Stoney's Luv Shack

[Zen_seeker]

Very cool. I’m glad you guys can do these tests and experiments. With my small plant limit every experiment is a high risk that could lower my harvest or quality.

Each result saves me time and expense. So thanks guys.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Very cool. I’m glad you guys can do these tests and experiments. With my small plant limit every experiment is a high risk that could lower my harvest or quality.

Each result saves me time and expense. So thanks guys.

in my honest opinion man there was nothing short to the noveg except for time and power bills. in fact, according to my personal meters along with my power company bill that i just received today that this was my cheapest grow in years. even though veg is not at full power the month or more less of growing really made a difference on my wattage totals.

i'm shocked how the yield just found it's way in there. it didn't feel like it as the grow was going but in the end it all caught up. i really like the canopy on the mainlines and felt it was much better but with results like this how can i argue, it really doesn't matter if i keep a neat canopy or not. it also doesn't matter if a have shiny walls or not..
it also doesn't matter if the branches alternate or not in flower..
it also doesn't matter if i don't feed my plants much, i neglected to feed these plants so much. with the hydro stuff keeping me busy most times they just got straight water. i fed them tea only twice ever. and bloom nutes maybe twice but i think it was once. i gave them bloom booster one time and then realized it was to late and wanted to start the finisher nutes. they got finisher nutes maybe five or six times, i was kinda on top of it by the very end. but as it turns out, it doesn't really matter... oh and BTW, my straight water has a PPM of 9! no hidden nutes in there...

i will no veg again for sure, what i will change is a quicker flip and a cannonball flip (Bill Murray is in my head now!) and not use a net for support, that thing was a waste of time, i took it back off and non of the branches moved. when i pulled them all out for single photos the funky monkey were the only ones to droop over. the LA's were the second heaviest of the crop and the tallest by far and also the closest to the fan and they were strong as can be. no veg seems to grow them more robust.

i forgot to take photos of my branches when i stripped everything down. the anatomy showed that i was around 50/50 as far as proper spread so common sense would tell me i probably should only be growing half the plants i do, but whats the fun in that. good thing i don't have common sense!! i will grow forward with 16 again!

veg? no veg? mainline? i don't freakin know... sleeping on it didn't help, no dreams to lead the way..
help me Obi Wan, you're my only hope! i don't really have to decide till five blade leaves for no veg and till node five for mainline and do nothing at all for a normal veg and flower.

 

[Zen_seeker]

I’m finishing off a plan to take Feb-Sept off. We’ll see how that works out. But after that I can see taking your results and trying out a no veg.

I chopped JB & PD today so I grabbed my clones from buddy.


Need a little TLC and I just fed them. They start 12/12 today with the light just a little higher than they had it. Back left might be a male HB but the back right is a female.

 

[Stoneyluv]

the next round is in soil and growing... 17 for 18, one of the hippo high didn't make it, could have been my fault i was pulling helmets off along the way and that may have been one of them.



went with 40% stonington 40% seed starter and 20% vermiculite. watered in with great white and green aminos

 

[Bandit420]

ya know tat fan/controller combo has a 15% off coupon right now and is $125 with the combo... you might be getting your controller back soon!!! haha i'm trying my hardest to come up with a way i could possibly use two controllers but i can't.

i really don't even need the fan but i'm so attracted to that smart speed where the controller can automatically up the speed depending on how high the temp is. i still have that awesome 8" windtunnel in my closet but would still be on one speed with my current setup.. idk, i haven't spent anything yet. might just save the money for my all my liability insurances due in october. both handyman and car wash insurances are due on the same month, not sure how i set that up. but it's so nice to know i'm covered up to a million with a zero deductible!!! i even have some of my tools with special coverage.
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man arma makes some really tough gear, they're direct competition with traxxas.

i wish it was just a little longer... i'll have to measure mine with the suspension loaded up and see if might not look to bad. right now i have mine set up with a sloppy spring to give what they call full droop. my wheelbase is close to 300mm squatted out like that.

i was talking to a buddy of mine that we RC together and he happens to be a cement guy and i said about building a track and he said what plywood, f that make it blacktop!! i said its bristol weekend 36 degree banking cement, think you could pour me a scale track with cement? he said fuck yeah i could!!!!

i gotta say man, those pickle juices are the best freakin thing to wash down a burger with!!!!!!!!



ah hell yeah man, yours might be working a little better than mine!!! i had trouble keeping the rh down in the beginning. keeping the temps were even a problem mid way through we had a small heat wave and the cabinet went over 70 a few times.

i think i'm about three or four days behind target, but not terrible. the buds are just starting to snap off of the stem and not stringing off.. not a full stem snap yet but close. maybe tomorrow kind of close.

i smoked some early with a friend and he said it was nice, said it tasted a little cleaner than what i normally have. he said no chlorophyll or funky green taste like that which was good to hear!

i think i need to upgrade my peltier unit to a bigger one and also upgrade my 12vdc power supply. in the very beginning when i had the cooler and dehuey running i could hear the fan dip when one kicked on and off. might be underpowered a bit. when i first ran numbers it was plenty but then i kept adding things and now i need to double it or more!

100% a success but could be refined better... i liked it much better than what i was drying in so it's a win for sure.



prime was awesome back when it was $75 a year. it's a lot more now.

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so according to the moon and all that yesterday and today are the two days best for planting seeds so last night i loaded up the xlVG with 18 seeds!!! the line up is three of each:

cherry pie from capt. redbeard
california orange sherbet also from the captain
Hippo High from Blimburn
Candy Store from Ethos
Amherst Sour Diesel from Humbolt
Sun of a Peach from Anesia

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six cultivars and five breeders... and because of the moon we've named this grow from astrology...

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my plants and i just might share the same birthday!!!

I think the really nice thing about ACI gear is all the control features along with the solid quality. Saving more on it's even better but man we get a lot of bells and whistles in that gear for the low price. They've really nailed and taken over the market like Coca Cola.

I've gotten the car out a few times for test drives so far. Man it is so much fun!!! Tough little sucker too!
I've driven it on slick concrete and plastic floor, same kinda flooring that might be found in garages and warehouses.
The tires are way too slick for that stuff so I'm pretty much drifting on it and the car is insanely loose.
Today I'll try it out on some roughed up concrete that has a ton more grip and there's some banking and hills in the spot too.

