.
Any anaerobic bacteria or fungis should have a hard time multiplying
And you already got the UV bulbs, they make inline water UV filters too, could just run one of those with ur rain waterThanks man, thats already more than i knew a few minutes ago.
i have to imagine my filters wouldn't clog so much since the water is pretty clean to begin with.
i had no idea the pumps were like that... not what i had pictured in my head or the tubbing size.
i mean i can't imagine there is gonna be anything in the waste water that i don't want so i would plan to just send it right back to the rain collector again. my problem wasn't high ppm mine starts out a zero. my problem was bacterial or viral. i'm not sure an RO can filter those things.
i'm leaning the UV side right now. i have two extra 36watt UV filters left over from my pond that i'm not using anymore. i know i had algae before and for at least that part i could zap it and maybe anything else i don't want. i could set up a constant loop that would just UV the whole tote of water every ten minutes or something like that.
i think first i really need to get my water tested and see if i can find out what the problem was or still is, i won't know for another few weeks because everything looks great in the beginning until the three week mark. so i won't really know if i still have this issue or not for another month. i'm already taking the risk in seed money so i'm not about to risk anymore money on a problem i may or may not have yet.. time will tell!!!!
I wish someone would have told me this beforeNo excuses, go RO lol.
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tried out some bags i never used before, only fifty cents a piece... i like em.. passed all my tests. picked up some more silly containers too.. i don't know where these things go all the time.. my house just seems to suck these things up like a vacuum or something!!! they were cheap too and i don't dislike any of the colors so win win...
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a little pre rootin for my man!!
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And you already got the UV bulbs, they make inline water UV filters too, could just run one of those with ur rain water
I wish someone would have told me this before
nice rosin!
Funny, i've only bought bags once, and I got those same ones lol. I like them, but have zero to compare with. good to know they are good from someone who knows!
Sounds like you are on the right track with the water, and that worm could prolly tell us the story, lol
sucks, but always feels great to be able to address a problem you are aware of then shoot in the dark, less fun, but more productive lol
I used the green killing machine in my tanks.
It is a reasonably priced stand alone unit.
Pump and all in one.
You too lolI wish someone would have told me this before
nice rosin!
Funny, i've only bought bags once, and I got those same ones lol. I like them, but have zero to compare with. good to know they are good from someone who knows!
Sounds like you are on the right track with the water, and that worm could prolly tell us the story, lol
sucks, but always feels great to be able to address a problem you are aware of then shoot in the dark, less fun, but more productive lol
Should be able to under 300, 250 maybe.
Sweet, I might of lowballed a little but Definitely worth for me/imo.For gardening, $75 can give you 50 gallons/day per year then replace filters each year. Simple plug and play into a garden hose.
But if you want whole house except for toilet yep it gets very spendy at $350 minimum
For gardening, $75 can give you 50 gallons/day per year then replace filters each year. Simple plug and play into a garden hose.
But if you want whole house except for toilet yep it gets very spendy at $350 minimum
i'd need a booster pump as well so i need to factor that cost in along with filter. i also need to find out if the pump would be able to work with gravity pressures under 5psi.
like i said, i'm not saying no to RO, i need to get more info is all. like the things you showed me have the water saving and the smart booster pump clams it reduces 65% of waste.. i need to do some math and see how much volume, time, and money all this is costing me.
i also fully understand this is not just to grow hydro, this would need to be for all my gardening so it's not just another hydro expense.
but it's gonna be more than $75 i'm sure.
I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.i would need a booster pump. and need to be careful where i mounted it because i don't have a good drain downstairs, it's just a french drain and can't handle that kind of volume.
Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.what i would really like to look into is if it's possible to run my rain water through an R/O filter?
Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.i'm just not fond of all the water i wastes. just against my ethics is all and it the real deal breaker ATM and not the cost.
This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.looking for nice A to B run. no drama!
I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.
Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.
I quoted all these so by george I'm gonna use 'em whether or not the questions got answered already.
Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.
This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.
I don't think you need RO to garden since you're already at 0ppm. I just mentioned it for using in a humidifier so the water is purified and wondering if the slime would still occur in RO water since things like mosquitoes don't get into RO until it's polluted.
Like others mentioned about the vinegar doing the same or maybe even lemon juice.
IDK if your grocery store or even like the Lowes has those big water jugs for like office water dispensers? But that's RO water in those jugs so you could get that to test out if RO would help before actually getting into a system.
If you or Observer were to get into RO, a system you would use for gardening and home are two totally different things.
For Observer, I assume he would be going off city tap from a garden hose or kitchen/bathroom sink so a basic 3 stage would be more than adequate. If there's other shit in the water the 3 cant get out, usually chloramine or ions, then other stages of filter would be needed.
By and large though, 3 is fine for gardening and organics like making teas and the $65-$75 systems from Aquatic Life fits that.
Then yeah for you a pump like the 1/10HP from HF and an electric float valve would easily double that and then some.
I have a piggyback float valve for that type of a system so if you ever need lemme know. It'll save anywhere from $20-$100 being where those things price out at
I think Steam mentioned, it comes out of the waste line with decent pressure and flow. It could send it wherever you needed it to.
Absolutely, but you guys got that in the works.
I quoted all these so by george I'm gonna use 'em whether or not the questions got answered already.
