Scotty's 1st Grow

[Scotty 420]

As the title says I'm doing my first ever grow. I had a bit of a rough start due to some bad soil, but after getting that squared away things seem to be progressing nicely. Here's what I ended up running:

2- Bananimal (Banana Kush x Animal Cookies) (fem) from Greenpoint https://greenpointseeds.com/bananimal-feminized-seeds/

And the rest are from freebie tester packs someone from the farm sent me.

4- Sour Triangle Market (Sour Diesel x Triangle Market) (reg) not sure the breeder on that one

2- Soap S7 x Lemon Snow Cone (reg) from Seeds of Love which I have started calling Lemon Soap

Growing in a 4x4x7.5 tent, I have a 6" exhaust vented outside, I have 2 Vivosun VS1000's that I'm using currently with a VS2000 just hanging out until more light is needed. Also have a little steam humidifier & a few assorted fans. Everything (except the fans) controlled with the AC Infinity Controller 69.


On 4/13 I planted 2 to start since I'd been having issues & wanted to make sure I had it figured out. After 2 days it was obvious thing were going much better so I popped 6 more, they went into the ground 4/17. Started in starter trays, after 2 weeks there were serious roots coming from the drain holes so I up potted them into 1/4 gallon biodegradable grow bags. The plan is to go straight into 5 gallon pots & the bags just get planted directly so no transplant shock Just did first watering for all of them after transplanting from the starter tray. Everyone seems to be looking healthy to my very untrained eye.

 

[steamroller]

Looking good there~!

 

[moe.red]

I’m in.

 

[Cool_Beans]

Nice setup dude. I've really been liking the ACI controllers. I verify programming is correct each morning as part of my chores and been trouble free so far.

 

[Scotty 420]

Nice setup dude. I've really been liking the ACI controllers. I verify programming is correct each morning as part of my chores and been trouble free so far.

Yeah that was one thing I hadn't planned on getting. I know electrical controls from years of working in HVAC temp/humidity control is my jam. I could control everything with sensors & relays that I have at the shop. But even paying wholesale to do anywhere close to what I can do with this controller would cost me a fortune & be a nightmare of wiring & switches.

I honestly don't even check it very often, and the history graph will tell me if something does stop working. I went with the non WiFi version which was only $69, plus like $10 for the RJ11 connector & $20 for the AC outlet controller (you also need this for the main control unit to work unless you have ACI devices to hook it to) So for like $100 I had complete control of my lights & exhaust fan. I quickly bought another outlet controller for the humidifier. I really feel like I have the environment pretty controlled, I really recommend the Controller 69 it's the shit.

 

[Scotty 420]

A bit late in getting this updated, but been pretty busy, had to leave town over the weekend & got back & the weather turned hot which means overnight my job went from pretty slow to super busy over night. So as I mentioned I had to leave town for a couple days & unfortunately my watering frequency had me questioning if they were going to be ok until I got back. They definitely didn't need water before I left so I hoped they'd be ok & went on. Got back & everyone was definitely pretty thirsty, but no worse for the wear. Still looking pretty good as far as I can tell.


The one interesting thing is one of the plants that got planted in the 2nd wave (which also happens to be one of the femmed ones ) seems to be passing the 1st 2. It's the one on the back left, the two in center are about 5 days older.


One other funny thing that happened due to the temp/humidity getting higher after watering my plants I'm now spiking in RH. I didn't quite understand the programming on the controller 69 so my exhaust wasn't coming on for high humidity. Got it squared away but we were running about 85% for the better part of a day before I got it figured out. However this is only beginning, it's going to get way hotter & more humid. Lung room is already going into upper 50's RH. Looking at possibly adding a duct run into my lung room from the central AC (its a mechanical room that doesn't have one currently) and also may have to get s dehumidifier for the tent soon.

 

[Scotty 420]

Pics above are from Sunday right after I watered. Here's an updated picture from today. The Bananimal is putting out some huge leaves.

 

[MysticEpipedon]

I love the strain name "Bananimal." Hope it kicks.

 

[Scotty 420]

Last night I knew they needed water, but have always heard watering in the morning is best so I decided to do it 1st thing this morning. They were noticably more droopy this morning, so I think we might have given them some drought stress on accident.

However the Bananimal just powered right on through.

