Grump's Dalato Grow 🌱

[MDK]

Smooth move on the roof....fuck it don't need it anyway just setting limitations

 

[GrumpAzz]

Smooth move on the roof....fuck it don't need it anyway just setting limitations

Hey it even helped a bit with humidity

 

[GrumpAzz]

Flipped to 12/12 on 8/24.
Here are the various stages of my 4 plants.

 

[BlueCollarBob]

These ladies are looking extra frosty. Can't wait to see how they finish and see a smoke report. Super impressive with how busy you've been at work and plotting a move.

 

[Max]

Is that light bleaching on last pic Grumps and 3rd last pic revegging

 

[GrumpAzz]

Is that light bleaching on last pic Grumps and 3rd last pic revegging

Bleaching.. absolutely.
ReVeg.. I hope fucking not

1 plant is way ahead of the others and 2 of them seem to be way behind.

Can they reveg under 12/12?

 

[Max]

Bleaching.. absolutely.
ReVeg.. I hope fucking not

1 plant is way ahead of the others and 2 of them seem to be way behind.

Can they reveg under 12/12?

Not that I’ve seen Unless you have a light leak..seems wierd it’s on one blade instead of 7 just starting flower.maybe its just how that strain grows?

 

[GrumpAzz]

Not that I’ve seen Unless you have a light leak..seems wierd it’s on one blade instead of 7 just starting flower.maybe its just how that strain grows?

Yeah there are two of them that have the single blades at the top. I hadn't thought of reveg but I'm pretty sure there's no light leaks. One hermed early but I think I got it taken care of.

 

[Observer]

Fuck I meant at lights off

Lights on creeps up to 86. If I run the AC, the little heater still runs all day trying to keep 82.

I run around 85 lights on and if I can 70 or so lights off and then cooler , towards end

 

[Observer]

Bleaching.. absolutely.
ReVeg.. I hope fucking not

1 plant is way ahead of the others and 2 of them seem to be way behind.

Can they reveg under 12/12?

It can also be caused by excess nitrogen, and or some stressor.

And if you went from 18/6 to 12/12 should be fine. Just double check timer/hours I suppose

 

[GrumpAzz]

It can also be caused by excess nitrogen, and or some stressor.

And if you went from 18/6 to 12/12 should be fine. Just double check timer/hours I suppose

The lights are set to 12/12 for sure.

I don't really have a way to lower the nitrogen. I've been running the recommended bloom ratios from Lotus.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I disagree with the N tox. The darkest plant is the one that's doing the best and is furthest along. The other three are a lot lighter as they've kept shooting out new growth, some being single blades. They're way behind in bud production compared to the one.

Can single blades be caused by too much light? There's absolutely some bleached buds coming in.

 

[GrumpAzz]

 

[steamroller]

Can single blades be caused by too much light? There's absolutely some bleached buds coming in.

In some cases blade numbers can be genetic.
I would look for reports on the strains to confirm or omit.

 

[Stoneyluv]

i was looking back at photos of my last crop and some went to single blades near the tops, some gps and some not.. i thought i remembered a lot of plants throwing singles near the top. but not three then single, thats whats throwing me off. my first response is i heard that can happen when you tear the roof off your tent

full steam ahead till theres a problem, and i see no problems!!!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

full steam ahead till theres a problem, and i see no problems!!!!

We're almost to 5 weeks and the one looks like it'll finish 3+ weeks sooner than the others.

We close on our house on the 18th but I'll be leaving the plant's behind to finish. I don't know if I can dry one while finishing the others and the new house is 20 minutes away. That means I'll be visiting them before and after work only. They may all get the chop at the same time regardless. I almost don't care about the slowpokes. I'm more focused on the move and the next grow.

 

[Stoneyluv]

We're almost to 5 weeks and the one looks like it'll finish 3+ weeks sooner than the others.

We close on our house on the 18th but I'll be leaving the plant's behind to finish. I don't know if I can dry one while finishing the others and the new house is 20 minutes away. That means I'll be visiting them before and after work only. They may all get the chop at the same time regardless. I almost don't care about the slowpokes. I'm more focused on the move and the next grow.

nice!!!!! so happy for ya man!!! just wait till that first chill night when it's all quiet and you step outside and crack open a can and you can hear it echo for a mile!!!! thats when ya know you're home baby!!!!!

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ya know i was just looking, i have three bladers all over the place man!!



shows how much i pay attention!!