Been giving a lot of thought to laying down concrete as well for my home track. Don't really like putting down something impervious though and decking will be too expensive.
I may if needed rent a sod cutter and cut my track path out then line it with landscape edging and weed block. Then fill it in with decomposed granite, fill my barrel with water and roll over it to pack it down, then lay outdoor carpet but also have that smoothed out dirt track option underneath.
The track will also be a totally different challenge depending on direction so also having a dirt track underneath it will be like having 4 tracks in one

Interesting line up on that drop!

in my honest opinion man there was nothing short to the noveg except for time and power bills. in fact, according to my personal meters along with my power company bill that i just received today that this was my cheapest grow in years. even though veg is not at full power the month or more less of growing really made a difference on my wattage totals.

i'm shocked how the yield just found it's way in there. it didn't feel like it as the grow was going but in the end it all caught up. i really like the canopy on the mainlines and felt it was much better but with results like this how can i argue, it really doesn't matter if i keep a neat canopy or not. it also doesn't matter if a have shiny walls or not..
it also doesn't matter if the branches alternate or not in flower..
it also doesn't matter if i don't feed my plants much, i neglected to feed these plants so much. with the hydro stuff keeping me busy most times they just got straight water. i fed them tea only twice ever. and bloom nutes maybe twice but i think it was once. i gave them bloom booster one time and then realized it was to late and wanted to start the finisher nutes. they got finisher nutes maybe five or six times, i was kinda on top of it by the very end. but as it turns out, it doesn't really matter... oh and BTW, my straight water has a PPM of 9! no hidden nutes in there...

i will no veg again for sure, what i will change is a quicker flip and a cannonball flip (Bill Murray is in my head now!) and not use a net for support, that thing was a waste of time, i took it back off and non of the branches moved. when i pulled them all out for single photos the funky monkey were the only ones to droop over. the LA's were the second heaviest of the crop and the tallest by far and also the closest to the fan and they were strong as can be. no veg seems to grow them more robust.

i forgot to take photos of my branches when i stripped everything down. the anatomy showed that i was around 50/50 as far as proper spread so common sense would tell me i probably should only be growing half the plants i do, but whats the fun in that. good thing i don't have common sense!! i will grow forward with 16 again!

veg? no veg? mainline? i don't freakin know... sleeping on it didn't help, no dreams to lead the way..
help me Obi Wan, you're my only hope! i don't really have to decide till five blade leaves for no veg and till node five for mainline and do nothing at all for a normal veg and flower.

Really good write up man and I've found many if not all of those same things to be true.
Sometimes I think it's criminal how much I don't use in nutes. I've seen these plants grow in the shittiest and most void of life heavy, shitty draining clay soil and still do very well. I'll never believe cannabis is a huge feeder unless it's in tree mode outdoors 12' tall and wide.
Indoors, 1/10th recommended strength posted on the bottle has worked great and saved a ton of $$$ for me.

Cannabis is funny man. Really, I believe it's sole intent in life is to reproduce. Like from the get go it's intent is to get pregnant and produce seeds.
It plays right into our hands because we want the flowers. So all we have to do is get it past infancy and let that insatiable need to reproduce take over. Gotta keep her happy and healthy of course but once flipped, they go into something of a panic.
They're gonna do everything they can to be the best they can be and reproduce. If they're small they're gonna try to get as big as possible in a hurry.
Then we trick them by not letting them get pollinated and even more panic sets in. They turn it on late, swell up, then realize pollination is not gonna happen and begin to die.
That is all I believe that matters most. Everything else is just window dressing.
Managing that life cycle starts to fall into categories of logic and common sense. If what we're doing exploits that need to reproduce, she rewards us with bounty!

Now it's that matter of fine tuning the operation. Maybe add a little more veg and pruning. That's pretty much where I'm at.
I also consider mainlining to be a rather broad term with many different options on the table with or without ties, selected nodes and nodes on branching etc. 100 ways to skin that cat.
Then yeah will a net be needed or not. More likely not because they seem to be much stronger in the canopy with short veg time compared to long veg times. Like thicker stalks and not so top heavy so they stay standing.

the next round is in soil and growing... 17 for 18, one of the hippo high didn't make it, could have been my fault i was pulling helmets off along the way and that may have been one of them.

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went with 40% stonington 40% seed starter and 20% vermiculite. watered in with great white and green aminos

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Really nice consistency across all the youngsters! And quick too!

 

[steamroller]

Cannabis is funny man. Really, I believe it's sole intent in life is to reproduce. Like from the get go it's intent is to get pregnant and produce seeds.
It plays right into our hands because we want the flowers. So all we have to do is get it past infancy and let that insatiable need to reproduce take over. Gotta keep her happy and healthy of course but once flipped, they go into something of a panic.
They're gonna do everything they can to be the best they can be and reproduce. If they're small they're gonna try to get as big as possible in a hurry.
Then we trick them by not letting them get pollinated and even more panic sets in. They turn it on late, swell up, then realize pollination is not gonna happen and begin to die.
That is all I believe that matters most. Everything else is just window dressing.
Managing that life cycle starts to fall into categories of logic and common sense. If what we're doing exploits that need to reproduce, she rewards us with bounty!

FTW~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

I think the really nice thing about ACI gear is all the control features along with the solid quality. Saving more on it's even better but man we get a lot of bells and whistles in that gear for the low price. They've really nailed and taken over the market like Coca Cola.

I've noticed this as well man, and they seem to have their hands in all kinds of grow stuff and start to see them become more rounded in their products. you know they gotta be doing something right if they have something i want and don't even need!!!

speaking of coke, i tried the oreo coke.. it's good if like washing down cookies with soda, i prefer milk! haha not one of their best colab flavors..
i like that dr pepper strawberry thats been out.

I've gotten the car out a few times for test drives so far. Man it is so much fun!!! Tough little sucker too!
I've driven it on slick concrete and plastic floor, same kinda flooring that might be found in garages and warehouses.
The tires are way too slick for that stuff so I'm pretty much drifting on it and the car is insanely loose.
Today I'll try it out on some roughed up concrete that has a ton more grip and there's some banking and hills in the spot too.

i bet epoxy floors or even a smooth ground concrete would be tough for traction. even my crawler does donuts on a cement floor... there is always the option of modified wheels and tires, careful that can get pricy!!! i bet i have close to $80 in each wheel and tire on my traxxas. brass parts and lead filled, those things weigh a couple pounds each!!! crawlers have different rules, all about low center of gravity.

i like your carpet idea...

Been giving a lot of thought to laying down concrete as well for my home track. Don't really like putting down something impervious though and decking will be too expensive.
I may if needed rent a sod cutter and cut my track path out then line it with landscape edging and weed block. Then fill it in with decomposed granite, fill my barrel with water and roll over it to pack it down, then lay outdoor carpet but also have that smoothed out dirt track option underneath.
The track will also be a totally different challenge depending on direction so also having a dirt track underneath it will be like having 4 tracks in one

something else to keep in mind man, if you do go through the work of building this in your yard you're probably gonna get into different styles of RC, maybe buggies or stadium trucks and then putting a dirt track or sand underneath would be awesome for a few different styles.

Interesting line up on that drop!