Can you save it? @Bandit420, what's the waste consist of? Could he collect it and use it elsewhere? I need to look that up cuz now I'm curious.
This is it man.. Just keep it between the ditches and drive her home. You got this.
Waste water has what the source water had in it but certain things have been removed (first 2 stages have physical and carbon filters) but things not collected prior to the RO membrane are actually increased in concentration
Example of sodium. Input is 50 ppm, RO output is 0 ppm but waste is now 100ppm.
Things that can be removed by carbon are in fact removed and not sent back to the waste.
Most bacteria and viruses are filtered by the membrane. Those get washed back into the waste as well.
I can see a scenario where it makes sense to run the waste back to the rain barrel. If you have sodium in your source water this would not work well because your input water would constantly increase in sodium levels eventually to a harmful level. You would have to drain the source periodically. But with rain water there should not be sodium or heavy metals or other nasty stuff that would build up over time and cause issues.
When I flip my system to collect RO, the waste line runs out to irrigate trees during the drought. Trees love it probably because the nitrates are concentrated. It's not toxic but could be brackish depending on the source water. In theory I really don't waste a single drop but when I run RO, only 1/2 the water gets used in my garden and that waste goes back into the Earth.
Rain barrel RO systems are quite common here. My neighbor is off grid with solar and rain and their system is whole house RO off three 1000g rain water tanks. So even though he collects 3000 gallons of rain, only 1500 are harvested and last him thru the year and the waste goes into his garden.
But for growing pot?
Just need two or more 55g barrels for a grow the size of yours or Stoney's. The bigger the rain collector the better but the usable collection only needs to be around 50 gallons.
One barrel collects rain. A pump, usually inline 1/10th HP minimum, moves water from the rain collector thru the filter and then into the collection barrel to be collected and used.
Where you and I get away with using a float valve shut off at the top of our collection tank to prevent overflow, a rain barrel system would put a piggyback cord float valve on a tether in the bottom of the rain barrel. It's placement would be set to the same height from the bottom of the barrel as the height which you would want it to stop filling in the collection barrel. You would do that so power is cut to the pump and does not burn up pumping a dry barrel.
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ahhh i'm sorry i misunderstood ya... i got ya now. makes me think though, this adds more puzzle pieces to it.. i used that water in my other humidifier for years and never had any of that, the old one i would have to take it apart to fill it so i see the guts every time and always clean. it's only been this recent water causing it in this humidifier i bet.
i use one of these under my kitchen sink for drinking water and coffee makers and stuff..
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it works great with my tap water and nothing scales from it. i also have the same one downstairs plumbed to my ice maker.. i could easily tap a tee in that line and run a valve next to my humidifier and just use that water for it next winter. i'll see how all this goes first.
i've been trying to keep it between the mayo and the mustard for three grows now!!! one of these just has to stick!!! ( i hope)
yea, i can't do that!! i would just be asking for problems down the road. the waste would have to be wasted and just the way it is.
so i assume if the bacteria and virus' are small enough they pass through the RO membrane? where a UV would kill 99.9%? this is probably the same equal efficiency in removing bacteria and virus'
i have to assume thats what i had, one of those. i've ruled out russet mites from the two hour inspection i did over the weekend.
i mean i guess this test right here answers all that, right? with the peroxide it takes bacteria and virus' out the equation, correct?
if i just hold the h2o2 levels at like ten for the first month i'll know if the problem is gone.. i think i'd just like to know that it's possible to grow right now and if this problems continue i can 100% rule out water? if the problem goes away then i'll be down to try some other way out to clean the water.
this is how i'm thinking in my head, dos that all sound accurate from your screen?
wait up so you're saying i can run an RO filter from a submersible pump? the big ones have enough pressure? i have a few of them here.
huh?? how were you controlling it all this time? saw there was a new firmware update a week or so ago,, added some feature in the lighting but i haven't figured out what it does yet, too lazy to look it up,, haha
but i thought you always had the app and thats how you used it even until you learned you can just double click the power button? i'm confused.
how are liking your new austin glass?
Bacteria and viruses are mostly removed by the RO membrane. Only the very smallest can get thru.so i assume if the bacteria and virus' are small enough they pass through the RO membrane? where a UV would kill 99.9%? this is probably the same equal efficiency in removing bacteria and virus'
i have to assume thats what i had, one of those. i've ruled out russet mites from the two hour inspection i did over the weekend.
i mean i guess this test right here answers all that, right? with the peroxide it takes bacteria and virus' out the equation, correct?
if i just hold the h2o2 levels at like ten for the first month i'll know if the problem is gone.. i think i'd just like to know that it's possible to grow right now and if this problems continue i can 100% rule out water? if the problem goes away then i'll be down to try some other way out to clean the water.
this is how i'm thinking in my head, dos that all sound accurate from your screen?
Yeah man.. it's all easy peasy considering the scope of some of your other projects.
My only thoughts after Bandit's points, I don't know if I'd go with that large of a submersible. I'm just thinking of how long it might be running to get 50-100 gallons of RO and envision it heating up the water. Maybe that's not an issue, though. My resevoir sits until I run out of top-off water...
Either way, I'd got with a transfer pump and a pressure switch. Something like this...
Float valve in the resevoir will let this little thing shut the pump off when it's full.![]()
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