 

[Scotty 420]

Went ahead & dropped everyone into final pots Friday night. Did have a bit of a stoner moment mixing my first batch of soil & put in way too much mushroom compost. Of course I realized this as I reread the directions mixing the second batch after the entire first batch was already in pots with plants. So I guess we're doing a side by side to see if amping up the compost makes a difference LOL.

Transplanting with the bags was super easy & didn't seem to bother them at all any more than a normal watering. Also did my fist feed. Which just consisted of molasses & seaweed. But a day later They all seem to have bounced back.

I have noticed one thing with a couple plants. Mainly one but I'm noticing a couple spots on another one. Lower leaves are developing a few brown spots. They're basically all on the 1st 2 nodes, new growth looks pretty good still. Hoping it's just from them not being fed until now.

 

[Scotty 420]

Quick update, not a whole lot noteworthy going on, but did my first light trimming. Just clipped off some of the lower leaves that were yellowing or had a few spots. Everyone seems relatively happy as far as I can tell. Before and after shot.

 

[Scotty 420]

Topped them all last night & clipped any remaining leaves close to the soil. Here's a before (except the bottom right one I topped it before I remembered to take a picture lol) & a couple after pics.


I'm basically 3 weeks into veg (I counted veg as starting when they started putting out 5 bladed leaves) I'm supposed to top dress/water 2 weeks prior to flipping. Thinking I'm going to do that over the weekend & flip in 2 more weeks.

 

[Scotty 420]

Did my fertilizer top dress, applied a compost tea & watered everybody. So I officially have 2 weeks before I flip. Growth seems to really be taking off. I'm thinking I may end up having to top again, I'm a little worried about what they're going to look like in 2 weeks & then going into the stretch.

 

[Neueregel]

As the title says I'm doing my first ever grow. I had a bit of a rough start due to some bad soil, but after getting that squared away things seem to be progressing nicely. Here's what I ended up running:

2- Bananimal (Banana Kush x Animal Cookies) (fem) from Greenpoint https://greenpointseeds.com/bananimal-feminized-seeds/

And the rest are from freebie tester packs someone from the farm sent me.

4- Sour Triangle Market (Sour Diesel x Triangle Market) (reg) not sure the breeder on that one

2- Soap S7 x Lemon Snow Cone (reg) from Seeds of Love which I have started calling Lemon Soap

Growing in a 4x4x7.5 tent, I have a 6" exhaust vented outside, I have 2 Vivosun VS1000's that I'm using currently with a VS2000 just hanging out until more light is needed. Also have a little steam humidifier & a few assorted fans. Everything (except the fans) controlled with the AC Infinity Controller 69.

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On 4/13 I planted 2 to start since I'd been having issues & wanted to make sure I had it figured out. After 2 days it was obvious thing were going much better so I popped 6 more, they went into the ground 4/17. Started in starter trays, after 2 weeks there were serious roots coming from the drain holes so I up potted them into 1/4 gallon biodegradable grow bags. The plan is to go straight into 5 gallon pots & the bags just get planted directly so no transplant shock Just did first watering for all of them after transplanting from the starter tray. Everyone seems to be looking healthy to my very untrained eye.View attachment 1758View attachment 1759View attachment 1760View attachment 1761

looking good so far scotty. so those bags you just put in a 5 gallon bag and all?

 

[Scotty 420]

looking good so far scotty. so those bags you just put in a 5 gallon bag and all?

Yeah it was super easy, just set the whole bags in & bury them. if you look at the overhead picture you can actually still see the edge of the bag on the bottom left plant. No real transplant shock, and again just made the process super easy. Would probably work really well for autos so you wouldn't have to start in a massive pot. They're super cheap, definitely would recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RMY436V?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

 

[Neueregel]

Yeah it was super easy, just set the whole bags in & bury them. if you look at the overhead picture you can actually still see the edge of the bag on the bottom left plant. No real transplant shock, and again just made the process super easy. Would probably work really well for autos so you wouldn't have to start in a massive pot. They're super cheap, definitely would recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RMY436V?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

awesome. I like that idea of using those. thanks for info.

 

[Scotty 420]

Just a quick update, everyone seems healthy & growing well. If anything maybe too well, getting concerned about height with the stretch still coming, but I'm supposed to wait another week to flip. Thinking I'll top one more time & do a little lollipopping/defoliating tonight.