 

[GrumpAzz]

nice!!!!! so happy for ya man!!! just wait till that first chill night when it's all quiet and you step outside and crack open a can and you can hear it echo for a mile!!!! thats when ya know you're home baby!!!!!

Thanks bro. I'm pumped. I've been wanting a country home my whole life.

I'm ready for the quiet nights with little to no light pollution. Smoking doobies on my front porch. Shooting guns in the backyard. It's gonna be beautiful.

 

[Stoneyluv]

Thanks bro. I'm pumped. I've been wanting a country home my whole life.

I'm ready for the quiet nights with little to no light pollution. Smoking doobies on my front porch. Shooting guns in the backyard. It's gonna be beautiful.

there ain't nuthin like being a porch honky!!!!!

 

[Observer]

Man I hope so. The one that's furthest along is really stacking.
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Actually the opposite
This little AC Infinity heater just can't keep up, surprisingly. Gonna have to go back to the Vornado for the next run. I'm trying to keep 82 and that heater runs nonstop when the lights are out.

@GrumpAzz there is N tox showing here

 

[GrumpAzz]

@GrumpAzz there is N tox showing here

What are you seeing? I'm no expert.

And as I stated above.. I don't really have a way to adjust the levels of nitrogen without skewing the recommended ratios.

Lotus nutes. What's the fix? Less calmag? There is no GROW in the solution.


This is what's in the mix

The CalMag is only 75-100 of the 1200ppm.

I'll get a better picture of that plant with just the whites on when I get home from work.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Starting the 6th week today. This first one is the only one that's really produced. Half-assed reveg like @Max said, or nearly a 5 week period of stretch. I swear the tallest gets taller every day. It's now taller than the tent by 5 or so inches and is nearly touching the light again...

Here's a couple shots of the one that's doing fine, starting to thicken up.


Here's the other three. Just gonna start referring to them as "the losers"



That's the freak of the group ⤴
You can see how freakishly tall she got here ⬇


Couldn't get this shot without the top down on the convertible


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We're halfway there or so and I'm excited to see how well this one plant will stack up. She's already chonky. Come harvest, if the juice appears to be worth the squeeze, I'll strip the other three and just press them for some rosin or bake enough brownies to tranquilize and tyrannosaurus.

So that got me thinking.. they're puny. Admit it. They look retarded. Would it be wise to get them the hell out of the way and give the golden child all the whole 800 watts? Hammer down?

 

[willie]

In some cases blade numbers can be genetic.
I would look for reports on the strains to confirm or omit.

Fwiw my vote is for genetics for the single blades. Taking a stroll around the grow last night I see some similar leaves on my Sour D and MelvinZ. Singles coming out of the colas but just below the leaves are normal.

 

[steamroller]

So that got me thinking.. they're puny. Admit it. They look retarded. Would it be wise to get them the hell out of the way and give the golden child all the whole 800 watts? Hammer down?

I would not lose the three but I would strongly consider monster cropping the beast or getting some LST going on.

 

[willie]

DI is Dante's Inferno.

No sight of any more from a quick glance through the window, today. It's all the time I had.

These plants are TALL. I was NOT expecting this kind of stretch, that's for sure. Even the hermied runt is as tall as the window. The other three stand nearly as tall as me. Probably five foot plants. That's pretty insane considering I flipped them at a foot tall or so.

I just came across a couple of the Dante S1's. Thanks for the info on height.

 

[Observer]

What are you seeing? I'm no expert.

And as I stated above.. I don't really have a way to adjust the levels of nitrogen without skewing the recommended ratios.

Lotus nutes. What's the fix? Less calmag? There is no GROW in the solution.
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This is what's in the mix
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The CalMag is only 75-100 of the 1200ppm.

I'll get a better picture of that plant with just the whites on when I get home from work.

See the leaf that's curled down on the left side? And the leaf in the middle on the bud those are starting to show N-Tox

 

[Observer]

Starting the 6th week today. This first one is the only one that's really produced. Half-assed reveg like @Max said, or nearly a 5 week period of stretch. I swear the tallest gets taller every day. It's now taller than the tent by 5 or so inches and is nearly touching the light again...