Really nice consistency across all the youngsters! And quick too!

i should have taken pics of the sour D.. the tap roots grew short and fat.. the root was puffier than the stem was and shorter than the stem too... odd birds!! all three of em too..

everything else seems to be par for the coarse, one decided to grow right through the middle of the paper towel, not between the layers but right through the middle in one side and out the other!!! i was gentle enough to slide it back out without damage.
two had slight stress when i watered them in i accidentally buried two and had to readjust and spray them off.

i'm kinda concerned about the sour D and the hippo high, i almost went for it and added the ghost train haze in the mix but decided against it. five crazy plants at one time will be enough!! haha

Really good write up man and I've found many if not all of those same things to be true.
Sometimes I think it's criminal how much I don't use in nutes. I've seen these plants grow in the shittiest and most void of life heavy, shitty draining clay soil and still do very well. I'll never believe cannabis is a huge feeder unless it's in tree mode outdoors 12' tall and wide.
Indoors, 1/10th recommended strength posted on the bottle has worked great and saved a ton of $$$ for me.

and ya know they still didn't start to eat themselves at all, it keeps making me go back to comment you made about the strength of stonington mix. it's designed to be an all in one and have enough to grow all the way through so maybe i'm adding to much. i want to try and maybe just roll with water till ask for something. it's kinda the reason i added the verm and starter mix in, for one i had them both on hand and wanted to use them up as bot bags were opened already and i wanted to weaken the strength at the same time, so two birds, one stoner..

annabis is funny man. Really, I believe it's sole intent in life is to reproduce. Like from the get go it's intent is to get pregnant and produce seeds.
It plays right into our hands because we want the flowers. So all we have to do is get it past infancy and let that insatiable need to reproduce take over. Gotta keep her happy and healthy of course but once flipped, they go into something of a panic.
They're gonna do everything they can to be the best they can be and reproduce. If they're small they're gonna try to get as big as possible in a hurry.
Then we trick them by not letting them get pollinated and even more panic sets in. They turn it on late, swell up, then realize pollination is not gonna happen and begin to die.
That is all I believe that matters most. Everything else is just window dressing.
Managing that life cycle starts to fall into categories of logic and common sense. If what we're doing exploits that need to reproduce, she rewards us with bounty!

when i first started growing i took setup advice from somebody i knew and i turned out there was only two things that i could take from his advice one was the only job i have as a grower is to keep the plant from stressing or being unhappy it knows how to do the rest on it;s own. and the second is that the plants only focus in life is to reproduce itself and allow it's dna to spread.

no veg really does seem to turn on all the flower growing triggers at once even triggers like grow stronger to support buds whee the plant is not even thinking about that in veg.

i wonder if this is why no veg doesn't alternate branches. maybe in the plants mind it's like fuck it, it's to late to worry about about doing that now, it's time to worry about reproduction.

now i can't get this song out of my head...

i used to love grease II when i was young.. never really liked any other musical ever but something about that movie always stuck with me..

Now it's that matter of fine tuning the operation. Maybe add a little more veg and pruning. That's pretty much where I'm at.
I also consider mainlining to be a rather broad term with many different options on the table with or without ties, selected nodes and nodes on branching etc. 100 ways to skin that cat.
Then yeah will a net be needed or not. More likely not because they seem to be much stronger in the canopy with short veg time compared to long veg times. Like thicker stalks and not so top heavy so they stay standing.

i'm all eyes and ears on your pruning for sure!! back when you first starting talking about this i was just finishing my mainlines and had thought about growing mainlines with just four legs.
i did very little pruning on this last round and probably should have done more cleaning the lower growth early on. it was really tough to get the back two rows with net in place.. i jumped the gun way to early on the net, i thought the stretch was over and mistimed it by a mile! next time i'll wait for the net till they're leaning and need it, it's why i spent the time making it slide up and down anyway. so it was great to learn a few things from the noveg run that i can carry on to all styles of growing and honestly really enjoyed both the mainlining and the noveg runs and found things in both of them that makes me want to do them both over a few more times, if not forever. i got so sucked into growing with the SIP and my setup that it kinda took some fun out of it and both noveg and mainline really put that fun factor over the top for me. same with the hydro, added such a fun factor that i ended up learning a bunch from.. can't wait to combine hydro and noveg together, and mainline and hydro!!

pretty much leaning towards those erie seeds you sent me for hydro... it's funny how i look at my seed packs now that i have the two site hydro, it's like even number packs are going to hydro and odd number are going soil!! hahaha it's mostly the reason why i bailed on the gassy creme cake, readbeard fucked it all up and sent me four freebies instead of three. i probably would have never thought of the hippo high if there would have only been three in a pack!! haha

 

[SiamSam]

I've noticed this as well man, and they seem to have their hands in all kinds of grow stuff and start to see them become more rounded in their products. you know they gotta be doing something right if they have something i want and don't even need!!!

speaking of coke, i tried the oreo coke.. it's good if like washing down cookies with soda, i prefer milk! haha not one of their best colab flavors..
i like that dr pepper strawberry thats been out.



i bet epoxy floors or even a smooth ground concrete would be tough for traction. even my crawler does donuts on a cement floor... there is always the option of modified wheels and tires, careful that can get pricy!!! i bet i have close to $80 in each wheel and tire on my traxxas. brass parts and lead filled, those things weigh a couple pounds each!!! crawlers have different rules, all about low center of gravity.

i like your carpet idea...



something else to keep in mind man, if you do go through the work of building this in your yard you're probably gonna get into different styles of RC, maybe buggies or stadium trucks and then putting a dirt track or sand underneath would be awesome for a few different styles.





i should have taken pics of the sour D.. the tap roots grew short and fat.. the root was puffier than the stem was and shorter than the stem too... odd birds!! all three of em too..

everything else seems to be par for the coarse, one decided to grow right through the middle of the paper towel, not between the layers but right through the middle in one side and out the other!!! i was gentle enough to slide it back out without damage.
two had slight stress when i watered them in i accidentally buried two and had to readjust and spray them off.

i'm kinda concerned about the sour D and the hippo high, i almost went for it and added the ghost train haze in the mix but decided against it. five crazy plants at one time will be enough!! haha



and ya know they still didn't start to eat themselves at all, it keeps making me go back to comment you made about the strength of stonington mix. it's designed to be an all in one and have enough to grow all the way through so maybe i'm adding to much. i want to try and maybe just roll with water till ask for something. it's kinda the reason i added the verm and starter mix in, for one i had them both on hand and wanted to use them up as bot bags were opened already and i wanted to weaken the strength at the same time, so two birds, one stoner..



when i first started growing i took setup advice from somebody i knew and i turned out there was only two things that i could take from his advice one was the only job i have as a grower is to keep the plant from stressing or being unhappy it knows how to do the rest on it;s own. and the second is that the plants only focus in life is to reproduce itself and allow it's dna to spread.

no veg really does seem to turn on all the flower growing triggers at once even triggers like grow stronger to support buds whee the plant is not even thinking about that in veg.

i wonder if this is why no veg doesn't alternate branches. maybe in the plants mind it's like fuck it, it's to late to worry about about doing that now, it's time to worry about reproduction.

now i can't get this song out of my head...

i used to love grease II when i was young.. never really liked any other musical ever but something about that movie always stuck with me..