After turning off the heater in my lung room since we were using the AC now, the tent started getting into the low 70's. So I went & bought a small heater for inside the tent & hooked it to the controller 69. I do think I got a couple of the plants that were by the heater too hot as they got a little crispy on the outer edges of a couple leaves. I put a fan right in front of the heater to spread the heat out & it seems to have solved the issue

 

[MDK]

Looks good, you got a lot of height in there I think your looking good man

 

[Moshmen]

Happy lookin plants ya hit in there bro

 

[Aqua Man]

Just curious as to why you need to wait a week to flip?

 

[Scotty 420]

Just curious as to why you need to wait a week to flip?

I'm using the CannaGranny method, I was supposed to top dress & add compost tea 2 weeks before flipping & again at flip. Did the 1st treatment last weekend.

 

[Aqua Man]

I'm using the CannaGranny method, I was supposed to top dress & add compost tea 2 weeks before flipping & again at flip. Did the 1st treatment last weekend.

Ahhh ok.

 

[Scotty 420]

Got some stuff accomplished today. I decided yesterday that I was going to make an upgrade to my exhaust vent. I have a 6" inline fan but it isn't EC & can't be controlled with my controller outside of just on/off. So there was really no way to have it run constantly & also come on at a higher speed when needed to remove heat/humidity. So I ordered a 6" duct booster fan with a variable speed controller, so I can set it for constant low speed & leave the bigger fan set to the controller to come on over the top of it.

It came today & I got all that hooked up, it's a bit of a rig job for now until I can get some 6" clamps & figure out a way to mount the booster fan, but it's in & working. Also topped everybody & lolipopped.

 

[Scotty 420]

Did a bit of defoliating last night. Not exactly sure what I'm doing so I read Aqua's guide one more time & went for it. Hopefully I did more good than harm LOL.

I'm roughly 4ish days from flipping. Plain watered Tuesday so I should be due to water again over the weekend which should work out well to do the feeding I'm supposed to do with the flip. Super excited to start these things flowering! Here's a couple before & after pics of my defoliation job.


And here's my defoliation assistant

 

[4Plants]

Your thread title makes me chuckle every time I see it because it makes me think of this. Hope your girl's name isn't Fiona.

 

[Scotty 420]

Your thread title makes me chuckle every time I see it because it makes me think of this. Hope your girl's name isn't Fiona.

LOL, and no the wife's name isn't Fiona. And now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head.

 

[steamroller]

Plants are looking good Scotty~!

 

[moe.red]

Looking healthy Scotty!

 

[MDK]

Got a nice spread on your canopy, I think you'll have an excellent harvest coming!

Been looking more into that black domina as well, i think the strain popped up around 95/96, its a 4way indica. There are a few different 4way indicas out there that may be close or even the same just renamed. Piques my interest a bit too, I have intermittent stomach issues that as a man I refuse to address with a doctor visit

 

[moe.red]

Got a nice spread on your canopy, I think you'll have an excellent harvest coming!

Been looking more into that black domina as well, i think the strain popped up around 95/96, its a 4way indica. There are a few different 4way indicas out there that may be close or even the same just renamed. Piques my interest a bit too, I have intermittent stomach issues that as a man I refuse to address with a doctor visit

That one is on my future grow list too.

 

[Scotty 420]

Got a nice spread on your canopy, I think you'll have an excellent harvest coming!

Been looking more into that black domina as well, i think the strain popped up around 95/96, its a 4way indica. There are a few different 4way indicas out there that may be close or even the same just renamed. Piques my interest a bit too, I have intermittent stomach issues that as a man I refuse to address with a doctor visit

That one is on my future grow list too.

Yeah I found it at North Atlantic Seed Co. definitely going to run it next go round. The wife & I both have stomach issues so totally worth a try.

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[Scotty 420]

So today's the day I'm flipping to flower!! I just have a couple questions I thought I'd throw out there regarding how exactly to handle lighting. It's my understanding that I want to up the light intensity when I flip. Should I just turn up the dimmer switch & keep the lights at about the same height they've been (18") or should I raise the light a bit? Also do I just crank it up all at once or should I build up over a few days? Was planning or going from 60% to 90% seem reasonable? Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[Aqua Man]

So today's the day I'm flipping to flower!! I just have a couple questions I thought I'd throw out there regarding how exactly to handle lighting. It's my understanding that I want to up the light intensity when I flip. Should I just turn up the dimmer switch & keep the lights at about the same height they've been (18") or should I raise the light a bit? Also do I just crank it up all at once or should I build up over a few days? Was planning or going from 60% to 90% seem reasonable? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Its hard to go by % on a dimmer. If going from 18/6 to 12/12 you want to increase intensity by 1/3 to compensate for the lower duration of light. I suggest doing that over a week or slightly more.