Here's a couple shots of the one that's doing fine, starting to thicken up.
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Here's the other three. Just gonna start referring to them as "the losers"
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That's the freak of the group ⤴
You can see how freakishly tall she got here ⬇
View attachment 74385

Couldn't get this shot without the top down on the convertible
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We're halfway there or so and I'm excited to see how well this one plant will stack up. She's already chonky. Come harvest, if the juice appears to be worth the squeeze, I'll strip the other three and just press them for some rosin or bake enough brownies to tranquilize and tyrannosaurus.

So that got me thinking.. they're puny. Admit it. They look retarded. Would it be wise to get them the hell out of the way and give the golden child all the whole 800 watts? Hammer down?

Some of my plants do this from time to time.

 

[GrumpAzz]

See the leaf that's curled down on the left side? And the leaf in the middle on the bud those are starting to show N-Tox

So just the clawing?

I'm reading that clawing can be caused by a number of things including too much light, which is a very good possibility. This light is a beast and some of the buds are bleaching.

 

[Bandit420]

Starting the 6th week today. This first one is the only one that's really produced. Half-assed reveg like @Max said, or nearly a 5 week period of stretch. I swear the tallest gets taller every day. It's now taller than the tent by 5 or so inches and is nearly touching the light again...

Here's a couple shots of the one that's doing fine, starting to thicken up.
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Here's the other three. Just gonna start referring to them as "the losers"
View attachment 74380
View attachment 74381
View attachment 74382
That's the freak of the group ⤴
You can see how freakishly tall she got here ⬇
View attachment 74385

Couldn't get this shot without the top down on the convertible
View attachment 74384

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We're halfway there or so and I'm excited to see how well this one plant will stack up. She's already chonky. Come harvest, if the juice appears to be worth the squeeze, I'll strip the other three and just press them for some rosin or bake enough brownies to tranquilize and tyrannosaurus.

So that got me thinking.. they're puny. Admit it. They look retarded. Would it be wise to get them the hell out of the way and give the golden child all the whole 800 watts? Hammer down?

If I didn't know the name of what you're growing, I'd bet big $$$ on these being Screaming Cookies, a GPS cut that should've never made it past tester stage let alone be put up for sale.
I agree with Willie in it being genetics. I've had these grow in my room before as well and have done such extreme things like cutting away entire branch tops to tying and bending down since the branches are more like vines than true branching.
But yeah man this is the bullshit I don't get with GPS and why these types of mutants and wonky shit crosses over into so many "different" strains making me wonder if they really are different or is the feminizing so fucking sloppy everything is mixed with everything making every pack of seeds a bag of cats crazy.

 

[Observer]

So just the clawing?

I'm reading that clawing can be caused by a number of things including too much light, which is a very good possibility. This light is a beast and some of the buds are bleaching.

I've not seen clawing from too much light, it's usually drooping or perking to reduce surface area but yea could be a stress response I suppose.

 

[Observer]

What are you seeing? I'm no expert.

And as I stated above.. I don't really have a way to adjust the levels of nitrogen without skewing the recommended ratios.

Lotus nutes. What's the fix? Less calmag? There is no GROW in the solution.
View attachment 74349

This is what's in the mix
View attachment 74350
The CalMag is only 75-100 of the 1200ppm.

I'll get a better picture of that plant with just the whites on when I get home from work.

Well with the calmag and bloom that's 9-10-14

Which to me, is on the higher end of N and lower end of PK for Flowering.


Ah, I wasn't sure if you using the boost yet, which would be, 10-15-44 NPK ratio.

Looking at that chart more now, it calls for bloom till last week which is interesting, I'd use boost or koolbloom then drop ppm, because I wouldn't be giving it anymore nitrogen or very very little.
But I'm also not familiar with the lotus carboflush

Just my thoughts on it so far

 

[TomH]

I’m very interested in how your grow goes.
I just recently invested in a Lotus starter kit.

I’ll be using it for my fall/winter grow in the tent, Plat GSC Auto (week 3) and Skywalker OG (just flipped, fingers crossed - it has the “just flipped look”)

 

[GrumpAzz]

But yeah man this is the bullshit I don't get with GPS and why these types of mutants and wonky shit crosses over into so many "different" strains making me wonder if they really are different or is the feminizing so fucking sloppy everything is mixed with everything making every pack of seeds a bag of cats crazy.

Well I didn't listen to @steamroller... i chopped the two that looked the weakest. There's just no way I was gonna waste my time trimming what seemed like plants full of airy bullshit.

I feel like they never stopped stretching. The tallest grew another six inches and was taller than the light when I took it down. That's another six inches since my last update... 6 WEEKS AFTER 12/12.