i'm all eyes and ears on your pruning for sure!! back when you first starting talking about this i was just finishing my mainlines and had thought about growing mainlines with just four legs.
i did very little pruning on this last round and probably should have done more cleaning the lower growth early on. it was really tough to get the back two rows with net in place.. i jumped the gun way to early on the net, i thought the stretch was over and mistimed it by a mile! next time i'll wait for the net till they're leaning and need it, it's why i spent the time making it slide up and down anyway. so it was great to learn a few things from the noveg run that i can carry on to all styles of growing and honestly really enjoyed both the mainlining and the noveg runs and found things in both of them that makes me want to do them both over a few more times, if not forever. i got so sucked into growing with the SIP and my setup that it kinda took some fun out of it and both noveg and mainline really put that fun factor over the top for me. same with the hydro, added such a fun factor that i ended up learning a bunch from.. can't wait to combine hydro and noveg together, and mainline and hydro!!

pretty much leaning towards those erie seeds you sent me for hydro... it's funny how i look at my seed packs now that i have the two site hydro, it's like even number packs are going to hydro and odd number are going soil!! hahaha it's mostly the reason why i bailed on the gassy creme cake, readbeard fucked it all up and sent me four freebies instead of three. i probably would have never thought of the hippo high if there would have only been three in a pack!! haha

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Moo daeng pygmy baby hippo making a lot of noise here....may have to head to the zoo and get the BB board the 'hip' (as seen on SNL) info. Stay tuned

 

[Stoneyluv]

Moo daeng pygmy baby hippo making a lot of noise here....may have to head to the zoo and get the BB board the 'hip' (as seen on SNL) info. Stay tuned

we saw it on tv, my woman instantly wanted one! they have a live feed..

 

[GrumpAzz]

They've really nailed and taken over the market like Coca Cola.

Dr. Pepper doing the heavy lifting there.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Dr. Pepper doing the heavy lifting there.

the doc's my fav for sure!! i'm the only one in my family that drinks soda so i don't get it very often but when i do 95% of the time its dr pepper.

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i think it's time to take down the little lonely outdoor plant. this is my prize seed from B2ACG.. kush mintz. i'll be able to compare a little from outdoor to indoor!!

 

[Zen_seeker]

the doc's my fav for sure!! i'm the only one in my family that drinks soda so i don't get it very often but when i do 95% of the time its dr pepper.

Dr Pepper was always a favourite, still is. I don’t drink much pop but my wife and son do. When she get a few Dr Pepper I have to grab them quick as my son likes it now too.

i think it's time to take down the little lonely outdoor plant. this is my prize seed from B2ACG.. kush mintz. i'll be able to compare a little from outdoor to indoor!!

I keep forgetting about mine. Poor thing was stuck out late and with no hardening. It was that or tossing it.

Yours looks great in comparison.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

the doc's my fav for sure!! i'm the only one in my family that drinks soda so i don't get it very often but when i do 95% of the time its dr pepper.

I like Dr. Pepper, too. Strange, though... I thought everybody in West-by-God drank RC Cola.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Dr Pepper was always a favourite, still is. I don’t drink much pop but my wife and son do. When she get a few Dr Pepper I have to grab them quick as my son likes it now too.


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I keep forgetting about mine. Poor thing was stuck out late and with no hardening. It was that or tossing it.

Yours looks great in comparison.

i realized last night that i am still infested with mites! just started that new round too... i should have known better. i've nuked the hydro cabinet and have turned off any exhaust fans. i honestly don't care of those plants make it or not, i just want to kill the bugs without risking or infecting this round, and that's a big IF i didn't already infect the new round. bastards!!!!

I like Dr. Pepper, too. Strange, though... I thought everybody in West-by-God drank RC Cola.

RC cola was my dads fav... grew up drinking that stuff.

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mowed the lawn hopefully for the last time this year. took my time and got everything, i think this was number six on the year. zip tie on my ball joint held up all year too!!! as soon as it cools down i'll bring it in the garage and give it a good end of year service. most likely tear apart the entire steering system just to get to the ball joints. f'n john deere!!! stupid design.. i'm so tempted to weld the nuts to the plate once i have it off of there to make a future repair a whole lot easier!!!!

 

[Stoneyluv]

a week in and everybody's still standing!

so far no issues, gave them all their first watering a couple days ago. had a little great white and gnat juice in there. speaking of, i really think i'm going to order predators for those and maybe even for the mites..

so far so good on the mite issue, i inspected them all close and saw nothing.. BTW, an illuminated magnifying glass is awesome for this kind of inspection!!



also need the heater already, it was 67° without it...



here's the biggest and the smallest so far...



a family shot...

 

[steamroller]

If you no veg these, you be 1 complete grow ahead of me in just two rounds~!

 

[Stoneyluv]

If you no veg these, you be 1 complete grow ahead of me in just two rounds~!

i never really added up all the math like that but yeah ya know in 87-95 days and done is pretty attractive. more time to grow all the different strains!!!

i'm not pushing these plants or driving them hard for no veg but once the five blades hit i can decide then, i wasn't planning on cloning anything so timing can be anything at this point, but man for fun i really wanna mainline but dude no veg is sooooo freakin easy i'd probably get my slacker card revoked if i didn't noveg again!!!! i could easily be persuaded either way at the moment!!!!

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i ddn't cut down the outdoor kush mintz yet, we had like ten days straight of cloudy/rainy weather and now it's finally sunny for the next few days so i let er ride!!! gonna be in the low 40's the next couple nights! but should be dry.

finally got some time to hang my new fairy lights on our trellis today ( i cut the old ones trying to do some yard work (that'll fuckin teach me to take care of the lawn!!))

went with some patriotic ones this time!!



go#5!!!!!

 

[Bandit420]

"These stickers are dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love FAFO"
~ Kyle Larson, probably





Happy race day Buddy

 

[Stoneyluv]

"These stickers are dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love FAFO"
~ Kyle Larson, probably

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Happy race day Buddy

sounds like something larson would say!!!! hahaha

i haven't placed those stickers yet, thinking maybe my four wheeler!!

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put my new fan in already!!!!

old style ↓


new style ↓



and then on the inside i hung up some artwork to try and encourage my plants to grow faster!!! vroom!!! vroom!!!



everything is wired/tested and ready for action!!! so now i have all the fans in both cabinets all on the one controller. the new gen2 oscillator is going in the hydro cab with the limited swing and the gen1 is gonna be used for my upskirt fan because i'll always use full swing for that anyway. the intake fan is an ACI but not cloud series so i'm using the power block to turn it on, but with this new inline it pulls much more air than my old one so maybe the intake isn't even needed. might even end up with an open port all said and done.

 

[Stoneyluv]

i think i have two can't get rights. two of the three sour D appear to be mutants.

 

[stonemason]

i think i have two can't get rights. two of the three sour D appear to be mutants.

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Mabey they will turn out good.i have had a few mutants realy perform well after seedling stage.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Mabey they will turn out good.i have had a few mutants realy perform well after seedling stage.

yea you're right, it's a great reminder for me to still have hope. we'll see what happens!!