You dont need to be exact on numbers as they are only a guideline and you want to go by the plants but a guideline helps. Also helps to understand how DLI (daily light integral) works so a fast google search should help make that quick

If you can download this free app and give me the make and model of lights i can help give you some guidelines to get close then you just make small adjustments based on plant response to get dialed in.

Lux Meter (Light Meter) - Apps on Google Play

Professional light intensity (lux) meter for your android device.

play.google.com

 

[MDK]

If you aren't to 100% already I'd just slowly bring it up to that over a week or so period. Just a little each day and monitor their reaction. You got such a smooth grow going I'd just make that transition smooth as well. I messed around alot with upping my intensity and backing it back down...in hind sight should have taken it more easy, slow and steady wins the race here in my opinion.

 

[Rootsruler]

Its hard to go by % on a dimmer. If going from 18/6 to 12/12 you want to increase intensity by 1/3 to compensate for the lower duration of light. I suggest doing that over a week or slightly more.

You dont need to be exact on numbers as they are only a guideline and you want to go by the plants but a guideline helps. Also helps to understand how DLI (daily light integral) works so a fast google search should help make that quick

If you can download this free app and give me the make and model of lights i can help give you some guidelines to get close then you just make small adjustments based on plant response to get dialed in.

Lux Meter (Light Meter) - Apps on Google Play

Professional light intensity (lux) meter for your android device.

play.google.com

I agree. It's much easier to figure out how high your light needs to be and at what intensity when you use DLI. I used this chart and the girls seemed to like it.

 

[Scotty 420]

Its hard to go by % on a dimmer. If going from 18/6 to 12/12 you want to increase intensity by 1/3 to compensate for the lower duration of light. I suggest doing that over a week or slightly more.

You dont need to be exact on numbers as they are only a guideline and you want to go by the plants but a guideline helps. Also helps to understand how DLI (daily light integral) works so a fast google search should help make that quick

If you can download this free app and give me the make and model of lights i can help give you some guidelines to get close then you just make small adjustments based on plant response to get dialed in.

Lux Meter (Light Meter) - Apps on Google Play

Professional light intensity (lux) meter for your android device.

play.google.com

OK I have a couple different lux apps. The one I've found seems to be dead on to the manufacturers ppfd map is called "ppfd". It allows ppfd mapping. So I checked lux & the readings are going from 20-25k at 18" at 60%. Here's a par map I roughly made.

Lights are 2 vivosun VS1000's and 1 VS2000

 

[Aqua Man]

OK I have a couple different lux apps. The one I've found seems to be dead on to the manufacturers ppfd map is called "ppfd". It allows ppfd mapping. So I checked lux & the readings are going from 20-25k at 18" at 60%. Here's a par map I roughly made.
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Lights are 2 vivosun VS1000's and 1 VS2000

600-900 is a good place to flower… im gonna say start watching once over 750-800 for light stress but id say you can likely bunp to 700ppfd pretty safely for now at flip and then let then grow into it depending on the stretch you may need to raise it.

The reason i like that other app is it’s usually fairly close but depends on the phone and then i convert it based on a more specific conversion based on the lights specs…

To give you an idea that app will read about 10x less than the actual ppfd of a blurple. I much prefer to do a more accurate conversion than a single calculation they use for all lights. Thats because lux is primarily the measurement of the green spectrum and the conversion is based of the amount of green in the spectrum to get a closer value of ppfd. This changes a lot depenong on the light you use

 

[Scotty 420]

I agree. It's much easier to figure out how high your light needs to be and at what intensity when you use DLI. I used this chart and the girls seemed to like it.

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Per this chart it looks like I'm about where I need to be to start, maybe up by 10% every couple weeks until I hit 50k then start backing off

 

[Scotty 420]

600-900 if a good place to flower… im gonna say start watching once over 750-800 for light stress but id say you can likely bunp to 700ppfd pretty safely for now at flip and then let then grow into it depending on the stretch you may need to raise it

OK I'll go up 10% to 70 (I think that should get me to about 700 in the highest areas) & watch them, thanks!!

 

[Aqua Man]

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