I’m very interested in how your grow goes.
I just recently invested in a Lotus starter kit.

Plants really seemed to love 'em. They were a bit smelly when I went to flower/Bloom nutes, but nothing terrible.

I had solubility issues but I'm mixing huge batches. Next run will be with Athena liquid nutes. Time will tell whether or not we go back to Lotus.

 

[Observer]

If I didn't know the name of what you're growing, I'd bet big $$$ on these being Screaming Cookies, a GPS cut that should've never made it past tester stage let alone be put up for sale.
I agree with Willie in it being genetics. I've had these grow in my room before as well and have done such extreme things like cutting away entire branch tops to tying and bending down since the branches are more like vines than true branching.
But yeah man this is the bullshit I don't get with GPS and why these types of mutants and wonky shit crosses over into so many "different" strains making me wonder if they really are different

or is the feminizing so fucking sloppy everything is mixed with everything making every pack of seeds a bag of cats crazy.

Well I didn't listen to @steamroller... i chopped the two that looked the weakest. There's just no way I was gonna waste my time trimming what seemed like plants full of airy bullshit.

I feel like they never stopped stretching. The tallest grew another six inches and was taller than the light when I took it down. That's another six inches since my last update... 6 WEEKS AFTER 12/12.


Plants really seemed to love 'em. They were a bit smelly when I went to flower/Bloom nutes, but nothing terrible.

I had solubility issues but I'm mixing huge batches. Next run will be with Athena liquid nutes. Time will tell whether or not we go back to Lotus.

Did u already buy Athena?

They run a higher e.c, so it seems you use more of their product...

Not a fan of how many "parts" they have

All you really need is 2, and then have fun with a few additives.

Base NPK with Micros
A 0-#-# flower mix

Calcium/nitrate
Epsom salt-magnesium sulfate if u want or need to add more to/along side the base.

Monopotassium silicate


Could also add/use potassium sulfate and kelp, a natural PGR.

 

[GrumpAzz]

Did u already buy Athena?

Nope. They sent me a trial run with gallon jugs. It appears to be enough for 2+ grows if I'm mathing right.

 

[Observer]

Unfortunately

Nope. They sent me a trial run with gallon jugs. It appears to be enough for 2+ grows if I'm mathing right.

Free nutes is free nutes, nice.

 

[Observer]

Unfortunately

Free nutes is free nutes, nice.

Don't know where the "unfortunately" came from

 

[GrumpAzz]

Tent's looking a lot less crowded.. Front left is the bad bitch of the group. She's really starting to beef up. Back right is the one of the losers I decided to give a shot. Weak nugs but they're starting to gain some mass. Not very photogenic.


This girl is looking good. Easily the winner here. The only one giving any hope to the STACK of Dante's cross testers I have.

 

[SSgrower]

Did u already buy Athena?

They run a higher e.c, so it seems you use more of their product...

Not a fan of how many "parts" they have

All you really need is 2, and then have fun with a few additives.

Base NPK with Micros
A 0-#-# flower mix

Calcium/nitrate
Epsom salt-magnesium sulfate if u want or need to add more to/along side the base.

Monopotassium silicate


Could also add/use potassium sulfate and kelp, a natural PGR.

Right on younster, I use a& B canna coco, and add rooted leaf by Agritech, Listen to Nic, on U-tube. Carbon based nutrients. I use extra, cal/mag fuel. and in flower I use resin bloom,which I switch out with FF Big Bloom, bat guano, earth worm castings. I try to make big Cola's! ftw

 

[GoodShit97]

Tent's looking a lot less crowded.. Front left is the bad bitch of the group. She's really starting to beef up. Back right is the one of the losers I decided to give a shot. Weak nugs but they're starting to gain some mass. Not very photogenic.
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This girl is looking good. Easily the winner here. The only one giving any hope to the STACK of Dante's cross testers I have.
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I'm gonna have to run more of the dantes crosses i have. See what happens lol.

 

[SSgrower]

Tent's looking a lot less crowded.. Front left is the bad bitch of the group. She's really starting to beef up. Back right is the one of the losers I decided to give a shot. Weak nugs but they're starting to gain some mass. Not very photogenic.
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This girl is looking good. Easily the winner here. The only one giving any hope to the STACK of Dante's cross testers I have.
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Those inn the back may not look beautiful but, they smoke above their looks???