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got the last of my vivosun fan swap out with this new gen2 ACI during prime days.. ahhh the smell of new grow toys!!!



also got a new roll of green filament, and my buffalo sauce jug was getting low and prime days always has it on sale.. also got some everything bagel seasoning, i was told it's a game changer when cooking eggs... we will see about this one!!!!



also grabbed a six pack or furnace air filters and i put the new nozzle on and oil filter a few days ago and also vacuumed it out, there wasn't hardly anything in there but i cleaned it anyway. i bought the merv 13 this time.. i've heard mixed reviews about them and wanted to find out for myself. so this will complete my preventive maintenance service for the season. looks like just in time too....


looks like time to close down the pond from the looks of it too... i gotta swap out the thermostat on my truck, it's frozen shut.. i bought one that fails in the open position this time so it can't happen again. it didn't overheat to bad i was close to home so no damage at all just an hour or so of work.

 

[Costanza]

yea you're right, it's a great reminder for me to still have hope. we'll see what happens!!

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got the last of my vivosun fan swap out with this new gen2 ACI during prime days.. ahhh the smell of new grow toys!!!

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also got a new roll of green filament, and my buffalo sauce jug was getting low and prime days always has it on sale.. also got some everything bagel seasoning, i was told it's a game changer when cooking eggs... we will see about this one!!!!

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also grabbed a six pack or furnace air filters and i put the new nozzle on and oil filter a few days ago and also vacuumed it out, there wasn't hardly anything in there but i cleaned it anyway. i bought the merv 13 this time.. i've heard mixed reviews about them and wanted to find out for myself. so this will complete my preventive maintenance service for the season. looks like just in time too....
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looks like time to close down the pond from the looks of it too... i gotta swap out the thermostat on my truck, it's frozen shut.. i bought one that fails in the open position this time so it can't happen again. it didn't overheat to bad i was close to home so no damage at all just an hour or so of work.

I'm gonna give ya the game changer for eggs buddy

Amazon.com

you can get it cheaper at walmart its like 11 bucks there
I use this stuff on everything its the best all purpose seasoning I've ever had.
Its really good on beef and chicken but it works well with just about anything you can eat eggs, veggies, potatoes its the ultimate seasoning

 

[Stoneyluv]

I'm gonna give ya the game changer for eggs buddy

Amazon.com

you can get it cheaper at walmart its like 11 bucks there
I use this stuff on everything its the best all purpose seasoning I've ever had.
Its really good on beef and chicken but it works well with just about anything you can eat eggs, veggies, potatoes its the ultimate seasoning

theres no way my fam would eat that. i would though!!!! all hot things are mine alone.

the bagel season was good but i was misled, not game changing not even great, just good.. i made an omelette with it.. sprinkled it on the pan and left it heat up and roast a few seconds them poured the egg on top. it was a little garlicy for me.



my fresh eggs are so good they really don't need much of anything. they get all their flavor from marinated bugs!!!

 

[Costanza]

theres no way my fam would eat that. i would though!!!! all hot things are mine alone.

the bagel season was good but i was misled, not game changing not even great, just good.. i made an omelette with it.. sprinkled it on the pan and left it heat up and roast a few seconds them poured the egg on top. it was a little garlicy for me.

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my fresh eggs are so good they really don't need much of anything. they get all their flavor from marinated bugs!!!

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its actually not hot at all the jalapeno just gives it a little bit of a peppery flavor but I understand I have a few members of my family that think spicy is some extra black pepper on their food while my idea of spicy is the stuff I get at the indian places that could thin paint

 

[Stoneyluv]

part way into week three... probably gonna top, upcan, and flip this weekend...

 

[Max]

I’m liking those Stoney..what light they under.

 

[Stoneyluv]

I’m liking those Stoney..what light they under.

california light works ss550's (2)

SolarSystem® 550

The SolarSystem 550 commercial indoor LED Grow light system offers programmable spectrum control and low power consumption.

shop.californialightworks.com

 

[Max]

nice.i don’t mind those.i like there programable spectrum .. a big footprint for veg

1100 bucks here .talk about price gouging…

 

[steamroller]

Plants look good man.

 

[GoodShit97]

1100 bucks here .talk about price gouging…

Theyre still 700 here in the US, they're definitely worth the money tho.
Check ebay too

 

[Bandit420]

yea you're right, it's a great reminder for me to still have hope. we'll see what happens!!

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got the last of my vivosun fan swap out with this new gen2 ACI during prime days.. ahhh the smell of new grow toys!!!

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also got a new roll of green filament, and my buffalo sauce jug was getting low and prime days always has it on sale.. also got some everything bagel seasoning, i was told it's a game changer when cooking eggs... we will see about this one!!!!

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also grabbed a six pack or furnace air filters and i put the new nozzle on and oil filter a few days ago and also vacuumed it out, there wasn't hardly anything in there but i cleaned it anyway. i bought the merv 13 this time.. i've heard mixed reviews about them and wanted to find out for myself. so this will complete my preventive maintenance service for the season. looks like just in time too....
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looks like time to close down the pond from the looks of it too... i gotta swap out the thermostat on my truck, it's frozen shut.. i bought one that fails in the open position this time so it can't happen again. it didn't overheat to bad i was close to home so no damage at all just an hour or so of work.

Nice scores from prime day!
I made out with a new coffee maker that does kcups, grounds, and iced coffee and a vacuum cleaner.

You're already in Winter it seems. That's Winter weather around here.
10 day forecast here is looking real good. Looks like Spectramax weather to me



My Boozy order made it in!
IDK...so far what I've tasted just tasted like meat sticks and jerky. Not like a rum ball or something where you can taste real rum in there



BTW do not get Nerds gummy clusters if you know what's good for you. They're evil and addictive.
Hey in other news I met your guy yesterday...Gordan Ramsey!
He's in town shooting a TV show and commercial and will be at our game Saturday night and the F1 race Sunday. He was in our building taking a tour.
He's nothing at all like the raging maniac on TV. Closer to what he's like on Uncharted which I told him was one of my favorite shows and he said he wants to do more but is doing restaurant rehab shows atm.

part way into week three... probably gonna top, upcan, and flip this weekend...

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They're looking great!
What happened to that one plant you got at the festival? I missed it or something but did you get anything good out of her?

 

[Stoneyluv]

nice.i don’t mind those.i like there programable spectrum .. a big footprint for veg

1100 bucks here .talk about price gouging…

those damn tariffs and taxes are BS!

i bought all mine used from ebay. got some pretty good deals that way.

Plants look good man.

thanks Steam!! looks like i'll have 15 to flower, i don't think either one of those sour D will make it.

Theyre still 700 here in the US, they're definitely worth the money tho.
Check ebay too

ebay is how i got all mine. i think the most i paid was $450 and the cheapest was $250

Nice scores from prime day!
I made out with a new coffee maker that does kcups, grounds, and iced coffee and a vacuum cleaner.

You're already in Winter it seems. That's Winter weather around here.
10 day forecast here is looking real good. Looks like Spectramax weather to me

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My Boozy order made it in!
IDK...so far what I've tasted just tasted like meat sticks and jerky. Not like a rum ball or something where you can taste real rum in there

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BTW do not get Nerds gummy clusters if you know what's good for you. They're evil and addictive.
Hey in other news I met your guy yesterday...Gordan Ramsey!
He's in town shooting a TV show and commercial and will be at our game Saturday night and the F1 race Sunday. He was in our building taking a tour.
He's nothing at all like the raging maniac on TV. Closer to what he's like on Uncharted which I told him was one of my favorite shows and he said he wants to do more but is doing restaurant rehab shows atm.



They're looking great!
What happened to that one plant you got at the festival? I missed it or something but did you get anything good out of her?

there were a lot of vacuum cleaners on sale some reason!!!! we almost bought a robot one..

your fall looks like our summer!! i'm excited to see how your new inline does at cooling your Smax!!! stinks not being able to use it in the summer.

pretty cool you saw ramsey. i think if met him i'd ask him to call me a donut!! hahahaha sut up donut now fuck off!! that would be classic!!!!!

his restaurant rehab show is so stupid.. he cherry picks a place that is very obvious on what the problems are then throw a bunch of money at it and his followers fill opening night and everybody thinks its as great as sliced bread... all made for TV.

i think i'm firing directv and going with youtube tv.. it's a big switch but so is the bill. but saturday night i get to watch the texas game in 4K.

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and yes, i am fully aware of nerds clusters... i like the blue better than the red. i'm supposed to watch my sugar man, those nerd clusters are the reason my doctor had to up my sugar meds for a few months!!!! they get so cheap on prime days though right??? like $2 a bag!!! the whole problem with it is i eat the bag in two days!!!!!!!

this is the other one that is so tough for me to resist... so addictive!!

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so the festival plant.. permanent marker.. paid $20 for it, carried it around all day long, gave it love, and that was the plant infested with mites and brought on this whole problem. i bet that plant had eggs on it when i brought it in.. the timing sure works out thats for sure! i was such a fool, i should have looked for eggs!!! i'm not a custom to buying plants from strangers so i learned a tough lesson man!!!

the plant was infested so i put it outside and i took cuttings and they got infested as well so i ditched everything left of it and now i'm just left with the mites.

i went to order predator mites and realized they can only be shipped overnight and it would cost me $160 so i need to research more i think. maybe find a place close to me where the shipping isn't $80.

don't buy plants from strangers!

 

[Bandit420]

those damn tariffs and taxes are BS!

i bought all mine used from ebay. got some pretty good deals that way.



thanks Steam!! looks like i'll have 15 to flower, i don't think either one of those sour D will make it.



ebay is how i got all mine. i think the most i paid was $450 and the cheapest was $250



there were a lot of vacuum cleaners on sale some reason!!!! we almost bought a robot one..

your fall looks like our summer!! i'm excited to see how your new inline does at cooling your Smax!!! stinks not being able to use it in the summer.

pretty cool you saw ramsey. i think if met him i'd ask him to call me a donut!! hahahaha sut up donut now fuck off!! that would be classic!!!!!

his restaurant rehab show is so stupid.. he cherry picks a place that is very obvious on what the problems are then throw a bunch of money at it and his followers fill opening night and everybody thinks its as great as sliced bread... all made for TV.

i think i'm firing directv and going with youtube tv.. it's a big switch but so is the bill. but saturday night i get to watch the texas game in 4K.

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and yes, i am fully aware of nerds clusters... i like the blue better than the red. i'm supposed to watch my sugar man, those nerd clusters are the reason my doctor had to up my sugar meds for a few months!!!! they get so cheap on prime days though right??? like $2 a bag!!! the whole problem with it is i eat the bag in two days!!!!!!!

this is the other one that is so tough for me to resist... so addictive!!

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so the festival plant.. permanent marker.. paid $20 for it, carried it around all day long, gave it love, and that was the plant infested with mites and brought on this whole problem. i bet that plant had eggs on it when i brought it in.. the timing sure works out thats for sure! i was such a fool, i should have looked for eggs!!! i'm not a custom to buying plants from strangers so i learned a tough lesson man!!!

the plant was infested so i put it outside and i took cuttings and they got infested as well so i ditched everything left of it and now i'm just left with the mites.

i went to order predator mites and realized they can only be shipped overnight and it would cost me $160 so i need to research more i think. maybe find a place close to me where the shipping isn't $80.

don't buy plants from strangers!

Well that sucks about that festival plant. Now I remember about the mites. Sucks but at least they weren't russet mites.
Hell yeah man first rule of CLW is never pay retail!!!
Even off their site buying new there's a 30% off coupon hack.
One of my 550s and the Smax came from the factory but yep, other two came off ebay for about $300 each.

It was between youtube and Hulu live for us.
Been a cord cutter for about 4 years and tried a few like Fubo and another I can't remember but YT and Hulu are best of them all.
A few years ago getting off cable or satellite was a little dicey but today streaming blows the doors off those two. I doubt they even stay around other than for commercial use like in hotels and hospitals. But for residential, streaming is the much better deal.
I went with Hulu because it's a Disney+ and ESPN+ package included deal and having ESPN+ lets me see every single college football & baseball game being played. Like even the obscure games like that Albany vs WVU game. I even get to see Army football every week, my second fave college program!
But with YT you can get NFL ticket at a discount and Hulu doesn't have that. I'd say YT for pro sports and Hulu for college. Everything else is the same and just pretty much cable tv via internet and you can add a la carte premium channels rather than have to do packages of channels.
We pay almost $200/month for internet and Hulu stuff but back when it was all AT&T/DTV that combined bill was around $350 and there's way more stuff to stream.
Biggest difference you'll probably notice are the commercials on streaming channels are different. Instead of shit like local car dealerships and what not it's mostly pharma commercials and brands of clothes you've never heard of sold online

 

[Stoneyluv]

Well that sucks about that festival plant. Now I remember about the mites. Sucks but at least they weren't russet mites.
Hell yeah man first rule of CLW is never pay retail!!!
Even off their site buying new there's a 30% off coupon hack.
One of my 550s and the Smax came from the factory but yep, other two came off ebay for about $300 each.

It was between youtube and Hulu live for us.
Been a cord cutter for about 4 years and tried a few like Fubo and another I can't remember but YT and Hulu are best of them all.
A few years ago getting off cable or satellite was a little dicey but today streaming blows the doors off those two. I doubt they even stay around other than for commercial use like in hotels and hospitals. But for residential, streaming is the much better deal.
I went with Hulu because it's a Disney+ and ESPN+ package included deal and having ESPN+ lets me see every single college football & baseball game being played. Like even the obscure games like that Albany vs WVU game. I even get to see Army football every week, my second fave college program!
But with YT you can get NFL ticket at a discount and Hulu doesn't have that. I'd say YT for pro sports and Hulu for college. Everything else is the same and just pretty much cable tv via internet and you can add a la carte premium channels rather than have to do packages of channels.
We pay almost $200/month for internet and Hulu stuff but back when it was all AT&T/DTV that combined bill was around $350 and there's way more stuff to stream.
Biggest difference you'll probably notice are the commercials on streaming channels are different. Instead of shit like local car dealerships and what not it's mostly pharma commercials and brands of clothes you've never heard of sold online

we looked at hulu tv and it came down to channel lineup, like ya say price was about the same.

i pay $66 for internet, it's the only company i can get and it's their fastest package.


directv is $176 right now i only have a couple add on's that come standard with youtubetv anyway. i think that add on is only $5 but it's the only one i pay extra for. because i gave them 176 every month they would comp me the nfl ticket for free. i would never pay for nfl ticket again, if it were $100 i would but not at $400 or whatever it is. when i was big into fantasy football it got used heavy every sunday. since not playing anymore i barely watched the ticket, just raiders games. the other year when it went to youtube i ended up buying nfl+ for $100, i didn't buy it again this year (yet) it's like NFL ticket except not live, you can watch the games ten minutes after they're over. this works for me because i can then skip commercials and stupid plays. when you're a raiders fan the ffw button is your only relief!!!!!! they also have condensed games on in about an hour after it's over, you can watch every play and it cuts out all replays and BS, shows the whole game in about 40 minutes!!!! i really like that feature!!!! downside is nfl+ is not available on my TV only PC and devices.. it okay for me because i have my PC connected to my 60" 4K but all controls are from the PC and not a remote. i sit in my recliner with a wireless mouse instead of a remote!! haha

youtube gives me some rebates in the beginning and i won't pay full price till xmas but once i do, it will be $83 so yeah not quite as good when it comes to GUI and controls as dtv, but for $93 less per month thats a hell of a savings.. plus i get some 4K broadcasts for that price!! i'll be watching Ewers slinging it in UHD on saturday night. not as good as being there but i don't live 30 minutes away!!! haha

but after checking it out some i really think the picture quality is better on the stream. looks almost 3D on my screen. the guide, lists, and navigation are little confusing and different but we'll get used to them. my woman don't care, she just throws me the remote and says you do it! hahaha... but my mom is struggling a little so far though. when we show her and help her she's fine but once she's alone she gets mixed up, it was this way with dtv at first too.. along with fire tablets, phones, and everything else with a screen.. it will just take some patience is all. but she does watch more tv that we do so she's been the priority with it right now. she doesn't like how to set recordings and how you can't record just one show on youtube, you record the entire series or nothing. so On Demand stuff is mixed in with recorded stuff and i need to get all her filters and guides more user friendly. at least it's customizable thats really nice. one awesome feature youtubetv has is a setting to shorten the delay of live events!! of coarse not from the network they'll always delay 30seconds but i can shorten the provider delay to help match up the nascar scanner!!!! man just a few years ago you could sync the two perfect!! it made it so much more enjoyable than what it is now.

the only downside i see is right now when my power goes out, and you know thats a lot, all i need is my generator and i have TV.. no internet because my ISP hub is just a couple power poles away and when i lose power so do they 99% of the time. right now with Dtv i just power up the genny and no internet is needed to get live tv and DVR stuff.

we will see just how this plays out this winter... maybe i can hot spot my cell phone and use that signal to stream IDK. i have off line options but i'm spoiled and like to watch what i want when i want. at least when the power goes out mid show we won't lose anything, youtube saves it all on their servers and hard drives...

another plus is i will save electricity!! i power the dish, the box, the special router that makes the genie wireless, and all the remote boxes for each TV.. almost 200 watts in total!! and Dtv constantly uses my bandwidth on top of it!!!!!

speaking of saving power, i just shut my pond pump off for the winter!! 400W!!!! thats another grow light man!! and at 24 hours a day not even 18/6 or 12/12! just in time for winter heat bills to absorb that savings!!! hahahaha <- i have to laugh or i'll cry!!!

 

[Rootsruler]

Mamba chews are my kryponite.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Mamba chews are my kryponite.

hell yeah, both the tropical and the regular!!!

 

[Rootsruler]

hell yeah, both the tropical and the regular!!!

One of my GF's friends sent us the "bonus" bag. I keep side eyeing it trying to be a good boy!

 

[Bandit420]

we looked at hulu tv and it came down to channel lineup, like ya say price was about the same.

i pay $66 for internet, it's the only company i can get and it's their fastest package.
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directv is $176 right now i only have a couple add on's that come standard with youtubetv anyway. i think that add on is only $5 but it's the only one i pay extra for. because i gave them 176 every month they would comp me the nfl ticket for free. i would never pay for nfl ticket again, if it were $100 i would but not at $400 or whatever it is. when i was big into fantasy football it got used heavy every sunday. since not playing anymore i barely watched the ticket, just raiders games. the other year when it went to youtube i ended up buying nfl+ for $100, i didn't buy it again this year (yet) it's like NFL ticket except not live, you can watch the games ten minutes after they're over. this works for me because i can then skip commercials and stupid plays. when you're a raiders fan the ffw button is your only relief!!!!!! they also have condensed games on in about an hour after it's over, you can watch every play and it cuts out all replays and BS, shows the whole game in about 40 minutes!!!! i really like that feature!!!! downside is nfl+ is not available on my TV only PC and devices.. it okay for me because i have my PC connected to my 60" 4K but all controls are from the PC and not a remote. i sit in my recliner with a wireless mouse instead of a remote!! haha

youtube gives me some rebates in the beginning and i won't pay full price till xmas but once i do, it will be $83 so yeah not quite as good when it comes to GUI and controls as dtv, but for $93 less per month thats a hell of a savings.. plus i get some 4K broadcasts for that price!! i'll be watching Ewers slinging it in UHD on saturday night. not as good as being there but i don't live 30 minutes away!!! haha

but after checking it out some i really think the picture quality is better on the stream. looks almost 3D on my screen. the guide, lists, and navigation are little confusing and different but we'll get used to them. my woman don't care, she just throws me the remote and says you do it! hahaha... but my mom is struggling a little so far though. when we show her and help her she's fine but once she's alone she gets mixed up, it was this way with dtv at first too.. along with fire tablets, phones, and everything else with a screen.. it will just take some patience is all. but she does watch more tv that we do so she's been the priority with it right now. she doesn't like how to set recordings and how you can't record just one show on youtube, you record the entire series or nothing. so On Demand stuff is mixed in with recorded stuff and i need to get all her filters and guides more user friendly. at least it's customizable thats really nice. one awesome feature youtubetv has is a setting to shorten the delay of live events!! of coarse not from the network they'll always delay 30seconds but i can shorten the provider delay to help match up the nascar scanner!!!! man just a few years ago you could sync the two perfect!! it made it so much more enjoyable than what it is now.

the only downside i see is right now when my power goes out, and you know thats a lot, all i need is my generator and i have TV.. no internet because my ISP hub is just a couple power poles away and when i lose power so do they 99% of the time. right now with Dtv i just power up the genny and no internet is needed to get live tv and DVR stuff.

we will see just how this plays out this winter... maybe i can hot spot my cell phone and use that signal to stream IDK. i have off line options but i'm spoiled and like to watch what i want when i want. at least when the power goes out mid show we won't lose anything, youtube saves it all on their servers and hard drives...

another plus is i will save electricity!! i power the dish, the box, the special router that makes the genie wireless, and all the remote boxes for each TV.. almost 200 watts in total!! and Dtv constantly uses my bandwidth on top of it!!!!!

speaking of saving power, i just shut my pond pump off for the winter!! 400W!!!! thats another grow light man!! and at 24 hours a day not even 18/6 or 12/12! just in time for winter heat bills to absorb that savings!!! hahahaha <- i have to laugh or i'll cry!!!

Dude I haven't found a streaming guide yet that's user friendly. It's almost like they're too customizable.
I think your internet speed will be fine. I only have 1g service and we can stream two TV, have devices up and going, two desktop pc all going at the same time with no issues.

You may end up changing some of your equipment. Like smart TV's are nice and all, but devices like Firesticks and Roku make life way better and easier keeping all your apps in one place and ez to get to. And yeah that 4K is nice and on a good TV can look 3D.

Your services may end up being a moving target so what you get today may not be what you'll always have and there's freebies everywhere.
Like we get Netflix for free because we bought our TV from Dell who had a promo deal but we're also limited to netflix on only two devices.
Paramount+ & Showtime are free for us because I subscribe to a college football website that was $5/month which was then bought out by CBS and I was grandfathered in to get paramount+ and Showtime for free but that sub price did go up to $9/month.
Same with Peacock. Got it for free because it came with something else I can't remember what though.

Prime Video will have discounts on premium channels for limited times. Like right now I have Starz and MGM+ for $1/month for 3 months then it goes to regular price and I'll shut them off until the next promo sale. I'll do the same with Apple TV later this Winter, getting it for $1/month for 3 months then cancel and wait for another promo.
The only channels I keep and pay full price for are Max, PBS Documentaries, and History Vault.
It's also super ez to manage your channels and subs on the Prime Video dashboard so that's another reason why I like firestick.
The good thing is unlike DTV, you'll never have to call in to do anything changing up your channels. I remember calling DTV with issues and wanting to cancel. If they could, they'd give me a handy over the phone to keep my business hahaha. Yeah no more of that.

BTW you got a good rec on a soundbar or features to look for in a good one?
Thinking about upgrading my living room sound and looking for a soundbar on black Friday. We just use TV speakers right now.

 

[Stoneyluv]

One of my GF's friends sent us the "bonus" bag. I keep side eyeing it trying to be a good boy!

oh man you got way more will power than i do!!! i had to run out the the store earlier tonight and it took everything i had not to walk down the candy isle!!!!

Dude I haven't found a streaming guide yet that's user friendly. It's almost like they're too customizable.
I think your internet speed will be fine. I only have 1g service and we can stream two TV, have devices up and going, two desktop pc all going at the same time with no issues.

oh im sure my speed will be enough, i only pay for that much because i download torrents often and some of those 4K movies are huge files. and with torrents the more you share and upload back the more credit you get to download stuff. i've been a member of a private site for many years now and have a lot of credit.. i get free invites too so if you or anyone else would like a membership i will hook ya up!!! and it's a private site so no assholes or advertisements and undetectable by any ISP!!! real outlaw kind of stuff!!!

You may end up changing some of your equipment. Like smart TV's are nice and all, but devices like Firesticks and Roku make life way better and easier keeping all your apps in one place and ez to get to. And yeah that 4K is nice and on a good TV can look 3D.

i've tried most of that stuff out in the past and we enjoy just using the apps within the smart tv itself. my tv in the garage is not a smart tv but i have it connected to a laptop because it's really nice to have that much info in the garage when working on stuff. that tv is the 3D one we used to use in the living room. i also have a tablet with hdmi i sometimes connect to it.

Your services may end up being a moving target so what you get today may not be what you'll always have and there's freebies everywhere.
Like we get Netflix for free because we bought our TV from Dell who had a promo deal but we're also limited to netflix on only two devices.
Paramount+ & Showtime are free for us because I subscribe to a college football website that was $5/month which was then bought out by CBS and I was grandfathered in to get paramount+ and Showtime for free but that sub price did go up to $9/month.
Same with Peacock. Got it for free because it came with something else I can't remember what though.

i'm used to this even with directv... one thing that i was kinda lucky with was the last time i bought hbo and cinemax on one of those $3 a month deals after i cancelled it my online streaming still allows me to watch it for free!!!! it's some glitch in their program. it would be awesome if i sill get it after cancelling but i highly doubt it! if directv stream didn't cost so much i'd buy that one hands down. it's like $130 a month after rebates and trial prices though. but they have everything we like and a good guide and controls. i'm not locked into youtube for another week yet so i'm keeping all my options still open!!

BTW you got a good rec on a soundbar or features to look for in a good one?
Thinking about upgrading my living room sound and looking for a soundbar on black Friday. We just use TV speakers right now.

oh man this kind of blows me away... you're a quality kind of guy, you like nice stuff and i can't believe you listen to tv speakers?!?! damn man thats like not dry rubbing or marinating a brisket in any way and just smoking it and serving it plain. almost a crime to your ears bro!!!

so none of our tv's have speaker sound.. we have two soundbars, one in the dining room and one in my moms bedroom. our living room, bedroom, and office all have surround sound receivers. the garage tv is connected to a quality "bar band" sound system.

the two soundbars are both samsung (and so are tv's) just 3.1
our receivers are onkyo and yamaha. the yamaha is in the living room and has dolby atmos with mid and overhead speakers. our bedroom is an onkyo and is 5.1 it;s an a/v style so it's the brains of everything sound related. the office also has an onkyo and that one is 7.1 with a mean 10" velodyne subwoofer. thats where my 60" is connected to my PC along with that sound system. it's 7.1 plus has a separate circuit for a B set of speakers that can have it's own input so i can make the PC come out of those or the 7.1. i have an upgraded sound card on pc for this.

even our outdoor drive in projector has speakers and a subwoofer connected!!!

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you have got to get surround!!!!! bro i can shake beer bottles in my fridge!!!!

if you want a bar for saved space and convenience then i suggest you get one with satellite surround speakers. they're wireless and just need power. same with the subwoofer it's wireless and a subwoofer can be placed in any space of the room, your ears cannot detect the position of low frequency like they can with mid range.. the bar you want to play around with before you officially mount it, i've found that centered above the tv closer to the ceiling than the floor seems to have the best sound. same with the rears.

receivers are way better quality but much more involved as far as size, weight, wires, and speaker mounting.

i mean depending on how expensive and feature heavy you wanna get...
these are all just suggestions and we can shop a little more detailed to you.. what brand TV do you have? do you have a digital optical output? how much $ is to much?

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